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How's Taste My Tweet Tweet? Mixed Martial Arts on Twitter for the 2nd Week of May

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A few updates on what's been going on in the MMA Twittersphere.

 

TWEETS BY THE MULLET

"just met @migueltorresmma and he was cool as f*ck. makes me remember meeting roger huerta and how he was a douche! btw congrats toby imada!o"  -Joey Beltran, but isn't he so dreamy?

"Dear person who took my shopping cart at Target today, I had stuff in it. It was obviously being used. I will find out who you are."  -Amir Sadollah

"Airport security asks what kind of mouth wash is in this bottle. I say the tequila kind. He says what. I say its ok, I'm Mexican."  -Miguel Torres

"In the airport restroom, I was washing my hands and speaking to myself loudly in the mirror. There was 7 other people in the room. A man asked why was I talking to myself in the mirror. I say I wanted to talk to the only other intellegent person in the room."  -Miguel Torres

"Kid asks me, why are you so great? I say, if I'm so great give me 20 dollars. Kid says hell no. I say I aint that great."  -Miguel Torres

"New Mr. T or Old Mr. T, who wins in a fight? Im goin wit the old school cause he is a night elf mohawk. -Miguel Torres, referenced this commercial.

"Who wins in a fight, Old Mr. T or new Mr. T? The best reason wins a signed @eckomma tshirt by Torres and Cotto. Get u some."  -Miguel Torres, starts a twitter contest.

"@MiguelTorresMMA The Old Mr. T. slept with a pillow under his gun. I win."  -Kenny Florian

"@Kenny_Florian I hate u so much, f*ck you and your blue steel wit. This is the answer to beat, dont let kenny win this people."  -Miguel Torres, had to pull that Zoolander card.

Star-divide

TWAINING

"15th May @ St. Louis, USA - Strikeforce. Not thinking about giving my title away. Now training... I'm training hard right now and I'm happy to fight in the USA and show that I'm the Strikeforce champion... Yes I'm in the USA. Together with Martijn 'the specialst' and Roberto the master Coaches"  -Alistair Overeem

"Watching the NBA playoffs and I tend to focus on their running form. If he'd just lift his legs when he runs, he could get there faster ;)"  -Natasha Wicks

"I'm a peeing machine! Ugh! 2 gallons of water a day for 3 days before weigh ins...water trick is annoying but helps cut 4 lbs easy! ...Water trick-u force down 2 gallons a day for 3 days...body keeps peeing...24hrs b4 weigh in zero water. But body thinks it still needs to Keep peeing. Anyway long story short it helps u cut 4 pounds or so easy. The rest sauna suit and treadmill....ugh... 13 pounds left to cut...haaaate ittt!"  -War Machine

"I am not fighting until August or September, need to make sure that my forehead heals well. Till then, twattin and trainin."  -Miguel Torres, I already have a word for that. "Twaining"

 

SHOGUN HOOOAH!

"meu cinturao. Hhheeeeyyyyyyy... Thanks to all you for the support! It's a dream come true, and it was just amazing. Thank you guys, it's all because of you, the fans! ...And happy Mother's day yet again to all the Moms, my mom and my wife Renata, mother of my baby girl Duda =) ..."  -Shogun Rua

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"Hahaha! I love Daley! Awesome! That's what Kos gets for faking!"  -War Machine, on Daley's cheap shot.

"I'm sorry I let y'all down.. Im ok just dissapointed... Thnkxx again for all y'all supporting me.. It gives me motivation to move forward..rough morning though"  -Kimbo Slice

"Did I miss something ? Just finishing the deal for toney and every ones talking about shogun . Love to fight him but toney first ! He must Have called me out and I missed it . Great performance by rua . Id love a crack at him after toney in aug . Maybe rua in oct :) ufc 120"  -Randy Couture, probably not going to happen. Sorry.

