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UFC 113: Machida vs. Shogun 2 Predictions

UFC 113: "Machida vs. Shogun 2"
The Bell Centre
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Lyoto Machida vs. Mauricio Rua


Luke Thomas:I do believe those who say this fight will involve more direct clashing than the last. In order to not let it go to the judges, both will have to fight with a greater sense of urgency and not try to appear as though they're content to win the round. I ultimately believe that will put more pressure on Shogun than Machida. Both will look noticeably more for the finish than before, but the game of patience and precision is Machida's (especially when the judging is suspect). Shogun will fight with a greater tempo and will look to put more combinations together. I also expect Machida to use the clinch to take Shogun down more consistently to disrupt his rhythm a la Edgar vs. Penn. Shogun's takedown defense is porous and his willingness to enter the clinch in his fights allows him to get Gable Gripped under the waist quite often. I suppose I ultimately see Shogun being less risk averse, which would work against most opposition. That seems like too risky of a strategy. The truth is his gameplanning was correct the first time, but not judge friendly. Swinging with more abandon is more finish-friendly, but not against the counter fighting precision of Machida. Talk about a rock and a hard place. Machida by TKO.

Kid Nate: I think Machida will have a tactical edge and could win it in the clinch if he changes his game plan. But I also believe that Shogun is the superior athlete and I think if both men followed the same game plan that Shogun would finish in the later rounds. That makes this a very hard call. I'm going with Machida as the one who'll adjust. Lyoto Machida by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: Who makes what adjustments?  If it turns out that Machida is incapable of making any adjustments to avoid leg kicks and the like his reign was due for an end sooner than later anyway.  If Shogun deviates too much from a successful gameplan that'd be strange, but he has to be able to adjust to the adjustments Machida makes.  It's the height of the MMA chessmatch.  A win by either guy would not shock, but I just think Machida has the better tools to adjust, frustrate and win.  Lyoto Machida by (controversial) decision.

Michael Rome:  My inclination since the first fight hasn't changed: I really think Shogun will take this.  By the fourth round or so of their first fight Shogun had Machida's timing down, and he will be the first guy to now start a fight against Machida having already figured the puzzle out.  I think he will go after the legs and body for much of the first 2 rounds, and then finish this off later.  I am unconvinced that Machida can adapt his style, and I'm also curious about his mental state now that someone has figured out his style.  Joe Rogan made the observation that muay thai is a more efficient style than shotokan karate, and Shogun was the first fighter Machida faced that was as proficient in muay Thai as he is in karate.  If he's right, and Machida's real advantage is the element of surprise, the Machida era is truly over.  We shall see.  Shogun via TKO, round 4.

Mike Fagan: I'll probably still be going back-and-forth on this fight right up until they step into the cage. On one hand, it's hard to throw away Shogun's first performance. On the other, it's hard to ignore Machida's run of dominance in the UFC. Shogun seems like he's going to stick with his gameplan that worked for 25 minutes the first go around, and that seems like a bad idea. I like Machida to make the necessary adjustments. Lyoto Mahcida by decision.

Chris Nelson: Machida should have an answer to Shogun's leg kicks this time out. Granted, I have no idea what that'll be, but I think he'll have one. My highly technical analysis is that this fight will look a lot like the first one, except with Machida absorbing less damage. Machida via decision.

Leland Roling: I think we're in for another highly strategic and technical battle. From the sounds of the lead-up to this event, Rua is focusing a lot on his kicks while Machida hasn't really hinted at a change in his gameplan. I think Rua will probably want to use his kicks to set up for later round takedowns, but Machida will more than likely be quicker as I didn't think he was as speedy as we've seen in past fights in their first encounter. I think we'll see more lateral movement, and it'll cause Rua to have to kick and miss and open himself up to counters. It's a tough fight to gauge though, and the fight could go down completely differently than I see it. I think Machida edges him out on points though. Lyoto Machida via decision.


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Paul Daley vs. Josh Koscheck

Luke Thomas: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Koscheck make a foolish decision and stand with Daley for far too long. That being said, his preservation skills are better than they once were. And I don't think Daley's takedown defense is ultimately as good as Thiago Alves. This is a close fight and I expect some tense moments, but Koscheck should not lose this if he fights intelligently. Koscheck by decision.

Kid Nate: Koscheck is surely smart enough to take Daley down and beat him on the ground. Even Koscheck isn't dumb enough to stand with Semtex. Is he? Is he really? Koscheck by submission.

