Vitor Belfort Will Fight for the UFC Middleweight Title When He Returns
by Nick Thomas on May 19, 2010 6:43 PM EDT
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According to Vitor Belfort's manager Fabiano Farah:
[Vitor] will not get a warm-up fight before he vies for the 185-pound belt.
"Vitor will be in (the best) absolute physical condition to return to the octagon and fight for the UFC title by November 2010," Farah wrote today in an email.
If Silva wins at UFC 117, White recently told reporters, he will fight Belfort and then make a semi-permanent move to light heavyweight.
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14 months off and Anderson Silva across the cage from him. Not the best combination.
And no, it won’t be Chael Sonnen across the cage.
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I’d like to say that Shane Carwin kinda had to do the same thing. Same with Brock Lesner and we don’t know how much up to par he’ll be. That’ll be a good battle. But although i do think Belfort can be a formidable opponent, this is NOT good for him. From Lindland to GAP to Silva/Sonnen, I really don’t like his chances at this point.
And has he always fought at LHW? He LOOKS like a MW.
I was about 5 minutes from a fan post asking what's goingmto happen with Vitor.
He should fight Nate but at least we know theres a plan.
by Myke25 on May 19, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
YES!
I have been wondering about this guy and if he would get a shot. He can beat Anderson. Dude KO’d Franklin and beat a good Wanderlei. He may have been off for 14 months but so has Anderson it is not like fighting grapplers counts. Please knock out Anderson take the title and let Silva move to 205 to fight Shogun.
If Belfort beats Silva, then the fight with shogun is irrelevant.
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by SouthAlaBamaRampage on May 19, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
IMO semi permanent means...
he’d fight 3 times a year, 2 of those being at 205, the other one being a title defense.
That’s just me though.
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Not sure on the number of fights you've described
But I got the same impression— that he’d take fights at 205 and if a real contender emerges, he’d face them at 185.
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The numbers were just being thrown out there
but i’m glad i’m not the only person who thinks so
"I drop knowledge so heavy it leaves the world unbalanced, Exterminate the spiritual force of all that challenge, I'm the lyrical apocalypse that crumbles the granite, Replacing you as the dominant species on the planet" - Immortal Technique
I don't care to see AS fight at
185…he doesn’t seem too motivated there and his fights BLOW more then GSP
I figured it meant he'd give up his belt and move up
With the possibility of coming back down after a loss or maybe even moving up to HW if he goes on another run…
The UFC isn't going to risk losing Silva vs Vitor as a headline.
It would be the biggest MW title fight name wise in history.
Name wise? Rich Franklin was a far bigger MW name than Vitor will ever be. Casuals (me, at the time) knew who he was. Recent history, sure.
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Silva wasn't that big at that time though.
It was his crushing Franklin twice that made him a big name.
Soares has said Anderson has no interest in Belfort
And that after Sonnen, Silva wants to move right up and face Shogun and he is adamant about it. After that he wants to go to heavyweight, he is saying he is tired of “the next contender” diet that Dana has him on. He wants to fight superfights from now on.
What Silva wants is irrelvant he crapped the bed against Maia and now will pay the price for it. No superfights for him until he starts knocking out guys left and right and stops the bs. But it really doesn’t matter because Sonnen will beat Silva and if Vitor is next it sure as hell won’t be in November maybe early next year at the earliest.
by Nightwhistler on May 19, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
What Silva wants is irrelevant?
Well, if you want to delude yourself, be my guest. And Sonnen is tailor made for Silva, watch his last 3 fights again and then watch Silva’s last 3. Sonnen has no footwork, no timing, no head movement, he cuts badly, he eats knees left and right and if he does get Silva down, he has terrible submission defense, while Anderson has subbed every good fighter that has taken him down, get freakin real.
while Anderson has subbed every good fighter that has taken him down, get freakin real.
Really? Anderson subbed Lutter with elbows after getting taken down, and then took Hendo’s back in a scramble to choke him out. Please tell me about all these other guys that took Anderson down and got subbed. And then perhaps we can stop overrating Silva’s BJJ because he’s barely shown any.
because he’s barely shown any
bit of an overstatement there. he’s shown a whole hell of a lot more than dos Santos or Cain or Carwin or Rashad…
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by Anthony Pace on May 19, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough,
but I still don’t understand all the fawning over his supposed BJJ acumen. Could he have great BJJ skills? Sure…I don’t think the Nogueiras just hand out black belts to their buddies. But I just don’t think he’s shown anything close to enough to warrant all the praise his BJJ gets.
Well gee
He subbed Lutter and Henderson, how many other fighters have done that?
He didn’t overatte anything, he simply said he has subbed every good fighter that took him down, which is true, even if its only 2 fighters.
Lindland subbed Lutter, so I wouldn't use him as your example
and Lutter also tapped to the elbows, not the triangle…so let’s not turn into a Franklin McNeil situation, where he said that Junior Dos Santos had a great game because he submitted Cro Cop, when in reality it was a submission due to strikes.
Also: Okami, Marquardt and Hendo all took Silva down without getting threatened by subs. The Hendo sub came in a scramble like I mentioned before.
I acknowledge that Silva is probably good off his back, but the statement that he’s “subbed every good fighter that took him down” is simply misleading, and I still stand by my point that he still has not proven himself to be the dangerous submission threat that some have claimed him to be.
The only people who seem deluded are the one’s that think Dana is going to put up with Anderson’s crap and reward him have they not learned this is the guy who cut Fitch over a video game White doesn’t play.
