With Joe Stevenson reportedly suffering a knee injury in training, Tyson Griffin will now step in to face Takanori Gomi at UFC on Versus 2 in San Diego on August 1st, according to Dave Meltzer.
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interesting
"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni
Wow.
I think Gomi will have more trouble with Tyson than he would have with Joe.
That was my first thought. Probably not nearly the submission threat Stevenson is, but a better wrestler and striker.
i disagree. gomi made a career out of beating good wrestler/striker combinations – sakurai, kawajiri, pulver. it’s the bjj guys that give him trouble – guys like kitaoka, florian and aurelio
everything dana white says is a complete lie
by slantedwindows on Jun 28, 2010 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I think if we are honest, the Gomi of today is having a lot of trouble with either. Let’s hope he’s somehow not that Gomi though.
by TheKeyboardWarrior on Jun 28, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Weird, because I know Gomi and Tyson trained together at one point
2 fights in a row for Tyson in that sense
by I Can't Feel My Face on Jun 27, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
Bad news for The Fireball Kid. Tyson’s stand up is light years better than Joe’s
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 27, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions
And his grappling is fantastic
He would have been a better first match for Gomi though, just to see where he stands in today’s MMA world.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 27, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
This was the fight I called for to be his first in the UFC.
If Gomi can’t beat a wrestleboxer like Tyson Griffin, who would have been a joke fight in 2005, then he doesn’t have much left to offer.
I’d still like to see him get Sherk in one of those UFC/PRIDE matches made a bit too late (Couture/Nog, Sylvia/Nog, Chuck/Shogun).
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Sherk/Gomi is a great fight just to set someone out of the UFC. Sherk hasn’t fought in a year, and looked awful against Edgar.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 27, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Sherk hasn't lost to a single fighter
who didn’t end up being a top 10 p4p. Hughes, GSP, Penn, and Edgar are not terrible losses. Gomi is a former top p4p guy too, it seems right up his alley.
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by pdl on Jun 27, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That doesn’t mean his skillset hasn’t diminished or been passed over. I don’t think he can compete with the highest level of the UFC.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Me either.
I think his knees are done which is why he doesn’t shoot anymore. But it would still be a fun fight, and I don’t think todays Gomi is the highest level of the UFC.
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This repeats the same issue that is either setting up young fighters to move up in rankings with a past their prime veteran or having to continue the 2 and out due to contract cost. Sherk/Gomi fulfills that dream fight 5 years too late but at this point I think Gomi beats Sherk due to a better reach, I don’t think Sherk can shoot anymore.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd
Cutting Sean Sherk is madness.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jun 28, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
If my memory is right Gomi specifically asked for not a wrestler in his first fight.
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 27, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He asked for...
Not a Florian in his second fight.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
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by Razreshat on Jun 27, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would have just asked for not a screaming Florian in my opponents corner for my second fight.
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 27, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Would you rather have a Serra or a Florian in your corner?
Foot Stomps Drago vs. Keith Florian screaming.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 27, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Drago. That’s an easy one for me.
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 27, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If only Serra would cut to 155
To have the greatest TUF EVER! TUF 13: SERRA vs. FLORIAN!
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 27, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Why DOES pasta have to be so damn delicious?!?!
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 27, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Mother fucking Fettucini Alfredo
Too fucking delicious to pass up ever.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the Florian fight was the same as the UFC giving Kimbo Mitrione after refusing to cut to 205. But this is a much more dangerous fight in my opinion because getting clowned on the feet is one thing, getting clowned on the ground makes you look like a kid. Tyson could clown him hard.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 27, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you equating Florian to...
Mitrione?
Or am I crazy?
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
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You crazy
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 28, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m saying based on the relative skills Gomi’s nightmare opponent is Florian. Mitrione was Kimbo’s. People just didn’t see that prior.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I think anybody with a Zuffa contract is Kimbo’s nightmare opponent. Seriously. Dominic Cruz would be a bad fight for him.
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by pdl on Jun 28, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
They had to get him out the door somehow and not risk a big name just in case
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 28, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I mean if the UFC wanted to cripple him, they would have put him in with Pat Barry.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
damn
he would have kicked his leg clean off
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 28, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Then paused...
before going in for the finish.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
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Barry would have Ko’d Kimbo, due to the force of him faceplanting hard after leg kicks
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Thank you.