Brent Brookhouse: I'm a huge Paul Daley fan but lets not pretend this isn't the exact kind of guy that he comes up short against every single try.  I've heard really good things about Daley's camp and the strides he has made in stuffing takedowns.  People are far too willing to buy into the idea that Koscheck is bad with gameplans, he is not.  He will go for the takedown, get it, land a few punches, and lock in a choke.  Josh Koscheck by submission, round 1.

Michael Rome:  This is kind of like an updated version of Koscheck's last fight.  Daley is a better striker than Johnson, but he's a weaker wrestler.  Daley's left hook is perfect for countering Koscheck's wild right, but I think Koscheck is tough enough to take one and survive before shooting in.  Koscheck via TKO, round 2.

Mike Fagan: We just saw this fight a few months ago. North American wrestler trumps British striker. Josh Koscheck by submission, round 2.

Chris Nelson: I actually don't think that Koscheck will take Daley down straight away, and as we've seen, a small window of opportunity is all "Semtex" needs. Gimme the upset. Daley via TKO, round one.

Leland Roling: Absolutely love Paul Daley's style and knockout power, but Koscheck can be an absolute nightmare. While Koscheck has said he'd probably strike in the early days after the fight announcement, I think he's smartly realized that powering through Daley and taking him down will be the way to win quickly. Koscheck's wrestling is solid, and his ground and pound is absolutely brutal. Josh Koscheck via TKO, Round 2.


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Kimbo Slice vs. Matt Mitrione

Luke Thomas: I suspect Kimbo will play conservatively and try to pick Mitrione apart at a distance. He can still be bludgeoned at a distance, but Mitrione needs a brawl to win. Provided Kimbo denies him that, Slice should be fine. "Should" being the operative word. Slice by decision.

Kid Nate: Mitrione hits harder than Kimbo I'm guessing. But I think Kimbo has more heart. Kimbo by decision.

Brent Brookhouse: Mitrione hits hard with his power shots.  Kimbo comes from a better camp and is probably better all-around.  Still, Mitrione is bigger and likely won't fall victim to any ragdolling ala Houston Alexander.  The real deciding factor for me is that, even going back to his street fighting days, Kimbo's knees buckle every time he gets hit flush.  Matt hits a lot harder than some scrub in the street.  Assuming Mitrione isn't hesitant to engage I think he's going to hurt and finish Slice early.  Matt Mitrione by KO, round 1.

Michael Rome:  Yawn.  The constant harping on Kimbo on the WEC show and the countdown was a waste of time.  I think he is going to win here, I've never been too impressed with Mitrione and I think Kimbo will win a war of attrition.  Slice via decision.

Mike Fagan: I think the UFC might have found someone that Kimbo is better at in MMA. Unfortunately, Mitrione has the right skill set that might end Slice's night. Still, I think Kimbo + ATT trumps Mitrione and wherever he's at now (is he still with Lytle?). Kimbo Slice by submission, round 2.

Chris Nelson: I'm not mad at having to watch this, but I'm bummed that it's taking up PPV space. This should be free on Spike or something. While I think most everyone would like to see Kimbo put a beating on the headcase Mitrione, I just can't see it happening. Mitrione hits hard and Kimbo looks shopworn every time out. Mitrione via TKO, round two

Leland Roling: I would probably pick Slice in this fight most times, but I think Mitrione's size and hands will ultimately end Slice's run. It's going to be rather tough for Kimbo to throw him around, and while I'm not a fan of Mitrione's half-ass jabbing -- he has a chance. I'll go with the upset. Matt Mitrione via TKO.


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Jeremy Stephens vs. Sam Stout

Luke Thomas: Stephens is a thrilling fighter with clubbing power, but Stout's beard and more technical kickboxing is just too much. And sense he lacks the speed of Spencer Fisher, he's not looking at a lot of good options. Stout by decision.

Kid Nate: Stout doesn't thrill me but he's technically sound enough as a striker to outpoint most who can't beat him on the ground. Stephens has the proverbial puncher's chance. But I'm taking Stout by decision.

Brent Brookhouse: Stout is very good technically.  He moves well, uses good angles, and puts together complex combinations.  That's much more than can be said for Stephens who is a pure headhunter.  Stout is going to pick him apart and bust him up for 3 rounds.  Sam Stout by decision.

