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What Does the Future Hold for Urijah Faber?

Urijah Faber grimaces in pain following a dominating loss to Jose Aldo at WEC 48. Will Urijah Faber go forward with another run at Aldo, or drop to 135 pounds? Photo by Esther Lin, Fanhouse

One of the possibly premature, yet interesting discussions stemming from Jose Aldo's dominating victory over former champion Urijah Faber on Saturday night is the future for Faber. While some fans are in the majority opinion that Jose Aldo may very well sit at the top of the heap for a very long time, others still believe Faber should be given his time to work at developing a gameplan or improving his skills enough to give Aldo a run for his money in a rematch down the road.

The idea that's developed in the camp of majority opinion is that Faber could drop down to bantamweight and challenge any number of top 135 pounders in a run for a title shot against current champion Dominick Cruz. After all, Faber handed Cruz his only professional loss back at WEC 26 in an one-sided affair that saw Cruz tap from a guillotine choke at 1:38 of the first round.

The question remains whether or not this is a premature thought from fans or would it be beneficial for Faber to take the step down to avoid a situation like that of the UFC's Rich Franklin in that the champion is just too skilled and dominant to be overcome at this stage in his career.

The case could be made that Faber deserves his chance to rematch Jose Aldo with a win over an up-and-coming challenger. After all, he's only lost to Mike Brown, Jose Aldo, and the UFC's Tyson Griffin in seven years of professional competition. Many would argue that Faber has the chops to defeat Brown, but would they venture the same feelings toward Faber in a rematch with Aldo? Plenty of us have been quick to point out that Aldo will dominate for years to come, but those same fans also said B.J. Penn couldn't be toppled at lightweight.

If Aldo dispatches of what looks like a very game Manny Gamburyan in a possible title showdown in the future and Faber impresses in a contention match-up, will we see a rematch in the works? I think we will, but Faber's future will be all but decided if he happens to lose that battle. Like Rich Franklin, he will have lost twice to a champion who seems to be in control of a division that doesn't have a whole lot of immediate challengers.

A drop to bantamweight offers a little more life for Faber if he happens to lose a rematch to Aldo, but it also offers options if he decides to make a drop now. While a battle with Miguel Torres is a lot less hyped now that Faber's teammate Joseph Benavidez completely demolished him at WEC 47, it is a fight that may draw some interest. What about Brian Bowles, Scott Jorgensen, or Takeya Mizugaki?

There is also some positives to be brought to the bantamweight division's exposure with a drop by Urijah Faber. He still draws an immense amount of fans to the WEC and ARCO Arena when fights are promoted there, but he's also been the face of the promotion for quite some time. That may be changing slightly nowadays, but he will still garner interest from fans. That could be good for some of the fighters in the bantamweight division and for the WEC.

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The only slight hang-up with the move would be the possibility of Joseph Benavidez winning the title. As with most tight-knit fight camps in mixed martial arts, Faber would likely not vie for the title if a teammate held it. That somewhat limits the prospect of Faber at a new weight class, but it doesn't entirely eliminate the match-ups in the division that the WEC could promote.

And if Zuffa were to finally merge the bantamweight and featherweight divisions into the UFC, it'll make even more sense for Faber in giving him the paychecks he deserves along with potentially explosive battles against top notch competition at 135 pounds. Faber could take a page out of Franklin's book and fight at both weight classes as well? In any case, this could work out perfectly for him if Zuffa continues to work toward pay-per-views for the WEC or merges the promotions.

Personally, I think Faber deserves a rematch with Aldo down the road. While I think he'll run into another brick wall, it's still a solid drawing match-up if it's hyped correctly, and it'll solidify the idea of whether Faber should drop in weight or not. There wouldn't be any second thoughts about it.

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In your opinion, what is Faber's next move?
Move down to Bantamweight immediately
875 votes
Continue at Featherweight, drop if rematch loss to Aldo
643 votes
Stay at Featherweight regardless of outcome of Aldo rematch
271 votes
Other
99 votes

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He’s a natural BW anyway. He just hates dieting and weight cutting. The absolute best bet for him is to drop to 135 immediately, IMO. Even if they don’t want to give him a title fight right away, they can give him Torres first. There’s still a lot of interest in that fight. I know he thinks that’s Joe Benavidez’ division and he doesn’t want to rain on his parade, but it’s the best thing for him and the WEC right now.

