Demian Maia vs. Alan Belcher in the Works for UFC Fight Night 22
by Nick Thomas on May 28, 2010 10:42 AM EDT
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According to mmafighting.com:
A middleweight match-up between Alan Belcher and Demian Maia has been verbally agreed to by both fighters for Ultimate Fight Night 22 on Sept. 15, MMA Fighting has learned from sources close to the event.After Maia, Alan Belcher wants Vitor Belfort:
"Right now we're pushing for Demian Maia because I think [the UFC] has plans for everyone else. I think that's an interesting fight. That will help me solidify the No. 1 contender spot. I think the timing would be right for me to fight [Vitor] Belfort after that." -- (Alan Belcher on mmajunkie radio)
Demian Maia (12-2)
Loss Anderson Silva - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 112
Win Dan Miller - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 109
Loss Nate Marquardt - KO (Punch) UFC 102
Win Chael Sonnen - Submission (Triangle Choke) UFC 95
Alan "The Talent" Belcher (16-6)UFC Fight Night 22 coverage
Win Patrick Cote - Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) UFC 113
Win Wilson Gouveia - TKO (Punches) UFC 107
Loss Yoshihiro Akiyama - Decision (Split) UFC 100
Win Denis Kang - Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFC 93
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Yeah bitching seems to work. They really are lessening. I like Belcher in this one actually. Although his leg kicks could get him taken down and submitted reeeeal quick.
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- Carwin talked his way into a match against Brock Lesnar with his post-UFC 100 comments.
- BJ Penn talked up a match against GSP
- Notably, Fitch didn’t talk up his title match against GSP but was awarded the match because he simply kept winning match after match. 8 consecutive UFC wins before getting love from the top brass of the UFC.
- Maynard’s strategy of winning quietly just doesn’t work. Not to mention that defeating the guy that skipped him AND having a bad fight against Nate Diaz did’nt help at all.
So true, you have to talk, say something, anything.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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"I'm not afraid to say it: I'm not a brawler, and I'm not a coward. I'm not going to trade punch one-for-one with a guy. I'm going to hit the guy and not get hit. That's a smart way to fight." - GSP
by VeeisAnimated on May 28, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually Carwin was the fight fans were asking Dana White for after Lesnar beat Mir. People just wanted to see those two giants fight
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Don’t underestimate Carwin’s wholier-than-thou sportsman comments about Lesnar’s antics. It definitely helped.
. . . I’m sure Mir’s stalker like obsession almost helped him propel him to Lesnar rematch.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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"I'm not afraid to say it: I'm not a brawler, and I'm not a coward. I'm not going to trade punch one-for-one with a guy. I'm going to hit the guy and not get hit. That's a smart way to fight." - GSP
by VeeisAnimated on May 28, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Chael Sonnen is the master of talking your way to the top. Yes, he has earned his stripes in the cage by winning three straight fights where he was an underdog, but his revolutionary sh*t talking (better than prime Tito by a landslide) has made him a star.
by MMABookworm on May 28, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably followed Dana to his car.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
by Sam Cupitt on May 28, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Like Maia subbed Jason MacDonald easily? A victory is not automatic, this is MMA. Don’t forget a guy like MacDonald had Maia in a submission attempt.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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"I'm not afraid to say it: I'm not a brawler, and I'm not a coward. I'm not going to trade punch one-for-one with a guy. I'm going to hit the guy and not get hit. That's a smart way to fight." - GSP
by VeeisAnimated on May 28, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
The athlete has a slick MMA BJJ game. Belcher’s isn’t even close to that.
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yeah, that might have been one of my favorite fights of all time, fantastic grappling by both fighters
by PapaBumpants on May 28, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Ditto!
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
- - - -
"I'm not afraid to say it: I'm not a brawler, and I'm not a coward. I'm not going to trade punch one-for-one with a guy. I'm going to hit the guy and not get hit. That's a smart way to fight." - GSP
by VeeisAnimated on May 28, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
YO CONDIT WON!!!
