The Week in Quotes: July 4th - 10th
by Mike Fagan on Jul 12, 2010 7:02 PM EDT
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THINGS GET UGLY AND ADRENALINE LEAKS IN THE GAS TANK
"He heard. He responded to my commands." - Referee Josh Rosenthal, explaining why he allowed the UFC 116 main event between Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin to continue during Carwin's ground and pound assault in round one. (MMA Mania)
"Before the fight he comes into the locker room and he says, 'Listen fellas, if things get ugly out there I’m gonna give you three warnings before I stop the fight. I’m gonna be very verbal in this so you gotta show some movement and show you’re still in the fight.'" - UFC heavyweight champ Brock Lesnar, who survived the first round and submitted Shane Carwin by arm triangle in round two to retain his title. (Sports Radio Interviews)
"I basically had an adrenaline dump towards the end of the first and I was unable to recover in between rounds." - Shane Carwin. You think I'm going to blast this? (Heavy.com)
"I think the biggest factor of the adrenaline dump was hearing Rosenthal say, `Brock I am going to stop it,' and then not stopping it." - Carwin. Wait for it...
"He said it at least three different points in the round, and each time I went for the finish and it never came. It sucked the wind and life out of me." - Carwin being Carwin. This is why I don't care for him. If you can't read between the lines, let me elaborate. I don't think Carwin blamed Josh Rosenthal for his adrenaline dump, but he still deflects any responsibility for losing. It wasn't a lack of cardio or not pacing himself while working for the finish or the boneheaded decision not to back off and make Brock stand with him after Lesnar proved he could cover up effectively on the floor. Nope. It was the mysterious "adrenaline dump". Shane Carwin can go 25 hard minutes in a championship fight...if it wasn't for that damn ADRENALINE DUMP. No, Shane, it wasn't your adrenaline that was the problem. You gassed. You didn't pace yourself. You didn't make Brock Lesnar stand back up and deal with your boxing. You lost.
OH GREAT, BOB REILLY'S BACK
"Violence begets violence. To us, we can't imagine putting people in a cage, sometimes literally fighting to the death." - New York Assemblyman Bob Reilly, using words responsibly like every other wholesome politician. (Cage Writer)
"Because a fighter was tragically killed a week ago in South Carolina. To put two men in a cage or two women in a cage and let them fight until one is dead, is not something for a civilized society." - Reilly, invoking the death of Michael Kirkham for his own political gain. Great success!
"What is omitted, by almost everyone, is that this is a brutal sport." - Reilly. I agree. MMA is a brutal sport, and that fact is often overlooked by fans and media. Other brutal sports (and legal in the state of New York): boxing and football.
"In the U.S., we are trying to combat brutality in our schools. We have a huge problem of domestic violence. We have a huge problem with inner city kids with guns and violence." - Reilly, who is really trying to suggest that inner city gangs run around and shoot each other because they just saw Rich Franklin knock out Chuck Liddell. C'mon buddy.
MISUNDERSTANDING IN JAPANESE NEGOTIATIONS? NAHHHHH.
"Towards the end of the negotiations, because of reasons that I am not able to tell you, although the two fighters agreed to fight, it happened that these fighters could not fight." - Dream Executive Producer Keiichi Sasahara, on the failed attempt to put together Alistair Overeem and Ricco Rodriguez at Dream.15. Since Sasahara-san is unable to fill us in, let's let Ricco and Alistair tell their stories! (MMA Fighting)
"Then, they offered me a fight against Andrei Arlovski for the Dream heavyweight title. " - Alistair Overeem (MMA Fighting)
"During my training I found out that Andrei Arlovski was not going to be my opponent, and they changed opponents numerous times. I've heard names like Tim Sylvia and Minowa." - Overeem. Good god, Minowa? Really? I hate you Japanese MMA.
"I then heard rumors that Dream had booked me in a fight against Ricco Rodriguez. I want to make it very clear that I never verbally agreed to fight him and I never signed a contract with Dream to fight him." - Overeem
"It was presented to Overeem a while ago and he accepted the offer." - Ricco Rodriguez. Did you see Overeem sign a contract, Ricco? Because if you're going by what Dream execs told you, I'm afraid you might have been misled. (Sherdog)
"The reality is that they felt that there was too much risk involved in this particular fight." - Rodriguez. I doubt that.
SCORNED LOVER
"I don’t want to knock Strikeforce because that’s not my style even though they did treat me like shit which was unnecessary because I never talked bad about them." - Jake Shields. Couldn't even get through a whole sentence without knocking Strikeforce, eh Jake? (BJPenn.com)
"Even though Strikeforce is a good show, everyone knows it’s the number two show." - Shields
"They don’t seem really interested in building top young fighters in their prime." - Shields, but he doesn't want to knock Strikeforce or anything.
IN SOVIET RUSSIA, COPROMOTION OWNS YOU
"We are ready to fight against anyone, but everyone agrees that the most interesting fight right now is the rematch against Fabricio Werdum." - M-1 President Vadim Finkelstein (Lowkick.com)
"We have one fight left on our contract, so if Strikeforce want to extend it – they should listen to our opinion." - Finkelstein, with an army of track-jacketed Russian youths behind him.
"I’ll repeat that again: the only thing fans want to see is Fedor vs Werdum II." - Finkelstein
"We've restructured. It has nothing to do with Fedor's loss." - M-1 Global Director of Operations Evgeni Kogan, on reports that M-1's office in Holland will be closed and/or downsized, and it just happens to follow Fedor Emelianenko's loss to Fabricio Werdum. (MMA Fighting)
SCOTT COKER SAYS DUMB THINGS
"We’re not the guys that are putting all the circus fights on. But in all fairness, look at Brock Lesnar. He made the crossover. Why not Batista?" - Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker. Why not Batista? Well, he doesn't have a lengthy amateur wrestling background, for one. He's on the wrong side of 40, for another. And no on cares about Dave Bautista. (Sherdog)
"I think Kimbo’s had his run, so to speak. He’s kind of had his time in the MMA business whereas Batista hasn’t and Herschel hasn’t." - Coker, who's credibility is nearing LeBron James levels.
