Dana White Says Winner of Rampage Jackson vs. Rashad Evans Gets Title Shot Against Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
by Nick Thomas on May 10, 2010 7:04 PM EDT
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In an interview with Carmichael Dave:
CD: Shogun’s manager recently said that if Randy Couture gets past James Toney, he could see Randy being Rua’s first title defense. Is that a possibility?
Dana White: The winner of the Rampage Jackson vs Rashad Evans fight will get the first shot at Shogun.
Check out the full interview at khtk.cbslocal.com.
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Rampage please
I need to see Shogun whoop his ass again.
howa bout
Rampage vs lil nog
winner gets rematch with ShoGun
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by SouthCaliStunNa on May 10, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
But that would not be a string you see.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Nice poster
I wish UFC would use something like that. And the winner should get Rua.
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
by donkeypunch on May 10, 2010 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
WTF
Rashad gets KO’d by Machida, beats Silva, now he’s up for a title shot already??? Shouldn’t Rashad have to rematch Machida before going back for the belt? Because I remember that KO as being pretty vicious, even if Rashad doesn’t remember it.
So, if the #3 guy beats #9 and #4 and that isn’t enough for a title shot? Especially with the former #1 getting ktfo in 3+ minutes? A lot of people have done much less to justify title shots. If we use MMA math, pretty much everyone is greater than everyone and no one would be justified in getting a shot. I’d rather Rampage win and fight Shogun again, but if Rashad wins, he deserves the shot.
by mjw2e on May 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Shogun got his first title shot by beating two fighters with a combined age of 80. 2+2 = 4 isn’t how match-making works.
Vote Quimby
by mason_beer on May 10, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Exactly, people forget that before Shogun fought Machida the first time many people were saying that he didn’t deserve a title shot.
it was kinda a gimme shot.
there was just no one left to feed to Machida. Funny how things work out.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
Well,no.
Rampage was supposed to fight him.The problem was,Spike absolultley had to have him for their upcoming season of TUF,because their last season with Bisping and Hendo had just sucked as far as ratings went.The problem was,Machida didn’t speak good enough English to coach it with him.So,they put Rashad on there,which turned into ratings gold,and gave Shogun the title shot.
And everybody absolutley CRIED about it at the time,because Shogun was only coming off of two wins,one of which was a life and death struggle with a half dead Mark Coleman,and the other was a quick KO over a completley shot Chuck Liddell.
Oh,how they’ve changed their tunes now………..
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by Brian Mayes on May 11, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Zombie Coleman is a real threat to any top 10 brain.
He could easly devour several…as long as they don’t run too fast.
Obviously Randy didn’t get that memo.
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by Brian Mayes on May 11, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh,I got the joke.
I was just trying to make one of my own.
We both failed,obviously.
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I WANNA SEE rAMPAGE VS SHOGUN
BUT i think Rampage has a ton of ring rust and i think Rashad is gonna be too quick those are my feelings but i want Rampage to knock him out. I just love when he said " i don’t know if u even gonna wake up homeh!"
by Dr Tyronious on May 10, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Shogun will beat all of them. Everything between now and Shogun vs Anderson Silva is just noise to me. It’s like fucking the Lindsay Lohans of the world waiting for the weekend with Megan Fox to roll around.
shoguns got 2 more fights lined up… Andersons got 2 more… then we have the most epic fight in history.
Besides Anderson it’s gonna take an elite wrestler with excellent grappling skills to beat shogun. Niether Rampage nor Rashad fit that description. Jones at his full potential? possibly.
Shoguns Wrestling sucks but his jitz is awesome. In MMA Shoguns bottom game is almost as good as Maia’s and that’s the only reason he’ll be able get away with having shitty wrestling for the time being.
Shogun will defend the title more than Rampage, Forrest, Rashad and Machida could.
by mmalogic on May 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I like the way you think, but these next Shogun fights are going to be awesome fights. Don’t act like these fights are some ol lindsay crotch shots because they are way better than that.
by ZephyrBrasil on May 10, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah these fights are like the First Brittney crotch shots... you know when they meant something..... or something????
