FightMetric Reports for Sam Stout vs. Jeremy Stephens, Josh Koscheck vs. Paul Daley From UFC 113
by Mike Fagan on May 9, 2010 11:46 AM EDT
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Even when they're right, they're wrong.
Jeremy Stephens beat Sam Stout last night, and I don't think many rational people would beg to differ (I'm looking at you, Herr Thomas), nor would many differ in the 29-28 scorecard (with round 3 being the lone Stout round). Yet the judges were all over the place with one judge handing out the 29-28 Stephens, another 30-27 Stephens, and the final judge going 29-28 Stout.
That is to say: Jeremy Stephens was one judge awarding one round to Sam Stout away from losing a fight he clearly won.
These rounds were fairly clear cut according to FightMetric's Effectiveness Scores. Here they are along with the extrapolated ten-point must scoring:
| Stephens | Stout | TPM | |
| Round 1 | 181 | 58 | 10-9 JS |
| Round 2 | 112 | 64 | 10-9 JS |
| Round 3 | 71 | 168 | 10-9 SS |
| Total | 381 | 290 | 29-28 JS |
The first round was clear cut, and I would assume the dissenting card gave Sam Stout round two. Below are the raw stats for rounds two and three. Leg kicks are included in the "body" numbers. Data listed is strikes landed, takedowns completed, and submissions attempted.
| Stephens | Stout | |
| Head Power | 11 | 3 |
| Head Jab | 3 | 9 |
| Body Power | 2 | 6 |
| Body Jab | 8 | 5 |
| Takedowns | 1 | 0 |
| Sub. Attempts | 0 | 1 |
| Stephens | Stout | |
| Head Power | 6 | 14 |
| Head Jab | 4 | 8 |
| Body Power | 2 | 4 |
| Body Jab | 1 | 2 |
| Takedowns | 1 | 0 |
| Sub. Attempts | 0 | 0 |
Stout was also credited with a knockdown in round three.
I thought each round was clear cut watching live, and the data would appear to back that up. I'm interested what the judges saw so differently cageside.
Check out Josh Koscheck's domination after the jump. (Insert Paul Daley sucker punch joke here.)
Whilst confirming the UFC cutting Paul Daley on MMA Live's post-fight show, Dana White said something really off-the-wall even for him. According to White, Paul Daley "looked great" against Josh Koscheck. Huh? I saw another British fighter with no answer for an elite North American wrestling game.
Did Dana see something I missed? I mean, I suppose it was sort of impressive that Daley staved off Koscheck's mount attempts as much as he did, but he looked completely ineffective for the entirety of 15 the minutes.
Fortunately, FightMetric scored the bout. Here are the raw stats for the bout:
| Koscheck | Daley | |
| Head Power | 11 | 7 |
| Head Jab | 32 | 5 |
| Body Power | 7 | 0 |
| Body Jab | 33 | 2 |
| Takedowns | 4 | 0 |
| Sub. Attempts | 1 | 0 |
The immediate reaction to the fight (outside of the extracurriculars) was that Koscheck's performance was effective, but would get him torched by GSP. Let's put this into some context. Dana announced before the fight that the winner gets a title shot and TUF gig. Paul Daley has very real power. Contrary to what some believe, Koscheck is a smart fighter. Why would he do anything else, but attack Daley's major deficiency and grind out a pedestrian decision?
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I really thought Stephens secured round 1 and 2 handily. It was an excellent fight, Stout doesn’t have anything to be ashamed of, I think it’s a coin toss of a fight, and either guy could beat the other, depending on how they perform. Koscheck dominated, but it seemed to me like he should have been able to do a lot more damage on the ground to a guy like Daley, BUT, Daley did like more competent in defending the takedown and staying active trying to get back up. Shame he bought himself a one way ticket out of the UFC, because I think Daley is kick ass.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on May 9, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much have the same thoughts
I def thought Stephens had round 1 and 2. I don’t get why people thought Stout was “robbed”, but I guess when you win the last round it can look that way. It was just a close fight all the way around, both these guys put on a hell of a fight.
I lost more respect for Daley with the cheap shot than I did for Kos with the “injury”.
"I'm going to strip them of their health. I bring the pain, a lot of pain."" - Tyson
Yeah, if Daley had contained his emotions, Kos would have looked like a complete jackass, while Daley looked improved, but still not champion material. I mean, Daley was in a good place. The man would be getting knock out bonuses left and right in the lower levels of the division, making a name for himself, and still getting better.
If he’s not beating himself up about this, I’d be shocked. His whole “I didn’t hear the bell” line doesn’t help either, Dana even acknowledged that things may have been different if Daley’s answer was apologetic and responsible. Slim chance he wouldn’t have got cut then either, but taking responsibility and owning your actions goes a long way.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on May 9, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, there is no way he thought the fight was still on. You can tell he knows the fight is over and even after his shot before Dan grabs him he is making that gesture like he is talking smack like someone who hits you in a bar fight trying to egg you on.
It’s a shame b/c his takedown defense was looking really good against someone who was a very good wrestler. With some more work he could have been a little Chuck Liddell and just stayed to his feet to work the KOs in his fights.
