Where's Your Jiu Jitsu, Playboy: Patrick Cote and the Kimura at UFC 113
by Mike Fagan on May 11, 2010 2:34 PM EDT
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Patrick Cote returned to the Octagon at UFC 113 after eighteen months of inactivity following surgery to repair a knee injury he suffered against Anderson Silva at UFC 90. After a slow start, Cote picked up steam and seemed to find his striking form as the fight pushed into the second frame.
His work on the mat didn't look as polished.
Cote eventually let opponent Alan Belcher win the fight when he allowed Belcher to slam him face first after a stalled double leg attempt. Cote lay stunned on the canvas before returning to his knees, allowing Belcher to take his back. One rear naked choke later and Cote's comeback in front of a home crowd met a bitter end.
It's Cote's kimura attempt from inside the half-guard in the first round that I want to look at, though. I had Belcher slightly ahead at that point, but with a takedown and time to work, Cote had an opportunity to win back the round. In going for the submision, he gave Belcher a huge window to reverse the position and end up on top. What went wrong?
Before the jump, here's Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira showing the kimura from inside the half guard:
In the first GIF, we see Cote has established half guard and applied the figure four to Belcher's right arm. He throws a knee, in all likelihood, to distract Belcher from what he's doing on the other side of his body rather than an attempt at doing significant damage. As "Minotauro" showed above, Cote has a couple of options here. First, he can finish from half-guard. It's not ideal and Belcher would probably be able to defend, but it's an option nonetheless. The other option is to pass: either with the intent to finish from side control or using the kimura as a threat to improve position. What does Patrick Cote do?
Now, I am not a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu expert. I have less than twelve months of training in my life, but I knew right away that this was Not a Good Idea. Throwing the leg over the head is the correct move - once you've established side control. At my BJJ class the Monday after the fight, I asked my instructor (a brown belt under Jack McVicker of Team Megaton) about this sequence, and he knew what I was talking about once I said "Patrick Cote." The problem, he said, of throwing the leg around the head from half-guard is that you essentially have yourself doing the splits and, consequently, destroy your base. Look at how far apart Cote's legs are. And with his hands gripping Belcher's right arm, he has no easy way to base himself if Belcher tries to sit up or bridge. Let's jump ahead a few seconds and see what happens.
Belcher, a BJJ brown belt, sits up and sweeps Cote, and, after a brief scramble, establishes himself in Cote's half guard.
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perhaps the best title ever
you should add playboy after it though
"Your not gonna jab and shoulder roll your way away from Brock Lesnar; He is gonna fuck you." - Joe 'High as Fuck' Rogan
by KingAtRock on May 11, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
what is the reference?
"It’s going to be like sex with a grizzly bear, you know, a lot of scratching and growling on both sides." - Don Frye
There was no “playboy” in the original title.
"- His nickname is "fly", so I look forward to see him fly out of the ring after I punch him.
- He says that I'm known as a "fly"...but flies like shit, so I'm gonna be all over you."
by dancingChicken on May 12, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions
no, I meant what is "Where is your [insert noun], Playboy" referencing?
"It’s going to be like sex with a grizzly bear, you know, a lot of scratching and growling on both sides." - Don Frye
I had debated whether or not to use “Playboy” in the title. On second though, it’s hot.
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by Mike Fagan on May 11, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone knows you cannot Kimura Johnny Cash!
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I knew exactly what Cote was doing when I saw him start for it. I trained for a year at Fabio Holanda’s BTT Canada school in Montreal a few years ago. Holanda loves the kimura and teaches this kimura from the half-guard. I’m not sure how smart of a kimura is, but Cote was doing what he was taught to do.
Btw, in case it wasn’t clear, Fabio Holanda is a BJJ instructor of Cote. He was in Cote’s corner. I think Cote actually meant to turn to his back because that is the way Holanda taught the move ending. Cote’s real problem was that he didn’t keep a hook with his left leg on Belcher’s left leg. That allowed Belcher to escape. It is a risky kimura to try and it didn’t work out.
Yeah – that left leg is key. If you look closely, Belcher actually stuffs the leg which allows him to escape. It’s a very subtle move, but it keeps him out of a potentially bad spot. Belcher should be credited for recognizing the danger and defending appropriately.
by zorba on May 11, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve never seen this leg-over-head from half-guard before. It took all of his weight off Belcher and totally gave him a back door sweep. Seemed like a dumb idea to me, because of exactly what Belcher did in response. He totally gave up his position for a submission—and if you haven’t even sunk the sub, that’s never smart.
Sure glad Lesnar got his shit straightened out.
he's lucky
he didn’t get hit with a banana split. Got a brown belt I roll with that loves them. He would have made me pay dearly!
Is his name Lamonte? Because there’s a brown belt that hits me with them…..
Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
by Patrick Tenney on May 11, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I roll at a couple different places around the area to try and get as much different training in as possible, Lamonte runs morning classes at one of the places I go to in Springfield, Lamonte also goes to Capital occasionally from what I’ve seen.
And yeah, his banana split sweep from half guard is really really good, you either give up the sweep or the submission if you aren’t looking for it; not that he wouldn’t/hasn’t finished me with other stuff, but I just try not to give him the double unders in half guard so he can’t shoot me up over his body and hit the move.
Small world!
Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
by Patrick Tenney on May 12, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
You should come to
one spirit alexandria on sunday from 2-4. I run the Sub. Wrestling club. Always looking for guys from other schools to roll with. Experience levels vary from beginners to brown belts. Normally around blue belt level guys rolling though.
Just come up and ask for jerry. They’ll point you toward me.
Might take you up on that! Gi or No Gi?
Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
by Patrick Tenney on May 12, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Spot on. The only thing I want to throw out there that when Cote threw the leg over the head, if he had switched his orientation so he dropped his left shoulder instead of right shoulder to the mat and went for a roll over, he could have finished the kimura in an adapted position.
Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
As soon as he threw his leg over Belcher’s head I knew he wasn’t going to get it. I was trying to figure out why he would do that instead of working for the finish from half guard, something I’ve personally had success with, which he was perfectly set up to do in the first gif. After the knee to the side, stretching his free leg out to form a base on that side and lowering his chest to Belcher’s would have given him a fairly firm position to work on the kimura.
Maybe Cote should watch some Krzysztof Soszynski fights to see how the kimura works from the top of halfguard.
Anyway, excellent article, I always enjoy these breakdowns after events.
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Excellent Article.
I’m sure it’ll be said a thousand times but something didnt seem right when he swung his leg around. Never touched BJJ (thinkin about it this summer) but it just didn’t look like a proper transition.
Keep it up so we can understand what went wrong with some past submissions. Like how GSP couldnt submit Hardy or Mitrione’s submissions attempts against Kimbo.
"Where's Your Jiu Jitsu, Playboy?"
is one of the best lines ever.
“The problem, he said, of throwing the leg around the head from side control is that you essentially have yourself doing the splits and, consequently, destroy your base.”
Did you mean the problem was throwing the head from half-guard, because he was still in Belcher’s half-guard when he threw the leg. His base wouldn’t have been dominated as badly if he had actually secured side control first, and, consequently, he would have had a better chance at success had that happened.
I did. I was probably thinking about how you throw the leg over from side control, which is proper. Thanks for pointing it out.
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It’s a legit way of finishing the kimura from half guard. I’m pretty sure Stephen Kesting goes through this exact kimura sequence on his Dynamic Half Guard DVD.
If it’s the same move, he’s actually trying to roll Belcher over and finish it from the bottom, and is therefore giving up the top position intentionally. The leg around Belcher’s head would then prevent Belcher from rolling out of the kimura if Cote gets Belcher’s arm out away from his body. It’s a pretty sloppy execution of the move though, and Belcher does a good job of stuffing Cote’s left leg. Cote needed to keep that leg hooking Belcher’s left leg to make the move work.
The way I was taught to finish the kimura from half guard was by getting the guy onto his side, before putting the leg over the head. So, in this case Cote would have pulled Belcher up on his left shoulder, and then would have stepped over. I think this is how GSP went for it against Koscheck in their fight.
This should be the start of a series
Even if I personally find the ‘playboy’ part offensive, it IS a riot!
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haha
it’s catchy I guess, a lot of people are using it now, it’s like the new BROCKLESNAR! line
Eu, sou brasileiro, com muito orgulho, com muito amor♫
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something I've wondered
What’s the meaning behind “POOOOOOOOOOO-AAAAAAAAAAAAH”
Basic translation?
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by Matthew Roth on May 11, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
are you talking about when brazilians say “BOOOAAAA”
It means good i believe. But the direct translation of “good” doesnt sound as cool. I think of it as a collection of words we would use in english when someone does something good in a BJJ tournie
yeah
it just means “nice”. when they do a good move the corner goes “niiiiiiiiice”, to give support for their fighter.
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Thank you Brazilians!
Much appreciated.
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by Matthew Roth on May 11, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
anytime brother :p
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Porra. It something like universal swear-word. But I’ve heard that it also can have positive meaning (describing excitment?).
by dancingChicken on May 11, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
when I first saw people using it in the forums I was taken back a bit, but now I was able to sleep on it and let it go. it’s been so overly used that it’s meaning doesn’t seem so strong anymore :p
Eu, sou brasileiro, com muito orgulho, com muito amor♫
June 10th can't come soon enough, for another star is needed!
putz cara
cuidado, o povo daqui eh muito chato com essa palavra (que no inglês eh bem pior que qualquer outra), isso pode fazê-lo banido…
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Obrigado, irmão
Eu não quero que isso aconteça. Apenas tentando ser engraçado! Desculpem-me por o meu português a ser tão ruim. Falo pior, eu sinto!
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né comigo não
eh mais com o povo daqui fraga, eles levam isso a sério. de onde você é? Pensei que fosse brasileiro :p
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Let's see if I'm understanding right
Orcus: Watch out for that word, there aren’t many words that are worse in english, it might get you banned.
esquilinho: I don’t want that to happen. Sorry, for I am portuguese.
Orcus: Where are you from. I thought you were brazilian.
If this is even sort of right. I’m getting better at reading portuguese.
that's pretty good dude
although he didn’t say he’s Portuguese, so I’ll give you a B- :p
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Vou responder na minha língua nativa
I’m from America. But I’m learining portuguese from my bjj instructor. Something to help at tournaments ;)
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Great article
I’d like to see more of this kinda stuff.
I’ve taken a little BJJ and I knew something was wrong with this but not what, keep it up!
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
Alan Belcher
Fine, Cote made a mistake. (OH YEAH, great article and break down.) But take a look at Belcher’s fight against Dennis Kang. You have to give Belcher his props on the floor. While many people like to mention that Kang makes mental errors, Belcher has proven that he knows how to remain calm and take full advantage of any opening, survive and win.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Belcher, as VeeisAnimated pointed out, took the opening and swept him. But it’s Cote’s mistake that gave it to him.
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This should be an ongoing series...
ala Judo Chop, and How Not To Punch… Showing why someone was not able to finish a sub, or the reason why they were swept etc are different than the usual analysis which centers more around offensive maneuvers.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
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