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
“In MMA Shoguns bottom game is almost as good as Maia’s”
Stick to what you’re good at (hint: it’s not analyzing fights).
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by Mike Fagan on May 10, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Shoguns jitz is phenomenal
also did you see how fast he got back to his feet?
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by SouthCaliStunNa on May 10, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Stick to what you’re good at… (hint: I have no idea what that is but if i did it would be almost as useless as your comment.)
by mmalogic on May 10, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shogun has a very good game off of his back. But I would enjoy hearing your break down as to why his game is near Maia’s.
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by Mike Fagan on May 10, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would like to see Shogun whoop on Forest to avenge that loss. To ur point, Shogun is just going to be tuff to beat, I like Bones Jones but not till next year, till then, it’s Shogun’s world
by Brian Burdios on May 10, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Maia level BJJ……….but yet the only guy he’s ever tapped is Randleman.
And he couldn’t tap Coleman to save his life.
Interesting………
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I said his bottom game in MMA. Machida’s breathing changed dramatically after trying to remain on top twice. Shogun finished him soon thereafter.
Machida’s breathing changed dramatically because they were pushing an unbeliveable pace,mostly because Shogun kept flying at him with punches and kicks.The only thing Shogun’s bottom game had to do with that is that it kept Machida from being able to stall out and take a breather.All Shogun did was sweep and get up,which Machida didn’t fight off.
You act like he ran game on the man with 25 different submission attempts from the bottom.
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by Brian Mayes on May 10, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Then it must be called wrestling.
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by Brian Mayes on May 10, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Except that its from the bottom, utilizing jitz moves.
by sadface on May 11, 2010 2:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BJJ is not onlyabout submission holds.
Maybe this is what you meant.
by HarmlessNinja on May 11, 2010 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A good reason why I think it’s stupid that Couture took a fight that does absolute dick if he wins and makes him obsolete if he loses. I was hoping he would make a final run at a title because despite the younger guys who are sick fighters, Randy always manages to find a way to win or at least make it a good fight….most the time. Throw him into the mix and the next three or four ppv’s will have some insane LHW fights at the very least.
by One Time Hero on May 11, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t worry,Randy isn’t going to loose to fat old James Toney.You saw UFC 1,right?
You want to know why Randy took the fight with Toney?Because it will create a lot of hype,ala Matt Hughes-Royce Gracie,or Frank Mir-Brock Lesnar,or heck,even his own fight with Lesnar,and it will rake in a huge amount of PPV buys,especially once you add in the fact that BJ Penn is also going to be on the card.And Randy gets a cut of the PPV money.
So why in the world would he not want to take a high profile fight,against an absolute rube of an opponent,for big money?He’s just going to come out,double leg Toney,punch him in the face a few times,and choke him.An easy day at the office.At the same time,he gets his name out there,more new fans get to see him,he’s in the main event of one of the biggest events of the summer,and he gets a high profile win.It’s good business all the way around.
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lol thats funny u talk as if you know what u are talking about , this is real life anybody can get it fool
yes rampage beats them all and is back as the UFC light heavyweight champion i dont see what u are talking about , Rampage has the best stand up boxing and hardiest punches in the light heavyweight , i kid u not , i petty the fool who boxes with him , cuz they won’t but sho gun will and guess what TKO Rampage wins
by Real raptors fan on May 18, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmmm!!!!
Last time I saw Rampage fight an former Olympic wrestler (Hendo) his wrestling and top game looked formidable to me. Rampage is such a better fighter now than he was back in Pride!!
And Rashad has never been tapped and he is a much better wrestler than Rampage, so you do the math.
I understand you’re a Shogun nuthugger, but don’t loose your intelligence in our community. Jones is able to beat Shogun right now, his striking is a lot more dynamic and his takedowns are better than Shogun’s TD defense. Shogun has him with the BJJ and x-perience.
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions
And Rashad has never been tapped
He’s been KOed… and Shogun is good at that.
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He’s been KO’d once, and Shogun’s been tapped twice, whoop de doo da!!
