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In an interview with MMA Weekly, Paul Daley says he is moving on after being released by the UFC, following his UFC 113 post-fight attack on Josh Koscheck:

"That’s it. All over. I got my walking papers this morning and I am glad that things are now official. It’s a shame things went the way they did, but on the brighter side of things it opens up a lot more doors for me," exclaimed the British bruiser, adding that his next venture into combat will be on the other side of the world.

"I am fighting on a pay-per-view show in Australia on July 3 with a lot of other big names, and I have other offers in the pipeline."

"My plan is to string a couple of fights together before the end of the summer and hopefully get on one of the grand prix shows. We’re currently talking to both Dream and Sengoku about getting a slot on their shows and there are some really good fighters there I can match-up with."

"Boxing is still an option," added Daley. "One of my training partners is Rendall Munroe and his trainer is currently speaking to (boxing promoter) Frank Maloney on my behalf. I want to do both, fight MMA and get my boxing up to speed, but I want to do them concurrently."

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He might do o.k. in boxing...he does have a pretty SNEAKY hook.

On a serious note does anyone know the “big names” on the Australian Card?

by DayGeaux on May 12, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I love Daley

But he’ll need fall in love with his jab a little bit more to be an effective boxer.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

TBA for sure.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on May 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I think it's the event

with Josh Barnett vs. Geronimo Mondragon and Coleman vs. Shamrock

by Scott Haber on May 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same promotion, different card.

Impact FC is holding a bunch of cards within a few weeks of one another.
July 3rd is in New Zealand. July 10th is in Australia with Barnett/Mondragon.

by Chris Nelson on May 12, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do realize he got outboxed by Nick Thompson………..right?

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by Brian Mayes on May 12, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling I'm going to have to wait awhile

before I see Semtex in a U.S. promotion again.

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by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I don't think Strikeforce will touch him

Bellator might, but I’m with you I’m thinking it’s gonna be years.

by doonerthesooner on May 12, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think that Strikeforce would jump at the chance to get him back

But he clearly wants no part of that suspension, and given his experience fighting around the world, it doesn’t seem like he has much motivation to work things out stateside.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why boxing and not kickboxing?

"If your going to come on then come on!" - Harold Howard

by Bandaka on May 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Kicks are just another decent weapon to use against a guy like Daley, boxing is far better suited for him.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on May 12, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t he a british Muay Thai champ?

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by Neil Manich on May 12, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a heck of a lot of dough in boxing if he’s a) any good and b) can build some hype around himself in that community.

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by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck

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by 49er16 on May 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Kinda surprised he didn't mention Strikeforce as a possible landing spot...

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by punchdrank on May 12, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

This part made me laugh:
The MFC promotion in Canada has a show coming up in August and there is an option for Daley there, according to him. MFC operates on an Indian reservation and is thus exempt from a governing commission. Australia and Japan also both operate sans athletic commission.

A) They don’t operate on the reservation anymore, and are subject to a governing commission;
B) Daley missed weight at both MFC shows he was on;
C) Pavelich has already said he doesn’t want him back.

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by Tim Burke on May 12, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

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by The Kittitas Kid on May 12, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Really?

I understand a sucker punch like the one Daley threw is despicable, but it really couldn’t have happened to a better person in Josh Clownbabycheck.

by lolumad on May 12, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

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by Tim Burke on May 12, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

who are you arguing with at this point?

I mean I get it. You don’t like the guy. You think he’s a thug. You’re happy to see him leave, and eagerly look forward to the next four years of the Shields-GSP-Kos-Fitch wrestling championship.

But who is defending Daley’s actions? You’re responding here to a guy who called it “despicable”. The only question is whether Dana should have banned him for life or maybe thought about it for five seconds and imposed a more reasonable penalty. Nobody is arguing the benefits of sucker punches.

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by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

who are you arguing with at this point?

I was actually talking to lolumad.

I assumed that would be obvious when he replied to my post, and then I replied to his.

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by The Kittitas Kid on May 12, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which was the point

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by Chris Barton on May 12, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

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by The Kittitas Kid on May 12, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daley has fought all over the world and in pretty much every promotion under the sun. I think he’ll do ok outside of the UFC.

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by StevenGiles on May 12, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Why stop at Mike Tyson?

why not compare him to Charles Manson? Or maybe Stalin?

Paul Daley’s professional career dates back to 2003, and as far as I can tell, this is the first time he’s been involved in a violent incident with another fighter. His actions against Koscheck were reprehensible and should be punished, but to label him a “mental midget” and a failure based on one incident is absurd.

Mike Tyson, by the way, was the greatest heavyweight of his generation and one of the best fighters of all time, so he seemed to make the most out of his handicap.

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by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shhhh, this is MMA – hysterical over-reactions are always the order of the day!

by Sink on May 12, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also has shown a severe inability to make weight, missing 3 times in his last 6 fights. That shows a lack of mental fortitude as well.

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by Tim Burke on May 12, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Among other things, Mike Tyson got convicted of rape and bit a man's ear off,

on the way to earning his label as a mental case. The case against Paul Daley now consists of him taking a single cheap shot (that mostly missed) and not being very good with a sauna. Not the greatest of parallels.

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by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The analogy IS correct though. Both are mental midgets. Sorry you don’t like the comparison, but it’s obviously not meant as a direct parallel.

And if you really want to get into it with logic…have fun getting eaten alive.