 

MO HATERS MO LAWAL

"Its funny how brainwashed some of yall ufc groupys is....lol...its a bunch of bored ***** ****... call me racist...i know its da truth... Yall some zombies...what would yall do if shields beat gsp? Its called marketing...yall keep fallin for the same shit... Yall the ones that bought into the hype about mousasi, and look what happened. Yall make it seem like people unbeatable...lol... For yall idiots that think that im trippin...im done bitin my tongue...look at the mma crowds, music, and the words yall usin... Tool, douchebag, stfu, and other words like dat aint used by my potnaz mayne. Yall clowns think yall hard..come c me face 2 face... Come c me face to face wit and be wit dat SOS....and put on hull... Btw...i aint talkin down on no fighters...im just tellin some of the zombies to open they eyes up. I love mma...ufc, sf, dream,sengoku, etc... Them pussy ass haters on twitter can say what they say on twitter but u betta miss me wit dat bullshit face to face."  -King Mo

"To them haters...thanx for helpin me kill time...im only gonna respond to logical comments from here on out"  -King Mo, then went on to respond to dozens more.

 

OCTAGON GIRL BEEF

"@lostanton I hope the Octo girls were handed their scripts for when they're asked about the Koscheck fight: "They were really good!" ;)"  -Natasha Wicks

"Some people should take some communication classes when trying to represent one of the biggest companies in the world #imjustsayin booooom!"  -Arianny Celeste, I think someone, (who denied having octogirl beef), felt a little left out... booooom!

"@chip_jordan not hatin Chip, making fun of the past situation.. Hating would be if I made fun of your ringside sunglasses ;)"  -Natasha Wicks, got a number of negative responses from twitter and even from some MMA bloggers who took things too seriously. (you know who you are)

"Thanks @stantonsgrave @supergalo @matthew_kurtz haha you guys get it! Gawd, people are so sensitive.. Relax and laugh about life :D"  -Natasha Wicks, teh internet iz seriouz business.

 

TWITPICS & RANDOM TWEETS

"Old picture!! I took this cuz no one belives me that bouncers in the clubs in hbg wear mma gloves, even better they wear @ufc gloves..."  -Phil Davis

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"The new Hardy Boys - @danhardymma and @jeffhardybrand join forces; villains around the world quake with fear"  -UFC

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"El Negro pimpin the KCBandit tee... -Jason High

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"My hot chic team about to kick team MMA 30's butt at dodgeball!"  -Chandella Powell

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"My mom and I getting our windy hair on in Vegas! Love my mom"  -Natasha Wicks

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"D'Yer Maker ;)"  -Natasha Wicks, gets +20 brownie points for that Led Zepp shirt... I have the exact same one also... Mine's not cut off shoulder of course, that would be weird.

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Wow someone else is up this late too.

by Bob Boblaw on May 12, 2010 5:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I just got a craving for chicken adobo and tocino.

by Bob Boblaw on May 12, 2010 5:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

My good friend is Filipino and his wife is from Guam. Their BBQ’s can put you in a food coma.

by Bob Boblaw on May 12, 2010 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pancit! Thank God for Filipino girl friends :)

by MikeD32 on May 12, 2010 9:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

…and lumpia until you have to lay down…

by truck on May 12, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

nothing better than a nap after some lumpia

by Bob Boblaw on May 12, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m quite partial to Pan de sal bread. My 2 yr old nephew calls it “Panda bread.” It’s like eating pandas. Yummy pandas…

by pud333 on May 12, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

What’s warmachine up to?

by Soylent 6reen on May 12, 2010 6:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Attempting to stay relevant.

by Bob Boblaw on May 12, 2010 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Torres didn’t want to admit that he was talking to the hole in his head, “anybody in theeeeeeere….?”

"- His nickname is "fly", so I look forward to see him fly out of the ring after I punch him.
- He says that I'm known as a "fly"...but flies like shit, so I'm gonna be all over you."

by dancingChicken on May 12, 2010 6:22 AM EDT reply actions  

he was talking to the snake.

which was also the reason why the kid asked thought he was bad ass.

by Anton Tabuena on May 12, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is going to haunt my dreams tonight.