Yes, I’m still mad at that decision.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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"I'm not afraid to say it: I'm not a brawler, and I'm not a coward. I'm not going to trade punch one-for-one with a guy. I'm going to hit the guy and not get hit. That's a smart way to fight." - GSP
by VeeisAnimated on May 28, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
It was razor-thin. I had bet on Kampmann, but Condit is one of my favorite fighters. It was so tough. I’ve probably watched that fight 20 times, and I still can’t pick a winner.
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watch it with the commentary turned off
when i did that, it sure looked like Kampmann was the superior fighter that night. although i do agree it was close.
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by bobthewriter on May 28, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I honestly never get why people always talk about commentary like people can’t listen to Rogan and have their own opinion. The fact is Condit won the first 2 rounds and gave the last one away by staying on the bottom and trying subs. It was a competetive fight but it was clearly a win for Condit sadly the judges were on some other shit.
by Nightwhistler on May 28, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but MacDonald isn’t Mr. BJJ Worlds this-or-that champion like Jacare, Nepao or Maia. That says something.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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"I'm not afraid to say it: I'm not a brawler, and I'm not a coward. I'm not going to trade punch one-for-one with a guy. I'm going to hit the guy and not get hit. That's a smart way to fight." - GSP
by VeeisAnimated on May 28, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
This is true, but adapting your BJJ to fit into MMA well takes time. Like I said, MacDonald might not have world class BJJ, but his MMA BJJ is pretty damn good. Maia’s still learning how to adapt his into MMA.
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Still learning?
Maybe at the time of that fight, but Maia has pretty clearly adapted his BJJ game to MMA extremely well. The other parts of the fight game he definitely needs work, though.
Dude. It's Anderson Silva.
If he gives a damn he will end Sonnen’s night by either sub or KO.
-SSreporters
By Monday morning Chael Sonnen will be pissing out of his neck.
-Also SSreporters
A PPV-caliber fight on free TV.
YUS!
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
by SSreporters on May 28, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Better practice tapping, Alan.
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by Tim Burke on May 28, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree,
That fight has got fireworks written all over it, both wouldn’t back down. I’d give it to Belcher too. Who knows, they are somewhat around the same rank and younger guys. It’s just a matter of time.
"50% of this sport is 90% mental" - Tim Sylvia
Belcher via KO
I think this is a horrible match-up for Maia. I’m expecting a something similar to what Nate Marquardt did to Mia
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Never say never
Cain was called pillow fisted before he KO’d Nog
by MMAGuard on May 28, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nog’s chin is also a bit shot, just ask Frank Mir.
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by s.r.genovese on May 28, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not similar to what Nate did to Maia. I was just responding to that statement.
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Fair enough. I do think Belcher has a good standup game. Maybe not one-hitter quitter power in the hands, but he keeps improving every fight in his overall game from what I have noticed.
by Hardcharger on May 28, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Horrible match-up for maia? You nuts man?
by moonlapse88 on May 28, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is this a horrible matchup?
Because he’s a good striker?
by Pantherhare on May 28, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s much better than Maia standing and Belcher is constantly improving his game. I don’t see Maia having an easy time taking Belcher down either.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Belcher is also getting good TD defense. He’s an enormous MW, and is very strong and athletic. If he can use those traits to fend off TDs, he could hurt Maia standing.
by Hardcharger on May 28, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Who has Belcher beaten recently that had good take downs and a good ground game? (I don’t consider Kang to have either of those).
We know he has great skills but finds a way to lose when the going gets tough. He needs a sports psychologist because if he fills in that mental gap he is top-10 for sure.
by HarmlessNinja on May 29, 2010 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Perceptions change fast..
I think if this fight was set up a year ago to the date you would say the complete opposite.
