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UFC 115 Post-Fight Analysis: Rich Franklin Ends Chuck Liddell's Legendary Career

Has Rich Franklin put an end to Chuck Liddell's career? Photo by MMAWeekly.com.

UFC 115 is in the books, and as usual -- an event that didn't have much hype or interest due to the lesser names associated with the card delivered some exciting fights. Unfortunately, the names are what sell the card, and it isn't looking great for the UFC in terms of talk regarding buyrates for this event.  But from a fan perspective, we couldn't have asked for much better.

Chuck Liddell proved that he is truly finished in the sport as Rich Franklin landed a hard counter right hand to the chin of the "Iceman" to down him in the first round of their light heavyweight main event showdown. Liddell didn't look terribly bad in his gameplan and attacks, but his weakened chin from years of fighting and the recent streak of knockouts was ultimately the culprit to his demise as a fighter.

Impressively, Franklin was able to defeat Liddell despite breaking his left arm in a previous exchange during the fight. Probing with his left arm, Franklin was still able to use it to set up the heavy right hand that downed Liddell later in the round, a feat that one could say was miraculous.

We probably won't see Chuck fight again, but his aggressiveness has been a huge part of why he's been on the losing end quite often recently. Franklin backed into the fence, took some shots that were more annoying than damaging, and then unleashed a monster counter right as Chuck moved in for the kill. Instead of remaining patient and picking his shots from a ranged position, Liddell got a bit greedy, and he paid the price.

For Franklin, I think he should definitely get a chance at taking on some better competition in the division. Most fans consider him past his prime, but Franklin hasn't really proven that to be a reality. He's only lost to some of the better fighters in the world at their respective weight classes, and I think guys like Thiago Silva or Forrest Griffin wouldn't be bad fights for Franklin.

In heavyweight action, Mirko "CroCop" Filipovic defeated Patrick Barry via a rear naked choke in the third round. For a majority of the fight, Mirko outclassed Barry with the exception of being knocked down twice by overhands from Barry in the first round. Unfortunately, Barry was unable to capitalize on those chances, and he was never really able to string together any significant offense after those exchanges. This was more than likely due to the injuries he sustained in the fight, a broken hand and foot.

I think fans really bought into a perception that Barry was some sort of pinpoint, heavy-handed striker. Fans forget that Mirko comes from a kickboxing background, and he's a better kickboxer than Barry. He's also better defensively than any of Barry's past opponents, and it showed in this fight. Barry had a very tough time trying to time Mirko, and once Mirko was able to establish that he could put Barry to the floor -- it became even more apparent that Barry was confused as to where Mirko's offense was going to come from.

Mirko won't be making a run at the top of the division by any means, but he still has some speed in his stand-up and kicking power. I would have liked to see him use his legs more, but I think Mirko is still a bit scared to test his knee fully yet. Hopefully, time will heal that lack of confidence. Perhaps, the Ben Rothwell vs. Mirko "CroCop" Filipovic fight can finally happen.

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Admittedly, I was completely wrong about Martin Kampmann, and it's solely because it's just too hard to gauge exactly how much a fighter improves between fights. The Kampmann we saw on Saturday night was an absolute nightmare, and if he can continue to fight in that capacity -- he could be a real threat for contention. This definitely wasn't the Martin Kampmann we saw against Carlos Condit or Paul Daley, and his trouncing of Paulo Thiago should launch him into the top ten with some huge potential to gain a very relevant fight in the future.

Thiago's failures were everywhere. He wasn't able to control Kampmann on the ground, and he found himself in some bad positions continuously despite being a touted Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. His stand-up went from crisp and accurate in past performances to looping overhand rights and lefts that were "hoping" to land. There wasn't any technical prowess in the way Thiago fought, and it's a bit hard to see exactly how his form dipped suddenly.

Other Notes

- The Yvel-Rothwell tilt was one of the more comical fights of the evening. Ben Rothwell was absolutely terrible in his positioning from mount as he lost mount multiple times as Gilbert Yvel bucked him. Even when Rothwell was able to gain mount against a very tired Yvel, he couldn't produce any offense that was damaging enough to knock Yvel out.