Energy is felt once the cards are dealt
With the impact of roundhouse kicks from black belts
that attack, the mic-fones like cyclones or typhoon
I represent from midnight to high noon

by TitanFan2K on May 12, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I ♥ you Natasha Wicks

You + Led Zeppelin = Teh Awesum

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade

by Damon O. on May 12, 2010 7:12 AM EDT reply actions  

How did I know that

War Machine would back Paul Daily?

by DayGeaux on May 12, 2010 8:04 AM EDT reply actions  

king mo

sure has a way with words

"Live fast, die."

by Bonedoctor on May 12, 2010 8:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Don’t you mean a way “wit” words?

by Estrada on May 12, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

wit wurdz

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so xxxxxxx stupid." – Phil Baroni

by keyboardwarrior on May 12, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s how my potnaz would say it, mayne.

I write about basketball players with Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.

by Scott Schroeder on May 12, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is right, though. Most mma fans are just Zuffa zombies, even the supposed hardcores.

by frosnt1 on May 12, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea but it goes both ways though. I mean it’s not like the Zuffa haters are the most sane thinkers either.

Sports in general doesn’t lend itself to sane rational thinking. At least when it comes to supporting one’s own team or hating all other teams.

Just BE.

by mattman73 on May 12, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

God Bless

Bloody Elbow for continuing to post Natasha’s Tweets. I’m actually live in Harrisburg and it’s hilarious that Phil Davis Tweeted that about bouncers at clubs. It’s really lame.

"The fact that you constantly self censor yourself makes you like a flavored type of flavor"

by Dr. Doogie Seacrest on May 12, 2010 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Enough Natasha

Does anyone actually still care about Natasha Wicks? Just ignore her and she’ll go away

by AutoFAME on May 12, 2010 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmph

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade

by Damon O. on May 12, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

go away? I want her to come back!

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so xxxxxxx stupid." – Phil Baroni

by keyboardwarrior on May 12, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Logan.

"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.

by VeeisAnimated on May 12, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want them both back

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so xxxxxxx stupid." – Phil Baroni

by keyboardwarrior on May 12, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think she misses you too!

"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield

"A good word that I got from the Mike Tyson Documentary... I'm going to absolutley decimate this motherf**ker, I haven't been in the dictionary to see what it actually means but I'm guessing it's going to be something in the way of just killing a motherf**ker." -Paul Daley (on the definition of Decimate)

by WeaponElDeem on May 12, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus christ. I don’t care if she calls Koscheck a liar a hundred times, please do not fire her.

"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-

by Neil Manich on May 13, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still care… best ring girl ever.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

by Patrick Tenney on May 12, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

BEST EVAH

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade

by Damon O. on May 12, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

You go

ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.

by Chris Barton on May 12, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Who do you prefer over her? The undeniably hot body with a 13 year old girl inside or the horse woman who might as well be a cardboard cutout? At least Natasha has a brain which she uses. I doubt I’m the only one turned off by dumb and or lifeless girls.

by Clockula on May 12, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope you're the one

When a beautiful woman talks I usually can’t pay attention to what she’s saying anyway

by DayGeaux on May 12, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually hate Celeste.

I can’t stand her, and I love Wicks. Wicks also seems to be about 100x more fun, seemed way more excited about the ring girl gig.

Follow me on Twitter @lelandroling
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by Leland Roling on May 12, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I feel...

… the sudden urge to play some dodgeball.

by loydb on May 12, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Dodgeball is sweet!

I was in a dodgeball leage last winter… If I have time I will join again this winter. Super fun!!

by truck on May 12, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Chandella, your team mates are hotter. That is all.

Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo

by ANance on May 12, 2010 10:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I can’t believe Miguel Torres has a single follower with his awful, incredibly unfunny shtick.

Follow me on Twitter: @MMANation.

by Luke Thomas on May 12, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Torres has some of the most interesting material on Twitter.

"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.

by VeeisAnimated on May 12, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t say much for twitter.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

by Patrick Tenney on May 12, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree...

Anyone who talks about mullets and being Mexican is alright in my books.

by truck on May 12, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s 30 year old guy who looks like 15 year old kid and has 80 year old man’s grumpy sense of humour. Bad combination.

"- His nickname is "fly", so I look forward to see him fly out of the ring after I punch him.
- He says that I'm known as a "fly"...but flies like shit, so I'm gonna be all over you."

by dancingChicken on May 12, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on May 12, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vigo the Carpathian??