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by Tim Burke on Apr 28, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it is as well, although I wonder if he’ll still want to fight Aldo one last time. He isn’t very long at featherweight, so the drop would help him with his length as well.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 28, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know he’s popular and he sell tickets and makes money for the WEC, but this isn’t like the Brown situation. The fight was an absolute blowout. Has anyone ever received an immediate rematch in a non-controversial fight? It’s not like they can even do Brown/Urijah 3, since he’s 0-2 against him. Giving him Manny makes no sense, since Manny has earned a title shot. And he just beat Assuncao. Who else is left for him to fight at FW?

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by Tim Burke on Apr 28, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say immediate rematch. I’d say Faber has to earn it. There really isn’t anyone left for him to earn it against, I suppose, so bantamweight makes the most sense.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 28, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was a little longwinded there

I was basically trying to say he doesn’t deserve Aldo again anytime soon, and there’s nothing else for him either.

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by Tim Burke on Apr 28, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a natural BW anyway…. I know he thinks that’s Joe Benavidez’ division and he doesn’t want to rain on his parade,

Isn’t Joe a natural flyweight (or whatever the proposed 125 lb weight class will be named)?

To me this is yet another reason to hurry up and add the 125 lb weight class. Benavidez drops down to 125 to sit on top of that mountain (as I assume he’d be the best at that weight given that he’s already top 3-5 at 135) while Urijah is allowed to test his mettle at 135. Should Faber be successful at running through his contemporaries at 135 then Zuffa (to ignore where that weight class will actually end up) gets to maintain their lighter-weight poster boy.

by Estrada on Apr 28, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this, but there just aren’t enough North American prospects at 125 right now for them to start up a full-fledged division. It’ll take a little while longer for them to develop, as it did for 135.

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by Tim Burke on Apr 28, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s true, but my thinking is that creating one helps increase the prospect pipeline (e.g. collegiate wrestlers) and expedite the division expansion. It’s probably not cost effective, but that’s just the starry-eyed fanboy in me that would like to see 125 sooner rather than later.

by Estrada on Apr 28, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say drop with another loss to Aldo but..

If Benavidez wins the title before that what about moving up? Yes I know that Urijah would be small for LW but he has talked about it before and we could possibly see a Tyson Griffin rematch if the LW division is folded into the UFC.

by The Legend on Apr 28, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Faber gets owned at lightweight in my opinion. His frame is already too small in my mind.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 28, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably

But people have been saying that about our current UFC lightweight champ as well.

At least he’d make more money in the UFC.

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by ihateemo on Apr 28, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec rec rec

I’ve been wanting this fight for YEARS.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 28, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really think this is the best option

I’d like to see it before either guy gets clowned again by a no-name and the fight loses even more relevancy than it has.

Get rid of the ramp!

by ihateemo on Apr 28, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No mention of moving UP?

by WestbergIDFC on Apr 28, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

?

And ppl think Edgar is undersized…

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by xFenixKnightx on Apr 28, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just throwing it out there

Faber seems plenty strong enough to hang with some of the LW guys.

by WestbergIDFC on Apr 28, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his strength is high enough, but I fear he gets handled by some of the lengthy ground guys.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 28, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I think that’s a huge stretch for him. His frame is just not big enough to compete at 155. He might be quick enough, but I think the lengthy guys dominate him.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 28, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cruz vs. Faber II

makes so much sense for the WEC. It is also the only way for Faber to headline a PPV again.

by William Wilson on Apr 28, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

And lose…again.

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by xFenixKnightx on Apr 28, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Faber beat Cruz.
Badly.

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by kenpoboy67 on Apr 28, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know he lost the first time I’m just saying he would lose again, headlining a PPV. Cruz is a completely diff fighter than he was back then.

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by xFenixKnightx on Apr 28, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say move down...

however, how many times will Aldo need to defend the title before he moves up? I think a superfight with Torres should be first on the list. Give Benevidez a crack at Cruz, and if Joe wins, let Cruz avenge his loss to Faber. If Cruz defends his title, give him Faber.

Maybe by then Aldo will have moved on to greener pastures and bigger paydays, leaving Faber there to help sort out 145 lbs. division.

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by donkeypunch on Apr 28, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Move down?

However, I’d say to make a fight between him at Tyson Griffin at a catchweight first. Can’t hurt to sell another fight but otherwise the best option is to move down, no fights left for him at FW. LW would be too competitive.

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by achengy on Apr 28, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I honestly don’t see the Griffin fight being competitive at this stage. Tyson is a pretty damn big lightweight now and Faber’s an undersized featherweight. It’d be an amazing fight, but 155 just isn’t the right fit for Faber at ALL.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 28, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I think Tyson would make it close. His style relies more on his striking rather then his wrestling. I’d only like to see the fight as a no-consequence sort of deal. Tyson’s in the middle and the same for Faber. It’s sort of why not fight that will likely never happen until it’s far too late.