"We already know how Kimbo will do, so, to me, there’s a little curiosity factor [with Batista]." - Coker
WHITE NOISE
"When people start going to jail, people will stop doing it." - UFC President Dana White. Just like murder and rape and stealing and drunk driving and internet gambling and insider trading and drug dealing. Put people in jail, and the behavior stops. (MMA Junkie)
PARTING SHOTS
"He has great genetics, so his recovery is going great." - Eduardo Alonso, Mauricio "Shogun" Rua's manager. It's unfortuate that Rua's genetics aren't so great with the whole knee ligament staying attached thing. (Sherdog)
"In Mir's mind, it's about martial arts versus this big gorilla who really is just a big gorilla." Frank Mir lead trainer Jimmy Gifford, who would be crucified if Brock Lesnar was Barack Lesnar, son of an African immigrant and South Dakotan farmer. (Las Vegas Sun)
"Honestly I didn't think of Brock going for a submission. I never imagined it." - Shane Carwin, swell preparation. (MMA Fighting)
"I already said that he better not fight anymore, but I didn’t say it to him." - Yoshizo Machida, on his son Lyoto Machida. (Sherdog)
"He will take a beating from Anderson, who will beat him like a child, will beat his ass and will shut his mouth." - Antonio Rogerio Nogueira. I recommend searching this site for Chael Sonnen's rebuttal, which was too chock full of goodness to reprint in TWIQ. (Sherdog)
"Those [submissions] were just kind of luck I guess. I'm not very good on the ground. I'm a boxer, pure and simple." - Chris Lytle, going through a bit of an identity crisis. (MMA Junkie)
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Thank you for saying it.
No one cares about Dave Bautista.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
"What is omitted, by almost everyone, is that this is a brutal sport." - Reilly
“Brutal leg kick.” – Joe Rogan
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I dunno man, adrenaline dumps are worse than gassing, cause it slows down your brain functions as well as your movements.
Only Carwin knows if he "gassed" or had an "adrenaline dump".
He tried everything he could to stop the fight . It was a pretty damn good fight if you ask me . More credit needs to be gave to Brock , he took some hard shots , and still came back . Carwin is a smart guy , I think he will learn from this loss , he may even try to drop a few pounds to help with the “adrenaline dump” or " gassing" .
"Adrenaline dumps" don't happen at all...
At least nothing like what Carwin reports “whole body cramp”
I think he must be referring to lactic acidosis, which is an actual condition, and one which most of us have had at one time or another during heavy muscle usage…
Of course, lactic acidosis is caused by too little oxygen to the muscles…
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 12, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Lactic Acidosis killed Pvt. William Santiago in A Few Good Men, it's SERIUS
I hear that Carwin is hosting a telethon for Lactic Acidosis.
Matter of fact….sounds like a good Fanpost to write.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Say what you will about this guy, but he is on the money here.
There is no such thing as an “adrenaline dump”… it is an overused phrase describing something that doesn’t exist. Shane couldn’t handle the surge of adrenaline that he felt due to the fight. That is a learned skill. It’s why you see fighters bouncing around all the time while they are waiting to begin. They are distributing their energy and keeping the heart rate at an even pace. Shane Carwin needs to learn how to handle himself in the fight to make sure this doesn’t happen to him. He got tired. Having all the adrenaline made it to where he could push all the harder but what happened after was not an adrenaline dump. It was him simply getting tired because he overused his muscles and he is so damn big that he just couldn’t get oxygen to them anymore. In short, he gassed. That’s all there is to it.
He needs to come out and say something like, “I messed up and fought stupid. That’s all there is to it.”
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
by Geno Mrosko on Jul 12, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
TWIQ that week:
“I messed up, I punched myself out and fought stupid” Carwin…yeah, but you’re a fucking dick still!
by Jason H. on Jul 12, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
But fighters tend to get upset when you question your cardio. Its like your insinuating that they didn’t train hard enough. So I guess I can understand why he has kind of been dancing around what happened.
I can only imagine what it must feel like to completely dominate someone like Lesnar and then fail to finish. I would like to see Shane come out and say he punched himself out, but I don’t think that its something that we really need to demand to hear.
Ubereem is here to kill the Finkelstein monster!
Clueless
You obviously never been in a real fight or competition. You some times can train hitting something for 10 minutes straight rapid fire and then in a real fight due on an opponent for one minute and all of sudden your tired. Don’t you wonder why this is????
Carwin gas'd! Period!
Carwin should have understood that he didn’t have a clean advantage to knock him out" from the position he had Lesnar in.
When he had his back, he should have went for some form of choke or should have flattened him out so that Lesnar would have no way of defending himself to his punches or the refs discretion.
When he had him on his back, he should have controlled a wrist and opened him up to punches from side control.
The difference between Lesnar’s mount and finish and Carwin’s attempted mount and finish was thta Lesnar sought the best position to finish the fight and was comfortable working his game to get the victory.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jul 12, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
“During my training I found out that Andrei Arlovski was not going to be my opponent, and they changed opponents numerous times. I’ve heard names like Tim Sylvia and Minowa.” – Overeem. Good god, Minowa? Really? I hate you Japanese MMA.
Are you implying that Minowaman would not beat Overeem?
Superhulk includes HW… therefore… SH Champ > HW Champ… therefor… Minowaman > all!
super hluk *
Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down
by Austin Martin on Jul 12, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Besides:
Simple MMAth tells us that Minowa would win and win dominantly:
Minowa > Sokoudjou > Arona > Overeem
AND
Minowa > Sokoudjou > Li’l Nog > Overeem
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“In the U.S., we are trying to combat brutality in our schools. We have a huge problem of domestic violence. We have a huge problem with inner city kids with guns and violence.” – Reilly, who is really trying to suggest that inner city gangs run around and shoot each other because they just saw Rich Franklin knock out Chuck Liddell. C’mon buddy.
My girlfriend gets all worked up and hits me after almost every UFC PPV… FML… :S
Keep your pimp hand strong!
I get more rec's then a Toyota!
by DayGeaux on Jul 12, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sigh...