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal

by TheViking83 on May 12, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anyone doesn’t deserve a twitter following it is War Machine.

He hasn’t contributed a heck of a lot to MMA and doesn’t really tweet much beyond repeatedly stating how he is not gonna be a criminal anymore.

by truck on May 12, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

War Machine tweets some absolutely crazy things. He’s a must follow just for the freak show.

"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-

by Neil Manich on May 12, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man what’s with you and Brent hating on some fighters who like to mess around. Torres is hit or miss, but its better than following somebody who only tweets about cutting weight.

"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-

by Neil Manich on May 12, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miguel Torres

Was at NAGA Chicago to support his school. Seemed like a pretty cool guy!

by IpullguardIRL on May 12, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

What is a “potnaz”? Urban dictionary doesn’t have it.

Ribbit.

by Ben Thapa on May 12, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

See also: partners

Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo

by ANance on May 12, 2010 11:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Amir,

It was me. You had “Axe Whatever” in there and I didn’t want to walk all the way to the aisle to get girl-approved hair.

Condolences,

Me.

"Hit me up on Twitter @ IDontHaveATwitterBecauseIhaveAFuckingLifeAndDontCareWhatEveryoneElseIsDoingOrThinkingEverySecondOfEveryFuckingDaySeriouslyKnockItOff

by Earl Montclair on May 12, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

King Mo

Maybe poker’s just not your game. I know! Let’s have a spelling contest!

Por isso eu tomo ópio / é um remédio / sou um convalescente do momento / moro no rés-do-chão do pensamento / e ver passar a vida faz-me tédio

by Gremio on May 12, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

KING MO = BS

Funny how King Mo talks Shit to fans who don’t like him. I think he is a legit top 20 LHW, but he isn’t top 10. He says Mousasi was OVERHYPED, and now he is the one that is OVERHYPED. To me it sounds like he is saying the UFC LHW fighters are overrated, but would King Mo REALLY beat guys like Rashad, Machida, Rampage, Anderson, Shogun, and Jon Jones? Hell No. Would he beat guys like Forrest, Thiago Silva, Couture, Vera, Jardine, Bader, and Phil Davis? Maybe.

He needs to face right now he is still a one dimensional fighter and he needs to continue to work on his stand up and BJJ. He is a GREAT wrestler who hasn’t fought GREAT competition outside of Mousasi who he says himself was overrated.

by JCBee on May 12, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd favour everyone on that list but Phil Davis over Lawal

Mousasi was obviously extremely overrated, and that transfered over into Lawal. Mousasi should have droped a bunch and lawal should have moved up to around 15 IMO

by truck on May 12, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL…

Vera? Vera would probably get taken down and pummeled. Thiago Silva would DEFINITELY get taken down and pummeled. Bader vs. Mo is a good fight.

Follow me on Twitter @lelandroling
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by Leland Roling on May 12, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you see how he "pumelled" Mousasi?

did you see his gas tank?

…and right, I bet someone will bring up that I’m biased, or that I hate King Mo. I like the guy, and I was rooting heavily for him against Mousasi, but even though he won, there was nothing impressive about how he performed… a decent prospect with good wrestling, but that’s what he is. a prospect.

by Anton Tabuena on May 12, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you going to copy and paste this comment into every piece that has a King Mo reference?

by BradCr on May 12, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it correlates with the article!!!! If you don't like it don't reply!!!!!

I posted this one first and i changed it slightly for the other article.

by JCBee on May 12, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

decaf…its works wonders

by BradCr on May 12, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

King Mo would destroy every single fighter on that list. The myth that wrestlers need to be multi-dimensional is dying. No one can stop Mo’s takedown.

by frosnt1 on May 12, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Myth is dying?!?!?!? LMFAO

I guess thats why Mark Coleman and Kevin Randleman were just dominating guys after the sport evolved. If he was that good, people would be going to train at his gym and he wouldn’t be going to train at theirs. He may have the best wrestling in MMA but this isn’t wrestling and that isn’t enough to dominate at the top of the sport.

by JCBee on May 12, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

GSP, Shields, Chael Sonnen, Brock Lesnar, Koscheck, Davis, etc etc etc. Of those listed only GSP has any striking to speak of, and even then it’s not his avenue to victory.

