Chael Sonnen Goes Overboard at UFC 115 Weigh Ins, Lies About Twitter Account
by Kid Nate on Jun 11, 2010 10:35 PM EDT
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Kevin Iole reports from tonight's press conference:
Asked about how the fight would go, Sonnen said he had some ideas but wasn't sure. "I can only attempt to speculate," he said of how Silva would attack him. "He has a black belt from the Nogueira brothers, but to me, a black belt from the Nogueira brothers is like a free toy in a Happy Meal. One [of the Nogueira brothers] is a punching bag. The other, I just ignore."
He had been making similar attacks about Silva and Soares on Twitter, but said on stage Friday that he does not have a Twitter account. However, he told Yahoo! Sports in February that he did, as he also does at the 45:40 mark of a video interview with reporter Ariel Helwani.
This begs the question, why would Sonnen bother lying about a Twitter account? Because it's causing him trouble in his campaign for political office. From Huffington Post:
Sonnen has become famous in the Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) world through a twitter account that has been making increasingly outrageous and sometimes racist statements. On twitter.com/sonnench there are memorable tweets such as: "I'm a gangster from Oregon"... "Anderson, [Chael Sonnen's next MMA opponent] you are going to be on your back more than a pornstar with a mortgage"... and what I find most offensive "Ed [a Brazilian American MMA manager], pray to whatever Demon effigy you prance and dance in front of with your piglet tribe of savages that I decide not to CRUCIFY you."
I see this last tweet as racist and xenophobic and was wondering how a candidate of a major party for the State Legislature was getting away with this. So I reached out to some Oregon press asking them why they haven't challenged this candidate on this type of talk. A reporter I emailed said he would take up the story. A couple of days ago he emailed me and said that Sonnen denied that he ever made the statements and that the twitter account is a fake one.
Ben Fowlkes went to the trouble to utterly depants Sonnen's claims that it's not his Twitter account:
Sonnen did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the Twitter account, but at the very least the UFC seems to be under the impression that it's his account, as @sonnench appears right between @ChuckLiddell and @SugaRashadEvans on the UFC's Twitter follow list.
What's more, an account claiming to be the "Official Campaign Twitter" of Sonnen (Twitter.com/VoteSonnen) is following only one other Twitter user, and you can probably guess which one (hint: it's not the Iron Sheik).
That tends to make one think that either this alleged online impersonator has been very busy creating and then barely maintaining Twitter accounts, or else he's so good that he even fooled Sonnen's campaign.
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That's one question that springs to mind. Another is, if you were going to create a fake Twitter account for someone, and if that account quickly gained almost 6,000 followers, wouldn't you do more with it? Maybe I don't completely understand the mind of someone who would create a fake Twitter in the first place, but it seems like it's hardly worth the trouble for ten tweets in six months, especially if two of them link to Sonnen's actual campaign website.
Sonnen's trash talking has certainly generated a great deal of attention for him, but in my opinion he's crossed the line when he's disrespecting the Nogueira brothers and lying about his Twitter account. I for one will be rooting for Anderson Silva to actually try against Sonnen, because if he does, that should make for an entertaining and richly deserved beat down.
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Can't wait forthis clown to get KTFO'ed
At first I was neutral, but his attacks of the nog brothers and machida are completely uncalled for.
I actually like Sonnen even more for this bi-polar nutty behavior...
I think that he should start insulting everybody from the president to the cast of the show Yo Gabba Gabba… The nuttier that dude gets, the more that I like him.
Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...
I see what your're saying
BUT a lot of this is just completely useless and irrelevant to the fight. I find it interesting how hes at a point where he has insulted folks associated with Anderson more than Anderson.
I guess
I can see what your saying, but he won’t even man up and admit to what he’s said.
That’s not ‘nutty’ that’s pussy.
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
I wouldn't...
really categorize anything that Sonnen says or does as being “pussy”. Aside from denying the twitter account, he has been very vocal during live interviews about hating on everybody and talking shit on everybody. He has said nuttier shit during those live interviews than was said during those twitter accounts.
Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...
Huffington Post
I just have an issue with the Huffington Post. It’s a known lib rag that’s had plenty of controversy surrounding it in the past. Lots of people have downloaded hit pieces onto the site and the old dried up hag that has an unpronounceable maiden name (now she’s divorced) enjoys allowing conservatives to be skewered at any time possible. While she eventually likes to distance herself from the comments section, they’re rarely deleted if they are nasty enough toward a conservative. The story may be true but just the Huffandpuff post as a source smells fishy to me. Even if it a s—t talking dude that normally does a bit of s—t talking.
Anderson Silva post UFC 117:
“Where is your twitter now, PLAYBOY?”
by jesuslovesyoumma on Jun 12, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I stopped being neutral when his comments crossed lines...
I am glad that someone held him to the fire on that. Pretty much every MMA site stood by and watched.
All this and a bold faced lie as well
Perhaps Chael, you were not meant for the spotlight.
Is it possible that he is also just a little bordeline-y? I’m starting to think he isn’t just going too far with trash talk, but that maybe he is not the most mentally healthy person.
If Silva shuts Sonnen up
and does it decisively, I will never complain about the Maia fight again. Ever. I’ll even compliment his dance moves.
"We don't need no water, let the Badr Hari burn!" - Michael Schiavello
by Jackie Maden on Jun 11, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Too bad they don't allow soccer kicks anymore
Because Sonnen would get rolled into the shape of a ball and then get kicked around by Anderson. The referee would allow that because the referee would be Dan Miragliotta.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
by SSreporters on Jun 11, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And if Sonnen comes to fight and shocks us with something...
will the respect then flow>>>
by Jonnycaz2.0 on Jun 12, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Prolly not, people hate Sonnen.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
by RolloTomasi on Jun 12, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And a TON of ppl love him… There are definately no in betweeners with this cat.
Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...
honestly this guys a genius
hes a boring fighter who honestly nobody cared about before he beat marquadt
his style is the exact same as jon fitchs except with more lay and prey, he hasnt finished somebody since 2007 and it was kyacey uscola from TUF 11 fame
that being said though who here is gonna watch this fight and care? i certainly am gonna cause he got me interested with his ridiculous comments and decent trash talking ability
good for u chael, fighters attempting to make themselves appear relevant should be taking notes
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
by milk72 on Jun 12, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
EXACTLY
Sonnen understands the game behind the game and is playing it very well…he must have some points from the PPV.
by BigDNotDallas on Jun 12, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I was at the Q & A and probably 95% of that crowd was with him. The people who mentioned Silva winning got booed.
by HarmlessNinja on Jun 13, 2010 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I love this. Too much fun to watch chael self destruct in a very public manner leading up to an utter deconstruction at the hands of the baddest man on the planet.
Keep going Chael! Yer trash talk is awesome.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
Have you accepted BROCKLESNARRRRRR!!!!!!! as your personal Heavyweight Champion?
I'll gladly pray to the referenced "Demon effigy"...
if it promises to have Anderson fight with a purpose and destroy Chael in an epic manner.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
Sonnen wins either way..........
You’ll be paying to see him get KTFO, while he laughs all the way to the bank.
by MMAGuard on Jun 11, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Yea but hopefully that will be his last paycheck
by ChuteLegend on Jun 11, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Not wishing death
I guess last paycheck with the ufc would have been more ideal, my b’s
"while he laughs all the way to the bank."
which is only a stop on the way to pay for a lifetime of medical bills due to deadly Spider bites. Just as Rich Franklin what being on the receiving end of an ass kicking from Anderson Fucking Silva does to your health.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
Oh God... Here goes the Anderson worship again...
war silva worship wagon!
Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...
Don't get your panties in a bunch...
over some fun internet blog comment section hyperbole…that just happens to be grounded in fact. ;-)
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
More power to ya...
but they make a selection of beads and plugs for that sort of action now days, or so I’m told.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
Ah thanks...
so the score is Me:1
the rest of the internet: Eleventy Billion!
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
At least you're on the scoreboard
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
And then he immediately laughs his way out of relevance and out of his chance at public office.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
by Neil Manich on Jun 11, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t really see your point, he’s gonna get paid the same whether nobody watches it or a billion people watch it.
by ufc4 on Jun 11, 2010 11:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I highly doubt Sonnen gets a cut of the PPV revenue
And there’s no “of the night” award for getting your ass handed to you.
I thought about this when he made the "demon effigy" comment....
I knew his political opponents would be all over that as “racist.” Maybe I should join the Sonnen® political team?
Racist comments or not,
fake twitter account or not,
cheesy trashtalk or not,
Sonnen is doing a GREAT job on keeping people interested in seeing him fight Anderson Silva. (which is also crucial because of Silva’s last performance)
As true as that is, and it’s good for Chael, he’s doing a lot of long term damage as well. When it starts to hurt your life outside of MMA, like it is his political campaign, that’s not worth it at all.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jun 11, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
true,
but that is why he’s starting damage control by denying it’s his. haha… I hope his political career doesn’t get hurt by this though, he’s a pretty smart man, and he’s obviously saying the most shit he could come up with in hopes of hyping up the fight…. I wouldn’t take his statements too seriously. and these people being all hurt about it should learn to see through all of Sonnen’s layers of crap, and see what Chael is obviously trying to do…ruffle some feathers.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 11, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, I take everything said in fight promotion with a grain of salt. And damage control is good, but obvious lies will not help. Especially with as much coverage him getting busted will get on MMA blogs, what the media might have let slip, will now be one “Chael Sonnen MMA” search away.
I’d just come forward and tell everyone “Hey, I got carried away trying to hype a fight, which is of a great deal of importance (explain PPV sales, and A. Silva’s last fight), and hey, bullshitting is also a key role of a politician…so…it’s just practice!”
Maybe not that last part, but anything is better than getting caught up in an obvious lie. Now all he can do is play ignorant and say he misunderstood the differences between facebook, twitter, myspace, etc. and thought he had a twitter, but didn’t.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jun 12, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this has become standard for Anton
As soon as any fighter makes inappropriate and/or offensive remarks you jump in, telling people to lighten up and asking them to realize the speaker is “just trying to ruffle feathers”. What makes you think we don’t realize what the speaker is doing? Where you’re mistaken is where you assume that makes it OK. It’s not OK to make racist/homophobic/sexist comments “just to ruffle feathers”. And it’s not a matter of “lightening up” either. Enjoying sexist jokes or celebrating racism is not an indicator of having a good sense of humor. When inappropriate comments are by made by a public figure, especially someone who reflects the reputation of the sport, our role is to condemn those remarks, pure and simple. To make excuses, or to go further and celebrate the fighter who are brave enough enough to make offensive comments on Twitter (like that takes a lot of guts!) is shameful, frankly.
The Nogueira disrespect is too much. I met and rolled with the brothers at a seminar and they a couple of the most genuine, likable guys you’ll ever meet. His prior “trash talk” was idiotic, but now I actually dislike the guy. But this isn’t a Koscheck-like dislike… I’m not going to watch his fights hoping to see him get KTFO. I’ve moved into ambivalence. F’ Sonnen.
by cmsove on Jun 11, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I was wondering about his campaign. How he could get away with this kind of stuff while running for office was baffling to me. On the other hand why are people so bothered about what he says, I don’t see how anything he said is over the line, I love Chael’s trash talk its like one of those movies that is so bad its good.
the pygmy comment
is the sort of thing that european colonialists said as they set about conquering, enslaving and robbing all over the planet. In many countries people are still very very bitter about that stuff. Brazil is one of those countries.
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by Kid Nate on Jun 11, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Gotta respectfully disagree with you guys
Referencing colonisation and crucifixion doesn’t mean you’re a racist. Brazilians have every right to be bitter but that doesn’t mean Chael (or anyone else) should have to censor themselves
B-A-K-A-S-U-R-V-I-V-O-R
he didn't "reference colonisation and crucifixion"
he engaged in racist name calling and threats.
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He can say what he wants - and we can hear that he making racist baiting comments
next up will be lynching “jokes”
Do none of you ppl know anything about how republicans vote?
for the most part, republicans are old school and love guys like him! He is pseudo conservative with a racist aftertone. He is exactly what your standard republican will stand behind and vote for. Trust me, my parents are old school religious fundamental republicans would LOVE him.
Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...