I showed my girlfriend that crazy ass Eddie Bravo “sorcerer” video. I’m pretty sure I am going to end up regretting it…
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 12, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m in the same boat. Was showing her how to punch on a bag, then offered to let her spar with me, while I just try to not get hit…
She busted the shit out of my nose with her first punch. Didn’t think she was gonna be that happy to hit me. lol
From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 12, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least she didn't punch your bag
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 12, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate to throw my old man under the bus, but I’m pretty sure he said the same shit to my step mom once. Angry fucker he was.
From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 13, 2010 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions
"No, Shane, it wasn't your adrenaline that was the problem. You gassed. You didn't pace yourself. You didn't make Brock Lesnar stand back up and deal with your boxing. You lost."
This is what I was yelling at the TV during the first round.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
He will take a beating from Anderson, who will beat him like a child, will beat his ass and will shut his mouth." – Antonio Rogerio Nogueira.
Please do not leave your kids with this man…
by truck on Jul 12, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 11 recs
What if they are really, REALLY bad kids?
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 12, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You have to understand, Anderson Silva has hurt a lot of people. Couple of those guys were my friends, and I don’t have a lot of friends…and that bothers me a lot.
How could you missed that quote by Sonnen?
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Jul 12, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
*miss
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Jul 12, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Pathetic
Carwin is simply restating what happened from his perspective, and it gets picked apart and used as material to criticize his character as a fighter. He’s not making excuses – he was being interviewed and answered a question he was asked. Don’t put words in people’s mouth, I wouldn’t blame carwin if he didn’t do another interview with BE again – you can take the tabloid sensationalist BS and shove it
by Disco1Stu on Jul 12, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
He never did an interview with Bloody Elbow, and Fagan has always disliked Carwin.
My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
Right. I’ve been on this dude since he played 80’s babyface after UFC 100. I think he’s a phony, and I’m going to use all the material he give me.
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
by Mike Fagan on Jul 12, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Obligatory
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
by pdl on Jul 12, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
He IS a phony
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
And then got choked. Let’s not forget that.
From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 12, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, you hurt my feelings by mentioning how Lesnar cowered up
….except I bet on Lesnar and he won, so I won and in the end, that’s all that matters to me.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never seen an infant get hit by a car, get up and choke it out.
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
Baby Nog did it.
Submission by Rear Axle Choke
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I admit...
“White Lesnar” was funny. haha
by Broke Lesnar on Jul 13, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
The guy goes out and gives his all and you call him a phony.
Exactly how is he a phony? Because he doesn’t act like a dick and yell how he is gonna get on top of his wife?
by Bill Rivers on Jul 12, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No Fighter Bashing!!!
Unless you work for Bloody Elbow and Shane Carwin kicked sand in your vagina.
by Organ-Donor on Jul 12, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
I feel compelled to rec this.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 12, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
unrelated, but....
this sports dead period is killing me. i was counting on MMA to save me through the summer lull, but there’s basically this damn month off of top-level MMA
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
The month started strong, but ends a little slow... August is bananas though!!!
UFC on Versus 2: Jones vs. Matyushenko (Aug 01, 2010)
UFC 117: Silva vs. Sonnen (Aug 07, 2010)
Bellator Fighting Championships 24 (Aug 12, 2010)
Strikeforce Challengers 10 in Phoenix (Aug 13, 2010)
WEC 50: Cruz vs. Benavidez (Aug 18, 2010)
Bellator Fighting Championships 25 (Aug 19, 2010)
Strikeforce: Houston (Aug 21, 2010)
Sengoku Raiden Championship 14 (Aug 22, 2010)
Bellator Fighting Championships 26 (Aug 26, 2010)
UFC 118: Edgar vs. Penn II (Aug 28, 2010)
Depending on when Bellator runs their title fights, August could get even better.
At current there will be 6 title fights:
Silva vs. Sonnen
Cruz vs. Benavidez
Muhammed Lawal vs. Rafael Cavalcante
Tim Kennedy vs. Ronaldo Souza
Jorge Santiago vs. Kazuo Misaki
Edgar vs. Penn II
We had the f'ing World Cup!!!
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 12, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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I get more rec's then a Toyota!
by DayGeaux on Jul 12, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
fuuuuck you...
Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
MMA Editor - SBNation.com
by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 12, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
No thanks.
I’m flattered, but I think you’re confusing me with someone that plays basebbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
I get more rec's then a Toyota!
by DayGeaux on Jul 12, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
What about LSU baseball? Aren’t they really goozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…
If you're not watching Treme, you're a bad person.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 12, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
haha that is true
LSU is good at track too, but you catch me DVR’ing a track meet
I get more rec's then a Toyota!
4 recs in a row
I rarely tweet
I less-rarely write
"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
I don't watch baseball either...
Baseball and soccer both rank somewhere near golf and tennis in my sport watching hierarchy.
NFL
MMA (any)
NHL
NBA
I will also watch lacrosse, pretty much all college sports and poker before I will watch baseball, soccer, golf or tennis.
Good MMA
NFL
Other MMA
Poker
NBA
College FB if we’re playing
That’s it…
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 12, 2010 6:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
same list for me
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Jul 12, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't hate on golf, truck.
It’s underrated. Just got to learn to appreciate the small things.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
I don't have anything against golf.
I do a lot of promotional work at golf tourneys, I just don’t enjoy watching it on TV.
Just got to learn to appreciate the small things.
Is that what you tell your girlfriends?
If you're not watching Treme, you're a bad person.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 12, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I am Canadian and I barely follow...
Some years I suppose it would be ranked slightly above basketball, some years it would be ranked much lower.
I have season tickets at Ivor Wynne even though I live in the UK. I’m hopeless.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
Family has had them for years and years. We always had four. In reality, my brother’s fiancee has taken my seat, but she travels for work and rarely uses it so I still think of it as “mine”. And I still pay for and use it whenever I’m in town. Like last week when I watched them give away the home opener…
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
Your team is likely going to send us to 0-3 this week. We’ll be the best 0-3 team the league has ever seen.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
I was trying to rec this
as I nodded off.