All the others rely completely, or are able to rely completely, on wrestling alone to win fights. The only complimentary skill that is really necessary is sub defense.

The reason Coleman and Randleman aren’t dominating is because they were 1) Old, 2) Not as good wrestlers, 3) horribly out of shape, 4) poor sub defense.

by frosnt1 on May 12, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of the fighters you named have proven they are legit over time and experience and can rely on their wrestling but it isn't their only option.

GSP = 3rd degree black belt in karate, black belt in BJJ overall complete fighter.
Sheilds = black belt in BJJ and beaten top competition (he’s not a wrestler).
Sonnen = has talked his way to a title and will be destroyed by Anderson. 10 losses in his career.
Brock = Size advantage that really can’t be seen outside the Heavyweight division.
Koscheck = brown belt in BJJ, has shown he has evolved to be more than just a wrestler because it is needed.
Davis = blue belt in BJJ and has already won two fights via submission.

by JCBee on May 12, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Shields began amateur wrestling at age nine. He has competed in over 600 folk, freestyle, and submission wrestling matches. Shields was a four year varsity wrestler and state qualifier at Calaveras High School, finished 2nd place at the Amateur Athletic Union National Freestyle Championships, qualified for U.S.A./ Fila Nationals & World Team Trials in both the junior & university men’s divisions. He is also a two time All American wrestler from Cuesta College.” -wiki

Not to mention his exploits at Cuesta CC earned him a d-1scholarship offer at San Francisco State. Didn’t really start hardcore Jiu-jitsu training until he joined Cesar Gracie in 2001

by Stillberry on May 12, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t want to down play Sheilds’ wrestling ability, but those accomplishments pale in comparison to the truly accomplished wrestlers in MMA. Kos, Fitch, Brock, Sonnen, Rosholt, and c. In fact even Mir arguably has a better wrestling pedigree considering he was a state champion in high school. Although California is one of the hardest states to make the high school state championships in due to its size and lack of divisions, he didn’t even really place. His MMA wrestling is better than his pedigree would appear. Also I’m not certain but I think CSUSF is d-2.

"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-

by Neil Manich on May 12, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fitch's pedigree is always mis-stated

i was simply responding to the guy who said Shield is “not a wrestler”.

also, Fitch’s wrestling pedigree ain’t that great. he’s another guy who’s MMAwrestling outshines his pedigree. his college wrestling record was something like 37-50.

as for San Fran State, you’re right about D-2, but it’s one of the perennial powers of D-2. Shields was already starting to pursue MMA by the time he was in college, so he dropped out after 2 years at Cuesta. His HS stuff, in addition to his success in open tourneys (2nd AAU freestyle nationals is no joke) puts his pedigree on the same level as Fitch.

As for Mir, Nevada isn’t much of a wrestling state, and nationwide HW is a weak ass weight class.

by Stillberry on May 12, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t know that about Fitch. I always just hear the Purdue wrestling team captain and leave it there.

"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-

by Neil Manich on May 12, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

he must have gotten Captain based on leadership, hard work, and academics

by Stillberry on May 13, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fitch’s work ethic alone was probably enough. Its fun having these wrestling conversations with you. With all the jits experts on this site, its strange how hard it is to have a real in depth conversation about wrestling.

"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-

by Neil Manich on May 13, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am biased...

but midwest wrestlers>west coast wrestlers.

by MMAWrestling on May 13, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am also biased, but I still think the whole Iowa mythology is just that, a myth.

"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-

by Neil Manich on May 13, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i’ll admit, Midwest and PA are the best. Virginia, Maryland, Jersey, NY, Mass, and Cali are next. Then it’s Wash, Ore, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah. The southeast and Texas actually kinda suck balls at wrestling because they won’t let their high level athlete football players join the wrestling team

by Stillberry on May 13, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

also, it doesn’t require excessive wrestling success at the highest levels to be able to have great MMAwrestling, as long as you can use your head, which Fitch and Shields can.