"50% of this sport is 90% mental" - Tim Sylvia
Well, he asked for upper tier competition and now he’s getting it. I’m curious to see how this one would go. If Belcher keeps it standing, he’ll brutalize Maia. However, I think Maia takes this to the ground and subs him. If Maia can take Sonnen down, he can take Belcher down.
Uh, he means that Maia took down an extremely good wrestler, so he should be able to do it to Belcher no problem. Who said anything about identical?
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Oh in that case........
Belcher is going to KO Maia standing since he has better Muay Thai than Nate.
Fun with MMAmath.
Wow. Uh, that’s not MMAth. At all. You clearly don’t understand what you’re talking about.
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You both have points.
Maia has taken down the best wrestler at MW currently, in Sonnen. He also got KOed by Marquardt.
You can use those 2 fights, along with aspects of the Miller and Anderson fight to make the case that either Belcher or Maia has the advantage, IMO.
by Hardcharger on May 28, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I didn’t say I was of great help!
by Hardcharger on May 28, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, what Beer Monster and Hardcharger said. It’s not like Belcher has some incredible takedown defense or anything. Belcher also has underrated ground skills, but the safe money is on Maia subbing Belcher.
I listed ways both guys could find a path to winning, so I covered all the bases!
by Hardcharger on May 28, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
And 9 times out of 10 I don’t see Maia doing that to Sonnen. Great move by Maia who deserves credit for that, but I couldn’t see him ever doing that again to Sonnen in a rematch
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
I kinda agree with mmaguard. I don’t know what exactly constitutes mmamath but saying that Maia will take down Belcher with ease because he scored a TD against Sonnen seems dubious. He’s still an inferior wrestler to Sonnen. Just like saying Belcher will KO Maia because he has better MT than Nate (questionable). Different fights, different all around fighters you can’t just select a specific trait from each fighter imo.
It’s a means to an end. Maia’s takedowns are very slick, and Belcher’s game doesn’t really have anything in it to counteract those types of takedowns. It’s not just Maia taking down Sonnen, it’s Belcher getting taken down by the likes of Ed Herman and Kendall Grove, and a whole host of other factors that lead me to that conclusion. I know what you’re saying for sure though.
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I’m not sre it would be wise IMO to clinch with Belcher due to his muay thai. I just don’t see anyway Maia wins this fight unless Belcher follows Maia to the ground into his guard.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
I’ve never seen nasty clinch game from Belcher. The Sexy One had no problems in taking Belcher down.
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by dancingChicken on May 28, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Kalib Starnes had trouble with Belcher’s muay thai. Also, I wasn’t trying to imply that his clinch was really nasty, but dangerous for Maia compared to what Sonnen had to offer in the clinch when Maia took Sonnen down (Which I still believe was a absolutely beautiful fluke)
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Belcher and his Johnny Cash are begging for the arm triangle…
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on May 28, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I see Cash getting his back broken.
by judonerd on May 28, 2010 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maia will do us a favor and throw the whole arm in a trash can.
I'm a lover not a fighter
by spectaa on May 28, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
It's bad but it is far from the worst ever
by Steve4192 on May 28, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's the best tattoo ever.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
by SSreporters on May 28, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i think you’re looking at his belly button tat… look at the chest man.
Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down
by Austin Martin on May 28, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Errr
I hope that SS is your name doesn’t stand for what some people think it might. Look at the chest tattoo. ;)
by HarmlessNinja on May 29, 2010 5:54 AM EDT up reply actions
This is kind of classic.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
- - - -
"I'm not afraid to say it: I'm not a brawler, and I'm not a coward. I'm not going to trade punch one-for-one with a guy. I'm going to hit the guy and not get hit. That's a smart way to fight." - GSP
by VeeisAnimated on May 28, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Maia will take this only if he takes it to the ground
Otherwise this is Belcher’s fight to lose.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
I still don't get the belcher hype.
