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Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: The Half Guard Sweeps of Wilson Reis Upend Shad Lierley at Bellator XIV

Photo by Esther Lin. Note, this photo wasn't taken at Bellator XIV.

Bellator's second season has featured some of the more technically interesting fights I've seen this year. The second show of the season was no exception as featherweight Wilson Reis showed a dizzying array of sweeps from deep half guard that repeatedly put his opponent -- wrestler Shad Lierley on his back.

The techniques that Reis used so reflect the dramatic advances made at the higher levels of jiu jitsu over the past decade and a half. They're only now beginning to make it to MMA. While Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira's amazing array of sweeps from half guard hinted at what is possible, the next wave of guard innovations are a dramatic step forward.

I will be the first to admit that I'm a good decade behind the latest BJJ theory, so by all means go out and learn more elsewhere, just please come back to our comments and share what you find or already know.

Here's a little bit about the Deep Half Guard position from the esteemed Grapple Arts site:

In the Deep Half Guard you are - as the name implies - deep underneath your opponent's hips. Typically you are trying to keep your body turned onto its side, and can control either your opponent's hip (1st picture) or your opponent's thigh (2nd picture) with your top arm. The legs can do a variety of things, including triangling around the opponent's leg, butterfly hooking underneath it and more.

The Deep Half Guard is primarily used for sweeping your opponent and has very few submission attacks available from it. This position and some of the techniques associated with it was the subject of a Grappling Tip post on our Blog. To date it has not found a lot of application in mixed martial arts competition, probably for fear of getting punched in the face. Perhaps a future competitor will yet come along and offer some new insight into using this position in an MMA context.

Reis definitely showed how to use this position in MMA at Bellator XIV. The secret was really getting in and out of the position as fast as possible. Reis' attacks were a blur to the untrained eye, all that was immediately clear was that one second he's on his back under Lierley and the next moment Reis is on top.

I asked BE reader AboveThisFire to break down the moves gif by gif in the full entry. This will spare him the effort of correcting my mistakes in the comment and give you, the reader, more insight to the techniques on display.

I'd also recommend checking out Marcelo Garcia's book The X Guard to learn more about innovative guard play.

SBN coverage of Bellator XIV

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Gifs by Chris Nelson.

Take it away AboveThisFire:

117wpjo_mediumIn the first gif we see Reis initiating an elevator sweep from half guard to set up an x-guard or deep half (he's got two options depending on how Shad's left leg reacts to the right leg raise putting him off balance). He could also try to finish a full sweep from here but it's higher risk.

 

 

 

 

Mtt4c5_mediumBecause Shad had to post the left leg in a different position after Reis used the elevator setup to put him off balance, Reis is able to lock around Shad's left leg and execute a single leg stand up (a la Marcelo Garcia) and then he just tips him into the high single takedown while sweeping the standing foot out as well.

 

 

 

J5chti_medium Reis is executing a partial setup to go to deep half (full deep half is not a good idea in mma... lets you get your face punced in pretty easy) but he hooks Shad's leg to open it up and create space/put Shad off balance, Reis tris to shoot out the backdoor hooking his arm up and over on the hip trying to spin out all the way and execute another sweep or single leg stand up.

 

 

 

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In the fourth gif Reis shoots the entire deep half and goes for what's called a "Homer Simpson Sweep" (or Three Stooges sweep, named after Curly (or Homer) running in a circle while laying on the ground, which is essentially the motion of the sweep from deep half. Jeff Glover has youtube vids for more.

 

 

 

 

2qs48ic_mediumHere Reis simply unbalancing Shad, trying to grab a foot, Shad doesn't want his foot taken so he moves directly in front of Reis giving Reis butterfly guard with double unders.

 

 

 


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Immediately, Reis pops his legs out behind him from butterfly, posts his feet, drives forward with the double underhooks and executes a normal bear hug type takedown.

 

 

 

Essentially all of his stuff is half guard, x-guard and deep half are just specific half guard positions. Reis is using his hooks (feet) to move Shad's legs off balance and then he sweeps/stands or improves position.

