Fedor Emelianenko Returns: Will Face Fabricio Werdum Live on Showtime in June
by Nick Thomas on May 4, 2010 12:53 PM EDT
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From the official Strikeforce press release:
After months of anticipation, the world's No. 1 heavyweight and pound-for-pound Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) fighter, Fedor "The Last Emperor" Emelianenko (31-1), will make his eagerly awaited return to the cage to face two-time Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu world champion and top-ranked superstar Fabricio "Vai Cavalo" Werdum (13-4) in a STRIKEFORCE and M-1 GLOBAL co-promoted event at HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif. on Saturday, June 26, live on SHOWTIME at 10 p.m. ET/PT.
The Fedor-Werdum match will headline an event which will feature up to five televised fights on SHOWTIME and several non-televised undercard bouts that will be announced in the coming weeks.
A special pre-sale ticket purchase opportunity for the event will take place for "STRIKEFORCE Insider" e-newsletter subscribers from 10 a.m. PT Monday, May 10, until 10 p.m. PT on Thursday, May 13.
Rumored card so far:
- Fedor Emelianenko vs. Fabricio Werdum
- Cung Le vs. Scott Smith
HT: strikeforce.com
Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum coverage
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that's why
he is amazing. his magical elf powers make his punches full of dyno-mite.
Nah Muffukaz...
Strikeforce ain’t gittin in no coffin! Let’s give ‘em props n support for being a legit alternative. I’m getting tired of hearing DFW’s ranting, shit-talking non-UFC fighters/promotions, old-school law suitin, corporate mirica bs, and exclusive contract monopoliz’n. Shit’s git’n old B.
Nick Diaz is the best p4p fighter in the world. Period. (I'm not a fighter though, so my opinion on this means very little.)
by OneManRiot on May 4, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too funny. Reminds me of the “Shizzolator”, something Snoop Dogg had made. It turned any website into Ebonics.
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by ANance on May 4, 2010 12:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm just shocked
I mean I realize that actually speaking poor english is just a result of laziness, but it’s gotta take effort to figure out how to type it out. And the best part is, you put in all that effort to type things out in a way that makes you look “street” and all you do is come off looking like a fool.
Well I am half black
the lower half.
Nick Diaz is the best p4p fighter in the world. Period. (I'm not a fighter though, so my opinion on this means very little.)
by OneManRiot on May 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'm not sure what the grounds would be,
…but can we get a ban for this guy?
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I'll look into it
Lemme get back to you on that
Nick Diaz is the best p4p fighter in the world. Period. (I'm not a fighter though, so my opinion on this means very little.)
It's a compeletly fine joke to me
especially considering the amount of dick measuring already going on in the MMA blogosphere lately
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Combined with the rest of his stuff?
Ugh.
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i just don’t get to say “dick measuring” with any sort of relevance these days, so..
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You don't have to tell us how much you miss dick measuring!
(See, that’s a zinger, kids.)
:-)
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you know especially, jemaleddin… you know especially…
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REAL.
TALK.
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Oh, Good, his mom showed up.
Try the dip.
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Great contribution.
We welcome your debate skills.
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not debating just letting you know that most of the stuff u say is negative and annoying but it’s all about free speech right, u just do your thing and ill throw in my two cents when i can
I'm all about positivity.
Real talk.
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Okay.
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Are you sure?
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most of the stuff you say is negative and annoying…
good luck
"Justice is the whim of a judge, check his chest density
It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
-Sage Francis
Man, somebody developed a copy and paste with autocorrect. SWEET.
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You know what? I think you may be onto something. I was just thinking of Werdum Arlovski. Now hmm possibly Werdum outpoints Fedor on the feet and manages not to get knocked out. I don’t see Fedor outpointing hardly anyone on the feet for 3 rounds. Sure Fedor can knock out anyone but let’s say he doesn’t?
Then Fedor doesn’t have success standing decides to take him down. Werdum is a sick sick JJ guy maybe he does enough to survive?
I mean it is not likely but shit Werdum is a top 10 HW has serious skills even though he isn’t seen as dangerous or a monster is no joke. This might turn out like this ..
His soul, his first born son, and all the ice cream in his fridge.
by ufc4 on May 4, 2010 11:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
and all the ice cream in his fridge
LOL, that was hilarious
He has to call the event M-1 Global/ Strikeforce present:
It’s ironic that this is on a Showtime card. If M-1 Global wanted to get any traction for their brand CBS would have been a better audience to expose their product too.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
I'm SHOCKED by this statement!
How dare you suggest that M-1 Global, the premiere international fight organization, would not have chose the ideal strategy?!? Are you unaware of their unprecedented reach and scope? Their world-class production team? Their huge stable of fighters (not actually plural, but it’s a big stable)?!?
Yeah, me either.
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by jemaleddin on May 4, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
love it^^^ dripping with sarcasm.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
My guess is:
a) They have less revenue to split this way…
b) M-1 wants more of their fighters on the card and the rest are barely worthy of a Challengers Series event.
c) CBS buture is still unknown
I’ve heard you are absolutely correct on point b…..
