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Around SB Nation: Yuri Foreman vs. Miguel Cotto - The Biggest Combat Event of the Weekend

There's a bit of a size difference in tonight's bout.  (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

Scott Christ of Bad Left Hook is, to me, without a doubt the best boxing writer in the business when it comes to breaking down a fight.  And as we're in a rare down weekend for MMA let's turn to Scott as he breaks down tonight's WBA Junior Middleweight Title bout between Yuri Foreman and Miguel Cotto:

Foreman stands 5'11" with a 72-inch reach, compared to Cotto's 5'7" and 67-inch reach. They're both 29 years of age, but Foreman has taken far, far less punishment in his career -- no punishment at all, really. Foreman's first step onto the true world stage came last November on the Cotto-Pacquiao undercard, when he took the WBA belt from Daniel Santos, who was old, out of shape, and clearly well past the days when he was a very underrated fighter.

For the most part, Foreman has been able to dominate his limited foes, but he has had some trouble with the likes of Andrey Tsurkan and Anthony Thompson, both of whom lost split decisions to Foreman in 2007. There is a question of whether or not Foreman can handle real pressure from a good fighter, one who can bang. Cotto was no monster puncher at 147, and won't be at 154 either, but the Cotto of old was one of the best pressure fighters in boxing.

Cotto will need to be that guy again. After a two-fight stint with Joe Santiago serving as his lead trainer, Cotto is now working with Hall of Famer Emanuel Steward, who had been in talks to serve as an adviser to Foreman for this bout. On paper, Foreman, who is tall and likes to use his jab, is more Manny's kind of fighter. But Steward loves a reclamation project, too. The work he's done in recent years with Wladimir Klitschko has been arguably the best work of his career, even including Thomas Hearns. He's taken Klitschko from a very powerful but very susceptible heavyweight to a man who isn't indestructible, but has learned to be damn near impenetrable.

There is much more goodness in the breakdown, so go check it out.

Beyond the technical aspects of the fight there is also something special about seeing boxing return to Yankee Stadium (or go there for the first time if you're going to be a stickler about this being the NEW Yankee Stadium).  And a New York crowd for a bout between an Orthodox Jew and a Puerto Rican should be lively to say the least.  The combination of crowd make-up and venue should make for a very unusual viewing experience.  Add in the storm that is possible (the ring will be covered so it shouldn't impact the fight) and you've just got a very interesting visual aspect.

It'd be dishonest for me to attempt to frame this as a can't miss fight for MMA fans who are not passionate about boxing.  When Cotto is on he brings the fight and is an exciting guy to watch, but as Scott put it "If Yuri Foreman wins this fight, it'll probably be clear, widely scored, and dull. If Miguel Cotto wins this fight, it will be because he brings a major storm onto Foreman that Foreman cannot handle."

If you're bored and have HBO I suggest tuning in for a unique event but I can't promise that this will be a great watch.

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God, I hope Manny Steward has lit a fire under Cotto’s ass and has found a way to make him keep his focus. When Cotto didn’t get overwhelmed and actually used his fine boxing abilities against Pac, he had some solid success. He’ll have to be tricky getting through Foreman’s reach.

I think a big advantage for Cotto could be that he won’t be as star-struck as Foreman.

The PR blood coursing through my veins feels like fucking adamantium right now!

Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death

by Anthony Pace on Jun 5, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Cotto’s problem has ever been a lack of focus. He’s only ever lost to an all time great, and a very talented, very rugged fraud.

Outside of that, he’s beaten everyone he wasn’t quite elite, but still talented like Quintana, Clottey, and Mosley (at this point). The guy is still an incredibly crafty boxer with a great pressure game. And so I don’t think Foreman is as good, but the weight difference and reach could definitely play a factor…as could bad judging.

It’s weird to think of Cotto as “past his prime”. The guy is 29, and already people are worried about his health and whether or not he’s lost a step or two. Then again, he never had an easy natch. Even his fights during his rise were absolute wars: Corley, Torres (my favorite Cotto fight personally), Pinto, etc.

by David Castillo on Jun 5, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It hasn’t always been the focus aspect, but I think it might be now.

I discard the Margarito loss, but it’s hard to deny the shots he took in that fight and the mauling he got in the second half of the Pacquiao fight can shake any man’s confidence.

And I agree that Cotto isn’t necessarily past his prime, he just seems to have hit a ceiling and is on the verge of spinning his tires. That’s why I think he took the Foreman fight in the first place

Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death

by Anthony Pace on Jun 5, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tragically

The audio of my interview with Freddie Roach is lost, but he did tell me he thought Foreman would win.

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by Luke Thomas on Jun 5, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Curses

He probably meant w/ Foreman’s height and reach advantage. But Cotto is more of a body puncher. Easier said than done but I’m sure he can work the inside being smaller than Foreman

by Krimson on Jun 5, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for mentioning the fight on Bloody Elbow, Brent. I don’t watch boxing much and wouldn’t have known about it if I didn’t see this. I have HBO so I might check it out.

by H8ff0000 on Jun 5, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I know when we post boxing related stuff some people get miffed, but it’s an interesting event combined with a slow MMA weekend. So if you’re not doing anything and have HBO it’s probably worth tuning in. I don’t really know much about the undercard bout that is also airing but Scott broke that down also and given that it’s two undefeated prospects fighting it’s somewhat interesting.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 5, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

People shouldn't get miffed.

Most MMA fans pay particular attention to BJJ competitions, kickboxing fights, wrestling tourneys, etc… They should also pay some attention to boxing, which, while a rival of sorts at this point, certainly has some influence in MMA.

