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To bad Fedor probably doesn't know who he is.

From here on out, against any good competition,this guy is going to try and lay and pray his way to wins. He does nothing with a take down except get out-struck like he was against Mousasi.

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

You must hate all wrestlers then. How did he lay and pray on Mousasi? He was posturing up and hitting him in the face? if he was laying and praying then how did he get up kicked? What King Mo did to Mousasi was pretty damn impressive considering Mousasi was the second coming of Fedor if you listen his nut huggers.

Learn something about wrestling and fighting before you say he was lay and praying. To me lay and praying is when you take someone down and do nothing at all. Just hold onto him, and even then is it the top guys fault that the bottom guy cant stop a take down? If both guys are doing nothing what so ever is the only time I would call something Lay and pray. Fighters in MMA need to learn how to stop a take down or have really good submissions to be good in MMA now days.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Naw

just the ones that cant do anything w/ a take down against a decent opponent (see Joe Warren in Bellator) while at the same time being out struck by the guy they are lying on.

You may go now…

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

So who ever lands the most punches is the winner? Wow I guess we need to inform the judges that they picked the wrong guy.

I think we watched way different fights. Mousasi was happy to lay on his back and throw weak ass punches and he didnt nothing to try and get up. How can you respect that at all?

you can go now…

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I could see how weak as punches would make a guys eye swell up.
LOL!!!

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok so now the winner is who ever makes the other guys eye swell up? I think the up kicks had something to do with the eye swelling up.

Just admit that you love Mousasi and that you are still torn up about him losing.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhh, how cute...

"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."

by dancingChicken on May 19, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not what I said

it was more of a reply to you weak “weak ass punches” argument.
You can read my reply again if it was hard to understand.
Thanks.

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

“If you read my reply again” you would see that I didn’t make that argument, my predecessor did. I just posted a photo.

Your inane ramblings are becoming very pedestrian. Please go back to work. You’ve stated your opinion and just about everyone disagrees with you. Everyone understands your point and either don’t agree with you or don’t care. Now is the time to just accept that other people have different opinions. Go back to tweeting and all will be well.

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

pedestrian is a big word. Anyway genius, if you notice the position of my above reply as opposed to this one, you will notice that I did reply to him and not to you.
Yawn…

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with you buddy

so what if Mo took him down.
all Mo was able to do was dictate where the fight took place.
but regardless of where the fight took place, Mousasi was better there.

Fights are scored on:
Effective Strikes: Mousasi (fucked up Mo’s face and landed WAY more)
Effective Grappling: Mousasi (went for subs, Mo didn’t)
Aggression: Mousasi (was throwing WAY more strikes/ sub attempts)
Control: Mo

Since when can a guy win one criteria, lose the other 3, but still win the fight?

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by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 19, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

How does a swollen eye prove he was not throwing weak ass punches off his back? As I have already state and you have ignore I am pretty sure the eye got fucked up by an up kick or at best while they exchanged on their feet.

On top of that people’s body swell at different rates, or one good punch could cause that and the rest would be the weak ass punches that I was referring too. If Moussai was so strong with his punches then why didnt he finish Mo?

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

lets look at some real fight data

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Lawal-Mousasi.html
Check out the fight Metric and get back to me. They consider most punches thrown by Mousassi as Jabs. Lets see here besides Anderson Silva I dont know how many fighters have super powerful jab on their feat let alone off of their back. 104 of those punches he threw were jabs off of his back. If you want to give a guy a win b/c he can lay on his back and throw a pussy as jab that does no damage then please start your own fight promotion.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you want to give a guy a win b/c he can lay on his back and throw a pussy as jab that does no damage then please start your own fight promotion.

Wow, I didnt know number would get you so butt hurt.
Sorry, I take everything back!!
LOL!!!

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

his eye swelled up from the single leg in the first round… he should lose the fight based on his eye?
did you read his interview with Ben Fowlkes?