Lucio Linhares was supposed to be one of the toughest guys to come from M1 to the UFC, and he quickly lost 2 and got cut.
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
They should never have cut Wing Chun man.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Why every heavyweight in Strikeforce is a superstar? First Rogers, now Werdum.
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Don't forget Lashley and Herschel Walker
by ufc4 on May 4, 2010 11:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lashley is not a superstar, he’s a former WWE champion
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Well…to be fair Walker probably is the biggest “superstar” they have given that it doesn’t mean talented.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 4, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
he’s a superstar in the football world and a superstar athlete, i am a huge fan of martial arts and the use of technique that is refined over years and years of training but someone like herschel will always have my attention when he’s fighting
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by Anthony Pace on May 4, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
by Damon O. on May 4, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder how many other people know where this gif is from
"Justice is the whim of a judge, check his chest density
It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
-Sage Francis
You know who else is a superstar in MMA by those criteria?
Spencer Pratt.
Real talk.
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That's not true.
Spencer Pratt might be the one celebrity that has somehow managed to bring less attention to everything he is involved with. People will consciously avoid things he is associated with.
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Don't blame Spencer.
Blame the flesh-colored beard.
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Werdum is a star
Especially if you are a bjj mark such as myself.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on May 4, 2010 11:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i saw him chillin at the 2009 Pan Ams and was kinda star struck myself, dude is an intimadating lookin mo fo
I was kinda star struck when i met Marcelo Garcia at GQ
He is not intimidating, and he seemed super nice.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on May 4, 2010 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fedor keepin it real with the sweater of absolute victory.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on May 4, 2010 11:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
I cannot possibly rec this highly enough.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re RIGHT! Epic fail; so consumed was I by the sweater of victory! The problem has been remedied.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Ohhhhh SNAPS!
Rec
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on May 4, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
by Damon O. on May 4, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
ROFLMFAO!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on May 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
What we need is Fedor's head on Courage Wolf's background...
…with the hat and earrings.
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He wouldn’t last ten minutes in Chael Sonnen’s neighborhood.
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by Neil Manich on May 4, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
They really shot themselves in the foot on this one.. IMO
Fedor should have been on CBS.. the Shields/Hendo fight could have been a co-main..
They were supposed to use CBS as the platform to build from.. And force the cross over to Showtime and PPV..
Doesn’t make sense unless their CBS deal is on rocky ground.. They should look to put Fedor back on CBS and try to make amends for their last show…
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
Agreed
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on May 4, 2010 11:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and if fedor loses....
it should be a rule that unless you are in the octagon fighting you can’t be number 1
by Dr Tyronious on May 4, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
This is an epic fail on Strikeforce and M-1 Global's part.
MMAuthority is right. That card would have been much better. M-1 Global gains nothing in the North American MMA market with this. So, is this card going to be headlined by Fedor and feature 4-5 M-1 Global up and coming fighters? How about the members of Fedor’s Red Devil fight Club? I am not the smartest guy, but, Ray Charles could see the writing on the wall for Strikeforce.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
Glad this is finally happening, but I don’t see how being on Showtime can make M1 really happy.
I would love to be a fly in the wall during these negotiations because it just seems crazy to me.
This was my first thought. Fedor gets seen by, at best, 20% of the audience he’d be seen by on CBS? And they went along with this?
http://www.twitter.com/TB_Money
CBS drew what, 5 million to watch him? And Showtime has the ability to draw a million with him on a card. That’s why I went with 20%.
http://www.twitter.com/TB_Money
Actually the fight peaked below the Bisping/Hamill fight on Spike
by Mat Parker 116 on May 4, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hamill—- 5.475 million viewers
by Mat Parker 116 on May 4, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure what that has to do with anything though. I didn’t say anything about what had higher ratings. All I was that Fedor drew 5 million for his last fight.
http://www.twitter.com/TB_Money
Showtime will never pull 1 million viewers for a SF card..
It might peak with the high hundreds of thousands.. But I don’t think it’s going to pull 1 million viewers on a Fedor fight alone..
Gina Carano has been their biggest draw and they topped out with less than 875K viewers at a peak time..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
You really think
An 11% viewership increase isn’t possible with Fedor? A million’s not outta the question at all.
http://www.twitter.com/TB_Money
I was about to cancel showtime, now I will not.
From now on whatever event I am planning will be know as the ‘Bas Rutten Invitational ____’
I don't believe so.. But Here's The Reason Why..
Gina is a star in the way that Kimbo is a star.. Sure people know who Fedor is.. But he has never had “star quality”.. He doesn’t speak fluent English and his translation is poor. Sure he is stoic and humble.. But his only platform for exposure has been centered around fighting..
It takes more than a fight to incite a general audience to follow.. It takes a certain look, certain appeal, certain style, and most importantly it takes charm and charisma.. Something Fedor lacks at conveying properly..
