Joe Lauzon Responds to Brother Dan's Abandonment Claims
by Martial Farts on May 17, 2010 4:45 AM EDT
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PrintJoe gave his side of the story his brother Dan Lauzon is telling about Joe abandoning him in the middle of a training camp.
Essentially, Joe felt that his brother was not giving 100% in training and so Joe would not commit to being in his corner. It seems fair enough, to me. They tried all other possible avenues and the last road available to them was the ultimatum of "train like we tell you to, or we won't corner you", which Dan failed to meet.
When Dan was 14 to 17, he trained like a mad man. He was in the gym all the time, but he is 22 now and that fire he once had is long gone. When he is in the gym, he comes in and works hard. He does a great job helping guys with technical things and teaching more subtle things as well. Unfortunately, he is never in the gym. If he has a fight, he is in sparingly. If he doesn't have a fight he is an absolute ghost.
Now we gave Dan an ultimatum. Joe Pomfret, Steve Maze and I knew we all had to act a single unit. This was all or nothing and we all used the same language and tone with him so there was no misunderstanding. We were very clear that if he failed to train 10 or 11 times a week, we were not going to corner for him. It’s not fair that we all make time for him in Vegas when he can’t do his job beforehand and train.
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I only follow it because I remember Joe from back in the Bullshido days ;)
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The best thing Joe could have done..
was to say “well corner you one last time, then were done”. Its pretty shitty, regardless of how little dedication Dan may have had, to tell a fighter a month before his fight that he’s not gonna have the corner he was planning on the whole time.
I disagree. You have to draw a line somewhere and that line should be at the point that gives the other person the most motivation. If he won’t act right even when everything is on the line; then he never will. It’s not Joe’s fault; it’s his brother’s. If he really wanted them to corner him for the fight, then he would have put in the work.
"Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'' - Ali
I agree that you have to draw a line and stick to it.
My only problem is that they drew the line in the wrong place. They should have drawn the line AFTER the fight and told him they will see him through this fight, but if he doesn’t shape up, he will need to find new trainers after the fight.
I agree.
It is a difficult situation when family is evolved, but when bad things happen, you can usually turn to family.
Leaving someone without his conermen is pretty brutal. They know more than anyone else about their fighter. They know when he’s in a bad spot and what they should do differently. Now you are asking a guy to find new conermen who don’t have that knowledge.
It’s probably not the first conversation the gym had with Dan, but in doing this you leave little room for anyone to leave on good terms. If they do this after the fight it doesn’t sound like they left him out to dry as much.
I think youre misreading it
They DID tell him. They set out conditions. Dan didn’t meet those conditions.
Its like youre boss doesn’t say, “Do x, y, and z, or you won’t get paid,” and then you don’t do any of those things and your boss comes back and says “Okay well we’ll pay you this time, even though you didn’t do anything we asked you to”
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I disagree.
That excuse sounds like the student that complains their teacher “gave” them a bad grade, when the student earned that grade. Not to mention; it’s not drawing a line. You don’t draw the line AFTER the goal, you draw it BEFORE the goal or it means nothing.
If Dan did what he needed to do; then there wouldn’t be an issue at all. So it cannot be anyone elses fault but Dan’s.
"Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'' - Ali
I agree that he probably was taking Joe and the other trainers for granted. BUT, couldn’t Joe have cornered him, then after the fight said were done? Now Dan has to go looking for a camp/somewhere else to train for 4 weeks.
Or...
Agree to train 10-11 times a week for the next 4 weeks, which in turn helps him win the fight.
by Colorado Fan on May 17, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Right...
He should have agreed to train seriously. But he didn’t and now he screwed himself. But as his BROTHER and long time training partners, you would think instead of having a sure-fire loss, they would help him for the last 4 weeks, then be done with him.
I dunno
The thing is, Dan did agree to train seriously, and then he didn’t. He didn’t follow through on his commitment to his training partners, and as a result they’re not going to help him in his bout.
It’s harsh; that’s entirely without dispute and I’m sure Joe feels like a complete asshole, but it’s the right way to handle the situation. Every second of hell Dan goes through during his fight, he’s gonna have to think “Maybe this wouldn’t be so bad if I’d just trained.”
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I get frustrated with Dan Lauzon's inability to deliver on his potential and I'm just pulling for him on TV
…I can only imagine how his brother feels. He’s gonna have to change his nick from “the upgrade” if this right here is where he tops out.
It gives us insight to what’s going on in their camp— but it’s still a dick move. Joe is messing with Dan’s money. What promotion, the UFC or anyone else, is going to want to pay an uninspired, lazy fighter?
Dan will change when Dan wants to change. That’s how life works. Dan will not change because Joe wants him to change. It’s unfortunate, but that’s the way it is.
Maybe Joe is forcing his bro to hit rock bottom with the hopes that he will pull himself back up. That’s probably wishful thinking, but I’d still be pretty pissed if I was Dan.
Dan tried to drag Joe and his other coaches' names through he mud.
I think its a dick move to expect preferential treatment, to lie, and to take your entire team for granted, all before going to the media and telling duck tales. Also, Joe and his team told him much earlier than a few weeks that if he didn’t live up to his end of the deal, that they would be doing likewise.
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