Michael Rome:  This should be a good fight.  Stephens has a lot of liabilities standing, and Stout looked great on his feet in his last outing.  Stephens can take a decision through wrestling, but I think Stout's standing game will be too much.  Stout via decision.

Mike Fagan: This will be close, but I think Stout's technique will be the decider. Sam Stout by decision.

Chris Nelson: Stout's looked fine against Matt Wiman and a rusty Joe Lauzon, but this will be a solid test for him. Could really see this going either way, but I'll pick Stout via decision on home soil.

Leland Roling: Stout's footwork and technical striking should overcome Stephen's "SHROOOYUKEN" uppercuts. Sam Stout via decision.

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Alan Belcher vs. Patrick Cote

Luke Thomas: Belcher's just too passive and lacks tactical gameplanning that includes urgency or adaptation. Against someone with the decent defense/solid firepower of Cote, that just spells trouble. Cote by TKO.

Kid Nate: Another one I'm not that excited about. Cote has been out for a long time. Knee injuries are no joke. Cote at his best would smoke Belcher. I'll bet he's still got it. Cote by KO.

Brent Brookhouse: Belcher's style would get him slept with quickness against a healthy, non-rusty Cote.  As of my typing this Belcher is actually a slight favorite to take the win.  I assume this is due to the fact that guys don't often return from 18 months of inactivity after major knee injuries without some pretty negative effects.  Still, Belcher stays far too open to be hit for me to not take Patrick.  Patrick Cote by KO, round 2.

Michael Rome:  This is a hard fight to call because I don't know what Patrick Cote to expect.  He's had quite a long layoff and I fully expect him to be a bit rusty.  Belcher is a very talented striker, but he leaves himself wide open.  He's the kind of guy that takes 2 to give 1, and I think that is a problem against someone like Cote.  Cote via KO, round 2.

Mike Fagan: If I knew Cote would perform as if he hadn't been off for 18 months without a knee injury, I'd take him in a heartbeat. But because of the injury, I'm taking Alan Belcher by decision.

Chris Nelson: While Cote is clearly the superior fighter, I just can't bring myself to pick a guy who's been out for a year-and-a-half with a serious knee injury. Belcher via decision.

Leland Roling: I'm not a huge fan of Belcher's openness in the stand-up game. He eats way too many punches, and his strikes aren't exactly blazing fast. He seems to always have a problem with his conditioning as well, and I think Cote can move in and out and find a home for his power. Patrick Cote via KO, Round 2.

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Under card:


Marcus Davis vs. Jonathan Goulet 

Luke Thomas: I give Goulet 30 seconds. Davis by KO.

Kid Nate: Ah Marcus Davis, once you were a contender. Now you're fighting Goulet. Could be a good scrap but I expect Davis by KO.

Brent Brookhouse: This isn't a real fight.  Marcus Davis by KO, round 1.

Michael Rome:  This reads to me like a gift to Marcus Davis.  He's a favorite of the UFC brass and they want to get him another win.  Nothing better than a guy with a suspect chin.  I think the loser may be out of a job, unfortunately.  Marcus Davis via KO, round 1.

Mike Fagan: Marcus Davis can throw. Jon Goulet has no chin. 2+2=4, Marcus Davis by TKO, round 1.

Chris Nelson: I briefly considered picking Goulet just to be a contrarian, until I realized that "The Road Warrior" hasn't fought in almost 18 months. This seems like a foregone conclusion. Davis via TKO, round one.

Leland Roling: Glass Joe is going down quickly against Davis' power. Unless Goulet has been progressively improving his defense, Davis should win via KO. Marcus Davis via KO, Round 1.


Joey Beltran vs. Tim Hague

Luke Thomas: Provided Hague doesn't gas, he should be fine. Hague by submission.

Kid Nate: Hard to care about this one too much. Will pick Hague since I was slightly more impressed with him against Pat Barry than anything I've seen from Beltran. Hague by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: People seem a bit quick to write off Beltran here, but even saying that.  Tim Hague by decision.

Mike Fagan: Beltran may have a better UFC record, but his opposition hasn't been that great either. Tim Hague by decision.

Chris Nelson: Call me crazy for picking a man who twice lost to Tony Lopez, but I've got a feeling. Joey Beltran via TKO, round one.

