Dan Lauzon tells the Boston Herald that his brother Joe and other coaches have given up on him, just two weeks before his UFC 114 fight with Efrain Escudero:
"This is going to be the first fight I don’t have them in my corner," Dan Lauzon said last week. "They’re not going to be there to support me. It (stinks). I don’t really know what I did to deserve this. I wouldn’t do that to anybody. I wouldn’t do that to my brother, I wouldn’t do that to anyone in my gym. It’s not right."
"He trained better than he did before (the ultimatum), but he still didn’t fulfill everything we wanted him to do," Joe Lauzon said. "We said you need to train 10 or 11 times a week, and he didn’t do that. I don’t think he’s done that one time."
Dan Lauzon disputed that account, saying that no specific guidelines were ever presented to him.
"In my eyes, I was doing everything right," he said. "I was making it to the gym; I was training hard two times a day. I was doing everything right. I was completely blown away."
"I was completely hurt by it, especially my brother Joe. I don’t think anybody would ever do that to their brother. I can’t think of anyone else that would ever do that to their brother and just tell them, ’Hey, you’re on your own.’"
"I think I’m going to be pretty much looking for a new gym and new coaches to train with," he said. "People I can actually count on and rely on and not somebody that’s going to halfway through a camp say, ’Hey sorry, you’re going out there alone, good luck.’ "
Lauzon scrambled to find new cornermen and will have WEC fighter Josh Grispi, "Ultimate Fighter" alum John Clarke and training partner Brandon Chase with him in Las Vegas.
UPDATE: Response from Joe Lauzon
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Dan and Joe have never been that "tight"
and have repeatedly stated that they’ve been more than willing to fight each other.
I think the issue here, as the interview says, is that Joe and the other coaches were concerned by Dan’s apparent lack of commitment to his training.
will any top level gym put up with that? obviously we don’t know the whole story so who knows anyways.
shit's still fucked up
Dan should go to Greg Jackson’s
"It’s going to be like sex with a grizzly bear, you know, a lot of scratching and growling on both sides." - Don Frye
He could train at Sityodtong since it's a short drive for him
but then again, he did that once before his Elite XC fight and left in the middle of doing rounds because people were going to hard….. Mark might not want him back
Head to Cesar Gracie my friend...
They will show you a true brotherhood there.
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"Charlie"
Wonder what the “Innitiation Process” is like there?
"For your information, I would like to ask a question."
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Something along the lines of "Take a hit of this"
Which proceeds to make you look like this…
myspace.com/tbma <--- Give it a listen, let me know what you think.
Proud conductor of the Shane Carwin hype train.
Shane Carwin hits you and even if your payin the bill it doesn't matter. Your lights are gettin shut off.
by II SMASH II on May 16, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
J-Lau's Response
J-Lau posted a response on his site…http://joelauzon.com/blog/2010/05/so-frustrating/
by ItsRDC on May 16, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Who is this bitch that is calling herself the new J-Lo?!?!
R.I.P Ronnie James Dio
by Earl Montclair on May 16, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
My taco flavor kisses
myspace.com/tbma <--- Give it a listen, let me know what you think.
Proud conductor of the Shane Carwin hype train.
Shane Carwin hits you and even if your payin the bill it doesn't matter. Your lights are gettin shut off.
by II SMASH II on May 16, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Generally when you are laying the guilt trip on as thick as Dan is right now, you’re the one whose got a big problem.
by Razzel on May 16, 2010 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
That’s how incest happens. Exposure is a necessary function of interacting systems that often brings more timely forms of social accountability into play.
by Swordstorm on May 17, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t know if you can really compare this to incest buddy.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
by Neil Manich on May 17, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not. I am saying that keeping family problems private often facilitates further abuses that may already be happening. If you had read carefully i wouldn’t have to be explaining this.
I knew what you were saying, but if you had the ability to rationalize you would have realized that some problems can remain private (such as this) and others that are much more serious should be vocalized. Not everything needs to be aired out.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
I was responding to the comment “family problems should stay private” by using incest as an example of things that shouldn’t. I wasn’t contrasting the Lauzon’s situation with that, as stated above i was disagreeing with a statement. I quantified this with the “often” statement in my second sentence. You obviously did not know what i was saying otherwise we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
from what i remember around the new england grappling scene..and some guys I train with..Dan Lauzon isn’t the nicest guy around to put it mildly.