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Lmao. A clearly gassed and injured Shogun got tapped by Forrest Griffin. Cool. His other submission loss was to Babalu and that was like his fourth or fifth fight in his career.
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ok
Gassed = Shoguns’s fault (I’d say cage rust)
Injured = he just won 8 weeks after getting his appedix removed.
Don’t get me wrong, I love watching Shogun fight but I don’t think he’s the GOAT! That title will belong to Jones someday!!
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
An appendectomy is actually pretty minor as far as surgical procedures go. He probably couldn’t train for a week or two because of the stitches. That’s not really comparable to major knee injury.
Meh- doctors said he shouldn't train for 8 weeks
appendectomy is nothing to fuck around with.
Of course, Shogun fucked around with it, and went back to training 2 weeks later. Hey, to each their own
by Body Triangle on May 11, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Hella long time ago, and Shogun just ate the guy for lunch that make rashad look silly. Plus, Rashad had a lot of trouble with an injured Thiago Silva (back was f-ed), and Shogun is a level 9000 Thiago Silva.
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Based on his examples he doesnt understand the difference between grappling and wrestling.
Rashad could waste all his energy and he’ll likely get the takedowns… but the point is Shogun is more dangerous off his back than Rashad is from the top. Rampage’s offensive wrestling isnt that great and he cant handle too many kicks… Shogun kicks alot harder than Forrest Griiffin.
Shogun will eat either Rampage or Rashad for lunch. A guy like Randy Couture who hasnt aged will be Shoguns biggest problem… Jon Jones fits the bill once his sub and sweep defense and potential is fully realized. That will be shoguns biggest problem.
Shogun is a very difficult puzzle… imagine a guy almost as good and as fast as Anderson on the feet and almost as good as Maia off his back, and can pound the shit out of you from the top like Brock Lesnar… and you have one tough nut to crack.
His only vulnerability is take down defense… and I cant think of a guy he cant handle from the bottom at this point.
Shogun best get a sponsor on the back of his neck if he fights any of the black men! LOL JK
Rashad can lay and pray with the best of them. Did you not watch Rashad’s first couple of fights? Grappling and wrestling all correlate together, give me a break. I guarantee you that Rampage would eat Shogun for lunch nowadays, just like he did to the Axe Murderer!!!
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Id take that bet
I guarantee you that Rampage would eat Shogun for lunch nowadays, just like he did to the Axe Murderer!!!
Rampage is not the same fighter, but ShoGun is BACK, and the destroyer of old.
I’d rather see Lil NOG/Rampage and the winner get the title shot!
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by SouthCaliStunNa on May 10, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
1.please stop capitalizing the G in Shogun because Mauricio Rua isn’t named Shonie Gunderson and trying to go all “KenFlo”
2. Shogun Rampage and Shogun Lil Nog are both fights I want to see so let it happen and you won’t regret it bro
by ZephyrBrasil on May 10, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i will not, but i appreciate the concern
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by SouthCaliStunNa on May 10, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
lol@ Shonie Gunderson going all "KenFlo"
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
Rampage is the rightful #1 contender and has been for a while. He does not need to do anything special to get a title shot and beating Evans is more than enough for a title shot. Lil Nog has to beat someone who is in the top ten to get back to the title shot or there has to be no options.
Rampage >>>>>>> Lil Nog in terms of priority as of right now.
by MichaelJ1985 on May 10, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you know who arona is? He is the godfather of lay and pray and puts Rashad to shame. Shogun Oma’d Arona in like 5 seconds and was on top pounding the shit out of him. Even though it’s very easy to take Shogun down it’s impossible to keep him there. Shogun would kill Rashad. Rampage has nothing for Shogun.
The fight will sell but dont bet against Shogun.
Arona had just gone fifteen minutes to a decision with Wanderlei. Shogun went 6 minutes with Overeem. No need to add any context to that though.