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by ekc on May 19, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

you should disclaim yourself before entering any conversation about Mo.

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was actually thinking about this when i read the above. nice.

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by theworldsoldestsport on May 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

those stats are incredibly misleading considering its counts piterpat backhands the same as any other punch

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by ekc on May 19, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

he wasnt hitting him in the face, he was giving little girl taps at best cos he cant fight for shit… he sure can wrestle tho, maybe he should f*** off back to wrestling

i doubt he will do that as long as takedowns score higher than punches and submissions

by MyrkN on May 19, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

This amazes me how people can watch the same fight and think 100% differently. The funny thing is that the judges who were right next to the fight thought Knig Mo won. I went into the fighter listening to all the hype about Mousassi and then was greatly disappointed. He did nothing the whole fight! How can you like that? How can you blame the other guy for taking down a good stand up guy and controling and beating him up for 5 rounds?
 

What do you call the punches that Mousasi was throwing from his back? 5 year old kid punches?

What system would you put into place to score it so Mousassi would win?

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

All very good questions that nobody has an answer to.

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

All very good questions that nobody has an answer to the time to bother answering.

by HarmlessNinja on May 19, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what you took away from his fight with Mousasi?

Root for the home team jack ass

by KING FEDOR on May 19, 2010 8:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's what they all say

I’m a huge fan of King Mo but everybody says basically the same thing about Fedor but they always end up looking dazed and confused while the chubby Russian’s hand is being raised.

Root for the home team jack ass

by KING FEDOR on May 19, 2010 8:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

“From here on out, against any good competition…”

You destroyed yourself with that statement. Implying that Mousasi wasn’t good competition shows a frightening lack of mma knowledge.

I think King Mo is still evolving. It’s true though that he seemed to be puzzled at times in top control, however I don’t think enough credit was being given to Mousasi being able to land blows from his back. To be honest, I’m getting sick of the “lay-and-pray” arguments from people whenever a wrestler wins. King Mo won because he was the better fighter. The better fighter is usually always able to implement their game plan better than their opponent.

If you can’t get over the whole ’wrestler’s suck because they all lay-and-pray’ attitude, maybe this sport isn’t for you. It’s mixed martial arts and you need to win any way you can. If it means utilizing wrestling, then its opponents that need to learn takedown defence.

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Not really

I was trying to imply that against any good competition, since before Mousasi he had none, I’m guessing that will be his blueprint.
Sorry to confuse you.
And as for your ignorant assumption that I have a ’wrestler’s suck because they all lay-and-pray’ attitude, try reading my reply above to the other guy.
Your input is noted.

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you contradicted/corrected yourself in the second statement. I’ll sucede that to you as it didn’t pop up as I was writing my last post.

I don’t share your opinion at all, but that’s ok. What other “good” strikeforce LHW fighters are you suggesting that King Mo will have trouble against?

Incidentally. although Mousasi may have won the fight statistically, I think very few mma people would have scored it for Mousasi based on the way King Mo was imposing his game plan and taking the fight where he wanted it. Thats for another debate though.

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fightmetric had Lawal winning the fight statistically too...

They have Lawal landing 125 strikes (not 93) and they also show that 104 of Mousasi’s landed strikes were ground strikes, which means they were mostly those little backhands that were thrown off his back.

by truck on May 19, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do I have a feeling we will see Fedor fight King Mo before Overeem.

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by JeremyShane on May 19, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

The thought did cross my mind. This could be a very bad matchup for King Mo, stylistically speaking.

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

In Fedor’s early career Mo would have given him some problems but the fight probably would have went down like the Arona fight. Fedor has evolved a lot since then and will capitalize on Mo’s periods of exhaustion with either a submission or he’d flip him and win KO via GnP before the end of the first.

by Christopher James Bonnette on May 19, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

How do you know Mo would get exhausted the next time? Fighters evolve and get better. Mo as already been critical of his last performance and talked about how he needs to get better and train better.