He ran unopposed in the primary. Now his democratic opponent will capitalize on these blunders. I dont know his district but i doubt it leans republican givin it’s proximity to portland.
Yep this isn’t about him getting the “old school religious fundamental Republican” votes it’s about the general election in Oregon’s 37th district. Fundamental Republicans will probably vote for him if he shows up to fight Andserson Silva in black face and a afro wig (of course they may also shun him just based on the fact that he is a MMA fighter and apparantly God doesn’t like MMA), but just getting the hardcore Republican vote won’t win him this election. The question will be how his antics go over with undecided voters and independants not how he holds onto his political base.
"apparantly God doesn’t like MMA"
But, but, but….Jesus didn’t tap!
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Are you on crack?
To use generalizations like that shows your ignorance.
punchdrank - you need 51% of the vote
the solid Republicans and solid Democrats only get you 20-40% (depending on what district) – you need to get centrists and independant voters to win.
he may still win, but he’s hurting himself with the swing voters with this kind of racist taunting.
Chael Sonnen seems to have trolled himself
I don’t foresee him winning the belt or the election, but either way it’s been quite entertaining.
Kind of weak lying about his twitter account, Come on Chael if you are going to say soemthing at least be man enuff to admit it now and don’t hide behind a total lie like that now. On the other hand he’s not 100% off on BIG NOG becoming a punching bag now. He oes take way way to much damage. So the Nog brother comments don’t really bother that much at all. And I really don’t see how the tweet I’m a gangster from Oregon is raciest at all ? The piglet tribe of savages cooment now is border line but still its all on how one interprets the comments. What really gets me I did not see 1/100 the outrage buy MMA fans when someone actually did make racist remarks to another fight only 2 weeks ago, That being Rashad and what he said about Rampage. Hardly anyone made mention of that now .
What Rashad said about Rampage
was NOT racist.
Somehow we’ve conflated making critical commentary about racial politics with racism.
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Go research the word “Sambo” and explain how calling a black man “Sambo” is not racist?
by pwrcartel on Jun 12, 2010 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
not only did he call him a sambo he also called him a uncle tom ! If someone thinks neather of those 2 words are racist you must not know much about history or racial slurs now ?
That's not racism guys
Damn, do you guys even know what “racist” means?
“Sambo” and “Uncle Tom” are not racist terms, just demeaning.
Who is the last white person Rashad called Sambo? When the demeaning term you choose has extra derrogatory meaning to one race vs. another then we have a “racial slur”. Sorry but to label Rashad’s comments not racist and Cheal’s blatantly racist is hypocricy.
by pwrcartel on Jun 12, 2010 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you really not understand the difference?
Rashad was accusing Rampage of acting similarly to how black minstrel performers used to act to please racist whites. Note also that Rashad is black, and was saying that Rampage echoing those performances reflects badly on black people in general.
Chael, on the other hand, basically called a group of people of mixed racial heritage a bunch of savages.
See the difference?
No,? Well, let me say it real slowly: Rashad is calling Rampage out for acting in a racially insulting manner, while Chael is calling people racially insulting things.
You don’t have to agree with what Rashad said about Rampage, but to call it “racist” is patently ridiculous.
If you fight, you fight. If you hope, you hope.
by Sabate on Jun 12, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Uncle Tom is not a racist term for the follwoing reason
If a black man calls another black an Uncle Tom it is offensive
If a person of any other race calls a black man an Uncle Tom its just fucking confusing.
Uncle Tom is a racial term but it is not a racist term, I guess most people have been trained not to be able to decipher between the two.
Try this, walk up to the next black man you see and say, “Hey Sambo, would you find it more offensive if I called you a piglet savage or an uncle Tom?” and tell me how it works out for you.
These terms are meant to insult and use something the insultee can’t change; their race. Insulting someone by using their race is…. wait for it… racist.
While don’t find using the term “piglet savage” to be pleasant, the claim was that it is a racist statement but calling someone “Sambo” is not. That is the standard being measured. You want to defend “Sambo” and “Uncle Tom” then you have to defend “piglet savages”. Referring to someone’s race as a way to insult them is being racist.
Maybe it's me
But disrespecting the Nogueira’s like that and their skills is simply insulting. I did write an article earlier on how BJJ belt promotions in MMA are a bit premature but the Nog’s are legit black belts and their pupils are legit belts. I’m sure they don’t just hand them out on the side of the road. As for Chael himself, he doesn’t exactly have a stellar record facing BJJ guys so I wouldn’t mind one bit to see Chael subbed by Andy just to see what he writes next on his twitter.
by dreamers_12345 on Jun 11, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
he like The UFC Jackie Moon....
Jus for veiws he’ll wrestle bear.lol, Anderson is goin to hurt him bad… I dont think the trash talk is a good idea. I jus see anderson training jus a little harder to really hurt him! Cant wait…
fedor vs silva?
You dont have to like me.. but you WILL respect my opinion! Jon Jones Cannot be Stopped! and neither can Anderson SIlva! Cain or Dos Santos??
by Mal_FLoe on Jun 11, 2010 11:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
What is he gonna do when Silva breaks him
in the first round, punishes him in the second, then spends the remainder of the fight dancing around calling him a playboy.
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jun 11, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
NOT A CHANCE IT HAPPENS LIKE THAT...
I will qualify this by saying I can’t stand the sort of stupid sh!t he is pulling, but that doesn’t change the reality of how the fight will go.
Sonnen’s functional (mma-centric) wrestling is good enough to take Anderson down repeatedly, even good enough to keep him down for long stretches, but not good enough to finish him. He will, however, remove the illusion of invincibility that has surrounded Silva for some time, and show how a better functional wrestler could defeat him.
The current generation of elite MT / BJJ fighters that have had so much success for the last several years will be overtaken by the elite functional wrestlers. They are already dominant at WW and HW, and you can see them coming at LHW, although there are no elite functional wrestlers on the immediate horizon at MW.
by BigDNotDallas on Jun 12, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
There are plenty of wrestlers at 185
they’re just not that good. Matt Lindland was the best wrestler at 185 for years and didn’t even fight in the UFC. Chael Sonnen didn’t either until the WEC’s MW division folded. He wasn’t that good. Look at his record before the UFC. The other thing, the UFC’s MW division has a handful of world class jiu jitsu players, if I was a wrestler I wouldn’t want to fight there either.