It might be worth checking out some deep half guard videos on youtube, or some of Marcelo Garcia using the X guard to stand up with a single just for further illumination.

I didn't have as much luck finding the videos I was looking for to illustrate these points so please pop them into the comments if you've got 'em.

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For those of us less knowledgeable (but keen to learn!) types, I’d have liked a brief dummies breakdown for some of the dryer terms I’ve never heard – elevator sweep, x-guard, etc. or at least some recommended links or videos?

Nonetheless, nice work ATF.

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by ihateemo on Apr 30, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

butterfly guard- open guard with two butterfly hooks (hooking instep under their thigh while still having knees out to control their leg)
elevator sweep – using on of those hooks to push your opponent over, hopefully sweeping them into their back
x-guard- i view it more of a family of sweeps than an actual position because people dont typically hold this position for very long before attacking. get under an opponent who is stacking with two legs controlling one of their legs and your arm hooking under their other. with control of both their legs you can attack their balance

if you want videos, look for marcelo garcia’s videos on youtube. he has a lot of good info on using x-guard and butterfly guard in no-gi grappling

by phantasma475 on Apr 30, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing I like about x-guard is that most people I’ve encountered simply stand up to escape the butterfly guard. Once they do this all you have to do is keep one of your insteps behind their knee, throw the other up into their hip, swing in to grab their other leg and then sweep them from their. Then you’re on top and every thing’s gravy.

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by exsanguinator on May 1, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

saulo rev 1 and 2

i know marcelo is the man at x guard.. but i thought saulo’s version taught was very easy to understand and follow. Also he speaks english ..not well but for me it helps instead of hearing translation shiz.

and try to purchase dvds or d/l them.. on a full dvd you get the presentation of the full sequence of moves and get a better understanding then a piece meal approach on youtube.

great post kid nate and abovethefire

by waldog on May 1, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Elevator sweep – known as such, because you make one leg go up and the other leg go down, counterbalancing like an elevator does.

X-guard – a term applied to a few different positions. They have in common one of the opponent’s leg is being held against your shoulder and your legs in various positions on the opponent’s other leg, and you’re ready to sweep.

A key point: during the Homer Simpson sweep, Reis puts his underhook very high upon Shad’s body; he really jams his shoulder up in the armpit. It’s done to both push him off-balance a little and to prevent Shad from punching him in the face. Very nicely done.

Ribbit.

by Ben Thapa on Apr 30, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

DO IT

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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 30, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please do it.

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by Rundownloser on May 1, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awwww yeeeeh.

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by AJB on May 1, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gonna check with my instructor first, but we’ll see.

Would you all want a focus on no gi or gi?

Focus on submissions, or run the gambit from passes, sweeps, reversals etc?

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by Patrick Tenney on May 1, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gi/no-gi: Either/or; both would be interesting. I prefer the gi but I’m only training without these days (due to a lack of gi training in my area).

And run the gambit. Most submissions aren’t that hard to do; it’s setting them up that’s the trick. I think sweeps are by far the hardest part of the game to master, but also the most necessary. They’re game changers: going from bottom position to top position in an instant means going from being 60-90% in danger of losing to being 60-90% ahead (that doesn’t make sense in print, but it does in my head).

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by AJB on May 1, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

any topic.

(but personally I would rather see no-gi, since it could be seen/used in MMA)

PS
I hope you do it. :)

by Anton Tabuena on May 2, 2010 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

As always

the judo chops on here are informative and fun.

thanks, guys.

by bobthewriter on Apr 30, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

+1 for the Homer Simpson sweep

Although the gif doesn’t show the finish – was he able to? You don’t see those in MMA every day.

by beeran on Apr 30, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

+10

For any move that invokes Homer or Curly

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by Jesse Holland on Apr 30, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

love the work you guys, awesome first contribution by ATF

Gotta respect any guy thats a JJ expert and a Lil’ Wayne fan

Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down

by Austin Martin on Apr 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, ATF could you add your take on Wilson’s offensive wrestling in that fight? It seemed like he was able to take Shad down at will, surprising considering his background. Was he using bjj style takedowns or was he just strong enough to dominate Shad in a pure wrestling context? thanks.

