Randy Couture Says Rashad’s Wrestling "Can Make It a Long Night For Rampage"
by Nick Thomas on May 27, 2010 5:36 PM EDT
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"It's interesting to see if Rashad has come all the way back from the knockout from Machida and psychologically how he's feeling about that. With a guy like Rampage who's a banger, he can hit. Both guys have the common fight with Chuck, similar outcomes.
"I think Rashad’s wrestling is stronger than Rampage’s. We saw Henderson control the early part of that fight with Rampage using some wrestling. So Rashad has that capability. Although until his last fight we hadn't seen that from him. He tries to stand and bang with everybody."
"I think if Rashad goes out and uses, implements the All-American wrestling that he has, he can make it a long night for Rampage."
"Rampage is a strong, very very good striker and it's going to be a game fight."
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Lay and Pray all the way...
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Randy hasn’t exactly been lighting the world on fire with his recent predictions…
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by Charles Awad on May 27, 2010 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Haha randy also thought that rogers would be able to dominate alistair with his superior strenght and wrestling, not really, Rampage is the bigger stronger man, has good wrestling and some excellent striking.
You beat me to it. Guess he had to pick someone. I’m leaning towards Rampage but I could see it going either way.
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by frosty31 on May 27, 2010 6:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No, Randy thought Rogers would dominate Valentin Overeem.
He was clearly talking about the wrong guy.
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John Pollock does a great job with these preview shows on TFN. John Ramdeen, on the other hand, can’t even dress himself, let alone present a cohesive opinion. They went from having Randy Couture and BJM as their primary analysts, to this Ramdeen joker and noted Canadian TV famewhore Robin Black. Yikes.
I may end up wrong here but...
I just think Rampage is on a different level than ’Shad.
’Shad’s biggest wins are Forrest T. Silva and Chuck. I dont have to say what everyone has already said about those guys. Bisping almost beat him and so did Tito.
If you look at Q’s record, he’s beat so many guys at or above that level…
Jardine
Hendo
Chuck
Chuck
Wand
Arona
Igor V.
even Randleman was above a 40+ yr old Chuck or Forrest’s level at the time.
And even though Page has had the long layoff… did Shad beating T. Silva during that time really make anyone think he’ll beat Rampage?
I just think Shad has more hype and less talent than Rampage. Shad’s wrestling will help, but Rampage is a strong s.o.b.
BTW. Name one (mma) wrestler who has beat Rampage other than Marvin Eastman… Henderson, Lindland, Arona, and Randleman couldnt do it.
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Too bad MMATH doesn't work
I wish it did… But it doesn’t
its not MMATH.
MMATH would be…
Rashad > Forrest
Forrest > Rampage
so Rashad > Rampage
I am saying that Rampage has had great success against the top 205ers in the world since 2002.
Rashad has had mixed success against only a hand full of top 205ers and didnt fight anyone of note until 2007.
Thats MMAhistory not MMAmath…
I also said Rashad’s wrestling advantage is nice but overrated. And that Rampage has eaten wrestlers up in his career.
Thats MMAphilosophy not MMAmath…
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by MMArazorback on May 27, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont agree... He couldnt beat forrest convincingly
Also, I dont think this is by any means a fight that Quentin can win if Rashad doesnt let him( Rashad coming in psyched out is what I mean here)
Forrest
Beat Shogun.
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by Chris Barton on May 28, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
That list is purposefully misleading. Listing Chuck 2x on Rampage’s list as guys better than Rashad has beaten (when Rashad KOed Chuck too). Thiago Silva KOed Jardine, Chuck beat Wandy, and Randleman can’t beat anyone, even in 2003.
Ramage has tons of good opponents and good wins, but Rashad has consistently fought top guys too.
The difference is Rampage beat Chuck when Chuck was at the top of his game, twice.