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jun 13, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad I never got the Sonnen bandwagon.
That thing is goin down faster than Chandella in a beauty pageant
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
by Anthony Pace on Jun 11, 2010 11:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 4 recs
I don't take his comments to heart
But I’m concerned that his heart won’t function properly after Anderson is done with him.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
by SSreporters on Jun 11, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Temple of Doom pic? Anyone?
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
by Anthony Pace on Jun 11, 2010 11:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
YUS
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
by Anthony Pace on Jun 11, 2010 11:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Who the hell is he kidding though he is no match for Silva
Silva will beat him like a red headed step child. He’s got no chance
"Who Wants some pudding pops?, delicious and nutritious!
He is acting exactly like he portrays Silva
"Who Wants some pudding pops?, delicious and nutritious!
Meh. This was more of a stand-up comedy routine than anything else but idc, really. And as much as I like the Nogs, Big Nog is sort of a punching bag and if I’m not mistaken is known for handing out black belts rather easily. But I just want Silva to lose. By the way, it doesn’t matter how “mad” Silva is, it’s not gonna help him from being thrown to the canvas like a child and held there for 5 rounds. Only way I see Silva winning is by triangle choke.
I’m not sure how Sonnen didn’t foresee all these comments backfiring on his political ambitions, though. It doesn’t seem he’s taking the election very seriously, or maybe he thought that the MMA sphere existed completely separate from the real world and no one would ever hear these things or care?
to who?
Who have the Nogueria brothers handed out BJJ Black Belts easily too?
I think there is this idea in mma now that if you dont use your BJJ you dont deserve your Black Belt and so now all of a sudden people are trying to say Anderson, Shogun, Machida, Aldo, and many others are not true BJJ Black Belts just because recently they’ve stayed on the feet and dominated there.
by bigdmmafan on Jun 11, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure what you’re talking about you pretty much just set up a strawman argument there. I said nothing about “not using” the ground game as evidence that it doesn’t exist. Anyway, I don’t know/care really about Nog’s blackbelt, I just had a vague recollection of Nog giving an iffy black belt to someone after a relatively short period, By the way, if you are going to go by the times we have seen Silva on the ground he’s never been particularly impressive (i.e. Lutter, Henderson, Marquardt, Leites). It seems like his biggest move on the ground is to do a body triangle from the bottom, which is just him trying to stall and force a standup.
Hmmm....
I’m pretty sure he subbed Hendo (an olympic wrestler), subbed Lutter (the micheal jordan of BJJ! LOL), and avoided Leites’ weak attempts of coaxing Anderson to follow him while he flopped and butt scoot’d till the fight ended.
and I get when you say he got in a few trouble with Hendo and Lutter (even if he subbed both of them), but Leites? Really?
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 12, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Leites got a takedown early, SIlva showed no offense, indicating that he probably does not believe himself capable of competing with an actually high-level black belt, only stalling him out. Not that I hold that against him but talking about pure grappling all he did was try to stall. As for Lutter, an out of shape Lutter easily mounted him and easily could have finished him. He never even submitted lutter it was a submission to strikes. Hendo was basically unconscious when Silva subbed him and it could just have easily been a tko if Silva had punched him instead of taking his back.
Leites got a takedown early, SIlva showed no offense, indicating that he probably does not believe himself capable of competing with an actually high-level black belt, only stalling him out.
cause he didn’t want to stay in the only part where Leites had a remote chance of winning? Poor Silva, for having common sense not to go into unnecessary risks just to prove his black belt is “legit”.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 12, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that I hold that against him but talking about pure grappling all he did was try to stall
Didn’t say he should have. But he never really threatened Marq or Hendo or Leites wi from the bottom, either. What I’ve been saying is maybe Silva doesn’t have such fantastic offensive capabilities off his back which everyone gives him de facto credit for. Lord knows he’ll need ’em against Sonnen.
Since when was Chael Sonnen this unstoppable wrestling machine?
He has been submitted 8 times and the fighters he has beaten are nowhere remotely close to Anderson Silva. The only chance he has of winning is to stop him and the last time he finished someone was fricking Uscola in a Portland organization. He has little knockout power and Anderson isn’t someone you can just takedown at will.
You are overrating Chael Sonnen vastly and you have not provided one significant piece of evidence that Silva could get wrestled to death. He handled Hendo, Lutter, Maia, and Leites (granted Leites had no Plan B when the BJJ didn’t work)….all great-to-elite level wrestlers and/or BJJ practitioner.
To top it all off Sonnen has been submitted 8 times.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
Only Hendo has a wrestling background of that list and he was able to LnP for a round, in the 2nd round he gassed and exchanged and got caught. Sonnen has great cardio and won’t try to exchange. If Anderson isn’t competetive with Sonnen in the wrestling department he is going to lose this fight, imo. We’ll see how his TD has improved since Hendo, I guess.
Make sure to smoke some weed before, otherwise you wont see Hendo gassed.
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Jun 12, 2010 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions
*gassed Hendo (god damn it)
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Jun 12, 2010 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Gassing...
in the sense that he was having trouble breathing with Anderson’s arms around his throat.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
No you'd need to ingest it.
Smoking marijuana rarely causes hallucinations :P
If you fight, you fight. If you hope, you hope.
He could've easily finished him with one of the worst armbars attempts ever, right?
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
Yeah I was going to bring that lame ass arm bar attempt up.. I can’t remember Lutter even coming close to finishing Silva at all. People make a big deal out of Silva being mounted. Shit happens. What he did do was get out of the mount and elbow Lutter until he quit.
I don’t even want to start with those trolling comments about Henderson.
by sadface on Jun 12, 2010 2:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You call someone's counter argument a Strawman...
but can only manage to claim “a vague recollection” to support your own position…WOW! Quit while you are only miserably behind with no chance to catch up, let alone win the argument.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
because it was a straw man argument. He tried to argue against something I wasn’t even arguing (that not showing ur ground game is evidence of not having a ground game). And I never made wanted this to be an argument, as I said I don’t really know/care about Nog’s standards for awarding blackbelts.