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Wait Rampage’s offensive wrestling isn’t all that great? How so? Also Shogun being as good as Maia ? I mean Jesus man! And now Shogun has GNP like Brock? WTF!
by MichaelJ1985 on May 10, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage’s offensive wrestling is not good at all; why anyone would think otherwise is baffling.
by The Darkness on May 11, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
What u dont know anything , anything can happen in a fight, its called a fight
Rampage has both Wrestling style locked including roman style fool u dont watch none of his fights , he a veteran, please do your home work kid , hes good trus me or hell he will break your back trying , that why his name is Rampage Fool
by Real raptors fan on May 18, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
If Thiago Silva didn't gas himself out that would've been 2 KO losses in a row.
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yes
also if he hadn’t somehow lost his killer instinct and decided to go all clown on us us.
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by Body Triangle on May 11, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
The irony of this entire post is killing me
I understand you’re a Shogun nuthugger…
Coming from someone with the handle JONBONESJONES79, you’re calling someone out for being a nuthugger?!
but don’t loose your intelligence in our community.
I’ll let you work on that one for a bit.
Jones is able to beat Shogun right now…
I really like Jones. A lot. But to say he could beat Shogun right now, is, well, loosing your intelligence. Dial it back a notch, hero.
by GoHorns on May 10, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Jone’s would give a better fight than a majority of the names being thrown out there, I’m not guranteeing a win but he’d be a worthy opponent!
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah man, he needs to develop a lot more. Shogun’s clinch work and his MT would go for Bones’s long legs and that would take all of the explosiveness away. Jones can’t suplex with no legs, and Shogun’s offense would deconstruct him. Plus, Jones couldn’t hold Shogun on the ground even if he got him there.
Let your dude develop or rather be more humble like he is.
by ZephyrBrasil on May 10, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear ya
I just don’t understand the matchmaking sometimes. Why would they want him fighting the Janitor after he just wiped the floor with Vera (Who really just beat Randy)? I understand that you don’t want to throw him a title shot, but at least let him fight a Thiago Silva or Forrest type
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree with that, but take it this way: this is the calm before the storm. Jones, T Silva and Lil Nog, plus Machida (can we please stop forgetting him) Forrest and maybe Randy and Bader are now " in the mix". While now we are seeing some kinda weak matchups, we will see in the future several permutations of awesome in the LHW division. Shit imagine a faux LHW tournament with these top dudes.
by ZephyrBrasil on May 10, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Simple reason they actually like Jones and they are looking to build him. 205 has plenty of exciting fights avaliable no need to rush a 21 year old kid regardless of skill. I understand their position completely.
by MichaelJ1985 on May 10, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
BJ Penn
They gave BJ a title shot when he was 22
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP
GSP was 22/23 when he fought Hughes. How old was Mike Tyson when he won the title?
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
iron Mike was 20
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
Then he lost and didn’t reach his full potential until 2008.
Also, in case you haven’t noticed, things have changed a bit since 2002 in MMA. There have been just a few minor tweaks here and there.
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by Ubernoober on May 10, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
What’s changed from that time? Those tweaks, did they hold back a freakish BROCKLESNAR from winning the UFC Heavyweight Championship in his 4th fight?
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree/disagree
I believe you’re correct to some level on the caliber of athletes, but I think the main difference is the evolution of the fighter from then compared to now. That still doesn’t warrant Jones not getting a better quality oppponent.
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The Janitor is a very high quality opponent and a good test for Jones.
by HarmlessNinja on May 11, 2010 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Considering he’s better than everyone he’s faced thus far,Vladdy is a VERY good test.
I guess if Jones isn’t fighting Top 5 competition,folks ain’t interested……..even though the best guy he’s beat thus far is Brandon Vera.The same Brandon Vera who couldn’t beat Keith Jardine not all the long ago.
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Frankly, I'm interested no matter who Jones is fighting.
And in no hurry for him to get a title shot. The dude is seriously young and there is no need to rush him to the top.
by Razreshat on May 11, 2010 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
People probably wouldn't be as upset if
Vlad had be on a card that somebody actually watch within the last handful of years. Getting beat up by little Nog on an Aflliction card doesn’t count.
HW is the weakest division in MMA, and LHW is a shark tank. There is also a line of much more established and experienced contendors waiting for a shot at the gold.
