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Kamal Shalorus' #1 Contender Fight Against Jamie Varner at WEC 49 Brings Proud Persian Wrestling Tradition to MMA

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Sunday night's WEC lightweight title headliner is more than a chance for fans to see Jamie Varner take some shots to the face. It's a chance to see a representative of one of the world's oldest and proudest martial arts traditions testing his skills in the MMA cage. Former Olympian Kamal Shalorus represents Iranian wrestling when he fights for the WEC.

Michael David Smith wrote a good piece on Shalorus' background and upbringing in Iran:

Growing up in the small town of Khalkhal in Northern Iran, Shalorus eschewed formal workouts and instead became one of his country's strongest amateur wrestlers by getting up early every day and putting in long hours of heavy lifting working on the family farm.

"I know some athletes who developed their strength through technology," Shalorus said in an interview with MMAFighting.com. "Not me. I got it working with my hands, working in the field all day, working with the animals. We had sheep, goats, horses -- I'd have to build a barn for the animals, I'd have to work in the garden and then go chop down a tree, I'd have to go into the mountains to get something. It was a hard workout. I would often think to myself while I was working that this would also help me with my wrestling."

It worked. Shalorus earned a spot on Iran's junior national team and traveled around the world competing in amateur wrestling, and once he had traveled as far as amateur wrestling could take him, he made the transition to professional mixed martial arts.

And although Shalorus emigrated to Great Britain and competed with their Olympic team rather than Iran's, Iran maintains one of the best wrestling programs in the world. They beat the U.S. team in the World Cup back in March.

Here's a good piece from CNN talking about Iranian wrestling:

"In Iran, wrestling and soccer are the two major sports," said Gary Abbott, director of communications for USA Wrestling in Colorado Springs, Colorado. "They know their wrestling as well as anyone in the world. They treat our athletes like kings."

...

Abbott said Iran is one of the top wrestling powers in the world, along with countries such as the United States, Russia, Turkey and Ukraine. Competing in a wrestling-crazy society like Iran is special to Americans, who look forward to getting on the mats before large crowds in sold-out arenas.

"For the common citizen, an American wrestler in Iran is like Michael Jordan going over there," Abbott said, referring to the world-famous American basketball legend.

And it's not just the modern day Iran that is crazy for wrestling. Ancient Persia developed Varzesh-e Pahlavani long before any other country but India or ancient Greece had developed the martial arts. Pahlvani is a form of wrestling intertwined with as much religious meaning as anything the Shaolin monks ever devised.

The cultural importance of wrestling in Iran continued throughout the 20th century, with 1956 Olympic gold medalist Gholamreza Takhti becoming a cultural superstar and sadly, eventually a martyr to the Shah's repressive regime.

Here's hoping that someday soon Iran and the U.S. can get on better terms so that gold mine of Iranian wrestlers can start competing in MMA. Kamal Shalorus is hopefully just the first of many of his countrymen to make their mark in international MMA.

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C’mon BE, that is embarrassing!

by William Wilson on Jun 19, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

not really

It’s an honest mistake…mountain outta molehill.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 19, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it's a horrific mistake.

You should know this kind of stuff writing on a website this big with this many hits each day.

by Geno Mrosko on Jun 19, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a fight with title implications

I emailed Nate so I’m sure this will be fixed shortly. It’s most likely a #1 contender fight.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 19, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get some perspective on this...

It’s a mistake. No one is lying or accepting illicit money for articles or engaging in otherwise nefarious behavior. BE has made mistakes; BE will make more in the future.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 19, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't try to downplay it

call it for what it is. Kid Nate is a knowledgeable guy who writes for an MMA website. This is the kind of stuff you have to know. Even just a small amount of research would show that this isn’t a title fight. It’s horrible. That’s all there is to it.

by Geno Mrosko on Jun 19, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did call it for what it is: a mistake. If you think it’s such a big deal, then email him and give him an earful. Otherwise, just wait it out for him to realize the error and change it. I’m sure he’d be glad to get blogging tips from you.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 19, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got no reason to be a smartass dude

It is a mistake. A really bad one which is inexcusable. That’s all there is too it.

by Geno Mrosko on Jun 19, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look I know you gotta hate nate and all

but seriously it’s not the end of the world. Just breath homie.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 19, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I enjoy reading Kid Nate stuff.

But I see the whole gang mentality of me saying what it is and you guys getting all defensive.

by Geno Mrosko on Jun 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're right

I appreciate the other guys taking up for me, but it’s a fucking flagrant, blatant horrible mistake. I would commit hari kari but I got the kid to consider.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It’s ridiculous, it only took you like 30 minutes to fix it and yet there’s so much Nate Hate.

By the way, don’t you mean you should commit seppuku? ;)

by HarmlessNinja on Jun 19, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck another mistake

time to kamikaze someone on the freeway!

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by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not Nate hate.

It’s calling out a really bad mistake.

by Geno Mrosko on Jun 19, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

'Cause that puppy wouldn't have had to die

if he’d just FIXED it, right?

Damn, man, take a breath.

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by duck on Jun 19, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cue:

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

too early

there’s gotta be 100 more comments on the mistake in the title.

Haitians gonna hait.

by Electro Boy on Jun 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get off it dude

I your so offended by human error then maybe this isn’t the site for you.

by Worldisart on Jun 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ya we fuck up all the time!

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by Earl Montclair on Jun 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus

And now I know why the mods are antzy when it comes to banning people. They get nothin but hate ^

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by xAtlasx on Jun 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy fuck

How stupid are you people? Let em fucking ban me. You nuthuggers need to jump off of his dick. All I said was it’s a horrible mistake, which it is.
If you are any kind of MMA fan you should know this kind of shit. Not only has that belt been lost by Varner but the guy he lost it to even defended that belt on the biggest WEC show of all time. Just sad. Even sadder that you people are trying so hard to defend a position that isn’t defendable.

by Geno Mrosko on Jun 19, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I enjoy MostDiabolicalHater’s comments, despite his name.

by Electro Boy on Jun 19, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why

but I just burst out laughing

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by xAtlasx on Jun 19, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do YOU mean you people?!

by Lordjimbo2 on Jun 19, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah! Kick his ass, Seabass!

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by Luke Thomas on Jun 19, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mouth + Brown Paper Bag

by judonerd on Jun 19, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

To err is human. I believe some really really smart guy said that. Someone with many leatherbound books and who’s office smells of rich mahogany…

by ManicPreacher on Jun 20, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

If this is your idea of horrific, then you live one hell of a sheltered life.

we're seeking articulate and thoughtful you are neither.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 15, 2010 3:47 PM CDT
Kid Hate layin it down

by II SMASH II on Jun 19, 2010 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

BE is considered a professional site...

that MMA Live gets its news from. This is embarrassing for an legit news org. This is not an honest mistake, especially since Nate goes on to mention the title two times in the opening paragraph.

by William Wilson on Jun 19, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not an honest mistake?

Are you implying that Nate is deliberately feeding us misinformation?

I suspect the hammer will strike swift and true on the likes of you.

by Worldisart on Jun 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

well

it is an honest mistake in the sense that I didn’t intend to deceive or mislead. It’s an inexcusable mistake. All apologies.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You get one too.

If you fight, you fight. If you hope, you hope.

by Sabate on Jun 19, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is embarrassing

it’s also fixed.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Title Fight? WTF?

The MMA gods must have answered Jamie Varner’s prayers.

by BrothaDarkness on Jun 19, 2010 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps Varner’s World DB Lightweight title is up for grabs?

by Velcro on Jun 19, 2010 2:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Dont you guys remember?

Henderson fought like a bitch to win the title, so the WEC gave it back to Varner.

we're seeking articulate and thoughtful you are neither.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 15, 2010 3:47 PM CDT
Kid Hate layin it down

by II SMASH II on Jun 19, 2010 2:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Wiki had it listed as

Loss – Submission (Came to fight, got grappled)

by Electro Boy on Jun 19, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a mistake

Pretty bad, but it’s not the end of the world. It’s strange that he wouldn’t double check that just to be sure. I google the shit out of everything just to make sure my facts are straight.

Anyway, I think it’s time we start putting all of our child wrestlers out to work on a farm, it’s clearly the best way to train. Weight training is city folk bs, real manual labor is where it’s at.

by Electro Boy on Jun 19, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Manual labor, followed by a hearty country breakfast!

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 19, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Big Country breakfast?

by HarmlessNinja on Jun 19, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uOAkAKAvw0

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 19, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Working on a farm probably helped Matt Hughes get to where he did. That and “pounding his brother out back behind the barn”.

by HarmlessNinja on Jun 19, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was actually obsessing about the paucity

of online sources about Varzesh-e Pahlavani. I know I learned about it online in a great series of articles somewhere!
honestly the WEC lightweight title is utterly irrelevant to me.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Second.

And tangentially related: This fight means significantly less than Tyson Griffin vs. Evan Dunham.

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by pdl on Jun 19, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you can post a link to those articles...

…all will be forgiven regarding the “title shot” error…

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 19, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL this is kinda bad i must say, I know it’s a mistake and all i’m not trying to be a douche bag ..lol…it seems weird that its there more then once…like the first time is like ok…but in the article and the title of the article? yikes lol

by moonlapse88 on Jun 19, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

there's too much MMA going on

and I got too much day job.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha it’s all good man rock on \m/

by moonlapse88 on Jun 19, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Rich Franklin faces Chuck Liddell for the title"

“It’s not that bad” – 50% of BE readers

Think about it.

by William Wilson on Jun 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Shut up

You’ve made your point.

by Worldisart on Jun 19, 2010 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Anyway

I’m hoping to god that Kamal demonstrates that excellent Persian wrestling against Varner.

I really don’t want him to throw those winging punches against someone like the former champ.

Also glad to see the history thrown into the article, it’s one of the resons I enjoy your articles, even when i disagree.

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by xAtlasx on Jun 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a mistake and one that never should've been made

But it’s a shame the content of Nate’s post – content that demonstrates cultural and sporting literacy – is being lost at the expense. To each his own, I suppose.

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by Luke Thomas on Jun 19, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

yea.. my goodness

I came after the mistake was fixed. I loved the article and as usual was hoping to read some comments on what was written.

I never knew that Iran was so into wrestling.

Thanks Nate.

by ruckus on Jun 19, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

They pack stadiums with big wrestling meets

They’re also excellent power lifters.

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by Luke Thomas on Jun 19, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

this:

“Here’s hoping that someday soon Iran and the U.S. can get on better terms so that gold mine of Iranian wrestlers can start competing in MMA. Kamal Shalorus "

Here’s hoping indeed… can’t wait to be an MMA fan 10 years from now.

by ruckus on Jun 19, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wish that Zuffa would make a concerted effort to attract middle eastern talent. Maybe they could do something ludicrous like launch an international TUF in that region of the planet.

[/sarcasm]

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by Steve4192 on Jun 19, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arabs don't have the same wrestling tradition...

…it’s almost like they are of a different ethnicity, speak a different language, and war periodically. Would you do a ski boarding reality show in Mexico? Lots of Americans are good at it! And it’s the same “region of the planet.”

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by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 19, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great point

The article isn’t even about the title shot/#1 contendership, it’s about wrestling. I’ve been pretty critical about the articles but lately Nate’s pieces have been great.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 19, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just am confused why if fighters from that region want to fight here they cant do it. Is is an ideological thing, a immigration/ customs thing or what?

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by Earl Montclair on Jun 19, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOTS of politics

Iran and the US have basically been on a diplomatic near-war footing since 1979. We’re currently pressuring the UN to ramp up sanctions on them for their nuclear ambitions.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am aware of all that

but I didnt think that it would trickle down that far.

"The only reason I'm cryin is cuz of the adrenaline."

by Earl Montclair on Jun 19, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's actually very much a two way thing...

Most Iranians can’t even get visitor visas to come see family in the US.

by DrFernando on Jun 19, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine tells me that the Persian youth really want change and modernnization, but she also explains that can all disappear quickly. Soldiers on the street corners has a way of nationalizing even the discontent.

by Bob Boblaw on Jun 19, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iran and America

Probably the most tense political relationship in the world right now.

by ruckus on Jun 19, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s also North Korea vs Everyone.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 19, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was surprised by them being in the World Cup

i didnt think they wanted to party at all.

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by Earl Montclair on Jun 19, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make no mistake – the people there aren’t idiots. They tend to hate KJI, but can’t do anything about it. They don’t buy into his propaganda at all. I’m sure they’d all love to come play soccer if Dear Leader would let them.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 19, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

They hate KJI but it is comes down to the fact that

if N. Korea has a decent showing and isn’t embarrassed at all, he’ll be editing those games to show the superiority.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 19, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't think that's true.

Kim Jong-il is one of the world’s most repressive leaders, true. But almost all reports indicate that, while North Koreans hate their horrible economic conditions, most don’t blame Jong-il’s regime, and instead blame “Western imperialism” for the countries economic problems. In fact, roughly half of refugees from North Korea – people who’ve risked their lives to escape the country – still say they support the regime and see it as the victim of Western powers.

It’s sad, but it gives you some idea of the power of propaganda – especially that of the North Korean regime.

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by Sabate on Jun 19, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

all reports coming from the country pretty much show that the general populace has been pretty successfully brainwashed into believing the party line.

it’s quite remarkable.

probably the single most successful incidence of state control in history.

by ruckus on Jun 19, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t heard that, but I can definitely see it as being true. If you’re inundated with only a limited worldview, it’s almost impossible not to accept it. I do know they can’t stand it there, though.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 19, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

North Korea is a bit of a joke.

Only thing stopping them from being dealt with is China’s fear of 5 million refugees streaming across that border.

by ruckus on Jun 19, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

And....

Nuclear weapons. And enough conventional artillery at the border to level Seoul, South Korea in minutes.

While the North Korea regime has horribly repressed its people and left the economy in tatters, it still presents a significant military threat.

If you fight, you fight. If you hope, you hope.

by Sabate on Jun 19, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

you can also take into account the affinity south koreans feel towards people who are essentially their brothers/sisters and the support that stems from those feelings.

but if it wasn’t for China the screws would have slowly been tightened on the democratic republic for the past 10 years now.

by ruckus on Jun 19, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I misunderstood.

You’re right. China is in fact the only thing standing between much more harsh economic and diplomatic sanctions on North Korea. Also, it’s pretty much propping up the regime with aid at this point.

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by Sabate on Jun 19, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should stepdown from this site immediately

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 19, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your only human

Rest of the Article is gold just do a double take before you hit that post button next time.

by MattParker117 on Jun 19, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a screwup

no two ways about it. sometimes headlines get screwed up. sometimes writers and editors get ahead of themselves.

but i’ll say this: the article itself? gold. when he puts his mind to it, Kid Nate is the best writer on this site.

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by bobthewriter on Jun 19, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

well thanks

Bob, that’s mighty nice of you.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're very welcome.

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by bobthewriter on Jun 19, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's..

..a crock of poo, that’s what it is.

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by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 19, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Functional Strength

I used to work a physical job (waaay back). It’s amazing how much functional strength and muscle endurance is developed through just lifting heavy stuff all day.

by HarmlessNinja on Jun 19, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting aside... somewhat unrelated

Moussasi is of Iranian-Armenian background (born in Iran). Obviously no wrestling background though….

by DrFernando on Jun 19, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

What's strange

Is that Armenians are good wrestlers, too. Not nearly on the level of Iran. Not even close, but they have decent programs.

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by Luke Thomas on Jun 19, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Y’all should do a series or articles about martial arts around the world. As more people from more diverse backgrounds enter the sport, it’d be nice to learn & discuss them – Cung Le’s san shou, now Iranian wrestling – any more interesting styles debuting soon?

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 19, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, in general martial arts are very big in Iran...

Including Judo, Tae kwon do, of course wrestling is king. They have had previous olympic medalists in both of those. Probably at least in part due to the pent-up frustration in many of the young people.
One other thing, I wonder if Roxi Modafferi is also of Iranian lineage, haven’t found any sources to confirm, but her name sounds very suggestive of the fact.

by DrFernando on Jun 19, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mousasi's family emigrated from Iran

when he was 8. Too young to have the chance to have competed as a wrestler.

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by Sabate on Jun 19, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, he's just a slacker.

Reals wrestlers have their first injury timeouts for diaper changes.

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by duck on Jun 19, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

LoL

Actually youre not far off, lots of wrestlers in Iran do start as young as 5-6 years old. Kind of like Baseball equivalent here I guess…

by DrFernando on Jun 19, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shalorus and the Olympics

I’ve seen Shalorus referred to as an “Olympic wrestler,” but my research indicated that he didn’t qualify for the Olympics. Any contrasting info?

by Beau Dure on Jun 19, 2010 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmmm

It’s hard to find 100% reputable sources, but his biography on his WEC page says he represented Great Britain in the 2004 Olympics. The bio basically tells his life story and Shalorus provides much of the information himself.

http://www.wec.tv/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=25436&pid=1156

by Electro Boy on Jun 19, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

then again

this yahoo page had a link to all 2004 Olympic participants. I searched for his name and found nothing. Then I searched for Great Britain and Wrestling. I came up with one name, not Shalorus. Perhaps he was on their national team but did not qualify for the Olympics.

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/athens2004/athletes?lname=all&country=gbr&sport=wrestling

by Electro Boy on Jun 19, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s what happened.

Here are results from a qualifying tournament from USA Wrestling’s site:

http://themat.com/results.php?page=display_results&EventID=8790

by Beau Dure on Jun 19, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good research

I should have just checked TheMat.

by Electro Boy on Jun 19, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw

that one man representing GB was not a big name or a medalist, he was eliminated early in the competition. I’m led to believe if they had that guy on record despite his early losses they would have anyone who competed.

by Electro Boy on Jun 19, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right.

Bear in mind on qualifying tournament — in some Olympic events, athletes are trying to win quota spots for their countries. They don’t necessarily take the athlete who earned that spot. That’s likely why you might see a wrestler from Ukraine or Iran listed on those results who isn’t listed on the Olympic results.

Full results from 2004 are here:
http://www.la84foundation.org/6oic/OfficialReports/2004/Results/Wrestling.pdf

And also your COMPLETE source for Olympics coverage, USA TODAY:
http://content.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/athens/schedule.aspx?dc=wf

by Beau Dure on Jun 19, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAR KAMAL

Kamal should win this fight. He should just take down Varner and pound that smug fuck’s face in all day long.

by Jonathan. on Jun 19, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Ya’ll have some balls criticizing franklin mcneil after this string of fuckups XP

by Hendo_One-Shot on Jun 19, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Franklin doesn't make corrections

but i have to say his report before UFC 113 about Shogun’s knee may very well have been true.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

he can’t make corrections, its live.

by Hendo_One-Shot on Jun 20, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

whoa

book that guy against Leonidas from TUF now

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