Gina is a really attractive young woman.. She had the look.. She has the appeal because she was a “total package”.. someone with the looks, and the substance.. She had the hollywood “it” factor.. Playboy wanted her, she was on AG.. She was put in the forefront of public viewing on a regular basis and they bought it..
Kimbo is a Youtube sensation.. He comes with a built in fanbase, much in the way that Lesnar did.. They had exposure to mainstream media in America beyond fighting.. They have charisma and charm that draws the public interest.. It goes beyond just being a great fighter..
Kimbo is a great talker.. He’s good at the center of attention.. It’s part of his charisma.. Fedor is not..
Do I think it will draw a million viewers ?? No
Does that mean I’m right ?? No
I would be surprised if it did considering that Gina couldn’t do it, and she’s a much bigger proven commodity for mainstream attention that Fedor..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
Fair enough
But people said all this before Fedor fought Rogers, and the rating they got for his fight was pretty damn good. Not the highest ever, but pretty good. He’s obviously a much bigger draw than Hendo, who even people like smoogy were predicting could match or surpass the Fedor rating. I think Fedor’s mystique is really undervalued.
http://www.twitter.com/TB_Money
I'd agree to a certain extent..
What we do know for sure though is..
No one has really came out of “pocket” to support Fedor.. His PPV buy rates are abysmal; in terms of star power and draw..
It’s easy to get people to watch for “free”.. It’s much harder to get them to pay.. I just think the SF business model is completely flawed and it’s evident from previous models centered in the same fashion from previous promotions..
In business you want to put your best foot forward and come out strong.. They seem to be going in reverse at this point.. IMO
Showtime is limiting the ability to build, as they claim to want to do.. How are they going to build to a PPV when they can’t expose their product properly ? Even “if” … and thats a big IF, SF pulls 1 million peak on Showtime.. Spike does more than that with TUF.. It’s not great exposure for them to build from.. If they have CBS.. use it.. Make CBS an offer they can’t refuse and put Fedor on the bigger stage, otherwise.. it’s all a wasted effort..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
I wouldn’t call the Affliction buyrates “abysmal”, condsidering that no one else has drawn a rating that high other than Zuffa. They matched your average North American buyrate for a smaller WWE PPV. That’s not too bad.
I do completely agree that Fedor should be on CBS though. It’s a no-brainer.
http://www.twitter.com/TB_Money
And before anyone jumps on me
I was not complimenting Affliction on their business model or anything like that at all, and am not going to defend them. I just said the PPV buys they got weren’t abysmal.
/disclaimer
http://www.twitter.com/TB_Money
When considering "who and what" you've got for product placement..
I’d say they were abysmal..
Fedor is the supposed “best” of the best.. He’s the top dog of the sport.. That alone should be enough to warrant high end market value..
Mayweather is boxings top dog.. He gets buy rates that surpass even Zuffa brand cards.. But he’s also charismatic and has proper marketing to support that..
Fedor has been fighting for 10 years.. He’s the consensus number one in the sport.. But Lesnar is the sports biggest draw ??
It’s because Fedor doesn’t have “star power”.. There are a handful of people in the sport that are bigger draws than Fedor.. Liddell, Couture, GSP, Penn, Rampage, Lesnar, etc..
If you have the best that your sport has to offer, then it’s your job as a promotion to get that message to the public and get your product placement in the market.. They were abysmal in every sense of the word considering what they had at that time.. Not just Affliction either.. EliteXC is just as guilty because they were the originators of the Kimbo/Carano train… They failed to capitalize on what they had…
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
Even "if" … and thats a big IF, SF pulls 1 million peak on Showtime.. Spike does more than that with TUF..
A subscriber to a premium channel brings in more money than a subscriber to a basic channels does. It is definitely worth seeing what kind of number Fedor can do on Showtime. If he can drive enough numbers he may be more profitable for every one on Showtime than network.
The upside is if they can make it work on Showtime they have more control over the production because they don’t need 1000 commercials to pay for it and they don’t have the FCC hassles and they don’t need to run the show on tape delay out west and can start sooner, they don’t have to get out of the way of the news etc, etc, etc. In that case then they also will take less shit and abuse from the hardcore fans.
Only if you're going off of "subscription" pricing..
TV and radio make their money from advertisers.. The better the channel, the bigger the channel.. The bigger the channel.. the more advertisers want to spend on your station to reach their target market..
The revenue is the exactly the same for SF on Showtime or CBS.. It’s the same fee.. Showtime and CBS are the ones that stand for profit by the ratings.. not SF.. The better the ratings, the better the incentive to sell advertising in those time slots on those channels..CBS owns Showtime.. so they get the end dollar regardless.
SF has zero control over production.. SF doesn’t house it’s own production staff.. Therefore, Showtime/CBS has total control over production..
So in closing, broadcast TV brings in WAY more money than any subscription based TV station. The bottom line is the money to be made on advertising.. That’s the only thing the network is concerned with.. That’s how they make their money.. CBS makes more on their broadcast station than they do in a subscription based station.. Advertisers aren’t throwing big bucks for Showtime commercials.. Bet your bottom dollar they do for prime-time network TV time slots though..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
yeah, but ...
having the ability to draw a million doesn’t mean Showtime will. if they do 500,000 views, it’ll be a success.