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by Chris Barton on May 28, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Rashad’s wrestling should give Rampage problems, but Rashad suffers from a fairly common disease in MMA called Sherk Syndrome. He’s a wrestler who has fallen in love with his hands, and has forgotten all about what his strongest asset is….. his wrestling. Rashad isn’t going to fight intelligently on Saturday. Rashad’s gonna try to stand with Rampage, and he’ gonna pay for it. Rampage KO in the 2nd round.
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The great thing about Rampages wrestling is that because his hands are so good, how much power he has, and his chin, he keeps it standing unless it needs to be taken to the ground. Rampage will sprawl like a mother fucker if Rashad tries to shoot on him and I can see him eating a few on the way in.
That’s why wrestlers with good striking do so well. They rely on their wrestling to back them up if the stand up game isn’t going good, and the other way around.
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I’m sorry but if Rashad barely squeaked by Bisping and couldn’t handle Tito (seriously, how often do we see point deductions for holding the fence?), then he’s going to have a very hard time with Rampage. Rashad was also having a lot of trouble with Forrest, and unfortunately, Rampage has a damn good chin.
Rampage by unanimous decision.
Rashad all-American my ass-neck. However I am posting this before verifying my incredulity.
Behave with confidence
You understand incorrectly. Rashad was a national qualifier. He wasn’t an All American though. However, Rashad has one of the biggest upsets in NCAA wrestling history when he knocked off Greg Jones from WVU. Realistically, he kept Greg Jones from being a 4x NCAA champ.
yeah. Rashad’s career varsity record is 48-34. 4th and 3rd in the Big Ten, qualifying for Nationals twice. The Jones match was great. Rashad was the 16seed and Jones was #1. hell of an upset
Thanks for the actual stats.
The UFC throws out “All American” wrestling ability like it’s nothing, without facts to back it up in some cases. Rashad seems to be a guy who developed explosive TDs in college, but for whatever reason wasn’t a star in college. Big 10 competition is as hard as it gets. But beating a guy like Jones is almost an incomprehensible upset.
by Hardcharger on May 28, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks
check my response to Givve right below. a high-level wrestler is a high level wrestler, and how many times he was an all-american doesn’t matter against non high level wrestlers. The difference between an NCAA qualifier and a 3-time NCAA champ really doesnt matter against anyone who isnt a big-time wrestler. Rampage is not a big-time wrestler. He’s OK, but JuCo wrestling in tennessee aint nothing compared to the Big Ten
I’ve argued that same point with others time and again. For MMA, you can’t always compare guys based on where they finished in the NCAA tournament – or if they even made it. Some styles of wrestling translate better to MMA (IMO), with Rashad having explosive TDs that translate well. Maybe he was a sucky guy on top and bottom, which is why he lost 1/3 of the time, I don’t know. But I agree, you can’t always say a guy who finished 8th will lose the MMA wrestling to a guy who finished 3rd.
Rashad was not a fantastic college wrestler like askren, hendricks, koscheck and Lesnar, those guys where monsters, rashad was decent but not spectacular.
however, once you get up to NCAA qualifier level, there really isnt much difference in how effective these guys can be against non wrestlers, it only matters when they face eachother. Rashad has the chops to thoroughly outwrestle anyone at LHW except Mo Lawal and maaaybe Jon Jones
I’m hoping Rampage can deal with it well. I need a Rampage win for my fight game parlay. I figure Lil Nog, Bisping, and TODDDUFFEE are all easy wins.
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by ChiCubs23 on May 27, 2010 8:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That should read four fight parlay.
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by ChiCubs23 on May 27, 2010 8:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think this is ’Page’s fight to lose. Rampage has the tools to beat Rashad, but I am worried if it goes to decision. I’m afraid Page might gas if the fight goes the distance
by devious1 on May 27, 2010 9:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
hopefully the rampage of pride shows up and slams gayshad through the octagon.. but in all seriousness, i can see it going either way. i look at the rampage/forest fight and think rashad can just run and out point him, but in contrast, i really dont think machida punches harder than rampage na mean?
Dominating win over Thiago Silva
Was I watching a different fight that night?
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