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by Austin Martin on Apr 30, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not going to lie… I hit 3 takedowns with any sort of regularity, and 2 of them involve using the gi, so I’m no wrestling expert.

People don’t realize but jiu jitsu really doesn’t have a take down system, all the take downs in jiu jitsu are really just brought over from judo/wrestling, except for a few inventive ones. From what I saw in the fight Wilson is just using his great wrestling cross training to get the takedowns, Shad just couldn’t deal with his power/speed/ability to run through the shots. Wilson is seriously a brick shithouse, I’m not surprised he could explode those takedowns on a collegiate wrestler.

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by Patrick Tenney on Apr 30, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are a series of take downs in the Gracie basics.

those are mostly for the street. Then the rest is wrestling and judo I agree.

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by Rayce. on Apr 30, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

the rest is...... err the rest are

"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.

by Rayce. on Apr 30, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet post. My half guard sucks, so it’s nice to see someone rock it instead of getting smashed or Lesnar’d in it.

Sure glad Lesnar got his shit straightened out.

by judonerd on Apr 30, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

the trick is to not get flattened out.

Ask Frank Mir what happens when Brock flattens you out in halfguard. ……. It involves a lecture about strawberries I assure you. Lol

"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.

by Rayce. on Apr 30, 2010 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, and the best triangle escape is to not get stuck in one. Easier said than done.

Sure glad Lesnar got his shit straightened out.

by judonerd on Apr 30, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i agree

I think the reason we don’t see it much in mma (Maia uses it) is because; most of the people who are a good enough to use half effectively are good enough to keep full guard.

"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.

by Rayce. on Apr 30, 2010 6:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think it's actually

because the really effective half guard stuff is more advanced than the basic guard work — the only people I’ve seen use half guard really well in MMA are Big Nog, Maia, Reis, and a couple I can’t remember off hand — but they’re much better JJ players than most.
So it’s not guys with weak guards who adopt 1/2 guard techniques, it’s guys with the best guards who add 1/2 stuff to their arsenal.

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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 30, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

you totally missed what i was saying or i didn't explain myself well or both

half guard is not a desirable position generally speaking/ Most people would prefer full guard over half.. In full guard you have much more control Unless you pull halfguard you probably dont wanna be there. My point was that those guys you just mentioned (nog ,Maia ) dont get their guard half passed much so they don’t have to work from half much.
so we dont see it much. See what i am saying? People that end up in half guard all the time probably dont have the best guard.. Hence whyy they dont sweep from half guard.
I might be explaining myself poorly but you are right sweeps from half can be harder/more advanced because you have less control over your opponent

"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.

by Rayce. on Apr 30, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny little fact

Relson Gracie calls butterfly guard “Butter Guard” because of how easy he passes it. lol

"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.

by Rayce. on Apr 30, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you’ll see more half guard in MMA, not much more (because of the propensity to be punched in the face/flattened), but you’ll see more because half guard is a booming trend in BJJ; people are executing far more sweeps in comps from half guard now than in years past because people started really concentrating on it as more than just a transitive position. Expect big things from half guard in the future.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

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by Patrick Tenney on Apr 30, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. I love what Jeff Glover is doing with his half guard.

I think Bjj/ mma in general will improve. You have more american kids training from a younger age. The first set of Americans started training when they were older (teens and twenties). My daughter for instance has been training since she was 5. If that trend keeps up there will be a larger pool to draw from for mma talent.

"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.

by Rayce. on Apr 30, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m no grappling expert, I’ve only trained for about a year and half, but I’ve always looked at the half guard as a transitional position because I don’t like getting punched in the face, the more time you spend there the more likely you are to get flattened out, and most sweeps from that position benefit greatly from the element of surprise.

I’ve been able to get more than a few taps from the top of half guard as a result of this viewpoint because most people simply spend too much time down there and there isn’t a lot of defense from that position.