As for Fedor vs Mo, I think it would be an interesting fight but I really have no clue what kind of fighter Fedor is in a cage and also Fedor has not fought in so long it is hard to know what type of fighter he will be. Fedor would be the favorite by far but in this day and age of MMA nobody is unbeatable.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

King Mo is very smart.....

He knows he’s going to end up in the UFC and this is his only chance to fight the best fighter ever. Every astute business from King Mo, win or lose.

by JimJoe on May 19, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree about the business move, not sure if the UFC is his ultimate goal though. View the following scenarios:

1) Lawal loses in dominating fashion to Fedor. Result: Oh well, Fedor is the best ever and no shame in that, besides Lawal may be giving up some weight and only has a handful of fights under his belt.
2) Lawal loses in close fashion to Fedor. Result: Mo’s stock rises dramatically and he is the second coming of Chris (a la Rogers).
3) Lawal beats Fedor: Result: Insane nuthuggery and King Mo is given the keys his own kingdom somewhere. “King” Casey goes back to making rap videos.

There is no situation in which King Mo can lose here. Good business acumen to try and talk his way into a fight with M-1… I mean Fedor.

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

There is no situation in which King Mo can lose here. Good business acumen to try and talk his way into a fight with M-1… I mean Fedor.

How about him losing his soul, that’s not a good thing is it?

by David_ on May 19, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

King Mo loses in dominating fashion to Fedor: Result: Oh well, Fedor is the “best ever” (until he loses to someone like Overeem possibly). Lawal gets a bit of a pass though due to only losing to Fedor, but finds out UFC no longer interested and he is left to die in Strikeforce. Also many may see through his “skills” after someone beats him and he gets beaten by someone after Fedor easily as well…this may send him to the big King Mo vs Brett Rogers match to see who doesn’t lose.

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by JeremyShane on May 19, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

King Mo calling out Fedor!? That gave me a good luagh, the guy is no where near Fedor’s level. He is not even in the same weight class! This is just rediculous. King Mo needs to continue winning fights within his own weight class and defending his belt for a while before he starts calling out the HW champion.

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by Bandaka on May 19, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

When did Fedor become the HW champion, well beside the paper one people keep giving him. I see nothing wrong with calling out a fighter and testing ones abilities. What does Fedor walk around at now? At one time I read he was 220-230 at the most. I dont think he will be able to hang with these bigger HW for much longer. Most guys at 205 are bigger than Fedor when they are training, Fedor is just lazy and doesnt cut weight.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a stupid statement

You really think laziness is the reason Fedor doesn’t cut 15-25 pounds??? You think Fedor got to where he is by being lazy?

by Pantherhare on May 19, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not at all

I have no clue what to think of Fedor anymore. He is by far the best HW in MMA with his record over in Japan and his few fights in America, I dont know how long he can keep winning with being undersized now. When most 205 pounds guys walk around at 230 and fight at 205 what does that mean for Fedor?

The last guy he beat at HW that I can say was at his best when he beat him was Cro Cop in 2005. Since then he has fought people past there prime or out of there weight class.

 He had trouble with Brett fucking Rodgers who just got destroyed in his last fight. Calling him lazy for not cutting weight would be wrong, but I dont see how he can keep is mythical person going with out fighting a top level Fighter.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

My issue was with your statement about Fedor being lazy about cutting weight. The rest of your argument was defensible.

by Pantherhare on May 19, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

First you Mo won the "fight", then Fedor is lazy?????

Fedor is lazy, so yeah, he fights guys WAY bigger than him?
OR maybe he just doesn’t give a fuck cause he KOs them anyway.

And he KTFO of Brett Rogers. His face got cut with a jab, big deal.

Fedor would KTFO of Queen Mo.

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by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 19, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean he subs then anyways. Fedor has twice as many sub’s as KO’s.
The lazy comment about fedor was wrong, I dont know why he doesnt cut weight and we have covered that.