No need to rush Jones into a title shot until he is at his absolute best.
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I gotcha
I believe HW “was” the weakest division in the UFC when Brock came through initially, but that has changed IMO, I believe that the MW division is the weakest now. I’m not saying the UFC should give him a title shot this second, but his quality of opponents needs to go up and not down IMO!
by JONBONESJONES79 on May 10, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It will, once the Shogun/Machida/Rampage/Rashad/Lil Nog/Forrest/T. Silva/A. Silva nonsense sorts itself out over the next few months.
Bones will get one more tune up should he beat Vladdy, and then it’s off to mix it up with the big dogs.
By that time he’ll be about 23, which was well within range of the examples you set out of early title shots (BJ: 22, GSP: 23, Tyson: 20).
You can relax, it’s not like he’ll be wasting away until he’s 30.
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Excuse me, but there seems to be some BROCK in my LESNAR.
MW is not the weakest
It’s stagnant. There’s a difference. The mw division in the ufc is full of talent there’s just a large gap between most of the fighters and the current middle weight champ. For brock there was no depth in his division. HW is still the weakest division, it’s just a more exciting division right now because of all the movement.
by JaeeJaee on May 10, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
MW is still pretty weak...
Ignoring the champions, I’d say:
Shane Carwin
Cain Velasquez
Frank Mir
Junior dos Santos
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
are pretty well on par with:
Chael Sonnen
Vitor Belfort
Nate Marquardt
Demian Maia
Yushin Okami
MW has a little more depth, but both divisions are a pretty weak.
No, MW has been and will remain the weakest division in MMA. The #3 MW is a bloated WW who is at best the 5th best WW in the world (which isn’t meaningless given how strong the top of the WW division is). There is a talent gap between Silva and the rest of the division however.
by The Darkness on May 11, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Wholeheatedly disagree
MW is the second weakest division in the ufc. HW is the weakest by far until recently. Until we see how everything sorts out with the “young guns” velasquez and dos santos we won’t know. I still consider HW the weakest. Given the Fact that Nog has his best days behind him and most of the mw are still getting better, that strikes one off your list.
also keep in mind the gatekeepers of mw are much deeper then the gatekeepers of hw. MW is just lacking contenders.
MW has been the weakest
for years. There haven’t been any real contenders to Silva since he beat Franklin. Basically, the division sucks. You have Belcher and Sonnen as the best MW’s in the UFC behind Silva. Thats pathetic.
by Johnnynumber5 on May 11, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
At the top
It’s stagnant. in the middle it is much deeper then heavyweight. And Belcher is not a top contender by any means. Sonnen’s wrestling is some of the best out there.
HW is the sum of its contenders at this point. Very little excitement outside of the contender situation.
what Jones can beat sho gun or machida there human fool , plus the kid is crazy good
he ain’t chicken shit to fight nobody and hes crazy good , your a fool ,fool
by Real raptors fan on May 18, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
also Randy Couture vs Jone <<<<< JOne wins 2 roound TKO
That Kid to wild for Captain America
by Real raptors fan on May 18, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I wanna see Shogun Nuthugger vs Jones Nuthugger. Now that’s a fight!
Lemonade was a popular drink, and it still is. I get more stunts and props than Bruce Willis- Guru
I can’t fight myself.
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by Ubernoober on May 10, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Norton
is one of my favorite actors!
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by SouthCaliStunNa on May 10, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s just something about that whiny little voice (swoons)… wait that guy makes my man-labia shrivel.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
wow
man-labia…fucking disgusting.
This word has now been added to my vocabulary! Thanks!
by Body Triangle on May 11, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
please win rampage, even though i hate you
so i can watch you get KO’d and i don’t have to watch rashad try to employ the greg jackson strategy and win on points by takedowns
The Greg Jackson strategy
Is to submit your opponent by nipple-tweaking…yourself.
by Body Triangle on May 11, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
We should all be glad that this news has been announced. I don’t think Shogun vs Randy Couture excites anyone, besides casual fans.