"I'm going to strip them of their health. I bring the pain, a lot of pain."" - Tyson
I’m thinking GSP was NOT impressed by Koscheck’s performance, but it was a smart way to get the title shot. Why risk injury or rockage of the fraggle? Besides,Daley would get eaten alive by George, and the Kos Uberheel plays perfectly against GSP’s image. The only hope for a good fight is from a strong wrestler with submission skills, be it Kos or Shields.
The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.
I think GSP vs a wrestler with no striking =‘s fun display of Georges stand up. I think Shields fits that category, while GSP will just put Kos on his back since he hits like a truck. I do hope GSP is more liberal with his striking though. I don’t blame anyone for fighting intelligently, but I remember how exciting the Fitch fight was compared to the Hardy fight…and I want more.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on May 9, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Kos needs a finishing ground game
GSP is unlikely to finish Kos especially if GSP takes Kos down (he will), what that means is we have a 5 round fight. In a 5 round fight I think Kos will get on top for maybe 1-2 minutes. Unfortunately, Kos had trouble doing any real damage or finishing vs. Paul Daley, so he’s got no chance against GSP…Also while Kos is an OK grappler, he isn’t threatening at all from the bottom.
Kos or Shields is really the best matchup I can think of, but GSP is a huge favorite vs either.
The immediate reaction to the fight (outside of the extracurriculars) was that Koscheck’s performance was effective, but would get him torched by GSP. Let’s put this into some context. Dana announced before the fight that the winner gets a title shot and TUF gig. Paul Daley has very real power. Contrary to what some believe, Koscheck is a smart fighter. Why would he do anything else, but attack Daley’s major deficiency and grind out a pedestrian decision?
I agree. With that much on the line, it should really be no surprise that Kos took the clearest path to victory available to him.
Kos also said the same thing on his post-fight interview with Helwani.
He apologized for fighting very conservative, he just felt that since it was for a title shot, he should find the easiest rout to win, no matter how ugly it looked.
by Anton Tabuena on May 9, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
You're right...
Thing is, I don’t see how anyone can really blame him for fighting to his strengths w/ that much on the line. Sure I would have liked to have seen him sub or TKO Daley from the ground, but doing something like standing toe-to-toe against Daley would have been stupid(though looking at the FightMetric stats, looks like Kos got more and better strikes on Daley).
Can’t blame him, Kos had been in the UFC for 5 years now, has a UFC record of 13-4. He was on the road to a shot a few times when he ran into: GSP 3.0, Thiago Alves on a week’s notice, and Brazil’s ultimate badass.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - HP Lovecraft
Anyone complaining about the Stephens/Stout results is barking up the wrong tree… at least under the current judging set-up. I called the scorecards, including the 30-27 Stephens.
Round 1 was definitely Stephens’; rounds 2 and 3 could have gone either way if your view was less than perfect, even though both rounds had a clear winner if you had a good view.
by thekiltedwonder on May 9, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
dana's a promoter at first
his job includes obvious lies when they are needed to bolster an event
Go big red!
Great fight with Stephens Stout. Stephens 29-28 was pretty clear to me. I really don’t know how these judges are all over the place. Get these guys some damn monitors I mean cmon man this is bullshit. Great fight between these two though. Stephens,Stout,Fisher are all top notch strikers. Would love to see Guillard vs. any of them although I recognize these 3 don’t have the ground capabilties to be at the top of 155.
Daley showed good survival skills. Plus he didn’t gas. AJ gassed which directly has to do with the amount of weight he cuts. Forget about changing the weigh ins there are clear positives and negatives to the weight cutting game.
Koscheck is easily the most competitive fight against GSP. I mean Shields has nothing on the feet. How is this even an option while Kos is around? Koscheck was suprised and likely wasn’t even training wrestling when he fought GSP the first time. I expect a highly competitive fight. Does GSP have the edge? Surely. GSP is everything Kos was supposed to be. GSP has the edge in the wrestling and standup as well as JJ. But it isn’t by huge measures. This will be a great fight trust me.
I called Stephens by split decision before the cards were read
Stephens clearly won rd 1, but Stout looked better in 2 than he did in 1, which could have given someone the impression that he was turning the fight in his favor.
But in this case, the multi-judge system worked. Most of the judges got it mostly right, and the right guy got the decision.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
Daley being cut from the UFC makes me sad
I guess strikeforce will be picking him up at a discount price after that classless sucker-punch. It really is too bad, his takedown defense wasn’t awful against Kos, and that left hand can end a fight at any moment.
Also, Koschek’s MMA heel act is second to none. I may actually be warming up to this man, despite the fact that he looks like some sort of horrific clown/baby hybrid.
at least we'll get daley v.s. diaz
but i am totally bummed too, i love daley. at the same time, what dana is saying is right, there’s no room for this kind of bs…. wish he coulda just been suspended for 6 months though or something….
by cagefightonacid on May 9, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey this is all true but shit we can still see Daley fight Diaz which will be sick and there will be plenty of other fights for him as well. I know everyone here will be watching Daley fight for whatever promotion against someone competitive. Daley is still young right? He will make his way back Dana is just pissed right now. Couple of apologies , several knockouts and he’ll be back. He still doesn’t stand a chance against the top level wreslters so his potential isn’t going to change.
We did miss out on Daley vs Alves , Johnson. So that does suck. Eh what can you do?
by MichaelJ1985 on May 10, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
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