As for your hatred for King Mo please share with us why you think he lost his last fight beyond that you just hate him and think he sucks.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

Lawal isn’t even the true LHW champion.

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are a joke of a Troll. When did you become a MMA judge?

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ever heard of a guy named RUa?

And more importantly, why do you feel the need to follow me? I dont get it…

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was commenting on a comment you made, I thought we were having a discussion, Also looks like you are the one following me know, dont worry I will let you say your crazy comments for now on and just let them sit and not bring attention to your opinion’s.

Are you trying to say the since Lawal didn’t beat Rua he is not a true LWH champion? Do you think before you type? Rua is the champion in the UFC and Lawal is the champion in Strikeforce, they are not the same thing. With your logic one could say Rua is not the true champion as much as you could say Lawal is not a true LHW champion.

Dont worry I will not follow you around and try and have logical discussions with you anymore since this has been one sided from the start.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

You:

Are you trying to say the since Lawal didn’t beat Rua he is not a true LWH champion?

What I actually said:
The LHW champion”

Do you see an “a” in there?
Rua is the champion in the UFC and Lawal is the champion in Strikeforce, they are not the same thing. With your logic one could say Rua is not the true champion as much as you could say Lawal is not a true LHW champion.

Really genius? Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Laughable…

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by _Felix_ on May 19, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who the fuck am I nut hugging and welcome to the convo, I see you are adding a ton to this discussion. I am glad you took time out of you day to act like a middle school child.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

This made me laugh.

Fighters need to have confidence in their abilities so I can understand making bold statements. They also though need to realize their actual capabilities so that they really improve.

Mo has to much of one and not enough of the other. He isn’t a LnP fighter as some are claiming, but his top game was completely lacking against Gegard. He was out struck from the guy on the bottom and really landed nothing more damaging than hammerfists the entire time. He won that fight because of his wrestling and because of what seems to be a complete lack of wrestling from Gegard. Sure it wasn’t LnP, but it wasn’t fun to watch either.

I’d love to see him thrown into the mix with Fedor. Fedor would destroy him standing and if he were somehow able to get the fight to the ground, we’d see him submitted badly with seconds. Somehow everybody thinks they have a chance though…

by Neuriot on May 19, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

if "feel like i can beat" means...

get armbarred in the first round, then yeah Mo’s statement is pretty accurate

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by glassjawsh on May 19, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Why doesn't Fedor train

with Russian wrestlers?

It’s my understanding that the Russians regularly produce some of the top freestyle wrestlers in the world. Why doesn’t Fedor train with them?

Everybody says that one of the disadvantages the English and Dutch have is that its tough to train wrestling over there. The Russians don’t seem to have that disadvantage, but I’ve never heard of a Russian MMA fighter with strong wrestling and wrestling takedowns.

Anybody have a good guess?

A program. And rifles.

by Sabate on May 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

@Darren Watkins

Fedor shouldn’t cut weight. He would do worse against the 205ers than he would do against the 265ers because one of his big advantages as a HW is speed, and that advantage would be negated against the likes of Shogun.

As for the Rogers fight, yes, he didn’t look as dominating against Rogers as the Reem, but it wasn’t nearly as good a stylistic match-up for Fedor as it was for Alastair. Alastair and Brett are both one-dimensional strikers, with the main difference being that Alastair is significantly better as a striker and has a better ground game to boot. If Fedor and Alastair fought, it would be nothing like Overeem v. Rogers; Fedor might lose, but he would most likely hit with more than one shot, would clinch more, would tire Alastair out, and wouldn’t fold under pressure like Rogers. If Fedor can take it into the second round, then I think Alastair’s advantages start to melt away rapidly, and if he makes it to the third, then the Reem is done for.

by PlantingaFan on May 19, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I definitely agree with you about speed being something that has been critical to Fedor’s success. Though, I’m not really sure if its his hand speed or amazing sense of timing that has really differentiated himself from the others.