Leland Roling: Hague will be significantly bigger and stronger, in my opinion. Sure, Beltran is a solid puncher with some good wrestling, but in such a low-tier match-up -- I gotta go with the bigger man. I think it's a pretty even fight, but I'll take Hague. Tim Hague via decision.



T.J. Grant vs. Johny Hendricks 

Luke Thomas: Grant's not half the wrestler or athlete Hendricks is. Hendricks is going to have his way with the Canadian until he leaves an opening in a positional scramble. Hendricks by submission.

Kid Nate:  Very fun fight. Hendricks is a blue chipper but kind of small for a welterweight. T.J. Grant is very well rounded and will have a jiu jitsu edge. But Hendricks will keep it on the feet and win it with his hands. Johny Hendricks by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: I really like Grant as a potential upset pick and at +350 I think he's a great bet.  Still, Hendricks hits harder, has better positioning and can work from the top quite effectively.  Johny Hendricks by decision.

Michael Rome:  This is a fight I hope makes the main broadcast.  I'm very interested in both guys, though I think they both should probably try to make the cut to 155.  Hendricks in particular has a very bright future if he keeps developing his dirty boxing game.  I think Hendricks' wrestling is just going to be too much.  Hendricks via decision.

Mike Fagan: Hendricks should take this with some of the better wrestling in the UFC. Johny Hendricks by decision.

Chris Nelson: Hendricks either ends this quickly or takes a dominant decision. Being that Grant has a sturdy chin, I'll go with Hendricks via decision.

Leland Roling: Grant definitely has upset potential, but Hendricks has become somewhat of powerful puncher. Great clinch punching and his wrestling is top notch. Look for him to pick up another win here. Johny Hendricks via TKO.



Joe Doerksen vs. Tom Lawlor

Luke Thomas: I was impressed with Lawlor's stand-up against Aaron Simpson. It's way more precise than I ever gave him credit. Worse, Doerksen's chin just isn't what it once was. Lawlor by TKO, round 2.

Kid Nate: I'm a Doerksen fan, but he's got a lot of miles on that body. Lawlor by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: I just don't find anything that cute or entertaining about Lawlor's entrances.  It's the height of cheesy and honestly pretty obnoxious.  In the cage is a different story as Lawlor is a hell of a developing talent and a lot of fun to watch.  Doerksen is a talented guy on the regional level and a not-so-great fighter at the major league level.  Tom Lawlor by TKO, round 3.

Michael Rome:  Tom Lawlor is mainly known for entertaining fans with his entrances, but he's a very tough fighter underneath all the flash.  Doerksen is the epitome of a journeyman, and I think Lawlor will win on athleticism alone.  Lawlor via decision.

Mike Fagan: Whatever the outcome, we all win after we see Lawlor's entrance. Tom Lawlor by decision.

Chris Nelson: The last fights I saw of Doerksen's were his Sengoku bouts. While he looked fairly impressive there, it's also easy to look impressive against unremarkable Pancrase middleweights. I'll take the younger, quicker and stronger Lawlor via TKO, round two.

Leland Roling: Doerksen's jab will be the key to keeping Lawlor away, but Lawlor has a decent chin and probably won't be bothered by Joe's strikes. I think Lawlor will be much more aggressive and powerful, and he'll land more than Doerksen and wear him out. Tom Lawlor via TKO.



Mike Guymon vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida

Luke Thomas: Yoshida should never lose this fight. Yoshida by submission.

Kid Nate: Yoshida should dominate here. Yoshida by submission.

Brent Brookhouse: Assuming he can close distance effectively it's Yoshida's fight to lose.  If he does end up on the end of a few punches he could be in a lot of trouble given his chin issues.  Still, let's be safe here.  Yoshiyuki Yoshida by TKO, round 2.

Michael Rome:  Guymon lost his first UFC bout at the hands of Rory Macdonald, but he did drop Macdonald once.  We haven't seen enough of MacDonald to determine whether this is a gigantic leap in competition, but we do know Yoshida has a questionable chin.  I think that despite his tendency to get knocked out in brutal fashion, Yoshida will win here using judo to get Guymon down and then following up with a submission.  Yoshida via submission.

Mike Fagan: I think Yoshida wins, but I won't be surprised to see Guymon drop him from the UFC either. Yoshiyuki Yoshida by decision.

Chris Nelson: Yoshida takes this to the mat early and puts a beating on Guymon. Yoshida via TKO, round one.

