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This Day in MMA: Brawl(s) at the Hall

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Eight years ago today - July 13, 2002 - the UFC journeyed to the UK for the first time, hosting UFC 38:  Brawl at the Hall in London.  These days the United Kingdom features very prominently in the UFC's international expansion. They have held more than half a dozen events there, featured several British fighters on their flagship Ultimate Fighter reality show, and dedicated one season of that show to promote a USA vs. UK rivalry.  But all of that was still 5+ years in the future when the UFC first descended upon England in July 2002.

The event was notable for at least four wildly different reasons.  First, for being the UFC's first venture into Britain. Second, for being the culmination of Zuffa's first ever television deal, just over a year after purchasing the organization.  Third, for being not only Matt Hughes' second title defense, but a decisive victory over Carlos Newton, whom Matt had controversially defeated to win the belt in the first place; and finally and most notoriously, for being the scene of an infamous post-event streetfight involving among others Tito Ortiz, Pat Miletich, Lee Murray and Chuck Liddell.

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Yahoo picks up the story on the second point:

UFC 38 was the first show promoted with the benefit of strong television.

UFC signed a 13-week deal with Sky Sports in the U.K. for one or two hours per week on Thursday night of prime-time fights from the company’s tape library. It was the company’s first-ever television deal, designed to build to a live appearance on July 13, 2002, headlined by Matt Hughes defending his welterweight title against former champion Carlos Newton.

The experiment was a huge success. Billed as "The Brawl at the Hall," it drew a nearly sold-out crowd of 5,000 fans to London’s Royal Albert Hall. Because the fans had seem the fighters regularly on television, they were viewed as television celebrities, as opposed to simply fighters, three years before this became the case in the U.S.

Dana White gave some insight into the situation and Zuffa's approach to conquering new territory in a 2002 interview with Submission Fighting UK:

Yeah we did [have research that indicated the UFC would be popular in the UK]. We worked here with the companies RDA, Clear Channel and Sky Box Office. We got together and kind of figured out the logistics of this whole thing and we got a great response. They didn’t announce it today, I thought they were going to, but the show (on Sky) is being bumped from one hour to two hours now on Thursday nights. We’ve had that good a response.

Dana gave his now-prophetic "this thing's gonna be global and we are going everywhere" or derivatives thereof a couple times in the interview, showing that even then the Zuffa plans for world domination were well underway.

Matt Hughes, long considered the greatest welterweight fighter of all time (arguably now surpassed by Georges St-Pierre) had won the UFC welterweight championship from Carlos "the Ronin" Newton at UFC 34 - won it dramatically but not without controversy.  Carlos had caught Hughes in a tight triangle when Hughes, displaying his freakish power, stood up, triangle locked on, and carried Newton to the fence.  After a few seconds both men crashed down to the canvas. With Newton being KO'd on impact, Hughes, who was seemingly out from the choke ("His choke had an effect on me...it made me unconscious a little bit...it made me not know exactly where I'm at" - Hughes from the UFC Ultimate 100 Fights televised special) was declared the winner via TKO and new champ.

Hughes defended his title against Hayato Sakurai at UFC 36; and at UFC 38 he got the opportunity to definitively defeat the classy Newton.  Hughes staved off submission attempts from the wily grappler and dished out a country helping of ground and pound, eventually finishing the fight by pounding a defenseless Newton in the crucifix position until referee "Big" John McCarthy stopped the fight.

But among hardcore fans, UFC 38 is perhaps best known not for the event itself but for what occurred afterward. Various sources have cited slightly differing versions of events, but the consensus that emerges, confirmed by Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, and Pat Miletich among others, is that a streetfight broke out outside a club following the UFC 38 event.  It may have started innocently with drunken horseplay, but events rapidly went downhill.  The upshot was that up to a dozen or more men became embroiled in a wild melee;  Chuck Liddell (not yet the light heavyweight champion) was said to have knocked guys out left and right; and Lee Murray apparently dropped Tito Ortiz and proceeded to soccer kick and/or stomp him.  Understandably, this is a series of events which, while now eight years in the past, can do Zuffa and the UFC no good to recap or revisit, and as a result a coherent, consistent version of events has never arisen.

It all went down 8 years ago today - July 13, 2002.

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The brawl after the show would have been a sight to see. That’s a LOT of asswhooping going on, by a lot of guys who know how to whoop ass. As over the top as it may appear, I don’t doubt that Chuck was dropping fools left and right, and Lee Murry/Tito…well, one wishes that someone had got it on tape…because it would be gif’ed into a “STFU Tito” gif, and used every time he gives a bullshit excuse.

I’m really liking these pieces btw, good stuff.

From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 13, 2010 8:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Awesome post

I do love my MMA history. I hope Lee Murray writes a book someday.

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by Brian Hemminger on Jul 13, 2010 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

great stuff

thanks for posting!

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by Nate Wilcox on Jul 13, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

You totally forgot the most beautiful transition into a RNC ever by Genki Sudo.
Easily the Moment of UFC 38.

And Frank Mir getting annihilated by Ian “The Machine” Freeman

by KOQ24 on Jul 13, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I watch that fight regularly.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jul 13, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knowing how much Freeman was going through at that time it was a feel good moment if there ever was one even as a Mir fan. Though everyone who’s on Big John’s jock should rewatch that fight before they go on and on about how great a ref he is because he missed a blatant and illegal kick to the face from Freeman to Mir that basically helped end the fight.

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cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Jul 13, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

This was the first UFC I ever saw, because it was only PPV here in the UK, I was only 16 at the time. I remember my brother and I ordering it because we thought it was fighting to the death lol, we were fascinated with the idea of it. The Freeman fight stands out to me because he was such a big underdog, and although I didn’t really understand what was happening, it was a great example of someone using grit and determination to succeed over technique, that much I understood

"Ten more seconds is all I ever ask. That's the good thing I learned about being KO'd twice. You don't see it coming -it's like death- you don't plan for it so don't wait for it. So many people are afraid of getting Ko'd that their hands stay home, but not me. I got to go out there and shoot the lights out and fall down" Jens Pulver

by StevenGiles on Jul 13, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Great post

Lore has it that Chuck was knocking dudes out with his back against a wall, literally

Yoplait....Fruit on the bottom,hope on top.

by Skoobs on Jul 13, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Good stuff

For what it is worth, Matt Hughes has never confirmed anything, as he was not involved in the post-event melee. He went back to his hotel room after the event rather than getting his drank on. The story in Matt’s book is as told to him by a soused Pat Miletich later that same night.

by Steve4192 on Jul 14, 2010 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Didn't

A super young Frank Mir get KO’ed at this event?

God help me, I have a problem. I'm a Shinya Aoki fan. I don't know what to do about it...
"what the f**k is the internet?"
Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jul 14, 2010 2:09 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s mentioned in a couple of comments above; he got mauled by Ian Freeman.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jul 14, 2010 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah yes Ian's

one time in the sun.

God help me, I have a problem. I'm a Shinya Aoki fan. I don't know what to do about it...
"what the f**k is the internet?"
Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jul 14, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm meeting Chuck on Saturday

I’ll ask him a bit about his memories of that night ;)

by VikingPhotography on Jul 15, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

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