"as I said I don’t really know/care about Nog’s standards for awarding blackbelts."
Then don’t fucking comment on it in the first fucking place…especially since you can’t “remember” any evidence for your statement.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
How about you chill out? Perhaps someone else would have more specific info to back up the claim? Or to refute it? Or perhaps something would come up about a particular fighter he awarded it to that would spark my memory?
So its someone else's responsibility...
to make the case for your outlandish claim? Someone else needs to find the evidence to support your ridiculous allegation. Someone else needs to find a fact to spark your memeory…seriously?
Here is a thought, know what you are talking about before you comment, or CHOOSE NOT TO COMMENT. Do a bit of research, you have the whole internet at your disposal.
I actually don’t care that you said something stupid, everyone does, but the fact that you can’t see it for the stupid comment that it was is just mind boggling.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
the fact that you care so much is mind boggling. No one had a “responsibility,” I actually thought it was common knowledge. Regardless, it is common knowledge that different masters have greatly differing standards for awarding blackbelts, and I still think the Nogs give relatively easy blackbelts. For example, Anderson was awarded his for giving BBs trouble in practice although he hadn’t competed in BJJ tourneys, going through the gi/no gi grappling competetions. I tried googling Nogueira blackbelts to see who he has awarded them to but couldn’t find it.
So chill out. Not the end of the world…and your reaction was far more inappropriate than one off-handed comment.
It if was "common knowledge"...
then you shouldn’t have such trouble backing it up.
Again, know what you are talking about and be able to back it up before making some claim, ESPECIALLY a disparaging remark about someone.
“your reaction was far more inappropriate than one off-handed comment.” The fact that you think that claim was some “off-handed comment” says alot and you simply should stick to the less-is-more philosophy when it comes to comments.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
Wow Razreshat, calm down man. Yes the comment was lacking a sound evidence base but there’s really no need for that sort of reaction; completely OTT.
“Then don’t fucking comment on it in the first fucking place” – what the hell was the need to phrase it like that?!?
B-A-K-A-S-U-R-V-I-V-O-R
The Fbombs were maing for my own entertainment....
and to bring emphasis to the stupidity of the comment he/she made.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
You're trolling, man.
Silva was competing in BJJ tournaments. If you would at least try, you would find video of him competing at 2008 World BJJ Championships.
You have no facts to back up your delusional claims. Wipe the venom off your lips and do proper research.
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Jun 12, 2010 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions
The practice of giving evidence to support arguments...
…isn’t taught in US schools anymore, and it certainly isn’t modeled in US media. We’re too concerned about standardized test scores to be bothered with teaching the very basis of both civil debate and scientific inquiry.
If you fight, you fight. If you hope, you hope.
Maybe not at your school, mine did. It’s called debate, and political science. Not all school districs are the same. Alabama brings the whole nations’ scores down.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
Debate and political science..
..are very rarely required courses in most high schools. And they certainly aren’t emphasized in the standards backed by the Bush or Obama Departments of Education.
Moreover, you be waiting until high school to learn one of the most essential cognitive and discursive practices to life in modern democratic society.
If you fight, you fight. If you hope, you hope.
Why do you have to wait untill high school?
Librarys are located all over the country, it’s on the student not the government to learn. Too many people rely on an ureliable government to hold their hand through life.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
I didnt mean you but I’ve heard a lot of people lately saying how a guy like Shogun isnt a true BJJ Black Belt because he only has 1 submission victory.
If he is “known for giving out BJJ Black Belts rather easily” (your words) give me an example. Give me a name.If the Nogueria brothers are “known for giving out black belts” why are guys in their camp like Mark Muonoz or JDS only purple belts.
I just think it’s a bad argument and if you or anyone else can list examples I’ll listen but somebody like Anderson Silva I dont think is a good argument.
I used to think Sonnen's comments were pretty funny
but his more recent ones have been pretty lame (if it’s even him).
I don’t know how I feel about the fight in terms of who to root for.
by I Can't Feel My Face on Jun 11, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions
"(if it’s even him)."
Honestly, its a bit late for him to try and claim its not his account, he should have been doing that earlier when all of these comments started coming out.
Which makes it especially ironic with what he has said in the past about Anderson being fake with fans and media.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
Video of his verbal nonsense at the Weigh-in Q&A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-fI7GGX8nM
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
by Damon O. on Jun 11, 2010 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ha! that video made me laugh.
…I don’t care what you guys think. I like Chael, and I think he’s funny… Sure he says some offensive and sometimes very inappropriate shit, but so do stand up comedians. He shouldn’t be saying some of the stuff he spews out, especially since he’s a politician, but I find him funny and and I get a kick out of him trolling everyone.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 11, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He had surprisingly good stand-up skill, I must admit. It sounds much funnier live that 140 characters at a time.
If you're not watching Treme, you're a bad person.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 11, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem is...
he’s running for public office. If he wanted to limit his career options to fighting and possibly TV work, no big deal.
Wanting to serve the public in elected office? Using borderline racist language and imagery probably isn’t your best move.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Seeing the video really changed my perspective; when first reading the quotes I thought he was going for some low blows especially against the Nogueiras but the video reveals that he was clearly just doing some shtick. He is pretty much just placating the fans and doing his best stand-up comedian impersonation (which is surprisingly good).
When you're rich you don't write checks - Randy Moss
by s.r.genovese on Jun 11, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Basically, there doesn’t seem to be any malice in the comments, he is just doing his Chael shtick.
When you're rich you don't write checks - Randy Moss
by s.r.genovese on Jun 11, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He's got good timing in his delivery
He’s just annoying. Anderson’s been ducking him for 2 years? Lies! Lies and slander! Lies and slander!
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
What if he had directed those pygmy towards the Philippines? I remember you getting quite upset about Adam Carrolla (who is a comedian) saying derogatory things about the Philippines. Sonnen crossed the line with that comment. His intent was to belittle Anderson Silva and all other Brazilian fighters.
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by Erich Vowell on Jun 12, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
there's quite a lot of potentially upsetting comments made on that video also if you guys are interested.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 11, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
More questionable remarks about Brazilians in there.
How is the UFC going to be an international sport if all its American fighters act so narrow-minded and parochial?
If you fight, you fight. If you hope, you hope.
