Bloody Elbow comment section: A note for members

Seconded.

Agreed. Unfortunately some of the idiots will never even see this article because the headline doesn’t mention “the UFC’s demise”, Dana White doing something bully-ish, or a fighter’s personal issues…

Just got on the computer and saw this. Glad I came here before trying to dig though 600+ post of that. I do love this place but growth means growing pains.

Thanks for being the one to do it.

It’s too bad SB Nation doesn’t have an up/down vote system in place for comments.

It would be quite useful.

Love the breakdown between forum and community. great post. I like how the staff runs a tight ship here, so there is only room for quality debates, not just a big match of king of the castle.

But this is the second post you’ve written about this. It’ll be ok man. Just relax a little bit.

As much as I give Luke and Kid a hard time (they give me a harder time), but I still love them. This site is awesome.

Good post.

I agree with a lot of the stuff you said. I’ve been reading this site for years but only recently started bothering to read the comments, and then decided to post. But there’s something about the way you said that really irks me, it comes across as sanctimonius and makes me want to go on a rant about free speech and the slippery slope of censorship, and I really really hate slippery slope arguements. Now I’m confused. Fuck.

As usual great stuff. For someone who reads everythinbg here, but only posts occassionally (work blocked the sign in and they have caught up with all my proxies) I totally agree. The tito story was one of the few I totally ignored the comments.

I’ve been here a long time as well and have made my share of jokes but here’s where I am… I don’t care for the people that make jokes that cross the line and are too offensive but I also don’t like people jumping on their high horse on their way to the moral high ground each time it happens. I’m not saying this post is one of those times, but it’s close. If you don’t like a joke/pic/comment just keep on scrolling and let Luke, Brent, Nate, etc take care of it, otherwise it just clogs the comments section and turns everything into a mess.

Well said Matt

Some people need to joke around about pretty terrible things in order to cope with them. That said, there were some comments in the thread today that were pretty bad. I just don’t see a point in dictating when something is acceptable and when it’s not. If people are here ONLY to post nonsense then good riddance when they are gone, but that ain’t everyone you were upset with.

It takes all kinds, sometimes people deal with situations differently. Some people have different senses of humor. That doesn’t make you right and them wrong or vice versa.

I’m just not that offended by what most people say (except for regarding Herschel Walker—- Blackout 612, I’m looking at you) and I’m generally calloused and have a black, black heart.

Therefore, dark senses of humor don’t get me riled up. It’s the stupidity that get’s to me.

and start to know the style of most of the people responsible for fanposts and comments, you quickly learn which people share you’re opinion and outlook, which people will argue and counter you at any given opportunity, and which people are genuinely intelligent and have things to offer that I had not yet realized or considered. It is these people that make the site great, because we can learn from other perspectives. It

However, when you have 15 year olds coming on here bashing, name calling, being disrespectful, it really messes up the whole vibe in here. The environment gets negative and hostile, rather than constructive and rational.

Anyways, thanks for posting. I guess everyone could use a reminder from time to time. I gotta admit though, sometimes I see things that really piss me off. Im sure some people will know that I get really pissed off when someone goes on a nice long rant about something exciting and worthwhile in a logical, intelligent way, then some blowhole replys with grammarical and spelling errors as criticism rather than contributing to the discussion. That really irks me. You can tell 99% of the time what someone is saying anyways (octogon vs octagon) and this isnt grade school english class. Leave the grammarical criticisms out of the comments, for the love of GOD.

Nothing is worse then when the guy who is losing an argument starts to pick on spelling rather than countering. Thats when you know that you are officially talking to a Dildo. Thanks.

I started out at Cage potato and the comments section looked like something from Holy Taco. I actually found BE from a link on that site. Now I’m here almost everyday because of the quality discussions, Fanposts and writers.

I’m all for sick humor but sometimes it’s like… wtf. I actually laughed at a Fanpost on Mania a couple of months ago that was entirely about several years of spunk accumilation – which was the first article I read there. I rarely visit that site anymore because I don’t visit MMA sites for that. The shit that was said by some earlier today was garbage. So… nice write up Matt and stay classy BE.

rly…

but thats fine because on the whole there is a nice balance of the low brow as well. I would like to think that both can exist, and from that a good middle ground is established. As much as I hate some of the ignorant nonsense I also hate the holier than though attitudes as well. This is a blog about men and women who fight each other for money. I love MMA and it has wonderful entertainment value and Bloody Elbow far and away has a format that brings out the best in fan community. Honestly I don’t think so much attention needs to be focused on Tito’s personal life, and this kind of thing is happens all the time in other professional sports. Actually much worse happens. So having posts that feature TMZ “reporting” on a fighter’s personal life is just letting the gate open to an atmosphere everyone would rather avoid. I think the cream of the crop will rise naturally and the chaff will go by the wayside. It’s why we have all decided to make BE our MMA site of choice.