Of course, I am not discounting the fact that I do not know enough about the position to use it effectively from a more aggressive stand point.

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by exsanguinator on May 1, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aggression is key in half guard. You can’t hang out there because the defensive positioning is inherently horrible. But as a dynamic guard, it’s fantastic. The trick is to stay on your side and constantly – CONSTANTLY – work to unbalance your opponent; popping your hips forward, trying to pull your opponent over your head, stuff that will never work but that they must respond to. Once you get them reacting to you rather than the other way around, you can start to work through your real sweep options. Like ATF shows in the gifs, most of the moves involve multiple possible outcomes; how your opponent reacts just dictates which move you are going to go for, which you, obviously, are aware of ahead of time.

I don’t like working too much half guard from the bottom because I find the constant moving exhausting (my cardio is shite), but I have to admit that it’s effective. The “reach through – ankle grab” is one of my favourites.

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by AJB on May 1, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a side control escape called a “Barrel roll” (yeah I totally say it like Star Fox 64 style) that involves a cool little foot hook too that’s very similar.

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by Patrick Tenney on May 1, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do not know that one; the only thing I can do from sidecontrol is re-establish guard, or one or two sweeps (gi only) that involve dragging your opponent over by a lapel grip while bridging.

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by AJB on May 1, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, pay attention to where Reis has his arms and hands. The little things in this technique allow you to pull it off or at least make some space (in order to attempt something else, regain guard or get away).

Ribbit.

by Ben Thapa on Apr 30, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson taught us some deep half guard setups last night. When trying them during rolling I left my arm between the leg instead of across his back and rolled myself right into an armbar. Yes, the placement of your arms is very important and Wilson is an absolute ninja.

by Dastardly on Apr 30, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here

My half guard is fucking terrible. I basically just lock it down and hold on for dear life until I can shrimp out and get guard back. Or they get to side. That’s what I get for not going to the guard- systems class at all.

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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 30, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know this already for sure but the first thing you have to do in the half is get that underhook so you can get to your side and not have the opponent underhook and push you flat. It’s easier said than done, but you might really like deep half guard, it’s a great way to really unbalance your opponent and put them in danger.

I cannot recommend Jeff Glover’s Deep Half Guard DVD set enough, A) Great techniques B) Glover is f’n hilarious on it C) it has a bad ass stability ball training section at the end.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

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by Patrick Tenney on Apr 30, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

WOW. I like the cut of your jib sir!

I was just replying to you talkin about glover., Then i scroll down and you are talking about his videos. NICE! that’s a red

"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.

by Rayce. on Apr 30, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

My own experience: If you can’t get the underhook right away, I’ve had some luck opening it up by shoving my opponent’s hips then faking going for a kimura.

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by AJB on May 1, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they shoot a sloppy/deep underhook you can also do a spin under d’arce if they have poor pressure.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

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by Patrick Tenney on May 1, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen this but never tried it; I’m usually too focused on preventing them from getting the under while I try to get my own. I still haven’t mastered the “chess match” aspect of BJJ; I am way too in the moment.

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by AJB on May 1, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I’m about to actually go train so I don’t have time to really respond with any sort of quality but I’ll get to any questions/comments asap… (also it’s my birthday so I might not get to them till I wake up in a daze tomorrow afternoon).

Sorry about not writing more detail or with correct grammar/punctuation haha I didn’t know I was going to be directly quoted, thought I was just going to add info!

I did find it funny though that Grapple Arts also brought up the whole punching in the face thing for deep half lol.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

by Patrick Tenney on Apr 30, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

happy birthday, man.

by pop_gun_war on Apr 30, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy birthday...

live it up.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 30, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Always appreciate your input.

by pud333 on Apr 30, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

happy birthday

sorry for springing this on you at a bad time!
thanks again

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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 30, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday man

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by Damon O. on Apr 30, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do love me some D’Arce chokes haha =).

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

by Patrick Tenney on Apr 30, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

happy bday buddy

"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.

by Rayce. on Apr 30, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy birthday dude

Have a great night with the punks in dc.