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 12, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit, the All-Star game is this week
I remember when this was a big deal.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't remeber
when baseball was a big deal
by proflex on Jul 12, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was a bigger deal than it is now.
At least the Derby was. Back when I used to play baseball, it was a big deal (circa 1990-1994).
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball season isn't over yet...?
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 12, 2010 6:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Shane needs to just accept the fact he lost and move on. He emptied the tank and Brock was still there ready to fight. I mean if Shane would of finished the first round on top of Brock still raining down GNP i could understand all the uproar but Brock got up with over a minute left in round 1 and had Shane pressed against the cage. Shane didn’t even last a round he lasted 4 minutes.
"I’m the UFC heavyweight champion and I will be until the day I decide I don’t want to be. And that isn’t anytime soon." - Brock Lesnar
Sad to hear Carwin say that.
Carwin should have understood that he didn’t have a clean advantage to knock him out" from the position he had Lesnar in during that 2 minute barrage of punches.
When he had his back, he should have went for some form of choke or should have flattened him out so that Lesnar would have no way of defending himself to his punches or the refs discretion.
When he had him on his back, he should have controlled a wrist and opened him up to punches from side control.
The difference between Lesnar’s mount and finish and Carwin’s attempted mount and finish was thta Lesnar sought the best position to finish the fight and was comfortable working his game to get the victory.
Semper Fi
There's no shame in gassing during the biggest fight of your life.
He destroyed everyone in the the first round, so he’s never had the chance to fight in the second round.
I imagine it’s pretty hard to train as if you’re fighting for the HW belt against Brock Lesnar.
That’s got to be a shock to the body.
Right
If he wants to keep knocking dudes out in the first round, he’s fine the way he is. But when you start facing other elite guys – this game becomes kind of a crap shoot. If he expends that much energy in the first and they survive, he’s in trouble.
I’d like to see him lose quite a bit of weight. I think with training he’d retain most of his power, and his heart and lungs would be able to handle the work much better. Brock’s body was made to carry that kind of weight, and Carwin’s just wasn’t.
by Manzanillos Cup on Jul 12, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s no shame in gassing during the biggest fight of your life.
Im sorry, but there IS shame in gassing during the biggest fight of your life… if its the 1st ROUND!
Carwin’s pre-fight checklist:
1. Insane Power, check!
2. Boxing, check!
3. Wrestling, check!
4. Gas Tank… wont need it, this is gonna be over quick!
It was the biggest fight of his life, come in shape!
A true MMA fan from the great state of Arkansas.
by MMArazorback on Jul 12, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You really think he wasn’t in shape? That is ridiculous.
by Bill Rivers on Jul 13, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
At the very least, not mentally
An “adrenaline dump” is something that can be controlled mentally
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He said he trained for 5 rounds, and lasted barley a fifth of that time… you’re right, it is ridiculous.
Mysterious Adrenaline dump FTL!
A true MMA fan from the great state of Arkansas.
by MMArazorback on Jul 13, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
What a powerful statement released by Kirkham's family...
….thanks for posting that link to the Cofield article, Gareth Davies from The Telegraph did a nice job of trying to educate Mr. Reilly, but sadly he simply wouldn’t listen…..again…
by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Jul 12, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
this was a very irreponsible use of the quote. if u read the whole thing Shields explains it in more detail and names specific ways in which they treated him like shit.
He said he didn’t want to knock them and then he did. It’s funny. I’m sure they did treat him like shit, and from the outside looking in, he looks completely justified saying whatever he wants about them.
But it’s always funny when someone says, “Not to be a racist, but black people really like fried chicken a lot, don’t they?” The qualifier does not excuse the ignorant clause that follows.
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except an ignorant clause did not follow
they did treat him like shit and they are #2.
by fuzzy wuzzy on Jul 12, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I shouldn’t have used ignorant as I was talking specifically about racists.
“I don’t want to talk shit about my ex, but she’s a cheating whore.”
Etc.
Could be true, but that’s not the point. Don’t excuse whatever shit you have to say with some “I don’t want to…” and then do exactly what you said you didn’t want to do.
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I don’t think Carwin blamed Josh Rosenthal for his adrenaline dump, but he still deflects any responsibility for losing.
Guess what. It’s called Confirmation Bias, and it keeps people sane in the face of adversity. It’s a big part of being a champion: Distancing yourself from a failure so you can move on without a diminished view of yourself. Carwin can be a touch pious at times, but I don’t blame him for a single bit of what has come out of his mouth after this loss.
by judonerd on Jul 12, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
It's what champions do?
When did Shane Carwin become a champion?
In all seriousness, my feeling is this. I’ve never expected fighters to be gracious losers. It’s shitty to lose and at that level it’s gotta feel like having your guts ripped out. If you are going to answer questions about your loss, don’t answer with excuses, which is what Shanes doing. He’d have been better off saying nothing.
"I thought I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury."
- Tank Abbot
on his decision loss to Dan Severn in 1995
UFC 111
is when Shane Carwin became a champion.
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-Randall Munroe
I won an interim title too
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever he says after a loss: It doesn’t have to be true or rational, it just has to keep him believing he is the greatest fighter on the face of the earth.
All those Greg Jackson coaches walk around telling Carwin he’s the greatest HW ever, then they walk straight over to friggin Brendan Schaub and say the exact same thing. It’s important to believe it—it’s good visualization.