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by achengy on Apr 28, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we're hustling him out of the division a bit fast

Assuming Mike Brown gets his personal issues resolved, Brown-Faber III would be a great co-main event for a WEC show even if they are both coming off losses. I like Faber’s chances to win that fight, which would put him right in line for a matchup with the Aldo-Gamburyan winner (whoever that may be).

If Aldo mollywollops him again, then he can look at dropping in weight.

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by Dave Strummer on Apr 28, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

This is essentially how I saw the prospect of Faber staying in the division until losing in a rematch. Brown vs. Faber, Aldo vs. Gamburyan takes place while the rest of the division unfolds in the months leading up to that type of event. If Faber wins, he then can rematch Aldo later giving the division some more time. If he loses in the rematch, then he can drop.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 28, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense

Given Faber’s injuries in the 2nd Brown fight. There’s still interest in the fight.

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by Tim Burke on Apr 28, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It also may give a little more time for a legitimate threat to Aldo at 145 to emerge. Besides, I think Brown-Faber III has the potential to be a fantastic fight, especially given how hungry they will both be.

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by Dave Strummer on Apr 28, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. It gives some time for someone to come forward. Maybe Grispi.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 28, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know the division isn't that deep but I really don't see the need for a rematch with "The Aldoraptor"

the last fight wasn’t even close other than a couple of push kicks Faber had nothing for Aldo. I would have Faber fight at least 3 more guys at featherweight before a rematch. Give him some time to work out the wholes that Aldo found in his game( which is more of a result of Aldo just being better as opposed to Faber being an incomplete fighter)

by doonerthesooner on Apr 28, 2010 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike "The Spoiler" Brown

I’ve been calling (ok, whining at whoever was within earshot) for Faber-Aldo since the Cub Swanson KO. Too bad it didn’t happen that way. Brown completely scratched the luster off the Aldo-Faber fight by KO’ing Uriah. Since that bout, Faber just hasn’t been the same.

Pre-KO’ed Faber would have been much more active, and unleashed some crazy, unpredictable attacks IMO. This current version played a cautious (albeit justifiable) game and lost. Personally, I just don’t see the old “let it all hang out” Faber ever coming back. I do hope I’m wrong, though.

by INGO B on Apr 28, 2010 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

On a slightly different topic

Did anyone else notice from the payouts from last saturdays card that Manny was the by far winner of the night?. He made $101K to Aldos $40K. Doesn’t sound right for some reason.

by SimplePsych on Apr 28, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

65k for KO of the night. That’s why.

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by Tim Burke on Apr 28, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's pretty consistently been one of the highest-paid guys in the WEC

He got to keep his UFC contract for his first few fights at 145. IIRC he’s been the guy with the highest base salary in each of his WEC appearances.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 28, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i could see the Zuffa promo hype machine now for a Faber - Aldo 2

" URIJAH FABER !! THE ONLY MAN TO TAKE JOSE ALDO TO A DECISION IN THE HISTORY OF FABER v ALDO FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

ORDER NOW! ONLY ON PPV"

by espino on Apr 28, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Move Up!

Edgar VS Faber for the UFC LW Title? Good matchup right? But….

by kinghaze on Apr 28, 2010 4:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

One more shot if Aldo's still around.

I think it’s more likely that Aldo bolts the division than Faber. Aldo, in my opinion, could be a force at 155, and I just don’t see anyone at 145 to give him much trouble, with the possible exception of Faber and that’s involving some fantastical scenario where he comes in with no fear, fights body to body with Aldo from the jump, and eventually grinds out a decision or a late submission. I would like to see a rematch with Aldo, but I do believe it is only because I am a fan of Faber’s and would like to see if he had something more, and something starkly different, to offer. But Aldo is just too gifted.

Still, there’s no one else. Not Brown, who again would be quickly stopped, and not Manny — sweet God not Manny. Give Faber two tough fights and if he emerges, and Aldo isn’t already off playing futbol with the torsos of lightweights, then I would applaud a rematch.

by Charlie Custer on Apr 28, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted for “Continue at FW, drop down after a rematch loss”, but I think Faber has more than paid his dues and is arguably the main reason for the WEC’s success, so I am fine with whatever he decides to do. There are interesting fights for him at BW, FW, and LW.

by HarmlessNinja on Apr 28, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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