Please don't lump...
all (or any other) American fighters in with Chael Sonnen.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
Sonnen continues to make me more of a fan everytime out, seriously the angrier he gets fanboys and the more he gets looked at as a guy who has no chance. The sweeter it’s going to be when he shuts down Silva and shocks the world he’s reaching Mir levels of outrage and I dig it.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/76866807deabe3c1/
Anderson might just execute him in the octagon.
Very good..but tweets not hit BACK!
Seeing what he did to Maia for the spider comment, he might just lose it and and go Chong Li on the poor bastard.
I'm a lover not a fighter
Sonnen has made the fatal mistake of insulting Silva’s friends and mentors…
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
by Anthony Pace on Jun 11, 2010 11:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can too easily see Silva just dancing around like he did to Maia, as though to taunt Sonnen, saying he’s so far above Sonnen, it isn’t worth the fight. I hope he breaks Sonnen in-ring, though.
If you're not watching Treme, you're a bad person.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 11, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions
But unlike Maia Sonnen’s double leg will take care of any dancing with the stars routines, don’t worry for a second Chael will make him fight at UFC 117.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/76866807deabe3c1/
by Nightwhistler on Jun 12, 2010 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions
If Chael wins, BE will be an interesting place on Sunday morn….
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
by RolloTomasi on Jun 11, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you mean WHEN Chael wins
The rest... is virtually identical
by randy maverick on Jun 11, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think he might pull it off. Silva will lose one day. Unless he retires soon.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
by RolloTomasi on Jun 12, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
you mean when people discredit Silva as not really being a top dog,
because his quality wins were only against a math teacher, an overrated UFC washout, and an overrated and slow Reality Show winner?
Seems like the normal BE if you ask me. ;)
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 12, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Everybody will just say he got old.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
by Neil Manich on Jun 12, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, but you underestimate the fickleness of MMA fans...
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 12, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
look no further than the guy headlining this card...
one day, he’s the top dog, the next day, “he was never great anyway, he was just fed bums who were at a stylistic disadvantage to him”… fickle MMA fans will say that the moment Silva loses, or gets old.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 12, 2010 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Chael Sonnen is trying to sell a fight.He’s dealing in hype and hyperbole in his efforts to try to drum up interest in his fight.He’s acting as an entertainer,not some kind of arbiter of truth.
The Huntington Post using this to try to knock him is just an attempt to take a swipe at a Republican.It’s extremely easy to cast someone as some sort of social misfit when you take their trash talk and cast it as a comment made in a serious tone.Imagine what would happen if the media dug up everything Jessie Ventura ever said on the mike when he was a pro wrestler.It’s the same thing.
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by Brian Mayes on Jun 12, 2010 12:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Imagine what would happen if the media dug up everything Jessie Ventura ever said on the mike when he was a pro wrestler.It’s the same thing.
Its a bit different considering Pro-wrestlers are playing a “character” or sorts, but not far off.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
You don’t think Sonnen is playing a character?
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
by RolloTomasi on Jun 12, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
You can sell a fight without acting like a complete tool.
The fact that he “is just trying to promote his fight” is no excuse to say some of the shit he is saying.
by Geno Mrosko on Jun 12, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
If he is, he is doing a terrible job of showing it.
Which would be a very smart thing to differentiate when both promoting a fight (with the tactics he is using) and running for political office at the same time.
Jesse Ventura did the same, but decades apart and well after wrestling had revealed itself to truely be theater instead of reality as it had longly contested, thus setting the stage that individuals involved (even those using their real names) are only playing characters.
I’d say the two aren’t really that similar.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
FINALLY!! someone here gets it! this is exactly right. the HuffPo—a far left, completely biased, hack “journalism” outfit that never attempts to be fair—is simply trying to take down another Republican. that is as far as their interest goes. as for their allegations of “racism” and “xenophobia”, it’s just the usual leftist accusations about the right being a bunch of racist pigs. all that comes out of a leftist’s mouth sounds to me like “blah blah blah racism blah blah blah”. the left sees everything through the prism of race and therefore always tries to ascribe racist beliefs to any comments they don’t like that are made by right wingers.
by Rex Goliath on Jun 12, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Horrid Strawman Argument
I’m a liberal. I don’t see everything through a “prism of race”. I don’t think Chael is racist. I just that his comments hit on culturally sensitive issues (i.e. the Christianizing of the New World). I doubt he even gives a damn, and he’s just working as an epic heel.
And I think HuffPo is mediocre. Some interesting stuff, largely fluff.
If you're not watching Treme, you're a bad person.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 12, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Must better to attack HuffPo for the level of its writing than its politics
You’re right, most of its stuff is not very good, even if you don’t mind the political leanings. Seems like they’re a tryout venue for people attempting to learn to write. Too many sorta-famous people thinking they can save the world, one PETA protest at a time.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
LOL at left vs right. Were you shocked when Hacksaw and the Iron Sheik got busted doing coke together?
by Bob Boblaw on Jun 12, 2010 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So I should stick to Fox News, fair & balanced?
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Now there is an Ebay auction I might bid on!
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
The funny thing for me is, I’ve met Cheal and talked with him a bit.
My Grandma lives 2 blocks from the Team Quest gym in Grasham OR. He’s always been very polite and respectful. He’s even given me and my friend free fight gear. (Gasp and my friend was BLACK?!?!?!)
I don’t think the quote about the deity and whatever else is such a big deal, but then I got warned about calling the “shake weight” the most homosexual product ever, so what do I know about insensitive remarks…
Alot of people write him off ‘cuz they don’t like his politics (I’m an independant by the way)
It’s easier to call him a racist and a douche than it is to fight him….. BTW he never tapped in the 1st Fhilo fight.
I’m done defending him, procede to make fun of me now…..;)
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
You don't actually have to tap to lose a fight to a submission attempt...
especially a submission that is capable of breaking a bone or damaging a joint.
Happens all the time.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
True, I was refering to the caption in the Pic at the top of the post.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
Which is a joke, because the only person lying in was Kid Nate because Chael never tapped and that was one of the biggest blown calls ever in mma ever. I mean the fact that people are so blinded they now want to re-write history to try and bash him says it all to me.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/76866807deabe3c1/
by Nightwhistler on Jun 12, 2010 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you're overstating it a bit...
and based on my own viewing and just looking at the pic above again…whether or not Chael tapped it was probably smart that the ref stopped that fight because his arm was close to going home with Paulo.