That’s why I don’t blame Carwin: He should come up with every excuse in the world as to what went wrong, as long as he doesn’t get this idea in his head that Brock is actually the better fighter. That road leads to fear and doubt.
by judonerd on Jul 12, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to gassing.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
That has to be the hardest I have laughed all day...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 12, 2010 6:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There is a fanpost here
Do I want to write it is the question.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
End of thread.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 12, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a good point, and we’ve all heard far greater whining from someone who lost a fight. But the compliment to distancing yourself, is honestly assessing what went wrong, owning up to it as the “object” that defeated you, and committing yourself to correctly your mistakes. So you don’t want to own the script that you just suck, you’re a fucking bum, your opponent is just “really” better than you, etc., but you do have to clearly identify what “external” and controllable factor let you down, and make it your enemy, GSP-style. And chanting “YUS!” doesn’t cut it.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 13, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
This is why I don’t care for him. If you can’t read between the lines, let me elaborate. I don’t think Carwin blamed Josh Rosenthal for his adrenaline dump, but he still deflects any responsibility for losing. It wasn’t a lack of cardio or not pacing himself while working for the finish or the boneheaded decision not to back off and make Brock stand with him after Lesnar proved he could cover up effectively on the floor. Nope. It was the mysterious “adrenaline dump”. Shane Carwin can go 25 hard minutes in a championship fight…if it wasn’t for that damn ADRENALINE DUMP. No, Shane, it wasn’t your adrenaline that was the problem. You gassed. You didn’t pace yourself. You didn’t make Brock Lesnar stand back up and deal with your boxing. You lost.
Pretty much how I saw his comments too.
And Bob Reilly’s just sounding like an idiot.
I was about to quote that. Beautiful.
Hard core MMA fan since UFC 99
by ChiCubs23 on Jul 12, 2010 5:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Carwin can avoid his "getting gassed" problem by doing steroids
but he wouldn’t want to risk killing his internal organs and immune system with acidic synthetic hormones and coming down with an illness like diverticulosis
I second that motion
I get more rec's then a Toyota!
by DayGeaux on Jul 12, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That kinda sounds like the disease Brock had, except it was diverticulitis. I wonder if they are similar?
Fail.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that....but if you're going to make fun of what Lesnar had, at least get the name right (it was sarcasm)
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
oh...i wasn't making fun of him being sick - that would be immoral
i was passive aggressively hinting that he has a long history of hitting the sauce…
side effects
1. 6’4’’ 320lbs, 4.5sec 40 yard run, bench press 700lbs??, huge traps and neck muscles
2. shot internal organs, weird/large shaped head, small testis (you might have actual proof of how big his nuts are)
I wonder how bad ass Carwin would be if he did several cycles – probably wouldn’t have gassed
F off
these roid accusations are played out.
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 12, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Jul 12, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
A picture of him being falsely arrested?
For having vitamins and not steroids? What does that prove? The police saw a big wrestler with a package and thought it was roids. They tested it thoroughly and it was vitamins. They failed. As did you for posting this picture as some sort of proof.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Why do you feel the need to defend Lesnar so actively? I only posted a mugshot. You can’t post mugshots on the interwebz these days?
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Jul 12, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you feel the net to wonder why I do anything? I only posted an explanation. You can’t post explanations on the interwebz these days?
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Your going to complain every time someone posts a mugshot
I’m going to scrap my up-coming Lindsey Lohan fan post.
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 12, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I didn't "complain", I merely stated the facts surrounding the mugshot.
There was an implied correlation between the mugshot and steroids, all I did was debunk that correlation.
If you wanna post Lohan mugshots, go right ahead. Wasn’t she found guilty of her crimes?
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I’m just joking. I know he wasn’t even charged and the picture was misleading. I just wanted to make a Lindsey Lohan joke.
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 12, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I know.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You posted a mugshot of a false arrest for steroids in response to me complaining about the steroid allegations concerning Brock.
I’d say some sort of response pointing out that the mugshot wasn’t what it looked like was certainly needed.
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 12, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I only planted a seed, maybe it will grow one day...
But seriously, it was a troll job.
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Jul 12, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
"Why do you feel the need to defend Lesnar so actively?"
Have you even read his name? This is the closest you’ll ever get to saying it to Lesnar’s face. Black Lesnar = unofficial Lesnar representative.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 12, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I mean if you're going to troll, don't halfass it.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
what can I say?
It was my first troll job, I had an adrenaline dump…
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Jul 13, 2010 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions
He wasn't
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 12, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever it was
it wasn’t steroids. So the allegations and claiming he was caught with them are either totally unfounded or lies.
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 12, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No, you were making fun of Brock taking roids, my point is if you're going to do it, get the name of the disease right.
Brock has also never been 320. He also isn’t 6’4". He’s never run a 4.5 40 or benched 700 lbs. Everyone knows it’s more likely than not Lesnar used, but the same odds are these for Carwin as well as any other UFC fighter. I would be more inclined to say Carwin’s usage is just as high as Lesnar’s.
Your “nuts” joke was funny.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
diverticulitis develops from diverticulosis
It kinda does sound like what brock had…but then again, the guys over at wwf would never touch the sauce
Of course there is exactly ZERO medical evidence tying that to anabolic steroid use...
Besides, anabolics would make him gas more easily, not less easily…
What Carwin needs is EPO or blood doping to artificially increase his ability to not “gas”.
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 12, 2010 7:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What a semantics argument...
So Carwin says he gassed out because he got excited and blew his wad (basically bad technique/lack of experience) instead of lack of training for the fight, and this is bent into him somehow excusing himself? I have no doubt the guy could go 5 rounds if he paced himself, he didn’t in this fight, and it cost him bad. This is pretty much what he said.
It’s amazing to me how hard some people on here will try to bash the guy
by Jason H. on Jul 12, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
word- wrong interpretations by bashers
I think he said "I was exhausted (adrenaline dump) because I punched myself out trying to end the fight when I heard the ref warning the champ (huge gorilla) that he (josh rosenthal) was going to stop the fight "
Not really.
Carwin says he “adrenaline dumped” because he “turned it on” when he heard Josh saying he would “stop the fight” and then “he didn’t”. That clearly reads that without Josh’s words, Carwin wouldn’t have punched himself out. Except that too falls apart under scrutiny.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get it either
Carwin is doing what every athlete does in the face of defeat: explaining away the process that led to how it happened. Self-belief requires a healthy dose of ignorance, and delusion. You may not be the best, but you damn sure better believe you are, otherwise, why fight through extreme adversity? That Carwin isn’t running out, screaming “sorry dudes! I gassed the fuck out…maybe my body can do something about it, maybe it won’t but I’ll be back trying to finish dudes in the 1st around again so I don’t guarantee defeat by having to enter the second round!” is not exactly shocking.