Although I want Rashad to teach Rampage a lesson, I also want to see Rampage vs Shogun 2. Ahh, quite the dilemma…
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
Let's scrap Anderson's fight with Sonnen!
And have Anderson Silva v. Rua right now. We all know Sonnen is going to get his ass kicked by Silva. It’s like the whole Josh Koschek v. GSP fight hype. We all know Kos will get his ass kicked, but it’s about the best fight you can put together for GSP at this time. Well things have suddenly changed for Silva. Let’s take advantage of it!
No, I want to see everyone’s head explode when Sonnen grinds out a decisive UD over Silva. I will not and should not be denied this opportunity.
by The Darkness on May 11, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
You know
I’m not even interested in the LHW division anymore until Bones Jones gets a shot.
Rua will get sloppy and unmotivated after a fight or two, Rashad isn’t that good, and Rampage doesn’t want to fight.
But everybody is riding on a Rua kick……so that’s going to be fun.
so do you feel like jones is top 3 lhw ?
by Richard Doughty on May 10, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
this Jones hype is getting silly. I like the guy, but I’m sort of starting to root for him to lose now. Lets see him fight Forrest Griffin or something before we crown him the next king of the division.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
You had me until you implied that beating FG would lead to Jones’s being crowned king of the LHW division.
by The Darkness on May 11, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Already figured the winner of Page/Evans gets first crack at Shogun...
…I figure Rampage will be the favorite going in, and he does have a good shot at winning, but if he sleeps on Rashad, he risks getting edged out by Evans, IMO.
If he sleps on Rashad it will make for a whole lot of cuddling...
Rashad is going to sleep within the first round…
I seriously think Rashad is going to KTFO Rampage. Just got a feeling. i think he wears Page down with some LnP for a while, than catches him in the 3rd. Rampage is a born fighter, but i think Rashad will fuck up his focus and take advantage
I sadly
think you’re right.
It all depends on how easily Rashad can take page down. If he takes him down more than once in the first two minute then he’s going to win really really easily.
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I think it will be a calculated manhandling. Rampage is too one dimensional to me. I think Rashad wins this fight easy via decision (from numerous takedowns and passes). I can see Page catching him square and getting a KO but I’m sure Greg Jackson is planning for this already.
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by WeaponElDeem on May 11, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
When is the last time you saw someone take down Rampage
and make numerous gaurd passes?
the only edge I see for Evans is speed.
Griffin passed him a few times, also Rampage is coming off a long lay off… Evans has not only the advantage in speed but on the ground as well and is not suffering from Dana White’s “Ring Rust”. If Rampage can find a home for his hands, sure he wins. But he is going to have to neutralize Rashad and his ground game…which he won’t be able to do. Rashad wins on points VIA a better gameplan, and a more complete game.
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
"A good word that I got from the Mike Tyson Documentary... I'm going to absolutley decimate this motherf**ker, I haven't been in the dictionary to see what it actually means but I'm guessing it's going to be something in the way of just killing a motherf**ker." -Paul Daley (on the definition of Decimate)
by WeaponElDeem on May 12, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if Rashy will be able to get Page to the ground.
Bad back Thiago Silva stuffed half of Rashads takedown attempts.
Rampage is a large LHW, Evans is small. I’m thinking Rampage / Hendo replay.
Even if Evans scores a takedown, then what? He had zero striking to offer Thiago Silva.
(he landed just over 20 strikes through out the entire fight, gnp included)
Evans doesn’t have good enough leg kicks to work the Griffin / Jardine gameplan.
Evans doesn’t have much of a chin and Rampage won’t let him recover when he rocks him.
Page shopuld be abe to keep the fight standing and land some killer shots…
I don't like this.
Shogun already beat Rampage, and Machida beat Evans. So it’s one of those match ups that nobody anticipates.
Yeah well who cares if Shogun beat Rampage before. That was then this is now. Wandy had 2 viscious KO’s over Rampage back in the day and what happened on the next go round? Wandy got put to sleep. The past doesn’t mean shit.
by rolex81 on May 10, 2010 8:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but who else is there? only Forrest, Nog, and Machida have any credible argument to be up there; They’re not gonna do Machida again, Forrest is injured and will def get a tune up coming back from that, and Nog is way too new to the promotion. Unless you want to wait over 6 months for another Shogun fight, it’s gotta be the winner of this
Forrest beat Shogun and Rampage
But Rashad beat Forrest….