I ignore every single comment made by people I don’t know

That’s what I do when reading BE now also :(

I’ve been working on my Superman v Anderson Silva breakdown fanpost for 17 months. Thanks a lot dick

 Anyway, here’s the synopsis:

It’s ok, I already got a warning. I don’t need a fan post concerning BE’s social sensitivity.

No

Except when you say “don’t try and be funny if you aren’t”….. that is objective, and no matter how funny you think people’s jokes are, everyone should be allowed to joke in a respectful manner. All of us longtime members enjoy a laugh just as much as the anyone else, so long as it’s in good taste. Of course I am not condoning fighter bashing or name-calling, and I certainly do not think that domestic violence should be joked about at all, but just because you think someone isn’t funny is no reason for them to be banned from making jokes. In fact, I often look forward to the jokes made by members here, as the are usually much funnier here than, say MMAMania (UGH don’t get me started)

I’m glad that even the people who have thought BE wasn’t a shell of its former self for the last year and a half are starting to get tired of sifting through all the bullshit.
This won’t change anything, of course, but it’s nice to commiserate since the other people who shared my opinion simply left a long time ago.

I don’t post a lot, I just feel the need to blurt out once in a while and it’s usually not funny. But, I do think that in a decent society certain things are always off limits. Like, the C word, the N word, making fun of child abuse, making fun of domestic violence, racism, and a few others.

The bottome line is this, we all want to live in a nice neighborhood and we don’t want to see grafitti on our walls or trash in our streets. So keep your lawn mowed, your house clean, smile at your neighbors and support your local police.

You lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

26 recs and 1 flag for trolling. Good stuff.

You’re an Elitist!!!!!

Holy crap, am I ever glad that I was in Amsterdam for the last five days without internet access…

Love BE; think that everyone needs to simultaneously lighten up AND take more personal responsibility; liked this post.

All caught up!

But when I ran across rants on other SBN MMA blogs about the “Elitists” I was inclined to follow it. I like to think of myself as a mentor or an instructor of sorts, using my 15 or so years of expertise as a dedicated fan of the sport, its global recognition, and growth to teach and inform the new guys just finding their way to our counterculture, rather than bashing them for being as uninformed as we all were at one point regarding MMA. As an administrator in a relatively large MMA community I’ve always tried to be just when dealing with infractions of site rules and staff wishes, always citing the rules when handing out warnings, and only polishing the ban hammer when things get way out of line. My organization prides itself on maintaining a family-friendly, or work-friendly environment and will be quick to spot and remove comments or photos depicting overly vulgar or offensive content.

But for a site that follows a news blog format and uses the catchphrase “Pound-for-Pound the Best in Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) Commentary, News and Community” as its moniker, I find it disturbing that so many members and supporters of the site were banned by a moderator who had a personal agenda regarding posts that mocked a news story alleging that a known drug-addicted porn star was assaulted by her MMA fighter boyfriend. The anthem of this site clearly states “Commentary, News, and Community.” The infrastructure of news and commentary are based on the constitutional right of Freedom of Speech. But yet so many of your users were BANNED from this site without even the slightest hint of redirection, rehabilitation, or reprimanding for making comments about a scenario within a relationship that has been the laughing stock in this MMA community since it started.

So a long time member was banned for posting something along the lines of “Tito gets a W for once” when every other word posted here is “Fuck, Cocksucker, ShitBandit, and or Nuthugger.” Correct me if I’m wrong on this, but I in no place on Bloody Elbow see a link to rules or guidelines that prohibit making remarks or jokes about porn stars being (supposedly) assaulted. I see no guidelines prohibiting voicing opinions or views regarding any subject matter – no matter how vulgar or in bad taste it might be. Therefore I’m going to assume that the moderators of this site have the full liberty to use their discretion to ban members from posting on a PUBLIC WEBSITE with or without prejudice for anything they just happen to disagree with in a time that their panties are in a wad. If that is the case, then good luck to you. But I highly recommend that you at least put down some infrastructure that dictates what is acceptable and not before slinging around the ban hammer, because a handful of intelligent people do frequent this site, and you’ve made a mockery of yourselves because your Moderators are apparently in the 6th grade.

Good Night.