Frankly, this entire issue is thoroughly overblown, but Carwin is sanctimonious so people will jump at the opportunity to call him words like “phony”, like it’s supposed to be clever.
The guy gassed after throwing 100 kill shots in a 4 minute span. How many times has this happened to guys who weigh considerably less? Carwin is nearly 300 pounds, and appears to be made out of adamantium. Did anyone honestly think he was gonna be fresh going into the 2nd? You could argue he gassed harder because his cardio is below average, but after the frenetic action in the 1st, I don’t think we still have a proper gauge. At least not the type of evidence to burn him at the treadmill stake.
by David Castillo on Jul 12, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh oh, someone make a grossly unqualified blanket apology to Carwin on behalf of BE before this one goes any further!
(please don’t actually go and do this)
"Carwin being Carwin. This is why I don't care for him"
I’m guessing you care for Brock even less then? Brock made just as many excuses after his loss to Mir, and at this stage Carwin hasn’t pursued a vendetta against Rosenthal almost to the point of obsession.
Bullshit.
Find quotes. Especially quotes the day after the fight. All I heard was “i made a mistake we worked on in training.” Lesnar’s beef with Mazz is that he made Lesnar tap so much. Lesnar said the standup was bogus but he doesn’t use it as an excuse for his loss.
Unless you have quotes.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Does Mike bash
Any fighter that makes excuses?
These guys are MEN, of course they are going to make excuses for a poor performance. No reason to hate them.
I'm talking specifically to that guy who said Lesnar made excuses.
I don’t know Mike, but I can tell you why I don’t care for Carwin and I’m sure that most that feel the same have the same reasoning. For someone who proclaims himself to be the “Moral Authority of MMA”, he sure does do a lot of things that contradict that.
Tito makes excuses, but he doesn’t proclaim himself anything other than the Huntington Beach Bad Boy. BJ Penn has made excuses but again, he’s not trying to label himself as above it all. When you try and place yourself upon that pedestal, your fall is much harder. Lesnar was a star and his every word was criticized by Carwin and now that Carwin has (attempted to) thrusted himself in to semi-stardom, he too is subjected to that same criticism. How ironic would it be if a fighter wrote a sanctimonious blog about accepting defeat and not making any excuse for your losses and propped themselves up at the expense of Carwin’s name, the same way he did just one year ago.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You hate Carwin because he talked trash about your idol, who are you trying to fool here.
I'm a lover not a fighter
My idol? Carwin talked shit about my father? When was this?
I don’t “hate” Carwin. I dislike hypocrites and people that try and place themselves in some sort of position of judgment. Carwin as a fighter is exciting and I love that. I don’t miss a Carwin fight.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe people’s personalities are a bit more complex than faces and heels? It seems to me to be inconsistent to hate someone because they aren’t a good guy 100% of the time, yet root for the “heel” because they are “supposed” to act like that.
It is other people that have put that title of “Moral Authority” on him, he’s just put forward his opinion. Or do you have a quote where he names himself the oracle of all that is moral in MMA?
by brad23 on Jul 12, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree that personalities are more than just faces and heavies
I don’t “hate” Carwin. The reason I dislike him is not because he’s not a “good guy” 100% of the time. Carwin came out and said that he wanted to show MMA fans that all fighters weren’t like Lesnar and that they don’t talk trash and disrespect their opponents. Well, what does he do for the last year but…talk trash and belittle his opponent. That is the bone of contention.
He proclaimed himself as the one to show the “good” in MMA fighters to fans. No one labeled him that. If he’d just come out and say “I didn’t think what Lesnar did was cool”, he would’ve been one of millions who stated that and some would not have a problem with it . Hell, Lesnar’s own coach said that. It’s when he decided to be the White Knight of the HW division is when people’s stomachs soured.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Carwin = Sokoudjou
Looks great in the first round, looks awful afterwards…
You are basing that on one fight.
How intelligent.
Just saying that's what he reminded me of.
Whenever I bet on Soukoudjou post pride I’d be all stoked after the first round. And then I would be, “What the fuck is this?” in the second.
Whether he gasses again in the future...
He says his cardio is perfect and blames everything on an adrenaline dump, but I saw a man give up in the second round that night. I suppose when I see Soukoudjou give up, I should think, ah, he just had an adrenaline dump. Adrenaline dump or gassing, it’s giving up all the same.
He is 35 and cuts to 265 pounds. If you’ve watched a few heavyweight MMA matches, one would probably expect him to gas, not even factoring in age or his last fight. And in fact the one time he gets past the first round he looks like Rolles Gracie. Unless he lays and prays and completely avoids exerting himself, I think he will gas or get an “Adrenaline dump” the next time he goes into the deeper rounds too.
No, Filthy Tom Lawler = Sokoudjou.
Filthy’s last two fights, he came out guns blazing against C.B. and Aaron Simpson, and looked damn good in the first round before blowing his wad and gassing out for the remainder of the fight.
looked so good against CB in the first round
that he put him to sleep
Tom and his buddy Silver Back
have lost me money recently. Why must I be blinded by WWE style walkouts?! Why?!
I get more rec's then a Toyota!
Maaaan, I'm still so disappointed in Soko
Not only because he gassed so much, but because I never got to see my Predator entrance come to life.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine
A quitter Judoka with zero ground game must frustrate you to no end.
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by Chris Barton on Jul 12, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I took a strange pleasure
from Karo laughing at him. Who do you think is most likely to be the next big Judo guy, Lombard?
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 12, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Karo did right. Sok was throwing all of Judo under the bus, when really, he just comes from the Olympic style, where a lot of guys don’t bother with the ground.
I’m a big fan of Akiyama because he really puts on a Judo clinic, but he needs a better gas tank. Lombard is a friggin bull, although he doesn’t really throw the big flashy moves like Karo does. He has almost become a wrestleboxer (which makes sense because of the Cuba thing). But, wtf, Judo pride is Judo pride.