Also Sonnen may lack alot of things but he has 1 thing that is the worse possible antidote for Anderson’s skills, great takedowns and top control. Look at what he did to guys like Okami and Nate. He will take Anderson down and punish him because Silva has no takedown defense this is the worst match up possible for him and he knows it that’s why he’s lobbying for other fights.
by Nightwhistler on May 20, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Link Please i've read this nowhere on BE or any other MMA outlet.....
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Vitor vs would be huge
Anderson today is a bigger name than Anderson who beat Franklin. So Anderson vs Vitor would be huge especially with the Brazil crowd.
I think name wise the top draws are: Brock, Chuck, BJ Penn, GSP, Anderson and Randy
If you were going to say a name that a soccer mom might of heard of those are your best bets. Tops guys like Shogun, Machida, Wanderlei, Rampage, JDS, Vitor, even Fedor no one outside of mma has ever heard of. Being on the same card as Brock gets you so many new sets of eye balls.
actually,
while I agree with most of your post, you would be very surprised at how many people know who Rampage is in comparison to the other fighters you mentioned. I think he would belong in with the first set of names you listed as opposed to the second.
And Anderson has not proven to be much of a draw on his own, especially after a few uninspired title defences, which is why recently his fights are usually co-headlined by big name fighters (Penn/Edgar @ 112, Penn/Florian @ 101, Chuck/Shogun @ 97)
Green Jacket, Gold Jacket, who gives a shit?
actually
You gotta think outside of just the US. Anderson is a god in Brazil the 4th or 5th most populated country on Earth. More people know Brock, Chuck and Randy than any other fighters. BJ Penn is another super famous fighter as well as GSP and sadly Kimbo Slice.
Rampage was in pride most of his career and has been gone for te last year but he would be next on the list. These are not the best fighters of all time just the most famous. As in a soccer mom might know them. Brock by far is the most famous followed by Chuck yes Chuck thanks to dancing with the stars. Tito was on apprentus and might still be a huge draw too. Point is Vitor is not on that list but if he beat Silva he would be. Fock Fedor he needs to quit the special olympics and fight in the UFC
I’d add fedor to the list. My grandpa called after the rogers fight talking about some smaller Russian fedor that could take him in his heyday. And he hates anything soviet union
by Crosser on May 19, 2010 7:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why would you include Rampage on that list
A lot of people know Rampage, he’s been on talk shows and he’s going to be in the new A-Team movie. But honestly Rampage is best known by a lot of people just for his on road antics that were all over the news. The day the Ultimate Fighter came on my dad happened to be in the room and he knows virtually nothing about MMA and even he asked if that was the dude that had that high speed chase. I’d say Rampage is definetely one of the better known fighters, even over probably everybody on your first list except Brock.
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Who is basically Left for Anderson at 185
Sonnen
Vitor
GSP?
Possibly Jake Shields
That’s it
Well
The world turns. Were you calling Sonnen one of the remaining hurdles for Anderson 12 months ago?
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by Mat Parker 116 on May 19, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That doesn't have anything to do with it
Point is, new challengers emerge when the old ones go by the wayside. There really is no such thing as cleaning out a division in modern MMA, especially in a division as prominent as 185. Belcher? Toqhuino? Akiyama?
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Okami, Marquardt
Honestly, we could go on for awhile.
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Exactly there will always be a contender.
For the argumennt about Sonnen being a contender he earned his way along with wins over guys who were thought to smash him. Okami and Marquart are not push overs and at the time were only a win or two away from a title shot (ok maybe not Okami because he keeps getting shafted but Nate was close).
Oh, he's definitely up for a shot
Didn’t think I suggested otherwise (just mentioned at one point that a year ago, he wasn’t in the picture).
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Anderson has fought enough contenders
Its time to move on to the big boys now
"There will always be a contender"
Tell that to Thales Leites. Or Dan Hardy. Not always.
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Well, you could make a good argument for GSP most recently after he beat Alves and had to fight Hardy. I’d say Kos is almost legit except GSP already handily beat him, so while your point is mostly valid, there is such a thing as cleaning out a division as GSP seems to have done it.
But not permanently though. Someone will come along eventually.
The way that these things work though is that while Anderson is fighting Sonnen and if he wins, then Vitor, then someone else will emerge. Sonnen wasn’t really on the radar until very recently, and many thought that Sonnen would lose to Marquardt. Marquardt, Okami or Palhares may get a shot, and then there is always that possibility that a top ten UFC light heavyweight will cut to Middleweight (Rashad Evans looks like he could make the cut).
As far as Vitor goes, I think he should get a warm-up fight at 185 before fighting Anderson. I personally think that he should fight Belcher, and if Vitor wins, then he can get Anderson.
Can't understand the UFC on this one.
Why are they so damn adamant about Vitor fighting for the belt IMMEDIATELY upon entering the MW division? Sure, he had a good run outside of the UFC then gibbed Franklin at FW (Franklinweight) but with the layoff and the other people at the top of the division, he should fight once before the title. Put him up against Nate or Maia, hell even Okami.
Because Vitor is a notorious flake
You put him in a tune up fight or a #1 contender’s fight,and you’re taking a big chance on him loosing.
They don’t want to risk that matchup.Dana and Joe Silva have a serious hard on for Anderson vs Vitor,for whatever reason.Frankly,I think it has the potential to be a God awful fight.Vitor has shown to be gun shy against good strikers (Liddell,Overeem),and if he doesn’t go out guns ablazin at Anderson,it’s going to end up being a 25 minute staring contest.
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by Brian Mayes on May 19, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I really wanna see this
I also wanna see Wanderlei and Anderson.
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