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by Tim Burke on May 12, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The analogy IS correct though. Both are mental midgets.

No he isn’t. Repeating it doesn’t make it any more true.

In reality you know an exceptionally small amount about the man – certainly not enough to give a meaningful psychological analysis and it’s tremendously arrogant of you to think otherwise.

And if you really want to get into it with logic…have fun getting eaten alive.

Uh, how nauseatingly sycophantic.

by Sink on May 12, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big word make Beer Monster angry! Must respond with more big words to show me smarter!

Stay on the sidelines for this possession, goober.

Then you tell me why a professional athlete intentionally stuck his fingers in his opponents eye and attempted to punch him in the face after the bell. He’s not exactly a scholar.

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by Tim Burke on May 12, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Losing one’s temper is not evidence of stupidity, it’s evidence of poor impulse control. Smart people lose their cool all the time.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, you got me, wrong choice of words. By the way, here’s Paul Daley’s last apology for what he did when he lost his cool. You know when that was? His last fight against Hazelett.

“It’s not very honorable to stand over a guy after you just knocked him out and shoot him in the head with a pretend gun. That’s just not cool. Then to wind his coach up a little bit by laughing, it’s not a cool thing to do but you know when you’re full of adrenaline you do stupid things.”

That was 4 months ago.

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by Tim Burke on May 12, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s your point? You’re desperately throwing shit at the wall hoping something will stick.

Doing a lame shotgun action after a fight and then apologising for it 30 seconds later is about as minor a transgression as it gets. Lot’s of fighters do stuff like that and no-one gives a shit.

You said something silly and couldn’t back it up – don’t be mad homie, we’ve all been there.

by Sink on May 12, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Smart” is context dependent. If you’re a fighter, doing things that seriously could, or do, impair your career makes you stupid, or at least should under a reasonable definition of “stupid”. Regardless of how Daley would fair on a Stanford Binet, he has demonstrated low, you might say, “situational” intelligence — at least enough for me to agree that he is in fact “stupid”. Is he as “stupid” as Tyson (who I would actually guess is someone who, in the right environment, would have turned out to be very intelligent)? It’s tough to say but if he keeps it up he’ll get there!

by The Darkness on May 12, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That still doesn't follow

The entire argument for Paul Daley’s stupidity would seem to hinge on a single incident that occurred immediately after a superheated fight.

In interviews he is funny and clever, and he has demonstrated a canny knack for self-promotion that wouldn’t seem to be the product of a weak mind.

It is true that he committed an act that reflected poorly on him and set his career back significantly, but again, it was only a single act, committed in the heat of passion.

As I said elsewhere, smart people can lose their tempers just as easily as dummies, and I don’t think most of us would care to have our entire mental state determined based on our behavior during our worst-ever moment.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear you saying it, but I don’t see you supporting it. The only evidence that you’ve provided to support your argument that Paul Daley is a “mental midget” is that he a) took a cheap shot at the end of a heated fight and b) missed weight three times. That’s pretty shoddy evidence on which to base a psychological diagnosis.

As for being eaten alive, thanks for the warning. I’ll do my best to contain my terror.

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by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have supplied the evidence. You’re discounting it. That’s completely up to you. That doesn’t mean it’s not right there in front of you. And if you think calling someone a “mental midget” is going as far as making a “psychological analysis”….wow. I think I’m just gonna stop now.

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by Tim Burke on May 12, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So far in this thread, you’ve said that Paul Daley “lacks mental fortitude,” is a “mental midget,” and is “not exactly a scholar.”

I’d say that represents an analysis of Paul Daley’s psyche. It’s not a very good one, and it’s based on virtually nothing, but it’s an analysis all the same.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got a ticket for a parking violation.

I’m comparable to a child molester because we both committed a crime, right?!

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by pdl on May 12, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW,Daley has gone off and “retired” at least once or twice before,complete with online messages saying goodbye to his fans and all that.Then a few months later,he’s back.

Saying he’s unstable isn’t an unfair statement.

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by Brian Mayes on May 12, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

By that standard, Brett Farve's mental state is suspect...

which as I think of it, is probably the case.

Look, I don’t know Paul Daley anymore than anyone else on this board does. I’m just saying he really hasn’t exhibited the sort of public behavior that would lead a reasonable person to assume that he’s a “mental midget.”

He is funnier and more eloquent than most fighters in interviews and gives no indication of being any dumber than any other fighter. The fact that he made a catastrophically bad decision in the heat of the moment doesn’t speak to his intelligence one way or another, but rather to the fact that he has some anger management issues, which isn’t exactly a novel occurrence in fighters.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on May 12, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

Daley isn’t an idiot, if you listen to the guy talk this is abundantly clear, he just clearly lost it. If Kos was annoying the living daylights out of me, neutralizing my fight game, and whispering sweet nothings into my ear at the same time, I might be inclined to do something worse.

by lolumad on May 12, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Daley did was completely classless

but referring to a professional fighter as a “pussy” is a bit silly within itself don’t you think?

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by Fake Emcee on May 12, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

that reply landed nowhere near where I was hoping.

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by Fake Emcee on May 12, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too Bad.

Good Riddance Daley! Have fun fighting in B-rate promotions for the rest of your life.

by Ghost Face Killer on May 12, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

And you, sir, have fun anonymously taunting people who will never read your words on the internet.

by Chris Nelson on May 12, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

If mmalogic didn’t post It seems I’ll id get is wonderful couplets like this. FFS

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