I am going to disagree with you about Overeem being a one-sided striker though. His K-1 experiences have developed his striking for sure, but he has decent takedown defence, works well from top position and has submitted guys in the past. I will concede we don’t know much about Alistair 2.0 off his back and looking back at his earlier fights I don’t think give a very clear view of his new skillset.

Personally, Fedor clinching Overeem may his downfall. Overeems knees and clinch game is very very good and Fedor is not only giving up massive size… but brute power. Much more power than the Roger’s fight. Also, I haven’t seen any evidence in Alistair 2.0’s K-1 and MMA fights that would indicate he still has a conditioning problem. It’s possible, but definitely a guess. Should be an interesting fight though!

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

@ManicPreacher

I grant that we haven’t seen any evidence of Overeem’s lack of conditioning, but the thing is, none of his K-1 fights have gone longer than 9 minutes. And he has added a lot of bulk—that can’t help his conditioning.

When I say that Overeem is a one-dimensional striker, what I mean is that his ground game is nothing special. It’s not terrible, like Rogers’s, but he wouldn’t have a good record if he relied on his ground game too much; he’s much better at striking than he is at anything else.

As for Overeem’s clinch, it is pretty damn monstrous, and that’s why for Fedor to win he’d have to make the match a bunch of scrambles and put constant pressure on Overeem for the first round. That said, Fedor’s hips are amazing, and he might be able to do something to take Overeem down from the clinch.

It’s certainly an interesting fight, and you couldn’t favor either guy too much going in.

by PlantingaFan on May 19, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with why Fedor doesn’t cut weight and why he really shouldnt as of right now. I dont think he would be able to compete at the 205 weight class like he does at HW.

 I think feder will have problems fighting at HW in the future. With guys cutting from 280 to make 265 size will come into play. The next fight for Fedor is intresting since he will be fighting a guy who can match him on the ground. We dont know what Werdum we will be getting since he has not fought for so long but I cant wait for that fight.

As long as he wins that fight who should he fight next? Fedor vs Reem is very interesting but some are saying Fedor is scared to win a belt and be locked into one organization. Fedor vs UFC HW champion would also be a huge test for him. I dont see Fedor being able to beat the top 4 hw from the ufc. Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, Junior Do santos would all present match up problems for Fedor and would be exciting fights.

The lack of top level competition that he has faced in recent years. MMA is evolving quickly and it is hard to tell if he is still the Fighter he was in Pride.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fedor still seems to have a lot of KO power, and has better striking than Cain, Carwin, or Lesnar. I would favor Fedor by a large margin over Carwin, by a little over Lesnar, and by a little over Cain (for now—let’s talk again in a year about Cain). It’s hard for me to tell with JDS. I think Two Saints strikes better, and he has nice little uppercuts that await anyone who tries to take him down, but I think Fedor could take him down from the clinch. Right now, I think Overeem is the toughest opponent for Fedor.

As for Werdum, I think that fight is pretty much tailor-made for Fedor. I think he’ll keep it standing until he lands a nice, juicy strike, and then GnP Werdum into oblivion.

Finally, I take it you’re being a bit hyperbolic when you write that you “don’t see Fedor being able to beat the top 4 hw from the ufc”. You just mean that you’d favor those four guys over Fedor, right? Or are you making the stronger claim that you can’t imagine what gameplan Fedor could use to beat them?

by PlantingaFan on May 19, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should have said I dont see Fedor being all 4 of those guys. He would lose to one of them. JDS could be the best one of the 4 with his boxing. JDS boxing is ahead of all other HW’s and he is rumored to be very skilled on the ground. It seem that everybody had a black belt these days but JDS trains with The noguera brothers and seems to be able to stay on his feat when he wants to.