Leland Roling: I gotta go with Yoshida's top control striking in this fight. While Guymon is a great jiu-jitsu fighter, Yoshida is definitely good enough to avoid those submissions and put a world of hurt on Guymon. Yoshiyuki Yoshida via TKO.



Jason MacDonald vs. John Salter

Luke Thomas: Jason MacDonald is a tough bastard and I am happy for a guy who is willing to fight very tough competition that he'll get a chance to triangle someone in a UFC show in his home country. Good for him. MacDonald by submission.

Kid Nate: Nice to see MacDonald back. Too bad David Loiseau didn't make it. Although I think Jason would tap out the Crow too. MacDonald by submission.

Brent Brookhouse: Salter is going to have trouble with MacDonald's game and experience.  Jason MacDonald by submission, round 2.

Michael Rome:  Jason Macdonald via submission.

Mike Fagan: Bad luck for David Loiseau is Jason MacDonald's fortune. I think he takes this and wins himself another fight or two in the UFC. Jason MacDonald via submission, round 1.

Chris Nelson: I watched MacDonald take a drawn-out and fairly uninspired decision over Matt Horwich just a few weeks ago. "The Athlete" has a lot of miles on him, but he also only loses to upper-level guys. From all indications, John Salter is not that. MacDonald via decision.

Leland Roling: MacDonald hasn't looked great outside the UFC, and I'm going to stand by my word and go with the upset. John Salter via decision.

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by thetakeover on May 7, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Machida
Daley
Mitrione
Stout
Cote

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by 49er16 on May 7, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Will someone please explain to me

Why it seems that everyone assumes Machida will be the only one who alters his gameplan? Have we forgotten that the question of whether or not Shogun has a high “fighter IQ” was answered with a resounding YES last time out?

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by Anthony Pace on May 7, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think i wrote off his ability to gameplan
Who makes what adjustments? If it turns out that Machida is incapable of making any adjustments to avoid leg kicks and the like his reign was due for an end sooner than later anyway. If Shogun deviates too much from a successful gameplan that’d be strange, but he has to be able to adjust to the adjustments Machida makes. It’s the height of the MMA chessmatch.

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by Brent Brookhouse on May 7, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read again

They both adjust. That’s the entire premise of my prediction. I just don’t think the changes I am expecting Shogun to make to work in his favor.

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by Luke Thomas on May 7, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Shogun via TKO, round 4.”

This would be the first time in UFC history right?

by ufc4 on May 7, 2010 9:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

This was a really hard one to pick, but here goes:

Machida by decision (I see him winning the first three rounds, with Shogun taking over the latter two, but I think it’ll be too little, too late.)
Kos by submission.
Meathead by TKO (Kimbo’s got no slice!)
Stout by decision.
Cote by TKO

by pud333 on May 7, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I just don’t find anything that cute or entertaining about Lawlor’s entrances. It’s the height of cheesy and honestly pretty obnoxious.

Lame

by Mocha Shaka Khan on May 7, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Seconded. Come on Brent, quit being such an angry man and get down with the Law Dog.

How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?

by Day Man on May 7, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said, it’s just the entrances. In the cage I find the guy hugely entertaining. I just don’t need gimmicky entrances to care. They just come off as lame to me.

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by Brent Brookhouse on May 7, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Ric Flair entrance hypes me up more than anything in this world even though I knew what to expect. God, I hope somebody does the Flair entrance Music.

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by vivero on May 7, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just as long as...

when he gets hit really, really hard he takes 3 steps and does a faceplant…then the Rick Flair entrance is entirely acceptable.

by Razreshat on May 7, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d have to agree with Brent. It was amusing for a bit, but it’s old hat.

by pud333 on May 8, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find Lawlor’s antics very entertaining. If everyone started doing it then it would get annoying. Lawlor, Mayhem and King Mo all are good at entrances and for the most part they back it up in the cage.

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by ANance on May 7, 2010 9:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Picks

Machida TKO 3
Koscheck SUB 2
Kimbo TKO 1 (why not?)
Stephens UD 3 (upset special)
Belcher UD 3

Davis KO 1 (2.5 seconds)
Lawlor TKO 2
Yoshida SUB 1
Hague UD 3
MacDonald UD 3
Hendricks SUB 2

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by SSreporters on May 7, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

If Brent is right and it does end in “controversial” decision history tells me I will disagree with him.

