Quote of the Day: Ken Shamrock Admits Steroid Use, Blames Fans
by Kid Nate on Jun 12, 2010 5:05 PM EDT
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"(The fans) want home runs, baby. They want people jacking them out of the park. But then when they find out about it they want to stick their heads in the sand and say, 'How bad, that was stupid, you're crazy, don't let him in the hall of fame.' It's like let's point the finger. ... Nobody wants to take responsibility, but everyone wants to see it."
Ken Shamrock talking to HDNet's Mike Straka.
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What an idiot...
Fans want to see legitimate home runs. They want to see how far athletes can push themselves without cheating. It makes a broken record that much more worthwhile.
no, honestly fans don’t care… they just don’t want to know about the steroid use.
by kanodogg on Jun 12, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
WRONG
Fans want to see the best, be the best they can be period. They want the people they are competing against to be the best they can be.
That makes for good sport. We want to see the big shot, the big KOs, and everything else exciting about sports, but we don’t want them to defraud their competitors while they do it. If Steroids were legal across the board, I wouldn’t really like it, but I’d be ok with it cause it would be a level playing field.
yeah I’m sure a few hardcores on the Internet accurately reflect your average fan
by kanodogg on Jun 13, 2010 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So it's our fault that a carnie had a hard on for over the top physiques and cartoonish personalities that was easily marketed to the kids, making promoters changes things for the worse, spiraling the whole industry into the ground.
Fuck you buddy.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
No love for Ken
I hope this doesn’t cross the line into fighter bashing but Ken Shamrock has always seemed like kind of a jerk to me.
It’s easy for him to get on camera, be all honest and start making excuses, AFTER he go busted. Ken Shamrock seriously needs to go away before he destroys what little is left of his credibility and his image.
LASIK surgery for 20/20 vision- not cheating. Steroids to help muscles recover- cheating. Pine tar, stealing signals, home run friendly parks – part of the game. HGh – Cheating!!!! Let’s not pretend that there’s something so pure and noble about sports that it’s completely destroyed by PED use.
by Ironbuddha on Jun 12, 2010 5:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
But those things you mentioned first did not break any government laws, and stealing signals isn’t illegal under the rules of baseball so its not cheating.
And regarding home run friendly parks and tightly-coiled twine in baseballs, that’s why you use something like wOBA or OPS+ to evaluate hitters rather than just pure counting stats.
by kellemonster on Jun 12, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The point is whats “cheating” and whats not is arbitrary.
Plenty of things that enhance performance are considered off limits (like blood doping for instance) can be achieved through other means (training at altitude). Why is one illegal but the other isn’t even though they do the same things?
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Jun 16, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
ya Frank has hit so many homeruns
"Your not gonna jab and shoulder roll your way away from Brock Lesnar; He is gonna fuck you." - Joe 'High as Fuck' Rogan
epic fail
"Your not gonna jab and shoulder roll your way away from Brock Lesnar; He is gonna fuck you." - Joe 'High as Fuck' Rogan
ya *Ken
epic fail on my part ><
"Your not gonna jab and shoulder roll your way away from Brock Lesnar; He is gonna fuck you." - Joe 'High as Fuck' Rogan
BWAHAHAHAHAHA My plan to make Ken Shamrock use steroids has worked perfectly! Not even “The World’s Most Dangerous Man” can withstand the amazing pressure I have put on him to hit home runs inside the Octagon or a WWE Ring!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
"The only reason I'm cryin is cuz of the adrenaline."
by Earl Montclair on Jun 12, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I apologize Ken...
as a fan, I am sorry that I have forced you to use illegal PED’s your entire career. I hope that you forgive me.
Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...
by punchdrank on Jun 12, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You Asshole!!!!
"The only reason I'm cryin is cuz of the adrenaline."
by Earl Montclair on Jun 12, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Luckily I have never been a fan of Shamrock so I accept no blame for this.
by ufc4 on Jun 12, 2010 5:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs
Not sure Ken's ever hit a home run
The only exciting fights he’s been in are the ones where he lost. Admitting it is cool, blaming it on other people – lie Ken seems to do with everything – is not.
let's not go overboard
Ken’s wins over Pat Smith (UFC 1), Dan Severn (UFC 6) and Kimo Leopoldo (UFC 8) were wonderful examples of the effectiveness of submissions. Let’s not forget the man introduced ankle locks and guillotines to the UFC.
At the same time some of his fights were the most boring godawful nightmares ever — Ken vs Royce 2, Ken vs Severn 2, Ken vs Oleg Taktarov.