If they have no interest, simply dont read it, but it is my guess that many of these same people are ones who give boxers no chance in an MMA fight. They may or may not be correct, but at least view the sport to an extent to base your opinions off of. Besides, occasionally you get a Gatti/Ward performance or see a little known Filipino up and comer in his early stages.

by BJJDenver on Jun 5, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Puerto Rican friend of mine from Brooklyn told me yesterday that there is so much tension in BK right now between the Puerto Ricans and Jews. Seems like NYC is really pumped for this fight. Yankee Stadium will be a great atmosphere tonight. To quote the late, great Gorilla Monsoon, “You could cut the electricity with a knife.”

by exzacht on Jun 5, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I live in Brooklyn and work in the Bronx, 9 blocks from Yankee Stadium. Over the last week, I have seen lots of Puerto Rican flags hanging out car windows. Even more than usual.

Puerto Rico will be well represented at the Stadium tonight. I don’t know if the pressure and the crowd will work for Cotto or against him, but it will be fun to watch.

Although— I also heard that there was a bar mitzfah at Yankee stadium during the day today. Did anyone else hear that?

by Gideon Jay on Jun 5, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This event sounds awesome, but a lot of people are unaware (especially here on the West Coast). HBO has done a poor job of promoting it. No countdown show? & it’s at Yankee Stadium? C’mon!

by steak_knife on Jun 5, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. I’m not a huge boxing fan but I do watch from time to time. I had no idea this was tonight. Is Scott Coker running their promotional dept?

Root for the home team jack ass

by KING FEDOR on Jun 5, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree man – there’s been nothing.

"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"

by lcollins1 on Jun 5, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fight posters are all over the subway stations here in NYC. Lots of people I know who live here are talking about it.

by Gideon Jay on Jun 5, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok – I mean from a multimedia perspective. I’ve seen very little press on the fight.

"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"

by lcollins1 on Jun 5, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...

here in the midwest there’s really not been much hype for it at all that I’ve seen.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 5, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

There hasn't been much press here in Puerto Rico either

Other than just a couple of banners here and there.

There isn’t much word of mouth buzz either, but that would probably be because people here aren’t really familiar with Foreman

by IRodC on Jun 5, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if Cotto can walk through the jab of Foreman he can attack the body and make it look similar to the Malignaggi fight.

That being said, the worry mostly comes from the mental aspect on Cotto’s side. He has looked very different in interviews, much more relaxed than before. There was an article in a site in spanish that compared him to Tito Trinidad vs. Winky Wright where Tito had nothing and seemed content with the L. I hope that is not the case.

If Cotto wins this will probably be his last hurrah, and the swan song for elite PR boxers.

by IRodC on Jun 5, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

the swan song for elite PR boxers

Whaaaaa? Juan Manuel Lopez disagrees.

His inevitable clash with Gamboa is the most exiting possible fight for me outside of Floyd/Manny

Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death

by Anthony Pace on Jun 5, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s not really a big draw.

Also there is more of a possibility that Lopez loses before there is even a fight with Gamboa.

Rocky Martinez is being padded for a possible world title, but he is not a world class fighter yet and he gets hit too much for him to be successful at the world level.

Wilfredo Vazuez Jr. also has to better his technique a bit before going up against the elite, he could possibly fight Johnathan Oquendo who is a good fighter but far from world class.

There are also fighter like Luis Cruz and Luis Del Valle who were brilliant in the amateur circuit yet still got a long way to go.

Don’t get me wrong, prospects are being groomed to become the next great ones, but I don’t see them reaching that world level IMO

by IRodC on Jun 5, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the fight with Gamboa will happen next year, and I don’t see Lopez losing before then. Concepcion is a classy fighter, but Lopez is just too much for him at this point in his career.

Gamboa probably fights a guy like Celestino Caballero, then they’re one fight away from each other for a pretty big-time fight in the Cuba v. Puerto Rico circles. I like the slow-burn approach, and whoever wins the JuanMa/Gamboa fight is poised for stardom in higher weight classes like lightweight, where bigger money starts coming in.

Vazquez is good, but I’ve never been big on the “Sons of Legends”

Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death

by Anthony Pace on Jun 5, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gamboa is like

concentrated lightning.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Jun 5, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

a boxing match in yankee stadium?

how come ive never heard of this cottos something of a name and foreman is a very popular jewish boxer

i live in the new york area and although im simply a casual boxing fan the fact that ive never heard it besides on a mma blog is pretty bad

We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!

by milk72 on Jun 5, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Do you read the NY Newspapers and ride the subway?

by Gideon Jay on Jun 5, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live in Texas but…

this guy’s comment is funny considering our dialogue above.

"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"

by lcollins1 on Jun 5, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been waiting for this one. I’m glad since theres no MMA on, I’ll at least get to check this out. I really hope Cotto brings the thunder.

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Jun 5, 2010 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t pay enough attention about boxing to make any sort of statement about the quality of the fighters, but the weather here sucks tonight.

It’s muggy as shit. I hope for the fighters’ sake that the ring is covered and it starts raining to break the humidity.

by Phildo on Jun 5, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

i must have missed the line about the ring being covered on first glance. Seriously though, it’s gross, start doing a rain dance.

by Phildo on Jun 5, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forget Roach

Manny is by far the best in the business.

by Electro Boy on Jun 5, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Is the koscheck poke in there? lol

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by IHateMMA on Jun 6, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Cotto’s reward for putting pac man over. Great job all the way around from cotto to the golden boy bookers making pac man look like a million bucks and getting cotto his heat back. Simply excellent.

by Armando Favela on Jun 7, 2010 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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