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UFC 115 Preview: Aged Legends Chuck Liddell, Rich Franklin Clash in Main Event Showdown

Franklin_liddell_medium In the main event at UFC 115, mixed martial arts legend Chuck Liddell (21-7, 17-6 UFC) will step back into the Octagon after a fourteen-month layoff following his knockout loss to current UFC light heavyweight champion Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. Tito Ortiz was his previously scheduled opponent, but he was forced to withdraw from the fight due to a nagging neck injury. Not only did Dana White fire Ortiz from his coaching role on The Ultimate Fighter season eleven, but he brought in well-known UFC veteran Rich Franklin (26-5-0-1, 12-4 UFC) to replace Ortiz in the UFC 115 main event.

Interestingly enough, both fighters have been under scrutiny from fans and media that the end of their careers may be near or has passed. Liddell was dropped by Rashad Evans, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua in three of his last five fights, and Liddell only won one of his last five -- an unanimous decision to Wanderlei Silva.

Franklin isn't exactly in the same boat, but talk of his age catching up with him has gained a louder voice from fans. His pair of losses to current UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva and the quick knockout blow that Vitor Belfort delivered at UFC 103 have sparked some scrutiny that Franklin may be weak-chinned. It's nowhere near the evidence that suggests Liddell is well past his prime, but it's certainly enough for fans to talk down Rich as a legitimate competitor in the upper-echelon of the light heavyweight division.

In my mind, Rich Franklin is the perfect high-profile name for Chuck Liddell to take advantage of and get back in the win column. Franklin is well-known for being one of the more well-rounded fighters in the UFC. He has good combinations of the feet, likes to mix in leg and body kicks, can be a menace from top control, and has the Brazilian jiu-jitsu acumen to escape bad positions or submissions on the ground. From a cursory glance, it sounds like Franklin has this in the bag, right?

One of the big problems for Franklin is that his well-roundedness becomes rather limited to one area of his skill-set when power is involved. Anderson Silva combined dynamic striking and power into his attacks, and Belfort's power basically caused Rich to wade into strikes with an uncertainty until he was clipped and put down for the count. Power seems to be something that makes Rich Franklin wilt, and Liddell, for as past his prime as he is, still produces knockout power.

Unfortunately for Chuck, Franklin's ability to attack from range is going to be a problem. Think Keith Jardine for a minute. Franklin has the kicking ability to be a real threat to Chuck's lower body, and if he can damage Liddell's base -- some of that power that Franklin will want to avoid will be gone.

But that's really the only way I see Franklin busting up Liddell and taking advantage. It's tough to see how Chuck's chin will come into play in this fight. He's had a long layoff, seems to be in better shape than he's ever been in before, and will threaten Franklin's chin in this fight. The question is whether a clipping of Liddell's chin will send him crashing to the canvas in spectacular fashion.

The unpredictability factor is very high in this fight, especially for Chuck Liddell. The light switch could be flipped off at any moment in a stand-up war, but I also think Liddell has the power and advantages on the feet that Franklin doesn't seem to possess. Unbelievably, I'm going to go with Chuck Liddell in this fight. I think Franklin will maintain range and point on Chuck consistently while trying to stay away from his power, but Liddell will eventually clobber him with an overhand. 

With a victory, Chuck will probably exclaim that he wants a shot at the title to which we'll all laugh. Chuck should probably bang out someone like Mark Coleman, yeah... bring him back, and I'm sure the UFC will find a way to create the Liddell-Ortiz fight down the road as well. Those seem like the most sensible fights for a guy the UFC can't allow to go to another organization, but won't give up fighting. 

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Who will win the UFC 115 main event between Chuck Liddell and Rich Franklin?
Chuck Liddell
675 votes
Rich Franklin
685 votes

1360 votes | Poll has closed

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Aged legends…. wah wah wah

Behave with confidence

by Postpubescent on Jun 12, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I like that he used “aged” and not “aging”.

by ufc4 on Jun 12, 2010 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The second and fifth oldest light heavyweights in the top 25.

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by Richard Wade on Jun 12, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chuck baby... Just Chuck.

Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...

by punchdrank on Jun 12, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Chuck is going to surprise a lot of folks tonight.

Maybe we’ll see a ground game? He should retire after he beats Rich. But we know he won’t.

Yoplait....Fruit on the bottom,hope on top.

by Skoobs on Jun 12, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

" He should retire after he beats Rich. But we know he won’t."

Agreed, I don’t think he’ll beat Rich either.

by ufc4 on Jun 12, 2010 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

you gonna be eating them words.

by kanodogg on Jun 12, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alot of ppl will be eating their words after tonight...