I’m going
Shogun dec
Kos rear naked choke round three after a dominating performance
Kimbo just cause
Stout by UD
Belcher by Cote gassing
Davis by hilarious KO
Hendricks by sub
Yoshida sub
Lawlor by stache attack.
I always pick too many subs

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by Neil Manich on May 7, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

For Kid Nate...

Kimbo has more heart…

Simba had no heart when it was time to fight James McSweeney in the TUF 10 house…

Meathead can take punches MUCH harder than Kimbo can dish out…

Kimbo has a lot less power than most of the LHWs…

Matthead hits a whole lot harder than Simba…

I think 1st round KO…

Meatt is just too tall to last 3rounds…he needs a quick finish…

by Roll NControl on May 8, 2010 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone kept track of how the BE writers are doing in their picks for the year? Who’s got the most right, most upsets called etc.?

Ribbit.

by Ben Thapa on May 7, 2010 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Beer Monster usually keeps track of the numbers, but seems to disappear when I’m above .500

by Chris Nelson on May 8, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shogun
Daley
Slice
Stephens
Cote
Davis
Beltran
Hendricks
Lawlor
Yoshida
MacDonald

by The Legend on May 7, 2010 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

If Machida counters Shoguns kicks that means he’s going to get into a muay thai fight and guess who’s better at muay thai.

However, Machida can take shogun down… if he can keep the rounds close and secure a takedown he should win the fight. On the feet this fight is too close and if it’s close shogun will get the nod (the promotion of the fight will already predispose the judges to this outcome just like the “machida has never lost a round” promotional theme predisposed them to clinch the fight for Machida in the first 3 rounds of the first fight). If the fight is close Shogun will get the nod because besides the pre-fight hype, the live fans chanting will influence the judging.

Kos should win but he’s been known to do even dumber things in his career.

The only solid bet is Matt Mittrione. Kimbo’s gonna get Knocked the fuck out.

by mmalogic on May 7, 2010 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

promotion of the fight will already predispose the judges

totally agree but atleast the favor goes to Shogun this time.

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by vivero on May 7, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good God...

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by Nick Becker on May 8, 2010 1:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damn iPhone..

What I meant to say was good God, thankfully I’m not the only one who thinks Kimbo is going down hard. The man has no chin and it doesnt matter how long he grows out his ZZ Top beard that chin ain’t getting any stronger. Ladies and gentlemen, the Kimbo Slice experiment will officially end tomorrow night.

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by Nick Becker on May 8, 2010 1:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ZZ top beard...

reminded me. Has anyone else realized that Kimbo is simply the current version of Tank Abbot?

by Razreshat on May 8, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

But with 113% more commitmentship

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by Anthony Pace on May 8, 2010 1:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ive been equating kimbo to tank abbot for 2 years...its great that someone else has finally come to that realization

you know you're having some good sex when you start planning what you're gonna say in the 911 call afterwards...

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by HellaHectic on May 8, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not really. Tank has KO power. Real KO power.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on May 8, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

OG Stanky Leg

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
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by Damon O. on May 8, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Big Question:

Was the Shogun Rua we saw last fight the Shogun Rua of old, or was he still not at 100%? If Shogun was still working his way back to what he once was, then how he adjusts won’t matter as much as the benefits of coming into this fight in even better physical condition.

The other question: who is orcus picking?

by John Nash on May 7, 2010 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

The Liddell fight showed that Rua was in good shape. I guess I could assume that after 6 months he was somewhere 90% on the first fight. He fought very cautiously but the explosiveness, specially in the kicks, was there.

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by vivero on May 7, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did it really? It was only 3 month from his embarrassing outing against Coleman, and it didn’t even go past the first round. Was Chuck a good barometer for his recovery?

by John Nash on May 7, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

imo yes. While it lasted, Shogun really looked in great form. Can’t really discredit the guy for knocking Liddell out though I see what you are saying. I can also say that 9 months after the embarassing Coleman performance and 2 training camps, he should have been in “old Rua” form.