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If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
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Dominic Cruz
Looked really good in winning that title. That was a fun fight to watch. I am looking forward to the rematch.
I didnt see anything from Gomi when he fought Kenny that makes me think he stands a chance against Tyson. I expect Tyson to wreck his shit just like he did to Hermes Franca
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 27, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I completely agree that Tyson pushes his shit in.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
What an awful phrase.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 28, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
my bad.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
But I just stopped watching American History X
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
You could have said...
he curb stomps him…
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
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Florian is a totally different bag of worms than Tyson.
Tyson doesn’t have the length or jab of Kenny which were the deciding factors of that fight. He also doesn’t have that crisp of boxing.His workrate combined with the sluggish and historically deficient striking of Franca give a hell of an illusion, but he didn’t offer much to Sherk or Dunham.
Griffin can win this fight, but the Florian fight doesn’t tell us much about his chances. And if glimmers of the old Fireball Kid show up, this a nightmare matchup.
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I think the UFC is wasting a huge fight
A Gomi/Guillard fight would be fucking fantastic. It would also give Gomi a fighter that wants to stand and trade who also has a relatively big name in the UFC due to TUF/UFNs. It would benefit Melvin by giving him the “big name” win he needs.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
People who would see that as a name win for Guillard
already know he’s a killer. Gomi is not a great win to casuals, and the rest of us would just say he’s done as a fighter.
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I disagree since CroCop was Gonzaga’s name win and was a hero to the hardcores without a huge casual following.
Guillard would be a huge name win for Gomi. He won’t just jab the shit outta you, and he has a “suspect” enough chin that a clean Gomi hayemaker would put him out.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
And if glimmers of the old Fireball Kid show up, this a nightmare matchup.
That is a big, big, if.
Not to mention that Hermes has a rock head.
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 28, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Huge if. I don't think it will happen.
But I sure as shit hope it does.
Worth remembering is that Franca showed up overweight, got put out COLD in his next fight, then retired. That was Tyson’s fight to break his 3 year decision streak. He’s a tough fight for anybody, but so is Clay Guida… who was a tough fight for him.
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Absolutely
I personally thought Clay won that fight, Tyson even looked like he knew he lost that fight after the final bell.
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by Earl Montclair on Jun 28, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Franca would have taken him down and subbed him,most likely.Gomi,at his best,was still a guy who got tapped when put on the floor with a good grappler.A lot of people forget that he got put to sleep by Aurelio,who was a B level lightweight his entire career.
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I don’t know what the UFC is thinking with the guys they’ve given Gomi. Do they even want him to succeed? Gomi should have never fought Kenny Florian and Tyson Griffin is no better. I wish they would have given him somebody easier. Preferably a non-grappler.
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Why give him someone easier?
If he can’t compete at the top tier he doesn’t deserve to be at the highest level of the sport. If he beat Florian he would have gotten an immediate title shot against Penn. Now he needs to prove he belongs.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 28, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m saying give someone easier because he’s fighting in a cage for only the second time in his career. I think it’s obvious that he can’t hang with the top tier lightweights, but I think he’s a decent mid-tier guy, and I think the UFC should treat him as such. He had no business ever being in the same cage as Kenny Florian. He would lose that fight 10 out of 10 times.
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by Dr. Octagon on Jun 28, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully this means that Girffin learned his lesson from the Dunham loss, enough of trying to be exciting and worry about winning fights. He goes out and beats Gomi he’ll get back alot of his momentum that he just lost, for his sake he won’t fall into the Sean Sherk trap or he could get beat again.
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This went from Gomi win to Griffin decision.
Sad.
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Should be a great fight but I think Griffin is going to be too much for Gomi
For Stevenson….I’d give him the Guida/Dos Anjos winner.
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by SSreporters on Jun 28, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Stoked, I love both of them, should be a war.
Gomi was probably gonna rape the hell out of Joe, and Im glad to see Tyson back so soon.
This could be FOTY. I wish Gomi would have had Stevenson for his first UFC fight instead of Florian, not a very nice welcome present.
That was Danas plan to shoot him straight to a title shot/rematch, if he had won the fight.
by A K I R A on Jun 28, 2010 3:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think, like most moves Dana makes, ...
it was a win-win for the UFC.
Florian wins, he gains that much more credibility for another shot at the title.
Gomi wins, he’s beaten the consensus #2 LW in the world and deserves an immediate title shot.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
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