I’m also excited about Rhadi Ferguson finally fighting, although he’s too old to work his way up to contender status. Rhonda Rousey is a bad ass girl, and she is big enough to toss Cyborg around if she somehow becomes a strong striker.
I love this Rhadi Ferguson highlight. The last throw is completely badass.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32snu_rhadi-ferguson-actually-does-judo-t_sport
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 12, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
No joke about that throw!
thanks for that link!
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 13, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Ohhhhhhhh
Dig the idea of Rousey, I’ll have to look her up. I still have a great fondness for Kaz Nak.
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 13, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjoMMpWUWKA
She’s showing a bad habit of gripping like a judoka, which she might break soon now that she’s doing no-gi, but DAMN LOOK AT THAT HARAI.
LOL @ Barack Lesnar...and there's a poster named Barack Lesnar here
But it would be different if Lesnar was Black due to the history of Blacks and slurs involving simians.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions
My real name is Barry.
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 12, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I offered Bob Reilly and his people the chance to do a non-confrontational interview where I wouldn’t cast him as the villain and give him a chance to speak directly to MMA fans.
…they declined.
I offered again a month later.
…they declined
I offered again a month later.
…they declined.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 12, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions
Offer them a cookie the next time around!
My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
thats the ticket
lol fuckin Bob 0_o
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 12, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
How many fans do you think wrote Bob Reilly and really ripped into him and...
How many fans do you think wrote Bob Reilly and wrote some really stupid hate filled rants that turned out to be long drawn out diatribe’s that paint all MMA fans in a bad light. I’m willing to bet he only read the less intelligent rants and immediatly thought we were all fucking savages. It’s a sad thing to think, but when Yahoo Sports and other sites published his email address (not that it’s a private email or anything) it was probably the worst thing to do, especially with the amount of intelligence over at Yahoo. Almost as bad as the posters at MMAFighting.
Im with you man
People will see things the way they want to see them.
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by frosty31 on Jul 12, 2010 10:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What? Where did the them come from. Glad I didn’t email Riley
Ubereem is here to kill the Finkelstein monster!
by frosty31 on Jul 12, 2010 10:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you were a concerned mother who had a site called “antimmamoms” then maybe he would do the interview, he is more concerned with being on the more popular voice of the decision, but he is so out of touch to realize that public consensus is taking more of a shine to the sport.
seriously ask for an interview under the guise as a mother with an anti mma site and they will be all over you.
What a pussy.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 12, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He’ll learn from this. I would of gassed out punching Lesnar also. He’ll work on some technique and destroy everyone from here out. Just hope he has time to get back to the belt and hold on to it for a while. He’s like 35. I’m sure you all can still find something to rip on him about after he wins the title. Get over it
Ubereem is here to kill the Finkelstein monster!
by frosty31 on Jul 12, 2010 5:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It has to be a mental psyche-out
to hear the ref say that he’s going to stop it three times and then never does. Creates all kinds of doubt in your head.
And like I said above, he’s a guy, guys make excuses when they are bested physically. Happens, no reason to hate.
The ref didn't say that
Josh didn’t say that he was going to stop it OR did he say anything three times. He said it TWICE and the first time he clearly said “Move Brock, move”.
And not all fighters make excuses. Forrest, for all his running from the cage, never made any excuses. Rashad for all his cockiness blamed himself for the Machida loss. Koscheck in all his cocky glory has never made excuses for his losses.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Haters gonna hate! Does anyone else find this amusing.
Ubereem is here to kill the Finkelstein monster!
by frosty31 on Jul 12, 2010 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fagan's bashing of Carwin has become tiresome
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
by Noah'sArk on Jul 12, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
The guy has done nothing to deserve it.
So what is he has a reason for his loss?
i thought the reason for his loss was because he tapped out.
"I’m the UFC heavyweight champion and I will be until the day I decide I don’t want to be. And that isn’t anytime soon." - Brock Lesnar
Not the CARRRRWIN ARRRRRRRRMY
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone is saying that he won
We’re just saying he doesn’t deserve the bashing.
Save it for someone who deserves it, not a genuinely decent human being.
Why couldn't he just come out and say
“Lesnar looked hurt and I thought the fight was close to being stopped so I put my all into finishing him. He survived and came back to win.”
No need to invoke Josh’s name at all. It’s a red herring.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh snap! Rec’d because I caught it. lol
From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 12, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
God, I’m old.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 12, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say that...
Save it for someone who deserves it, not a genuinely decent human being.
There are other fighters who seem like humble guys and good sportsmen who are absolutely awful people. Not inconsiderate or rude, but legitimately bad human beings.
I won’t assume anything bad about Carwin and I don’t mean to imply anything about him… but I also won’t assume he’s a stellar person either unless I absolutely know it.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I satirize everyone. Carwin’s an unfortunate target because he got on my bad side and he continually says things that are easy to make fun of.
People really need to lighten the fuck up. Shane Carwin isn’t losing any sleep because some low rent blogger makes fun of him.
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
by Mike Fagan on Jul 12, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
People taking shit Fagan wrote too seriously and holding a grudge? Impossible!
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 13, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
And has given props to Brock time and time again, along with commending Rosenthal. Yet it’s funny how those quotes are ignored. Heaven forbid he tells people what he experienced during the fight.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
by Noah'sArk on Jul 12, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
All he is saying is that he punched himself out because he thought the ref would stop it.
I don’t see him whining or even saying that Rosenthal should have stopped the fight.
What?
“I’ll repeat that again: the only thing fans want to see is Fedor vs Werdum II.” – Finkelstein
Really, so because you say that it must be true, I have no interest in seeing a rematch, as I’m sure a lot of the fans don’t either.
I realize there
is gonna be lots of interest in the rematch, but there is an equal uninterest (I know, it’s not a word) in the rematch.
No one really wants to see a rematch but Fedorhuggers and Fedor
Fedorhuggers want it so if (when, in their minds) Fedor wins, they can say “It was a fluke, he’s still the best”.
Everyone else knows that while Werdum is a highly skilled fighter, it was sort of the result of Fedor’s ineptness that caused his win. We want to see Overeem/Werdum or even Overeem/Fedor more.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
But I can’t read anything you say about any fighter seriously. Not that you care…but get another handle or something.