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 30, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy birthday. Love grappling conversations which makes you one of my favourite BE members!

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by AJB on May 1, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice

I have found more sucess with deep half guard with the gi then without. Its alot easier to manipulate someones body weight when you can get different grips(collor, sleave and pant legs)

by fightersvizion on Apr 30, 2010 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

For sure, lapels/pants make deep half guard soooooooooooooo much more dangerous, the amount of sweeps from deep half in the gi is ridiculous.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

by Patrick Tenney on Apr 30, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Judo Chop

comes through again. I wish I had seen this fight. I have been really anxious to see more high level and innovative BJJ start getting used in MMA.

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by Chris Barton on Apr 30, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Another thing

Is that somebody also told me he used what’s being called the ‘Wilson Reis Pass’ – also known as the Tozi, the Sao Paulo or ChimPass – a couple of times. I’ll see if I can find it and if so, write it up.

by CaptainArmbar on Apr 30, 2010 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

that would be awesome

please do

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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 30, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a sick pass, it requires a lot of pressure/force with your hips, you essentially eliminate the legs and walk around via hip pressure. It’s really hard to explain, it’s better served by just checking on youtube for a “Tozi Pass”.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

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by Patrick Tenney on Apr 30, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fact I was teaching a guy who has trouble breaking/passing the guard tonight and I went over the Tozi pass and the kick back half guard break and pass. Weird coincidence.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

by Patrick Tenney on Apr 30, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think the tozi pass would work well in no-gi too? From the vid I found on youtube it doesn’t seem to rely on gi grips.

I have a hard time passing the guard and a lot of that is because my opponent tends to get wrist control on me or break my posture.

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by snet tim on May 1, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tozi pass works no gi fine.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

by Patrick Tenney on May 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of my training partners half guard sweep is damn near unstoppable. It probably took six months before I got good at countering it. He does exactly as the article says. Gets his hips under you, gets you off balance then goes with the sweep.

by attgnp on Apr 30, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Training bjj is so fun because of exactly that arms race between good moves and the proper counter.

Ribbit.

by Ben Thapa on Apr 30, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

As always

Kid Nate is at his best in the judo chops

everything else, meh

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by Brian Hemminger on Apr 30, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

you'll get no argument from me there

at least as far as the Judo Chops being my best stuff (well that and the MMA history but I’m so far behind on that they don’t really count).
But the other posts are the ones that bring in the readers.

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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 30, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, that’s the Arianny twit-pics.

Ribbit.

by Ben Thapa on Apr 30, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I originally came to this site because a Judo chop article. It lead to an entire afternoon at work where it did nothing but read the technique archives. Been at BE since.

Sure glad Lesnar got his shit straightened out.

by judonerd on May 1, 2010 2:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks Kid Nate!

I remember talking about this with you on the live blog. Glad to see you finally followed up on the post.

by zeroword on Apr 30, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Pardon me, but didn’t the recent Thomas/Galvao Strikeforce fight (the one where Luke got robbed) feature a lot of half-guard sweeps?

Or were they Thomas sweeping when Galvao had side control?

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 1, 2010 1:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd have to watch that one again

all I remember is how unimpressed i was with Galvao

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by Nate Wilcox on May 1, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I might be wrong, but some of the sweeps that Mauricio Rua did already in some his really early matches seem to utilize very similar techniques. Anyone with greater BJJ understanding who wants to comment on this?

by Sventsh on May 1, 2010 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll have to go back and watch

but I wouldn’t be surprised at all. Shogun’s JJ is pretty damn good.

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by Nate Wilcox on May 1, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gif maker?

Nate: I have ‘acquired’ the Reis fight and he does indeed do that pass three or four times. Got my URLs, got my words. Somebody link me up a quick guide to making gifs out of VLC files and I’ll make my own Judo Chop.

by CaptainArmbar on May 1, 2010 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Sweet, Tozi pass is something one just can’t get enough info/details on.

Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

by Patrick Tenney on May 1, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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