My point exactly^^^^
This says more about the CBS/Strikeforce relationship then anything else.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
This was my first thought. Fedor gets seen by, at best, 20% of the audience he’d be seen by on CBS?
You guys are forgetting about the international market which is probably more important to M1 right now than the US market.
The good thing about international ratings..
They’re all subjective.. Because who’s to say otherwise ?? Who is going to spend that much time fact checking the international ratings for each country or outlet ??
I wouldn’t buy into that too much from the M-1 standpoint.. As Phildo mentioned:
If they were doing that great internationally, what’s the need for SF, SHowtime, CBS or the American market ??
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
They are hoping that the international market will grow and they’ll have the first mover advantage. In the meantime, they need the cold cash from a US deal
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The proof is in the pudding..
The only “real” stable market is in the US at this point..
Like I said.. the international ratings mean jack because they’re subjective at best and if they were as good as M-1 has claimed, there would be no need to enter into a co-promotion, or outside market that goes against your initial market strategy..
Or so they claim… lol
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
International ratings are done for the same reason that the UFC is exploring a China show and Google tried to go there as well; companies that just sit on their existing markets lose in the long run (US auto and electronics manufacturers, anyone?). The international ratings mean a lot more than jack because of what they could mean in the future, but at this point, they have to be balanced with real cash flow, which comes primarily from the United States.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Google tried to do business in China. Not sure how else to explain that. The UFC wants to go into China. http://mmafrenzy.com/13883/dana-white-talks-ufc-in-afghanistan-and-china-tuf-in-abu-dhabi-talks-with-fedor-and-more/
Hope that helps.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Two problems with your assessment ..
The UFC wants to expand because it has built a monopoly on the market share and cornered the market. It’s now a feasable venture for them to expand, because they own the majority of the market and it makes the pathway to expansion that much easier when you have no “real” competition fighting for new market share..
Sure every good business needs to expand and continue to grow and rebuild itself throughout the market to stay relevant and competitive with newer trends.
Lot’s of people want to do business in China for various reasons. One, China is the worlds largest population. To get your foot in the door on the Chinese market, means exposing your product or business to the largest population on the entire planet.. If you even grab 10% of their business, you’re going to profit like you would with 40% of the American share.. It’s a no brainer..
I’m not disputing international ratings or their true value..
I think that’s where you’ve missed the point here.. I’m disputing M-1’s claim of what their “international ratings” truly are.. They make it sound like M-1 and Fedor are exposed to tens of millions through the “international market”.. If that was truly the case, then why do they need to co-promote with an American based company ?? I’ll tell you why.. because they’re full of shit.. Their international ratings claim means jack..
Men lie.. women lie.. numbers don’t lie…
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
good point MMAuthority.
Outside of Russia and Japan, Fedor really doesnt have the draw M-1 Global claims. It is feasible that in Russia and Japan Fedor has 10 million fans, hell in Russia he probably has more then that. My point is, Strikeforce dropped the ball with Fedor. He would have been more valuable to them if they were in the position that UFC is in. Since the marketshare is UFC’s in America, Strikeforce severly overestimated Fedors marketability in the US. Moreover, Kimbo has drawn bigger CBS ratings, and would have been cheaper then Fedor. Strikeforce are no closer to doing a PPV then before Fedor. Then, Strikeforce is Strikeforced to do a Co-Promotion and feature M-1 Global fighters that may or may not be worthy of card space. I wouldnt want Cokers headaches right now.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
he’s had plenty of layoffs before. but it’s pointless discussing what i think will happen in this fight, there are fedor doubters and fedor defenders, and the fedor defenders cant imagine a world where their god loses.
by MicahW
Um, maybe because he’s only ever lost on a technicality? Say what you will, but at least when he faces a striker he knocks them out instead of sitting on them for five rounds.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you’re exactly the type of person MicahW was referring to. And I don’t see why you felt the need to put down a fighter no one was talking about in relation to this topic.
by Worldisart on May 4, 2010 12:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I brought it up because I was unsure as to why this was even posted. Will he lose eventually? Sure, and hopefully to a worthy foe. But why even mention this? It wasn’t in response to anything, it wasn’t to prove any point. It was merely a strange, lunging attempt to insult people and start a flame war, and I responded in kind.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
If he doesn’t, why use that quote? Why not make his point in a more reasoned way, as you have?
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i believe sometimes early comments can get deleted if the post gets updated. or maybe if it was a fanpost before it was frontpage. not exactly sure, but sometimes Nick posts comments that somehow didn’t transfer to the final post. he’s not using some else’s comment to make a point, just re-posting it.
anyone know if thats how it works? i’ve never been sure
He posts comments that don’t transfer over, especially when it’s a fanshot turned story. Or this is a post he saw in a related story and decided to post it here, could be either of those.
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Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. So it was designed to start a flame war, just from Micah, not Nick.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
this was the most interesting part of the press release.