Chuck is going to lights out Franklin Fo Sho…

Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...

by punchdrank on Jun 12, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to break it to you guys but Chuck doesn’t have that great KO power anymore. This isn’t new info, I figured it out two years ago when he couldn’t finish Wandy.

by ufc4 on Jun 12, 2010 3:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

But Wandy has a chin made out of granite and iron!

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by Bandaka on Jun 12, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am looking forward to chatting with you after the fight...

If I am wrong then I will serve my own crow on here. Would you be down for a sig bet?

Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...

by punchdrank on Jun 12, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't think so... ;)

Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...

by punchdrank on Jun 12, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure I’m down (sorry I meant to check back on this post earlier). So when I win your new sig is “The Iceman has officially melted”. Let me know what u want for me.

by ufc4 on Jun 12, 2010 6:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sounds good. Your’s will be “Punchdrank is wise beyond his years.”. A week should be find.. Good luck to you sir!

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by punchdrank on Jun 12, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks you too.

by ufc4 on Jun 12, 2010 7:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You win damnit!

I am changing my sig now… :)

Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...

by punchdrank on Jun 13, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you are getting speed and power mixed up… It is a fact that the last facet that a professional fighter loses with age is power. He may have lost some speed and agility, but he is far from the stage in life where a power puncher loses their power.

Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...

by punchdrank on Jun 12, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speed is a part of power, the faster the punch is coming the harder it’s gonna hit. If somebody was just standing there in front of him in a stationary position sure he could knock them out but a moving target is a bit harder, and Franklin has pretty decent footwork.

by ufc4 on Jun 12, 2010 6:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rich is the type of fighter Chuck should beat if he’s indeed rededicated himself. If he doesn’t, he’s done for sure.

Yoplait....Fruit on the bottom,hope on top.

by Skoobs on Jun 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know who to choose?

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by 49er16 on Jun 12, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's the current results after my vote for Franklin

Who will win the UFC 115 main event between Chuck Liddell and Rich Franklin?
49%
Chuck Liddell
310 votes
50%
Rich Franklin
318 votes

628 votes

Where’s the last 1% at? Weird..

by Horselover Fat on Jun 12, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

pretty simple

With those stats Rich is at about 50.64%.

Chuck is at about 49.36%.

They just truncated instead of rounding up or down.

by Electro Boy on Jun 12, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he’s got you there.

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by Richard Wade on Jun 12, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just want a bitchin-ass fight

If this fight = tits then both guys win. See: Nog/Couture, my favorite fight from last year

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by Anthony Pace on Jun 12, 2010 2:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Wow

I’m shocked the poll is this close! What has Rich done lately that has made so many people sleep on him? I can’t think of a fighter who’s had a tougher string of opponents than he has lately, and other than Vitor, he hasn’t look bad.

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by Noah'sArk on Jun 12, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

On paper I think Ace FTW by SD, not because Chuck is declining, but because Franklin is the more technical striker + he has the reach advantage (i think). And you know this isn’t going to hit the ground, it will likely play out as an ultimate kickboxing match. But then again you never know whats going to happen.

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by Bandaka on Jun 12, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I think, win or lose, Chuck should retire. At least from the UFC. His relevancy has come and gone, and now he is just eating up PPV space. He is a legend, but he is beginning to tarnish that by hanging on by his fingernails.

by Combat Vette on Jun 12, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

and Belfort’s power basically caused Rich to wade into strikes with an uncertainty until he was clipped and put down for the count.

Vitor’s power had nothing to do with it, it was his speed that gave Rich problem’s also considering that the shot that clipped him was no where near his chin this talk of him being easy to KO is ridiculous.

Rich is still in his prime, he’s only lost to top fighters in his career and he looks great at 205 and I won’t be surprised if he makes a run at the belt because of his overall skill set.

Chuck sadly I think this is his last hurrah, all i’mhoping is that he can put on a good fight and hasn’t lost his chin completelly like I think he has.

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cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Jun 12, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Rich talked about in pre-fight that Vitor has shown power. Speed obviously is a helluva deliver point to land power, so the combination of the two really hurt Rich.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 12, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

617 to 615 this has to be one of the closest polls ever.

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by RolloTomasi on Jun 12, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

And right now it’s still 2 off… 655-657.

by cmsove on Jun 12, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if more people were voting with their head instead of their heart it wouldn’t be as close.

by ufc4 on Jun 12, 2010 7:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

9 votes

It’s interesting that so many analysts have chosen Liddell why fans are almost. His last two opponents had that big overhand right of his timed perfectly and puts his out. Franklin is going to do the same.

by KahilBS_Marshal on Jun 12, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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