I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand

by vivero on May 7, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shogun- NIIIIIIICE legkick
Daley- because I’m as stupid as Koscheck if he tries to stand.
Kimbo- I don’t think he’s as dumb as Meathead acts.
Stephens- I want to see an uppercut that was telegraphed from when the fight was anounced
Coooooooo-te Co-te Co-te Co-te
Davis-….this is a snuff film
Hague-
Hendricks- I ain’t picking against a man that’s dumb/crazy enough to take 50 rounds of Ammo into an Airport
Yoshida- Joker is gettin put to sleep
Tom “Dan Severn” Lawlor
MacDonald- Jiu Jitsu

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by Damon O. on May 7, 2010 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Machida
Semtex (WAR!)
Kimbo (though it might be counted a double KO when they both keel over from exhaustion in the middle of the third).
Stout
Belcher

I’m praying for a Semtex KO, but I’ve resigned myself to the fact that Kos might just be too much for him. If he loses, I’m going to be rooting for Fitch for the first time in my life with the hopes of setting up the muay thai delight of Alves-Daley.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on May 7, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Machia – Karate
Koscheck – Using his goddamn brain.
Mitrione – Death KO
Belcher – George Wendt assisted punches.
Davis – Because it’s Goulet.
Hague – Because of the nickname my friend gave him at UFC 98 “The Inbred Logger”.
Hendricks – Fist Bullets.
Yoshida – Incessant Joe Rogan name mis-pronunciation
Filthy Tom Lawlor – Awesome
MacDonald – Because gingers don’t have souls.

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by Earl Montclair on May 7, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

R-U-A. – Shogun will not get knocked out, the Nogueira fight proves this..
Daley – Cmon Koscheck, just 30secs standing up.
Kimbo – what the hell..
Cote – really liked the guy after the Silva fight.
Stout. – decision.

I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand

by vivero on May 7, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Quick Picks

Machida
Koscheck
Kimbo
Stout
Belcher
Davis
Beltran
Hendricks
Lawlor
Yoshida
MacDonald

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K.F.I.S.T.F.
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by Gobroks on May 7, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Like any of you are actually interested in my picks, but I'll post them anyway:

Machida by TKO
Daley for the upset
Kimbo by decision (mainly because I like the guy… he has a very very real chance of getting KTFO though.)
Stephens by the upset KO. (Stout will want to pepper him to a decision, but I think Stephens can land few big bombs during that span)
Belcher via not having ring rust

Davis via a gimmie fight
Beltran via TKO
Hendricks easy
Lawlor easy
Yoshida grining one out.
Macdonald will probably win a close decision.

by Anton Tabuena on May 7, 2010 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

machida is the one who needs to adjust

first 3 round will be the same as the last fight (shogun strikes/lands and covers up) and then shogun finishes the fight in the 3rd, 4th or 5th round (the way he came out against rampage in pride)…if this turns into a war are you really going to bet against shogun?!?!?!….if this goes to the clinch are you going to bet against the muy thai guy?!?!…machida’s best chance is to pull a GSP and lay an pray (joke) (if he can keep shogun on the ground) ang hope the judges save him again

by oousty on May 8, 2010 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

can you smell lalalalala what the KOS....IS......COOKING!!!!!!!!!!

daley took a wrong turn and is now sitting at the wrong intersection of gabroney drive and know your role blvd…..and there is a stew cooking…the smell is all over the place….and daley is sniffing…wondering what it is…..kos is there with a pot…and a chef hat….

kos is gonna take that pot…stur it up….stur it some more…..then some more….close his eyes…take one last sniff….

and stur it one last time…

AND TAKE THAT POT AND SHOVE IT STRAIGHT UP DALEYS ROODY POO CANDY ASS….

SMELLLLLALALALALALLAALALA

DALEY….IS….WHAT….THE….KOS….ISSSSSSSSSS….COOKING….

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by HellaHectic on May 8, 2010 1:33 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Well done.

Now Kos just needs to learn to raise his eyebrown and bounce of the cage for the People’s Elbow.

by Razreshat on May 8, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

after all the talk everyone know machida gots this. i love it!

by tharocker on May 8, 2010 4:00 AM EDT reply actions  

If I hear another BE writer talk about Mitriones power I'm gonna blow an artery

The least you magnificent 7 can do is wait and see if he knocks out Kimbo before you say he has all this KO power. Not say this now just because he knocked out Big Glass Baby!

by ALL4MMA on May 8, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Man

Stephens is going to KO Stout. At least I hope so… ever since that fight with Wiman I’ve been wanting him to get knocked out. I’m sure he’s a great guy, and he seems pretty popular, but outside of a few performances he never looks that good to me.

Meh.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on May 8, 2010 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Ain’t happenin’.

Stout by superior technique.

by moonlapse88 on May 8, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

:)

:^)

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on May 11, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

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