I think the wild card in the UFC is Carwin. He has some crazy knock out power. I keep waiting for him to have to go past 3 mins of a fighter before he finishes his opponents. So why do you think Fedor would be such a huge favorite over Carwin? Fedor has not fought guys with the size and speed of Lesnar or Carwin, or the Cardio and wrestling of Cain. I would say Cain is a year away from competing for a belt.

by Darren Watkins on May 19, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fedor v. Carwin

Fedor hasn’t fought the size/speed combination of Lesnar, but Carwin is slow, and his stand-up is really sloppy. I mean, really bad. Just look at all his UFC fights. He also sticks his head out, just begging to be tagged (and Gonzaga did it). His shot isn’t that great either. I think Fedor would tag Carwin at will, with more power than Gonzaga did, and would either submit or GnP him once he falls.

Of course, Carwin is Shane, fist of the North Star, so if he solidly hit Fedor it would probably be nighty-night, but I don’t see him solidly hitting him more than 20 or 25 times out of 100 fights.

by PlantingaFan on May 19, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overeem

has a VERY under-rated ground game.

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by Chris Barton on May 19, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO I can see Fedor beating Cain and Carwin, but not Lesnar and Dos Santos. Arlovski was tagging Fedor and doing well, then he deviated from the script. Dos Santos is a much better version of Arlovski with respect to his striking. More KO power and faster… and not as stupid. I really think Fedor will get manhandled by Lesnar. At some point the size gap will become too large, especially when the huge guy has the wrestling talent and brute force Lesnar has.

I’m not sold on Carwin beating Lesnar or Fedor for that matter. Granted he has tremendous power, but he showed he can be stopped (albeit briefly) by Gonzaga. But hey, I could be wrong for sure!

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

show me ONE arlovski punch that landed halfway descent.

by Killuminati on May 19, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arlovski tagging Fedor...

What Killuminati said.

Fedor was slipping almost all of Arlovski’s punches. That fight was not as close as it appeared. (And I definitely thought Arlovski was winning the fight when I saw at normal speed.)

I’m pretty sure there’s a set of GIFs out there in the Interwebs showing Arlovski just barely, but repeatedly, missing or glancing.

by PlantingaFan on May 19, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

respectfully of course.

Lesnar is overrated. He pounded out Mir. So has Vera for christ sake.

I honestly think Carwin will KO Lesnar, but it doesn’t matter who wins, cause Cain will beat either one.

And JDS beating Fedor…… not likely.

Fedor vs Cain would be the fight to see.

Well the weird thing about me is that I grew up fighting and one of my friends introduced me to MMA and I was like, 'Whoa, you mean I can beat up white dudes and not go to jail?"
-Rampage

by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 19, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Fedor beats Werdum and Alistair, we just might get to see some of those fights. I don’t think he gets past Overeem though.

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not every jab is thrown for knockouts. But its hard to argue Arlovksi wasn’t finding some success with his standup against Fedor until he decided for a flying knee. Do I think he would have won the bout anyway? Nope.

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

FEDOR KTFO AA

so what if he landed a few jabs.

Well the weird thing about me is that I grew up fighting and one of my friends introduced me to MMA and I was like, 'Whoa, you mean I can beat up white dudes and not go to jail?"
-Rampage

by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 19, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mo straight up look for the takedown style worked against Mousasi…i have trouble thinking it would against Fedor. This is the guy that was suplexed ON HIS HEAD from what had to have been 6 feet in the air….and turned it into a kimura less than 90 seconds later. Fedor would take him to tappy town via armbar in quick fashion.

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.

by theworldsoldestsport on May 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah that suplex was ridiculuous. Randleman was powerful too. Can’t believe Fedor shook it off like it was nothing.

by ManicPreacher on May 19, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

King Mo.......

Go home.
It’s one thing to say “i want to fight Fedor”
its another to say “i CAN BEAT him”

be realistic Queen Mo

Well the weird thing about me is that I grew up fighting and one of my friends introduced me to MMA and I was like, 'Whoa, you mean I can beat up white dudes and not go to jail?"
-Rampage

by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 19, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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