Hell, based on his body positioning in the pic, Sonnen was in no position to fight off the armbar attempt.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
So let it break! Don’t stop it early. Forrest won a fight with a broken arm.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
That is ignoring the Ref's stated purpose for being in the cage/ring.
Which includes saving fighters from themselves.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
I watched it live and caught all the replays and when you watch it again the call looks even worse he never gave Chael a chance to work out of the sub which is the least you can do in a title fight.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/76866807deabe3c1/
by Nightwhistler on Jun 12, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a blown call plain and simple, and in the rematch Chael dominated.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
To be fair...
Chael dominated the first fight too up until the arm bar.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
"It’s easier to call him a racist and a douche than it is to fight him"
Well, he does make that particular accusation easy to make. "Demon effigy’?
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
I simply don't even know how to respond to that
So attacking a non-Causcasian whomthe speaker perceives as not worshiping a Christian God isn’t racist?
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Glad I don't live in your world
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Actually it is.. Racism is beliving that your race is inherently better than another. Calling another race/ethnic groups religious belives the same as the embodiment of evil in your own religious belifes is inherently demeaning and claiming that your belifes/race/culture is better than theres on an epic scale.
THis belief system is also the basis of the deaths of millions of minority groups and native cultures throughout the course of human history.
It is racist.
“Ed [a Brazilian American MMA manager], pray to whatever Demon effigy you prance and dance in front of with your piglet tribe of savages that I decide not to CRUCIFY you.”
Sorry thats not racist…..funny, but not racist.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
I dont see the big deal with Chael's comments.
Well after seeing how the Nogueira’s treated Jason Brilz after his gutsy performance, I don’t care if the “punching bag” or the other one ever wins again. I’m surprised that no one commented on the lack of sportsmanship or respect Lil Nog showed Brilz at the end of their fight. Nog was on top as the 3rd round ended and after the buzzer sounded Brilz extended his hand to be helped up and Minatauru ignored his gesture. Brilz then walked over to Nogueira’s corner to shake hands only to be given a cold shoulder by both brothers. Maybe I’m blowing this out of proportion, but maybe everyone who has posted on Chaels comments being negative or “crossing the line,” are blowing things out of proportion. Sonnen is allowed to have an opinion after all and I for one have enjoyed every bit of it.
by SteveXtreme on Jun 12, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
am I the only one bothered by BE quoting from the f**king Huffington Post???
like it even qualifies as “journalism”!!! they’re just trying to take down a Republican, and that’s exactly as far as their interest in Chael Sonnen goes. call him a racist, wait for everyone else to react. typical leftist playbook.
by Rex Goliath on Jun 12, 2010 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Well... Chael isn't exactly making anyone have to stretch to call him a racist...
he’s providing all the ammunition they need via twitter…
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
by Razreshat on Jun 12, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll quote from whatever I want to
especially when the news value is that an MMA fighter turned politician is taking heat from a major political blog.
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by Kid Nate on Jun 12, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
I couldn’t disagree more with your take the comments, pull quotes from where ever thehell you want. Worst knock on an article I’ve heard.
by pwrcartel on Jun 12, 2010 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Read Red State or WND any?
HuffPo is freakin’ Edward R. Murrow compared to those guys.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
well that’s just brilliant. give no weight to whether the comments by the “major political blog” are fair or even accurate, just run with it b/c it’s mma coverage from said major political blog. that kind of thinking is what keeps irresponsible and unfair outlets like HuffPo doing what they’re doing: making absurd, reactionary claims bc it gets people talking. it’s an end unto itself.
wait…don’t we already know the comments the liberal blog was referring too, so they probably are fair and accurate seeing as we have been reading them for weeks now.
Kimbo wants to take your caterpiller and do bad things to it.
WTF? How did this get green?
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by SSreporters on Jun 12, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The Huffington post isn’t fit to wipe my ass with.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
Good thing, because its digital...
all those 1 and 0s stuck up your bum would hurt and it would be hard to explain to the VA.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
It’s an expresion dude…. lighten up.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
I am very familiar with the expression...
and was obviously making a not-as-funny-as-I-thought joke.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
Oh sorry, I’m just frazzled from constantly defending myself. I guess my sarcasim meter is broken.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
No problem...
I get caught up in the “debate” here all the time and miss jokes left and right.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
Wonder if hes getting under anderson's skin
with all these comments? People talk of koscheck as a heel, Chael Sonnen is taking it to a new level
lol, Sonnen crossed the line?
I’ve seen worse in 3 of the last 5 BE blog mainpage postings.
by pickleofguatemala on Jun 12, 2010 1:43 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dana has to be liking this, he knows that Anderson is going to try and knock Chael’s head off his shoulders, I can guarantee you Anderson won’t be dancing around with all the crap Chael has been talking.
You're assuming we understand Anderson's reasoning...
I’m not sure we do.
Maia supposedly insulted him in some way and you see what we got.
Perhaps in Anderson’s world an opponent he doesn’t like or feels insulted by gets clowned for 5 rounds while an opponent he respects gets a respectable effort to finish the fight…who knows. I have been slowly coming to realize that perhaps there is more cultural static between Brazilian and American than we know, or it could just be Anderson.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
Yea, the whole "Anderson being horribly offended that Maia said that he would submit him" was such a load of garbage
87% of all pre-fight talk has one fighter claiming he will knockout or submit the other guy.
Anderson probably is mad at Wanderlei or something.
by pickleofguatemala on Jun 12, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
For Anderson / Franklin II
Franklin got what he wanted, which was to have the bout in Cincinnati. However, Anderson said before the bout that he would have preferred that they had not had to fight there. Normally, I could see where a fighter would not want to fight where his opponent would have a hometown advantage…however, based on the look on Anderson’s face after applying another beat down on Franklin I got the sincere impression that he did not want to have to do that to someone he respected in front of their hometown crowd.
Maybe it’s just me.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
Atleast when Sonnen gets his ass handed to him he may have a future in comedy.