Yvel's propensity to try to knee Rothwell's head while he was standing up straight against the fence was perplexing and frustrating to watch. Unbelievably, he actually landed one as Rothwell ducked, putting Rothwell into a daze. Yvel also landed some of the most brutal ground and pound we've seen in a long time in the second round on Rothwell's chin, and to be perfectly honest -- I don't know how Rothwell survived.

Rothwell probably earns himself a battle against a top 15 fighter, and I think CroCop is the perfect guy as they were matched up previously. But I also think his performance against Yvel didn't help him with fans believing he could run through CroCop. His gas tank was completely gone after the second round, and his only saving grace was the fact that Yvel was even more tired.

- Rory MacDonald may have actually won his battle with Carlos Condit had it gone to the judges, but I would have been a bit confused if a judge actually scored the final round 10-9. Condit absolutely demolished the youthful 20-year-old prospect with elbows and punches from top control, cutting open MacDonald in multiple places. If anything, a 10-8 round was going to be the right call, and it could have possibly led to a draw.

Fortunately, I think the referee made the right call. MacDonald was being dominated, and Condit's solid conditioning and ability to produce offense late in fights came through for him once again. Condit's striking is still rather lacking as he continues to kick while being headhunted by opponents. MacDonald landed multiple combinations over the top of Condit's kicks, and a fighter with a bit more power would have probably put Condit on ice. Mike Swick or Matt Serra might be decent match-ups for Condit in the future.

- Tyson Griffin didn't exactly get dominated by Evan Dunham, but Dunham was definitely impressive. He used his size and ground acumen to be a real threat on the floor, and he was able to batter Griffin with his lead left for most of the fight. Griffin's aggressiveness worked against him as Dunham used it to transition the fight to the ground in both round one and two. Griffin simply couldn't put Dunham down after catching a kick in the third, and in almost every instance -- Dunham took Griffin's back. Truly impressive to watch those transitions and Griffin's inability to stop them.

- Mac Danzig got screwed. We can't really say too much about that, and in reality -- he may have had a chance to reverse position and put Matt Wiman on his back from where they were at. Unfortunate, but I think we'll see a rematch.

- Mario Miranda absolutely dominated David Loiseau. It wasn't even a fight as Loiseau was fending off attacks on the feet and on the ground for a majority of the fight while producing little offense. In the opening of the second round, Loiseau was able to catch Miranda, but he gave up a takedown following the exchange. That takedown led to Loiseau being brutally battered until the stoppage.

Miranda's takedowns are decent, although we can't really learn much from this fight as Loiseau has always been susceptible. Miranda's strength is a huge asset though, and his Brazilian jiu-jitsu skills are very high level. I look forward to seeing who the UFC will match him with in the future.

- James Wilks defeated Peter Sobotta via unanimous decision with an one-sided performance that saw Sobotta fighting off submissions for much of the fight. In the first round, Wilks nearly broke off Sobotta's arm and submitted Sobotta with a gogoplata. Yeah, a gogoplata. The rest of the fight was much of the same with some clinch exchanges in the second and tired ground and pound in the third.

- I was most impressed with Claude Patrick's strength in his battle with Ricardo Funch. He damaged Funch with a lot of power from top control in the first round, and the clinch work in the second round that led to the guillotine choke looked as if a man was just throwing around a boy. Patrick is fairly one-dimensional, but he could be an exciting addition.

- Jesse Lennox vs. Mike Pyle wasn't a bad fight by any means. A good variety of ground and standing exchanges, but Pyle's ability to transition to submissions was the difference in the third round. Lennox's wrestling wasn't powerful enough to break free from Pyle's holds, and his striking wasn't accurate. Solid win for Pyle, but I think Pyle could be much better if his striking and defense to strikes could improve.

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I don't want to see Rothwell vs CroCop...

Randy/Toney winner or Big Nog, that’s it… Sadly though, he might just opt to retire.

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 14, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

Rothwell would probably just lay on CroCop in a sloppy fight, like he did against Yvel.

GO SPURS GO!!!

by TDITZ on Jun 14, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That is exactly what I told my friends. Ben would get him down and lay on him.

Cro Cop should be fighting Mir or rematching Big Nog.

by William Wilson on Jun 14, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't be so sure

Part of what allowed Cro Cop to be so dangerous in the past is his evasiveness. He’s very good at pushing opponents off him while standing to keep the fight at range, and sticks and moves really well with his punches. If he times Rothwell, he might be able to do enough damage to his legs in round 1, that by round 2 a gassed Rothwell would become a punching bag.

by superflat on Jun 14, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would want to see Cro Cop land that monster knee like he did against Fujita.

by woomikee on Jun 14, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rothwell vs Duffee

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jun 14, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I knew Martin Kampmann woud win. =)

by Nick Thomas on Jun 14, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think anyone saw that as being that dominant. He looked WAY better than previous fights IMO.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

he’s shown flashes, but this was probably his most complete performance. He seems to really love the arm triangle, and threatened with it a lot on the ground. His arm triangle vs McFedries was very slick, so he’s had some jiu jitsu skill for a while, but he really put things together nicely.

Thiago is definitely more power than finesse standing up, so I wasn’t surprised to see Kampmann out strike him, even though Thiago has improved there. The grappling was a surprise though how much Kampmann dominated.

I consider myself a softcore fan.

by Thor77 on Jun 14, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

his weakened chin from years of fighting and the recent streak of knockouts was ultimately the culprit to his demise as a fighter.

I’m not sure you can definitively say this. The right that Franklin threw, was hard enough to split Chuck’s upper lip almost a half an inch. A granite chin can’t defend against that.

by WestbergIDFC on Jun 14, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I can and did say that. In reality, Chuck coming in helped Franklin out as well with that punch. I mean, Chuck walked right into it. Just walked right into an overhand right. Just sad.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You're not helping your point here.

He walked into a massive punch. The point is that even a younger chin would have given way.

Not that I disagree with you, but you’re not arguing very well.

by gavingavinkindgavin on Jun 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t trying to help any point.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

What does that have to do with his “weakened chin, being his demise as a fighter”?

by WestbergIDFC on Jun 14, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chuck has taken shots like that in the past and recovered.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s taken shots that have split his lip like that? When? I challenge anyone to take a a punch, while moving forward, right under the nose, and stay standing.

by WestbergIDFC on Jun 14, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Split his lip? Is that impossible or something?

I split my lip yesterday after being blasted in the face by a charging 3 year old. Should I be knocked out? I was fine. Bad argument.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your just lucky that your chin hasn’t taken years of punishment

I get more rec's then a Toyota!

by DayGeaux on Jun 14, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It’s nice to say chin, but in reality it’s his brain accumulating scar tissue. I really hope Chuck is ok in his later years.

by rask4p on Jun 14, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well...

That’s ultimately what people mean when they say chin.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely, but I feel that it’s just an easy way not to talk about a serious issue. Chuck has brain damage significant enough that we see a pronounced effect. That’s scares the shit out of me and it’s something that I wish people were more explicit about considering the seriousness of the issue.

by rask4p on Jun 14, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually...
his weakened chin from years of fighting and the recent streak of knockouts was ultimately the culprit to his demise as a fighter.

Has nothing to do with this fight in particular. It has to do with his recent losses, and I believe that’s correct.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure I buy into the whole chin argument. It’s real easy to say “his chin has weakened”, but look a little closer at what’s happened.

A huge sweeping hook from Rampage, one of the hardest punchers in MMA, a gargantuan overhand right from Rashad that NOBODY could have taken, a blitzing hook from Rua, and a right from Franklin that smashed his lip open. I’ll say it again, I challenge ANY fighter, “granite chin” or otherwise to take the punches he’s taken, and stay awake.

We’re arguing the same points, but different ways of getting there. I think Chuck’s done, no doubt, but because of his declining reflexes, defense, better all around athletes, and sadly, just the rest of the sport catching up to him.

by WestbergIDFC on Jun 14, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but

those punches + 39 years old = glass chin.

Look at Nogueira in recent years. He’s a lot easier to put down now than when he was in Pride.

by gavingavinkindgavin on Jun 14, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, then we agree to disagree.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Barry was picking Cro Cop apart until he broke a hand AND a foot. Both of his right hands landed HARD after he slipped one of Cro Cop’s punches. It’s not hard to avoid getting hit after your opponent has broken 50% of his offensive weapons.

by gavingavinkindgavin on Jun 14, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I was going to write the same thing

But, Barry is not really a complete MMA fighter, if we’re being honest.

by Gideon Jay on Jun 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I absolutely agree.

But Barry was undeniably winning the kickboxing match that was the first round until he couldn’t strike with his power hand/foot.

by gavingavinkindgavin on Jun 14, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I stated that Barry dropped CroCop twice. But I won’t mention the broken hand and foot hurting his hopes because I was analyzing what actually happened. You’re right, those things did affect his performance.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Barry dropped Mirko

because he was the better kickboxer, and only started getting outclassed after he lost his offensive weapons. I just disagree with your analysis that left out that major point about the fight. Barry was timing Mirko just fine when he blasted him with two overhand rights.

by gavingavinkindgavin on Jun 14, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, he wasn’t the better kickboxer. In fact, kicks didn’t play a heavy role at all due to Mirko’s defense and ability to move out of the way of Barry’s kicks. Barry really wasn’t able to land heavily at all in the kicking department, and Mirko actually landed the better kicks in the second.

In the first, Barry’s PUNCHING was better.. yes.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Barry

threw some great leg kicks in the first that Mirko didn’t check, and checked all of the ones thrown by Crocop. He only started going to the head after he lost his power hand. He slipped two punches to put Crocop down, and was dominating the standup to the point that Crocop turned into a wrestler for Round 2.

by gavingavinkindgavin on Jun 14, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't impressed with Barry.

He looked good in the first round, but then it seems he wanted “to get a room” with Cro Cop after the fight was over. It seemed he was more in awe of Cro Cop, then finishing the fight.

It was really disappointing.

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Jun 14, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

A suggested correction

“In heavyweight action, Mirko “CroCop” Filipovic defeated Patrick Barry via a rear naked choke in the third round. For a majority of the fight, Mirko outclassed Barry with the exception of being knocked down twice by overhands from Barry in the first round. Unfortunately, Barry was unable chose not to capitalize on those chances, and he was never really able to string together any significant offense after those exchanges."

Barry chose not to capitalize on those chances, and as a result lost the fight. If he doesn’t possess that killer instict or show it soon, all of the talent in his world won’t mean much if he can’t finish fights decisively.

Jay K.

ps. I hope he comes out with a killer instinct in his next fight that knocks off his opponents head in the next one!

by JAYGK95 on Jun 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

This is precisely why I came away from the fight feeling a bit ambivalent about the result. It was great to see Cro Cop win, but I think Barry could have taken the fight if he hadn’t backed off when he knocked him down.

by cmsove on Jun 14, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think this was because

he’s no good on the ground. Better to let Crocop get up quickly before he recovers so that you can put him down again than enter a world where you have no advantage.

That’s exactly what Barry did, dropping Mirko not two minutes after he let him up the first time. Unfortunately he broke his hand in the second exchange, and was unable to repeat that strike.

by gavingavinkindgavin on Jun 14, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like any of these?

- Rich Franklin vs. Lyoto Machida, Forrest Griffin, Rampage Jackson or Lil Nog
- Rory Macdonald vs. Mike Swick
- Gilbet Yvel vs. Pat Barry
- Carlos Condit vs. Dan Hardy or John Hathaway
- Ben Rothwell vs. Frank Mir or Antonio Nogueira
- Martin Kampman vs. winner of Fitch vs. Alves
- Evan Dunham vs. loser of Penn vs. Edgar

by Nick Thomas on Jun 14, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I like

Franklin vs. Rashad for interim LHW

Rampage vs. Machida for next shot at winner of interim champion vs. shogun.

Loser Franklin/Rashad vs. loser Rampage/Machida to get back in line.

Lil’ Nog and Griffin need to fight each other before moving up the ladder.

Yvel/Barry is another MMA kickboxing match, so I’d love to see it from an entertainment point-of-view. Ultimately though, the winner would be no further ahead in the title picture.

by gavingavinkindgavin on Jun 14, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was thinking kampmann/hardy would be a fun one. martin needs another solid win before he stills messing with guys in the title picture.

by woooburn on Jun 14, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

oops. meant to say “starts” not “stills”. yikes.

by woooburn on Jun 14, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see Condit vs Hardy.. Franklin vs Forrest..

by woodson28 on Jun 14, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gilbert Yvel looked HORRIBLE

That had to be the worst fight of 2010…

… And we’re not even half-way through the season!

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Jun 14, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the end it was horrible

But how that fight started was pretty damn exciting.

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by Figs on Jun 14, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess... :-/

Two out-of-condition guys rolling all over each other for 2 out of 3 rounds made that a distant memory.

I went for a sandwich while that fight took place.

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Jun 14, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You missed out then...

It was super amusing watching Yvel attempt sweeps and reverses and such, and the ground and pound he laid out was devestating.

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by Jacob Hayes on Jun 14, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!?

After watching the fight again on computer…

… I hope you’re being sarcastic, Bears fan!

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Jun 14, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kampman’s win shouldn’t have been as much of a surprise. Kampman did what he has done in most of his recent fights. He has techinical striking, but not great power. He was faster and more accurate than Thiago, who has always been wild.

Kampman has also shown to be a better wrestler and better with positional grappling, and I’m shocked anyone thought Thiago would dominate him on the ground. This was a case of a guy who was getting overhyped coming back down to reality against a well rounded WW in Kampman.

by Hardcharger on Jun 14, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Not really. He wasn’t overly technical against Condit. He was looping and leaving himself open a bit, although a lot of that fight was on the ground. Thiago wasn’t accurate at all, and his punching was looping all over the place whereas his past two fights were far better performances. Thiago hasn’t always been wild by any means. Kosheck, yes, he was… but he was very solid against Volkmann and much straighter.

Kampmann’s positional game was solid, but maybe Thiago has been overhyped.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that Kampman’s striking defense has never been great, but he’s always thrown straight punches. Paulo has always been wild and looping. That doesn’t mean he’s never thrown a straight punch, but comparing the 2, Kampman was more technically sound, and Thiago more powerful.

Kampman isn’t overly powerful, but he’s always appeared stronger than Thiago (IMO), and that showed itself in the grappling exchanges.

by Hardcharger on Jun 14, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kampmann has thrown straight punches, I’ll agree there, but he has left himself open and looped quite a bit in some fights. But he was actually winning those exchanges.

I seriously think Thiago’s punching was great against Volkmann, but perhaps that was due to the fact that Volkmann was never a threatening puncher anyways.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 14, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with Hardcharger

Kampmann admitted after the fight that recently he was fighting a crowd pleasing style. He’s now fighting as smart as when he started in the middle weight division. This is the Kampmann we should be expecting from now on.

by KillerInstinct on Jun 14, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thiago’s technique went out the window and I think this can be attributed to Kampmann’s effective use of the jab and shorter punches. It’s amazing how effectively it took Thiago out of his game and is a real credit to Kampmann’s technique. I see this fight as Kampmann’s win more than Thiago’s loss just due to the technical merits in Kampmann’s game.

by rask4p on Jun 14, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly think that if Yves hadn’t fucked up earlier in the night he would have stopped the Yvel/Rothwell fight in the second round. Rothwell took a lot of unanswered shots. Same with the shots Barry was taking in the third round before the choke.

by simpsycho on Jun 14, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe that had Barry not broke his right hand in the first round we would have won that fight. He had almost no offense through the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

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by Warhand on Jun 14, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

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