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
Kind of have a title shot by default situation here.
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I’ve never seen this much man love in one BE post before.
Shogun is going to kill everyone at 205.Then he’s gonna whup up on Anderson Silva.
Except before then Jon Jones is going to show up,and beat Shogun in a kickboxing match.Then he’s going to slam Rampage straight through the mat.Then he’s going to move up to heavyweight and fight Brock Lesnar in the thunderdome.
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by Brian Mayes on May 10, 2010 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Jones is good but beat Rampage LOL LOL LOL the MAn name is RAMPAGE FOOL
watch he fights He’s Crazy too
by Real raptors fan on May 18, 2010 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny how people never seem to learn from the past, didn’t we just get over the ridiculous Machida era hype?. Now we have the Shogun era nonsense, please Shogun was taken down at will and outgrappled by Forrest who tapped him. Now he’s unbeatable on the ground and will beat superior wrestlers like Couture and Evans who are great at top control? gtfoh with that Shogun fans.
i agree whole heartedly
however the Forrest Griffin fight was 2 and a half years ago, you could have left it off. I think the LHW division is like the LW division at this point. The tops guys can all beat each other on any given night. The best is only the best by a narrow margin and if you come in at less than 100% you are getting put away. Jackson, Evans, Machida, Rua, Silva, Griffin, LiL’ Nog and probably a few I forgot. Any one of these guys beating another on any night would not surprise me in the least. I say we are lucky to be fans at a time like this. Sit back and let the magic happen.
by JaeeJaee on May 10, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Completely irrational expectations FTW!
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by Earl Montclair on May 11, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Considering he’s the last guy to beat Shogun and is possibly 1 win away from getting a rematch Griffin’s name right now has as much relevance as anyone in the LHW division.
by Nightwhistler on May 11, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
very true
as highlighted by my point. I was just saying using the Griffin argument isn’t necessarily pertinent, as so much time has passed and the man that beat Machinda wasn’t the same one who was mauled by Griffin. But back to my key point, all the above names will eternally be in the mix for a title shot. In any other org they’d be champions right now.
AHHHHHH NO GIffin suck Rematch with Rampage he'll still lose he sucks
by Real raptors fan on May 18, 2010 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I repeat JAce THE fool, GRIffin Sucks , he Garbage , Like yourself Never win again
repeat the man can’t defeat anyone else in the UFC , I bet his next opponent will be John Jone , and u know whats gonna happen TKO TKO TKO , There Fool that’s worthwhile for u TKO Griffin Lover
by Real raptors fan on May 19, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
the truth.
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
"A good word that I got from the Mike Tyson Documentary... I'm going to absolutley decimate this motherf**ker, I haven't been in the dictionary to see what it actually means but I'm guessing it's going to be something in the way of just killing a motherf**ker." -Paul Daley (on the definition of Decimate)
by WeaponElDeem on May 11, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Taken down like 2x is “at will”? And that was injured Shogun, and it’s pretty obvious the difference to anyone who as paid attention.
And BTW, Couture is shot, and can’t take a shot to save his life anymore. And Rashad has very good TDs, but awful top control, because he’s too small and too short and gives away space for guys to scramble. And I’m a fan of both of those guys, but their weaknesses are clear.
I kinda wish this wasn’t said before the fight. It was kind of true anyway but the promise of a title shot makes people fight funny…
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Some explosive athlete-on-explosive athlete crime is gonna do down!
by Holls Hoyce on May 11, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Goldberg and Rogan’s veiled commentary for ‘big strong black guy’, is ‘explosive athleticism’, lol. No one is as ‘athletic’ as Jon Jones, and no one is as ‘explosive’ as Rampage..haha
YUP YOUR so right about that
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by Real raptors fan on May 18, 2010 2:53 AM EDT reply actions
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