For example, i’m 23, wrestled from 8-17 heavily, moderately from 18-20, then took 3 years off with no working out at all. qualified for Marlyand states twice, won 2 and went out in the quarters both times. 1 month ago, i signed up for gi and no-gi classes at a legit gym in my area, and after the 2 days it took to get my cardio back, I could easily take down and throw nearly anyone in my class. a couple pro kickboxers, blue belts, purple belts, all put right on their asses. i still get subbed often when i put them down, but the wrestling is highly effective

by Stillberry on May 13, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh this is entirely true, I wrestled heavily year round from 10-18, and then stopped when I got to college. Haven’t wrestled since, and I miss the hell out of it. I’m 21 now. I haven’t trained any bjj yet, but maybe you know, why don’t jui jitsu practitioners work a spiral ride to set up their hooks? I used to ride legs and this was always my set up.

"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-

by Neil Manich on May 13, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

because the guy on bottom isn’t afraid of going to his back and getting pinned. so wehen you spiral ride, they’ll hook your elbow, tuck their should and hip out back into full guard

by Stillberry on May 13, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

But if you can slide your hips out with them it will work just like a sit out. You can take there back, put your hooks in and stretch them out right? Or does this not work at all in practice?

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by Neil Manich on May 13, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

No wait, of course that wouldn’t work. If you’re running a spiral ride you would be teed out. Duh.

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by Neil Manich on May 13, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

i mean, nothing is set in stone. you can pull off lots of stuff just by understanding the leverage and making sure you fully commit to movements. i’m still just a BJJ infant, but the biggest, most common tip i’ve gotten it that i have to adjust my wrestling instinct to account for the fact that you dont win by putting a guy flat on his back. the learning curve does seem to be a bit faster for me than guys with no wrestling background

by Stillberry on May 13, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

In a few years it will be bizarre to see a fighter with absolutely no wrestling background for that very reason. The UFC reaching the mainstream will do wonders for high school wrestling.

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by Neil Manich on May 13, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think the BJJ-background type guys will be able to continue to adjust. i think it would be very beneficial for up-and-coming BJJ guys to bring more Judo back into the JJ training mix. Judo is a good counter to wrestling and also has a good bit of the same offensive advantages

by Stillberry on May 13, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends

on whether we’re talking about gi or no-gi jiu jitsu (or mma). Judo relies heavily on obtaining superior gi grips before initiating throws. Although judo techniques can be roughly translated into no-gi throws and sweeps via collar ties and over-underhooks, good old-fashioned collegiate and greco style wrestling will nearly always win out sans gi.

That said, high level bjj guys are becoming extremely adept at both takedowns and takedown defense (see Jacare). The evolution in competition bjj in recent years has moved from pulling guard and working off your back to working the takedown to top control special (sound familiar?) Any decent bjj school now employs at least one instructor that has a high level high school or collegiate wrestling background. For schools that rely heavily on the gi, you’ll almost always find a judo brown/black belt or two as well. If my goal were to train mma, I wouldn’t want to train at a school that doesn’t have all of the above, along with at least a brazilian jiu jitsu black belt. Although this isn’t possible everywhere, most larger cities will have academies that will have these resources.

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by Rudinho479 on May 13, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

And also per the heavyweight thing, so true. There was a hw on our wrestling team who was nationally ranked briefly (stopped wrestling for football in college) and he’d always try to brag about it. We’d always make jokes about him wrestling candy bar lovin fat kids.

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by Neil Manich on May 12, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected. wasn't aware Shields had that wrestling background. Thanks for the info.

Still though on my main point he has a strong BJJ game to go along with that wrestling. something King Mo doesn’t have right now.

by JCBee on May 12, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having Sub Defense

makes them more than one dimensional…

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by Chris Barton on May 12, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

I can’t see why you all think natasha is hot

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by GOLDIGGAH on May 12, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I think she's fairly hot

but I don’t understand all of the clammoring over her. I much prefer Logan and Arianny over her (in that order) but to each their own, for sure.

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by TheViking83 on May 12, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because we aren’t blind?

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by Patrick Tenney on May 12, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

King Mo is the worst

That’s all.

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