So this sounds about right.
seriously it sounds kinda fucked up
i really hope he wins
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Joe’s response is very thorough.
by dribblebib on May 16, 2010 10:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dan out of the UFC after this fight -250 stays in +220
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
by Neil Manich on May 16, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sucks when two brothers can’t get along, and from the sound of Joe’s blog, Dan Lauzon has some maturity issues. But, not cornering your brother during a fight is kinda harsh. A fighter needs his corner’s input and advice during a fight. Not cornering someone could potentially sabotage that person’s fight.
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Sounds to me like they're just trying to hype up a Dan/Joe fight.
They’ve mentioned it a bunch of times before, I think they’re really trying to push for the UFC to set it up or something.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on May 16, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
I can see Joe orchestrating someting like this.....
but I don’t think this is the situation. But it’s a real possibility I think.
I don't like this.
For two reasons. One, you’re abandoning a fighter 6 weeks prior to a fight, and weeks into a training camp. He is going to lose a couple of weeks transitioning elsewhere. This is probably a win (or fight really damn well) or get cut type of fight, to boot. Not the time to give him tough love. Second, he is making his brother look foolish and weak, in public. He has a fight coming up for g-d’s sake, and while Efrain would have fought his fight, knowing Dan is without his traditional corner and may have lost a few weeks in training, and to read the detail about his lack of cardio, I feel that Joe is revealing a bit too much.
I think Joe should have parted quietly, or offered to corner his brother but without the training commitment, and with an understanding that, win or lose, this would be the last fight that they trained together.
Being overrated is overrated.
"I think Joe should have parted quietly, or offered to corner his brother but without the training commitment, and with an understanding that, win or lose, this would be the last fight that they trained together."
Agreed. Prefight is not the time to come out with this, handle it afterwards.
Hell, if Dan lost that way he might be that much more inclined to hear what his trainers were saying. If he loses now, he’ll more likely chalk it up to being undermined by his brother rather than taking personal responsibility for it.
Still if they did it after, people would’ve said that Joe is just looking for an excuse for Dan and that’s not fair to either guy.
It wouldve been better if they kept it private, but it didn’t so they are probably handling it as best as they can
If you lose and you say ANYTHING, people will jump on you for being a crybaby making excuses. This is the internet, it’s how it works.
There’s no point trying to avoid it. It’s like going to boot camp thinking that you’ll be fine because you won’t do anything wrong.
"It’s like going to boot camp thinking that you’ll be fine because you won’t do anything wrong."
Ah…mass punishment…
Oh no
You’ll get it individually no matter what. They constantly put you into lose lose situations that you have to just deal with. I guess they’re trying to instill the idea that bad things will happen out there no matter what, you just have to deal with them as they arise
crazy bob cook did it to Buentello before his next to last fight in the UFC b/c Buentello wanted a manager to manage him, not a coach.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on May 17, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I have to wonder if Dan would train harder, better at a different gym with a different team.
From Joe’s account, which there is no reason not to believe, it sounds like one of those brother issue in which they simply shouldn’t “work” together.
A different gym, different team might take the personnal aspect out of it and make it easy for Dan to get on with doing his job.
I think Joe did the right thing
A brother who doesn’t want to continue to enable someone they love would indeed do exactly this.
Sounds like Dan needs to grow up. Many of us wish were lucky enough to train full-time and be a pro, he has that opportunity and is wasting it.
Sometimes when people lose something they realize how valuable it really was, maybe that will be the case for Dan.
I think it's really cute that everyone has an opinion on what Dan or Joe should have done
…having just been informed about the situation moments ago.
And I’m sure that Joe and Dan are scouring the internet for your advice.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
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by jemaleddin on May 17, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Spoken by somebody who thrives by giving snappy, snarky judgment.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Oh sure.
But I’m not making fun of the snappy snarky judgers – I’m making fun of the folks trying to advise Joe or Dan like they were their actual friends instead of complete strangers with lives and experience and a family history that none of us really know anything about.
It’s a bit like watching Dr. Phill in action, I’d guess.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
If you like it, you should put a rec on it.
Dan vs Joe
I think it would be a good idea, if Joe beats Dan it might show him that training hard really does help that much.
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