Then there was his epic war with Don Frye in PRIDE. Now there’s a fight that wouldn’t have happened without PEDs and Frye is probably the one abusing them the most — ie without tons of painkillers he would’ve tapped when Ken broke both his ankles.
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Didn't he start taking painkillers
AFTER Shamrock destroyed his ankles?
Also, since when were painkillers illegal in any sport?
If you have a prescription it’s fine, but after the Shamrock fight Frye started popping them like candy.
Does not matter if you have a prescription or not if it’s on the banned substance list, in the states at least and the UK according to Leben. Trust me if I had 60mg of some sweet sweet Afghany bam bam I would still get owned in a cage don’t get me wrong but the opiates would help make it a three minute fight instead of one.
he was clearly doped to the gills
or those locks would’ve stopped him.
and preventing fighters from being on painkillers during a fight is one of the only reasons i support drug testing. too dangerous.
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Sorry Ken!
I appologize for ruining your career Ken even though i didn’t start watching MMA until 2004. Oh but i guess your career had already been through for 6 or 7 years by the time i started watching. Oh well no hard feelings. Maybe Vince will have you back, at least he can get you a steady supply.
by SteveXtreme on Jun 12, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions
Sad
When your career is finally over and you can’t let go you just lash out. Ken was a homerun hitter? Can’t remember of time when he had Barry Bond like MMA numbers
Every time I think I am through with Ken...
he finds a way to make me want to be even MORE through with him.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
by Razreshat on Jun 12, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Taking responsibility for the decisions you make shows character
Blaming other people, well, that shows character too. Thanks for confirming what we already suspected Ken. Keep it Klassy.
Ken
I think most people are apathetic. Nobody cares dude. This isn’t shocking to us. You might catch some flack from some uptight fans, but it is what it is. No need to cry about it.
I was never fan of Shamrock but he was once the best fighter in the world. IMO I’m less worried about steroids and more worried about how many of your fights were works, because you just never know.
“Worked” or “fixed” fights are a much bigger concern than illegal PEDs imo. I don’t EVER want to have that question in the back of my mind of whether or not the fight was legit.
I agree with that. Stopping the BS is the first step. But if he really wants credit then he should start naming names. That is how all the other sports got cleaned up. Weasels selling each other out. By moving onto cheer leading for steroids for all, he completely undid the credit I was ready to give him for coming clean.
Those decisions should be made by competent medical organizations. Not the fighters. HDNet should be ashamed of them selves for going to to say that every one should be able to take steroids. That was disgusting and sends the wrong message to kids.
well he did get caught first
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by Kid Nate on Jun 12, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yea after you have got caught red handed with them in your system it’s really not worth all that much to admit to it, particularly when you try to blame your use on the fans at the same time. It’s sort of like admitting you have been drinking after you failed the breathalyzer test and then blaming the bar for being open at night.
No kidding, Ken Shamrock? I'm shocked.
Next you’ll be telling me that Josh Barnett, Antonio Silva, Royce Gracie, Vitor Belfort, Hermes Franca, Kimo Leopold, Sean Sherk, Nate Marquardt, Stephan Bonnar and Tim Sylvia have used steroids at some point in their careers..
Ken Shamrock hit how many home runs?
He says fans want home runs, so he took steroids for his fights?
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A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who -- Jay-Z
I usually never say anything like this...
…but fuck Ken Shamrock. Not a fan of fighter bashing, but since he’s fan bashing, he deserves all the heat he gets.
Wa wa wa..
You should stayed with pro wrestling, Ken. You could’ve been a 30x Tag Team Champion by now instead of a burnt out has-been.
by KahilBS_Marshal on Jun 12, 2010 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
It’s pretty normal for people to be a little bit delusional. My nephew was messing around on the metro and got his arm caught in the train and tried to state his case that it was the train’s fault. He was being sincere, he didn’t want to fess up to being an idiot.
Ken’s delusion is damned near worse than a parody. It’s like someone standing there trying to tell you that the sky isn’t blue, and the sun only comes up a couple times a month. He sees people cheering for people he knows are users, and faults them for doing so, not considering the fact that they don’t know whether or not they’re cheering for them. The guy needs therapy in a really big way. He walks around thinking he’s mr clever. In reality, the guy is a neurotic basketcase that is 100% miserable. Guaranteed.
"Nobody wants to take responsibility but everyone wants to see it"
How about you take responsibility Shamrock and stop blaming everyone else. You ####’d up, not us!
by SmittytheCutman on Jun 13, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions
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