He’s strong but slow. He doesn’t seem to have a very dynamic game. He’s got like, one reliable sub. He just beat a guy coming off a major injury with major ring rust, and according to Fight Metric, he got outboxed by a judoka. Has he even knocked anyone out recently? He’s food for Maia.
Maia takes this.
by judonerd on May 28, 2010 11:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think Belcher is solid and a game fighter. He’s not fast as some of the smaller MW fighters but he can take a shot and has a number of weapons.
Note, he defeated Wilson Gouveia via TKO (Punches)
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
- - - -
"I'm not afraid to say it: I'm not a brawler, and I'm not a coward. I'm not going to trade punch one-for-one with a guy. I'm going to hit the guy and not get hit. That's a smart way to fight." - GSP
by VeeisAnimated on May 28, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s not as fast, because he’s damn near the biggest.
by Hardcharger on May 28, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Wilson Gouveia came in overweight and out of shape as always. He also tagged Belcher. Gouveia has since proceeded to lose in a MFC show.
Seriously? Missing weight at 205 is a clear sign Gouveia isn’t even trying anymore.
by Hardcharger on May 28, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup, had to fight at a catchweight of 208, and Jimmo destroyed him anyway.
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How big or unmotivated do you have to be to not be able to cut to 205?
Top UFC LHWs drop 15 or more lbs to make 205. Rampage was 219 a day ago. Jon Jones cut from 221 last time. Tito and Forrest are huge. Gouveia can’t cut to 205? Ridiculous. And if he’s cutting from 225 and could only get to 208, that ridiculous that he got up to 225.
by Hardcharger on May 28, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Belcher hype? What Belcher hype? He’s young and flashy and he’s ok. Nobody is arguing he’d beat Silva but Alan Belcher. Maia is the favorite here, and the UFC is kind of setting him up to win, but Belcher has a shot.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
This rules
2 solid fighters, striker vs grappler style matchup, argument among the fans as to who will win, free TV. What’s not to like?
I consider myself a softcore fan.
Rogan is already preparing his comments regarding the size of Belcher’s thighs and Demian’s jiu jitsu game.
Good for Belcher
He’s been pushing for a bigger shot and it looks like he’s going to get it. I think he’s done a great job of marketing himself, and even though he’s had losses in the last few years to fighters like Jason Day, his only real loss recently was a REALLY close fight.
Let’s see if he can sink or swim. Throw him in.
really looking forward to this matchup
i like both guys, think they’re both hella talented. hate that there has to be a loser.
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with all but one of his submission wins by choke
can we start calling him Demian “Strangler” Maia?
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by some schmuck in texas on May 28, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
that does nothing for entrance music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jGqx3sqq-4
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by some schmuck in texas on May 28, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
specificity 10/10
snappiness 3/10
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by some schmuck in texas on May 28, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
I think you are wrong about the into music though. His into should be:
Wu Tang – Protect Ya Neck
by truck on May 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Belcher
I think he can win this. IMO, he was robbed of that decision against Akiyama. I think a win here would really set Belcher up for a shot at being a #1 Contender.
If you look at Belcher’s win/loss record, one can see that he has a pattern of winning two and then losing his next fight after the two wins. Going by the pattern, Belcher should lose against Maia. In all seriousness though, I do have Maia submitting Belcher. Belcher hasn’t shown great takedown defense, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see Maia pulling guard on Belcher either. Belcher beats Maia on the standup, but I have a feeling that Maia won’t want to stand with Belcher for very long even though in Maia’s fight against Miller, they did stand for most of the fight. The disparity in standup skills is too far apart.
Belcher has been calling out Anderson Silva and even Joe Silva. Beating Maia, a former Title contender and top ten Middleweight, will go a long way to him finally getting on a UFC poster like he wants.
I would still be surprised to see him in a #1 contender match with a win here though… Unless it was in spectacular fashion. But like others have said I don’t think he has one punch KO power. That said I’ll cheer for anyone who does a superman punch of the side of the cage. That was one of the sweetest moves ever.
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