I am not a Fedorhugger nor Fedor. I want to see a rematch.
BOOSH
Negro, your name is fucking Farthammer
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Now THAT is a funny fucking retort...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 13, 2010 3:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Black Lesnar has what it takes to work at M-1
No one really wants to see a rematch but Fedorhuggers and Fedor
This is simply Vadim’s logic, based on some kind of imagined purported omniscience, applied toward the reverse argument, and is no less retarded.
Exhibit A: Wasn’t Werdum the first to suggest a rematch?
Exhibit B: Whoever the fuck else, for whatever reason they might have, wants to see a rematch.
What
does Fedor going into the ufc have to do with a rematch?
fagan do you like shane carwin?
i can never tell after reading your week in quotes. you’re so hard to read. maybe you’ll clarify next week if you like him or not
"The reality is that they felt that there was too much risk involved in this particular fight." - Rodriguez
I agree. He could get his face or neck broken.
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 12, 2010 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
Going to be awesome when all these politicians born before computers are dead and we get to elect people who aren’t obtuse, scared and elderly.
Reilly has no problem with boxing, boxers die all the time, in a domestic dispute is it more likely to come to blows, or an interesting jiu jitsu match?
He is just another cobbled old man who lets society dictate his campaign based on what ingratiates the greatest response for him, a true sham with no morality.
Reilly has no problem with boxing, boxers die all the time
To be fair, in the same interview he said that if Boxing was up for legalization currently he wouldn’t be okay with it either.
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
Really he said the exact opposite in this cagepotato interview I read before I posted.
Q: "Is it fair then to say you’re against combat sports in general, whether it’s MMA or boxing or kickboxing, since it all involves the intent to harm one’s opponent? "
A: “Absolutely not. The only sport I’m against is mixed martial arts. I have people come up to me just about on a daily basis, unsolicited, and say, ‘You’re doing the right thing. This stuff is just brutal.’ People turn this on when they’re scanning through the channels, that’s their only exposure to it, and there are people kicking each other in the head. As one of my aides saw recently, one guy punched the other guy, he was knocked out and falling to the ground, and as he fell the other guy kneed him in the head. People see this and they are really offended and disgusted by it. They see the violence in it. They don’t come up to me and talk that way about boxing or football.”
Maybe his opinion changed when he realized how hypocritical it sounded.
http://www.cagepotato.com/exclusive-interview-ny-state-assemblyman-bob-reilly-part-one
link to interview, i guess this is why he wont do one for Brent maybe he doesnt want a record of being a walking contradiction.
Could be
The guy is a politician, after all.
ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.
by Chris Barton on Jul 12, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s from March 13th, 2009 as well, so not a very long time to 180 your stance on a topic.
Especially in the article he is discussing how he has been a boxing fan for a long time but “not as much” as he used to be.
I remember him praising “amateur boxing” a bunch. How the goal isn’t to “hurt” your opponent, but demonstrate superior skill.
Either way, the dude’s a moron.
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
I can't remember what sport it was, maybe someone can refresh my memory, but...
Didn’t a teenage kid die last week somewhere in New York playing a seemingly harmless sport. Again, not sure what sport, Could have been football, or it might have been bull riding. For the life of me I can’t remember. I’m sure there’s someone know what I’m talking about. I guess what I’m trying to say is, in Bob Reilly’s own state, in what should have been a rather safe environment and a sport where one would think if a teenager is allowed to participate, the kid would be protected from such a terrible outcome. If kids are dying while playing whatever sport he particpated in, then where is the outrage from Mr. Reilly?
"Oh it's "This Week in Quotes"!"
Get ready for people to bitch about Fagan fighter bashing.
From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479
NAh
Not bitch about him fighter bashing but bitch about him not having a clue about fighting in general and how mentally you cause your body to crash to anxiety/adrenaline dump.
A true adrenaline dump has nothing to do with "throwing extra punches"
That’s why the excuse is BS. He mixes in two (actually three) excuses into one. He says he had an “adrenaline dump” after hearing “the ref say he was going to stop the fight” because he “punched himself out”. If he REALLY had a pure adrenaline dump, he would’ve been gassed much earlier. He wouldn’t have had the capacity to throw that volume of punches. Trust, when it hits, it’ hits. And the surge would’ve started from the beginning of the fight and exerted itself at the first Lesnar takedown attempt. It doesn’t just start when you go into the offense. That’s why this reasoning is BS. Look up the science behind tachypsychia.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
And prior to that he said he had lactic acidosis.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
this needed to be made. it will be of much use for years to come. take it, as a gift.
Go big red!
by pornflake on Jul 12, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's what I told my first piece of ass when I was done in 5 minutes.
It wasn’t me, it was an adrenaline dump.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 12, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he believe you?
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 12, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Twas a funny retort
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 13, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Stop it...
I keep scaring the fam with random loud LOL…
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 13, 2010 3:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
is that a chael sonnen reference after the Jimmy Gifford quote?
with the crucifiction and all. in my head it is. and i like it.
Go big red!
joe rogan said maybe carwin should drop some weight for his build?
i agree…carwin may be the same weight as lesnar but he is not the same size…brock is huge son…wide….carwin is normal built with all this weight..he should drop some pounds…might help his cardio
Carwin CLEARLY has too much weight on his body
He shouldn’t be weighing in at anymore than 260. It’s like they’re trying to create Crock Lesnar. Brock is 6’3", Carwin is 6’5". Brock is 275, Carwin is 290. Brock wears 4XL, Carwin wears 5XL.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 13, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
About this thread:
Wow. Comments section gone bananas. B a n a n a s.
I'm better than you. Na na na boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.
shit is bananas
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 13, 2010 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions
God damn
Fine time for my fn work shift to get changed. Made me miss all the fun.
I'm better than you. Na na na boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 13, 2010 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I missed a bunch been on the phone all damn night
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 13, 2010 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike, love these posts with the quotes, read them every week… but did you ever think about being a little nicer?
You read TWIQ every week why change now?
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 13, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
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