For M-1 GLOBAL’s Fedor, it is a means of gaining revenge three and a half years after the 32-year-old Werdum defeated Fedor’s brother Aleksander Emelianenko, via submission (arm triangle choke) in the first round (3:24) of a bout in Rotterdam, Holland, on Nov. 12, 2006.
haha
lmao. M-1 Global/Strikeforce present: Fedor's Revenge.
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If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
Yes!!!!
It was about time and I am glad that they came to an agreement for this fight. Fedor needed to fight again and Strikeforce needed Fedor.
There is no reasons to not put this fight when all parts have something to gain from it.
Hey Orcus
What is the transaction on werdums nick name?
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on May 4, 2010 11:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's the english expression "Work-Horse"
And yeah, it means he’s gotta great gas tank and works hard
by Body Triangle on May 4, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks buddy good to know.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on May 4, 2010 12:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What?
This card needs to be on CBS strikeforce is not going to make any gains on showtime to rebuild its damaged image. Also this card is already way better for the casual fan then their last venture onto cbs
CBS show isnt till fall and i dont wanna wait that long so showtime will have to do, this guy should be fighting 3-4 times a year and stop teasing fans
3-4 times a year?
Are you crazy? he’s in his mid-30’s, been in over 30 professional fights, and seems to bust his hands every time he swings I’ll be happy with two fights a year.
true he does hurt his hand alot since he initially broke it on goodridges head, im just a dreamer i guess
I know. I’d love to see him fight everyone too, if only just because he’s only got a few years left. But champs can afford to sit on their belts with injuries or whatever. GSP, Silva, Lesnar – Fedor’s fought as many as they have. Just wish we could get more.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if Overeem and Fedor both win, a fight between the two of them in the fall would be pretty epic.
by Polyhedron on May 4, 2010 12:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fedor vs Overeem next ?
If Overeem passes Rogers (which won’t be easy at all) then despite’s Fedor’s management public statements – the best fight for him is definitely Overeem . It’s going to be interesting to see how this folds , first Overeem vs Rogers and we’ll see .
If Overeem crushes Rogers it’s definitely going to be scary for Fedor to take him . Then we might see Fedor fighting people like Barnett in Japan and maybe even escaping his Strikeforce contract indefinitely with some excuse .
Nah, Fedor vs. Rogers for the rematch!
You know how Fedor doesn’t like to have too many meaningful fights in a row.
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I dunno… apparently dominant victories over one-dimensional, barely-qualified strikers elevate your p4p status these days, so he might as well do it again.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
After this, he’ll have the one-dimensional grappler and the one-dimensional striker that he needs to be p4p world number 1, which neither of his rivals have, so hey.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
huh
"Justice is the whim of a judge, check his chest density
It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
-Sage Francis
I was just saying that at this rate, he’ll have beaten a one-dimensional striker with limited ground experience recently and a one-dimensional grappler with limited standup. His chief rivals for the number one P4P title have beaten either one or the other, but not both. Since that has qualified his rivals for “god mode” status, he should just stay on this path and revel in the accolades.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, has hell frozen over?
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at least us west coasters get to watch it live instead of the 3 hr CBS delay.
by naturalist on May 4, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Too late.
M-1 fucked Strikeforce over big time by not allowing this fight to happen in CBS in April. If Strikeforce ends up losing their CBS deal, it will be mostly their fault.
by Polyhedron on May 4, 2010 11:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Strikeforce got the CBS deal
largly due to Fedor’s presence.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Rumored card so far
Fedor vs. Werdum:
Smith vs. Le 2
Rockhold vs. Ammoussou
Kennedy vs.
Kennedy vs. Oswald
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
that's actually a hell of a card
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 4, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You're stoked by Smith vs. Le?
You sir, are easily amused. :-)
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well everytime smith fights its usually a war and smith has very entertaining technique and usually KO’s his opponents so yeah im stoked for this fight too
I hope you meant that Le has very entertaining technique.
And honestly, watching a UFC washout fight a 37-year-old actor with a total of zero wins over real MMA competition may be exciting on some level, but I don’t get it.
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yeah i meant le
but like i said smith and le might be at the top of the MW division but any fight there involved in is going to be entertaining unlike those top 10 guys like silva and maia
rankings dont mean u will be entertained, this is a sport but in order for it to survive people have to want to watch it
Did you see the first fight? It was tremendous fun. I’m not saying it’s going to determine a top 5 MW or anything, just that I enjoyed the first and doubt that the rematch will suddenly be boring. Rockhold is a hell of a talent and that would be a big step up for him. Kennedy is a good watch. Fedor/Overeem is solid…
I don’t see any reason to not enjoy the show.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 4, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw the Le/Smith fight and was unimpressed. I honestly don’t get the attraction. Seeing it again but with Cung Le even older doesn’t make sense to me.
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Le has kicks that make a cool woooosh-thud sound
And Smith is a tough muhfugger
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by John Nash on May 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
IFL?
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by Matthew Roth on May 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd.
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Fedor/Overeem would be solid
If that was the fight that was scheduled. Unfortunately it isn’t.
by ufc4 on May 4, 2010 2:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fedor Overeem would be sweet, Fedoe/Werdum is solid.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Then how awesome would Fedor/Dos Santos be?
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Transcendent. Fedor vs. any of the UFC’s big four would be great, but I’ll take what I can get. It’s a testimony to the division’s depth that we don’t have to see Nate Marquardt considered a top contender.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder... Outside Fedor...
…how many of SF’s fighters – regardless of weight – could beat Nate Marquardt?
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Beats me. I don’t do MMATH too much. But seeing as how Marquardt does against smother artists, he probably wouldn’t fare well against Jake Shields or King Mo or a motivated Soukoudjou. Seeing as how he does against elite strikers, he probably wouldn’t do well against Mousasi. Seeing as how he does against other tough-guy brawlers with a lot of heart, he’d probably do just what he does at the UFC level, which is be relevant because the division is full of tough-guy brawlers who are roughly his size.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
motivated Soukoudjou
That’s like saying he wouldn’t do well against a nine-armed Josh Thomson.
by TLow on May 4, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Shields, Jacare, Henderson, Overeem, Arlovski, Rogers, Werdum, King Mo, Mousassi, maybe Manhoef, and I’d like to see him fight Diaz at a catchweight. That’s a few off the top of my head.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Fedor/Overeem would be solid
Coker said right after they originally signed Fedor that he was building towards that as their first PPV. They wanted people to get to know Fedor before doing that fight. Whether that PPV is still in the future I don’t know. But Fedor and Overeem will be happening either in Strikeforce or Dream and most likely before the end of the year. Both organizations seem to be building towards it.
haha...
yeah, sorry. You know what I meant though. But fuck you for catching my shit.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 4, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Kennedy vs. Cyborg Santos
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by Anthony Pace on May 4, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
yes the male cyborg lives in the shadow of the female cyborg, if you guys like garcia vs the k zombie then you should check out evangelista cyborg’s fight against manhoef in cage rage, fuckin epic
Agreed. Every time I see it I’m stunned no one suffered a heart attack.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cage Rage announcers had heart attacks
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by Anthony Pace on May 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I keep forgetting there's a female cyborg.
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Hopefully Cung has been working on his ground 'n pound.
Cause he looked pretty bad last time. He should have put Smith away multiple times. Personally, I hope Smith KO’s him again.
*looks at photo...
Uhhh, why is my plummer fighting on Showtime?
:-P
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
Co-Promotion.
in a STRIKEFORCE and M-1 GLOBAL co-promoted event
I wonder which party backed down, SF or M1?
by higgledy-piggledy on May 4, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
Big Deal
Rogers was a bigger challenge than Werdum. At least he was the 1st undefeated fighter Fedor ever faced. And if he doesn’t at least take him out with a big hook or uppercut in the 1st round then he should be ranked below Junior Dos Santos IMO.
Oh, and no CBS?….. laaaaammmmmeeeee!
So Anderson Silva should be ranked below Marquardt?
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, if he kept winning
JDS is undefeated.
The next CBS event is scheduled for late summer/fall.
Do you really wanna wait that long to see Fedor?
If Fedor and Overeem both win, that will be the CBS card in the fall.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Strikeforce is planning a year end PPV
and are building Fedor vs. Overeem for that. I don’t expect them to give away their money fight to CBS.
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This is the first I’ve heard of this. It makes sense, but it also means that they’ve completely given up on CBS if that’s the case.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
"Slow down son."
How about Rogers & Verdum? Isn’t it a little too early to be planning Fedor vs Overeem when neither have won their upcoming fight yet?
by higgledy-piggledy on May 4, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Roger vs. Werdum will be on Showtime.
But the plan is Fedor vs Overeem for a year end ppv. The original plan probably also included Hendo vs Mousasi for the LHW title so be careful what you plan for. Anyways, Fedor losing defintely puts a damper on the ppv, but a Rogers win wouldn’t be that bad. And if Rogers and Arlovski both win you could schedule a rematch between the two with the winner getting Fedor (there now they have a backup plan).
I will not be watching this show because I am tired of this Co-Promotion BS. Now if Fedor fights Overeem… Yeah I’ll watch that. Would love to see Overeem leg kick him and just shatter his leg. That would solve this mess quick. SF still has a super star (that looks like a super hero and not a plumber) and no more Co-Promotion BS.
Meh
I’m just going to enjoy watching Fedor while I can.
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Third
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on May 4, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Fourth
"Justice is the whim of a judge, check his chest density
It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
-Sage Francis
I wish Tina Fey’s fifteen minutes weren’t over already…I miss her…
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
30 Rock buddy
"Justice is the whim of a judge, check his chest density
It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
-Sage Francis
Coming soon to a Stuff White People Like entry near you!
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
30 Rock is a Top-3 funniest show on TV right now
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
agreed…not sure what that dude is talking about..
"Justice is the whim of a judge, check his chest density
It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
-Sage Francis
I just meant it has a ton of critical acclaim, disappointing to terrible ratings and a small but devoted cult following that keeps it alive by buying DVDs.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a funny show. Just like AD, it won’t ever really die because it has actual good jokes and uses the best sight gags since early seasons of The Office (US version).
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
Nono, I’m not saying it’s not funny. I’m just saying that Tina’s run at a nationally prominent level went with Sarah Palin. She’s now a niche player again like Kathy Griffin or the Wayans brothers, which is too bad because she has more talent.
Funny you should bring up AD…
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/29/38-arrested-development/
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm half Puerto Rican!
half white :(
But I think her last thing, Date Night, or whatever was fairly successful…
IDK, I think she’s still on her big run. And please, don’t compare her to the Wayans brothers!
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
You’re right. I regret that already. You hear that, Tina? Avoid Wayansdom!! For the good of us all!
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, Tina Fey is a very talented writter above all else...
She isn’t just in the shows, she writes them. She will alays have work unless she breaks her funny bone.
yep, comparing her to Kathy Griffin is fail.
"Justice is the whim of a judge, check his chest density
It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
-Sage Francis
Not in terms of comedy. In terms of relevance.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
She was the lead writer on SNL when it was terrible, Baby Mama was ameture hour, 30 Rock gets by by having a great cast, although I admit Mean Girls was well written. As a writer she is way overrated. She’s basically the Shinya Aoki of comedy.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
I don't watch 30 Rock
Does she cry at the end of every episode?
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dude, that era of SNL was so much better than the current one with Seth Myers…
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No, just no. Bill Hader has revitalized that show. If you are really going to argue that the Jimmy Fallon era was better than the current iteration, I’m going to start questioning your Ivy Leage education.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Hader is excellent, but completely under-utilized
Fred Armisen is terrible, especially his Obama. Bobby Moynahan is decent, but pretty much every other person is terrible. I haven’t thought Keenan Thompson was funny since “Good Burger”.
Celebrity Jeopardy, More Cowbell, Debbie Downer, all classics. Plus, Rachel Dratch has to be one of the least appreciated talents in comedy today.
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
I forgot to add
Will Forte just frightens me, and the only good MacGruber sketch was the first one. The movie looks atrocious
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that's why it's called Batman Forever
by Body Triangle on May 4, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah...
Most of his movies are… (I hope actor bashing is okay on here)
Almost everything he’s done has been a steaming pile of crap except for aselect few where he was able to ride discretely under the radar because of an excellent cast…
Top Gun was alright
True Romance is a personal fav
Tombstone and Heat are classics
TOP GUN? JUST ALRIGHT?
Yeah you’re right but the mythos behind the movie is fantastic. a lot of good one liners
by Body Triangle on May 4, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
True Romance is in my top 5
have you seen The Salton Sea?
its pretty solid.
"Justice is the whim of a judge, check his chest density
It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
-Sage Francis
dude!!!
Doc Holiday made Tombstone!!! That’s one of my favorite flicks.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on May 4, 2010 6:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shit
http://www.hulu.com/watch/4109/saturday-night-live-colonel-angus-comes-home
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Hater or not...
I have heard lots of members of th cast and crew credit mostly her and Will for the boom they had in the late 1990’s – early 2000’s
They get a lot of the credit, deservedly so, but dammit if Rachel Dratch isn’t underappreciated!
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
I’ll just post this here, Debbie Downer and Rachel Dratch as a person are abominations. You probably like the Gilly sketches as well.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
You've lost your mind.
I’ll take Rachel Dratch over Kristen Wiig seven days of the week, twice on Sunday.
Terrible Kristen Wiig characters:
Target Lady
Aunt Linda
Passive Penelope
The only thing she’s ever done to make me laugh was that creepy aroused look she gave in “Dick in a Box”, which isn’t even a real SNL sketch
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The only good eps for the past four years
have been those hosted by either Jon Hamm or Justin Timberlake (don’t hate on JT, he’s my boy)
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You are silly as proven by multiple choice...
a) If you have watched every episode over the last four years despite enjoying only four of them… Then you are silly.
b) If you haven’t watched ever episode for the last for years and still made that comment… Then you are silly.
I won't dispute the fact that I am silly
I’ve watched probably 80% of the episodes, first by DVR and then when I got to college I kill hangovers with 3 hour-long Hulu binges on Sunday.
But hardly any episodes have I watched in their entirety, just Weekend Update, the increasingly lame Digital Shorts, and a few other skits until I tire
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
Puched while eating is still one of my favs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILvkEHQPHHg
Or if you go really odl school… Fish Heads…
Love punched in the face
That dude is hilarious. If you haven’t seen Hot Rod yet, for the love of god go out and…i mean click somewhere else and dl it
by Body Triangle on May 4, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hot Rod is awesome!
Don’t rworry. I’ve already purchased the movie.
Hot Rod, Strange Wilderness and Strangers With Candy are my thre favorite comedies as of late…
Only White people like funny comedy and Tracy Morgan?
:S
Everybody who has ever worked with Tina (which is lots of people) from the days she was a writter at SNL has said she is one of the funniest people they’ve met…
Plus I don’t care what anyone says… Mean Girls was funny…
I see this and I think
Who pooted?
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hey your that famous commenter i read about on cagepotato!!!
by 1inchpunch on May 4, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
We’re a part of history by commenting in his thread!
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i do feel special that i replied to his comment oh man wait till they guys at the academy hear about this
Guess who doesnt care?
Not this guy
myspace.com/tbma
I know plenty of stupid, butt hurt people but FloydJoyMayweatherSR takes it to a whole new level lol. Aslo, bro.
BOODAN-BA-BOODAN BOODAN WIDDLY-WOMMMMMMMMMMMM
and you contradicted yourself.
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Truth
I care enough to post, but will i watch? Probably not
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I know plenty of stupid, butt hurt people but FloydJoyMayweatherSR takes it to a whole new level lol. Aslo, bro.
I call it, “I Want to Rock your Body”, and then in parenthesis, “’Till the Break of Dawn”
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
o baby
That’s like poetry
myspace.com/tbma
I know plenty of stupid, butt hurt people but FloydJoyMayweatherSR takes it to a whole new level lol. Aslo, bro.
by II SMASH II on May 4, 2010 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope m-1 got what they wanted
because they may have sunk any chance a Strikeforce/M-1 ppv has to sell. They lost the chance to promote Fedor on CBS by sitting out the April card (especially when the hype around his KO of Rogers was still lingering). And since that CBS card bombed (without Fedor) they might have lost the opportunity to have a network broadcast with Herchel and Gina a few weeks before any ppv. A two hour informercial for a ppv on CBS is pretty powerful marketing tool. Realistically the CBS fiasco could have cost them 100,000-200,000 ppv buys.
really?
I was thinking their PPV wouldn’t do more than 200k-250k, max…
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
I’d go a little higher than that, but you’re right. Definitely, at best, a low-end UFC card.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Right now I would guess ppv a Fedor vs Overeem does 100,00-175,00 max. Now if everything went their way – Fedor destroys Werdum and Hendo kos Shields in the first, then you’d be looking at Fedor vs Overeem, King Mo vs Hendo ppv in the fall with a CBS Saturday Night Fights on two weeks before with Herchel and Gina hyping the hell out of it. 250,00-300,000 wouldn’t be out of the question.
I think they would really have to stack the card with everything they have to get anywhere 250,000. I’m talking Henderson, Mousasi, King Mo, Melendez, Shields, Diaz, Le, Overeem. Even with all their top fighters they have to borrow fighters from Dream to create matchups. PPV doesnt seem like a viable option for them any time soon because they are putting the only good matchups they have on CBS.
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It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
-Sage Francis
by DamnSevern on May 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Will i watch the fight on Showtime? yes
Do i really want to see him fight Werdum? No
Will he win? Probably
Will he fight again this year if he wins? Probably Not
Do we know who you really are now?
Of course we do… Frank Mir.
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by pdl on May 4, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do I get chicks? Yes.
Do I play lacrosse? Yes.
Do I get chicks because I play lacrosse? No. I’m very affluent.
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
Lacrosse is not a sport; lacrosse is a faggoty college activity. I don’t care how rough it is, anytime you’re running around a field, waving a stick with a little net on the end of it, you’re engaged in a faggoty college activity. Period.
Lacrosse is the National sport od Canada...
Even though it isn’t our favorite sport (not in the top 5)…
It isn’t a wussy sport though. Ficked fights…
obviously you're not familiar with Brantford Winstonworth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqg01Nk3SYI
half my college friends are like this, we had a Lax dynasty in the late-90s
Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
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Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on May 4, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira is to Jason Brilz as Fedor Emelianenko is to ___________________.
a.) Fabricio Werdum. :)
b.) Fabricio Werdum. :)
c.) Fabricio Werdum. :)
d.) Fabricio Werdum. :)
Actually, Werdum and Big Nog are pretty much the same person. Brilz, though, yeeesh. Good thing the UFC can sell 300,000 PPV just by putting UFC in the title…
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just saying that Werdum is several parsecs better than Jason Brilz. He’s a lot closer to younger Big Nog, which Atlas pointed out.
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Younger big Nog?
What has thou been smoking?
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
If you like it, you should put a rec on it.
Um, the younger version of Big Nog from the Pride and Rings Days. Antonio Rodrigo “Minotauro” Nogueira. Dominant submissions and endurance, good standup with some knockout power but not much. Is that clearer?
by Tim the Enchanter on May 4, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes indeed.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
If you like it, you should put a rec on it.
Close but Brilz is gonna be in a coma
Werdum will just have his face smashed.
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by Matthew Roth on May 4, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
To be completely honest, Fedor vs anyone but the UFC’s big 4 is a letdown. At least Werdum is a credible opponent, if not really a threat in any particular area.
My rational brain sez Fedor by TKO, R2, but the purple squirrel who lives on my shoulder sez Werdum by decision.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
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