Maybe Rogan needs a partner on his “comedy tours” selling out at small venues.
Thank Uncle Dana for handing you your death warrant.
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by Ryan Tical on Jun 12, 2010 1:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Given their respective politics
I can’t see Rogan and Sonnen being roomies or anything.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Wow, where to begin.
Does Chael think they speak Spanish in Brazil? The comment about bowing and getting knocked over the head and your wallet stolen in Brazil is right on. Hella funny. The knife in the back comment was really weird. Also bashing the Nog brothers and Muay Thai? I don’ t know about that. Chael sure has found a voice for himself lol.
You know I don’t really care what dumb ass things the guy says to promote the fight but for goodness sake the whole “it isn’t my twitter account” bit is just plain pathetic. Lets see, a lack ofintegrity and the strength of character to take responsibility for his own statements, guess he really is a politician at heart.
lol I’m sorry but I find him hilarious and hope he stirs Anderson’s shit right up. (Dont make that an image in your mind)
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
This is theatre
It’s just trashtalking guys. Even if he did it, I imagine he wants Anderson to come out guns blazing… rather than prance around like in the Maia fight. It’s freaking theatre, nothing more.
- Create hype by saying ‘wrong’ things
- Play mindgames with your opponent
- Cash paycheck
I think you all need to stop freaking worrying about this sort of shit. Plus, let’s stop pretending half of the earth’s population doesn’t make racially sensitive comments at times. Let’s stop pretending we live in a chocolate coated world of sugar. Shit is going to be said, wether one means it or not.
I personally dislike all the bad mouthing that goes on pre fight between fighters. Unnecessary, Now Machida and Shogun are perfect examples of two amazing athletes / fighters (and not sh**t talking comedians) having complete respect for the each other… Hype Hype Hype… Chael got the fight with Silva, no more sh**t talking, just be ready fight night. The comments about the Nog bro’s were TOTALY UN CALLED FOR! But you know what… thats all Chael has at this point, jokes and trash talking. I bought my tickets to this event and i am driving over 600 miles to see it and if Chael’s mission was to hype the fight well not only was successful doing so but he also lost my support.
Anderson Silva via KO!
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Chael obviously went to the Kid Nate School of Trolling
by The Omaplatapus on Jun 12, 2010 5:40 AM EDT reply actions
TBH Kid Nate's got nothing.
Silky Johnson is not impressed by Kid Nate’s hating performance. To be fair, I don’t think Nate is really trying.
If you fight, you fight. If you hope, you hope.
Sonnen is an idiot.. I’m mostly trying to just ignore the guy, I don’t find him funny and I see no reason to give him exposure for his trolling (the “MMA media” sadly does though). I think it’s all just very silly and childish, it does not make me more interested in the fight at all. If anything, I wish the guy would’ve never gotten the title shot. I’m glad he got called out on his racist BS by someone outside of MMA media, very weak of Sonnen to try and deny his Twitter account at this point (it’s quite obviously his).
Don’t have any problem with and of his comments. His line about not having a twitter account was just an attempt to set up to following joke. You could see the smirk on his face when he said it. Not a big deal. As far as disprespecting the Nogueiras, all he is doing is trying to get this fight to his world… the ground. Honestly, really not a big deal at all. This was really not worth an article… could have posted just the interviews!
by ManicPreacher on Jun 12, 2010 9:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
At least Sonnen manages to keep people interested in Anderson's next fight.
Cause Silva needs the attention after he last laid a big fat poo in the ring against Maia. The greatest shit talker taking on the greatest fighter. It’ll be a beatdown of epic proportions. And in the end, everyone will chear Silva for shutting Sonnen up. Probably the best thing for Silva at this point in his career.
I'd laugh for hours
if Sonnen lays and prays Silva.
It would be one of those Eric Cartman laughs that just never end.
I give Sonnen about a 20% chance of winning and an 80% chance of getting KTFO.
Would enjoy both Silva losing or Silva putting on another classic performance like he did against Forrest.
I wouldn't give him 20%.
Maybe 3-5%. We will see how much desire Anderson has left in the tank. If we see a round 1 TKO, we know whats up.
The way that was pieced together I felt like I was watching a stand up comedian but he wasn't all that funny.
Sonnen is doing a lot of talking! I’m surprised Anderson hasn’t said a word about him. Sonnen is trying to get into Anderson’s head and I’m not too sure if it’s working.
Shut up, Tito.
by TruthSeeker1223 on Jun 12, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
ya know......
i almost forgot we live in America and people died for our right to freedom, pursuit of happiness, freedom of speech etc. basically what im trying to say is people can say what the damn well please about whoever they want……its their opinion let them be entitled…..even with rampage and his “homophobic” slurs by calling something “gay” i mean seriously? if u want to argue over what people say, move to russia or china or something where they arent given the right to do what they please
blumpkin king
by blumpkins on Jun 12, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Ah, the old "Love it or Leave it!" crowd
So, does that mean I can tell people who say “Obama shouldn’t even be president!” to leave?
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
No
If you want to tell them what not to say YOU can leave.
by Electro Boy on Jun 12, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How things change after an election
because for 8 years, when I didn’t like the president, that’s certainly the sentiment I was treated to.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Really?
Ask John Stewart how it worked out for him…
I’m not saying that I’m not a fan of the daily show but lets face it Bush made Stewart a ton of money.
Without Bush the Daily show would have been about 2 mins. a night. Cash Cow, that’s what Bush was to Jon Stewart.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
And Obama is to Fox News.
Lets not pretend that Right or Left doesn’t have some sort of profit opportunity when they get their turn as the “Opposition” party. Its all the same with the same parties taking turns playing different parts every 4 to 8 years.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
I'm not point fingers man
I’m just saying that bashing the President has been a national past time since Watergate.
I'm betting there was some jerk-off in Boston...
making fun of decisions Washington made in 1795 for free drinks at a pub.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
It’s easier to talk shit than find solutions.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
And unfortunately much more profitable.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
where is this held at?
The crowd is fucking dumb for cheering him when he talks shit about the nog brothers….its probly vegas
The Red Wings will come back stronger
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Yeah fuck those idiots, you know better.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
Pain don't hurt...
by RolloTomasi on Jun 12, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply <