Randy Couture vs James Toney in the Works for UFC 118

Could if Randy doesn’t bob and weave. If Randy gets inside though, it’s over.

Randy has looked pretty slow and old lately. Giving him a near death coleman, and a crappy vera is all fun and games but I can see Toney knocking his head into orbit.

It certainly adds an element of danger for Randy. We will all breathe a sigh of relief when he gets into the clinch.

If that does happen cross your fingers Din Thomas can help you out with your boxing fans

I doubt LHW contention is the goal. The dude is 45. He just wants to fight and get paid. He has to know by now his contention days are over. When Dana talks about Couture gunning for contention, it’s just promoter jibber jabber.

I just can’t imagine a world where the supposed “master of gameplans” would be dumb enough to throw even one punch standing against a boxer of Toney’s caliber. It’s a cool matchup IMO and the first Couture fight other than Brock that I’ve looked forward to in years.

He has won/defended a title 10 times.

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I have an idea why this is green

They specially selected him because he was probably the only pro fighter that had a record and was substantially worse than a random scrub off the street.

Randy’s double-leg ain’t that fast anymore. Toney should have a chance to possibly land something on Randy’s way in

Dana isn’t one to set people up with fights so they can build them up unless they are young prospects. Even then they are set up with equally experienced fighters until they show a drastic difference in natural skill.

Toney is too old to just start at the bottom with other new fighters. Toney himself wants to fight one of the best, he’s not looking to start a new career he wants a big name fight and thinks he can win with his boxing skills and natural talent.

Toney has two (t)KO wins. One of which was in 2003. His hands aren’t that lethal anymore.

If by rinse you mean clean the blood off Toney’s nose after he gets TKOed then yes, rinse. There will be no need for a repeat if it hits the ground once.

Takedown, pass, pass, pass→ straight to mount => ANYTHING and EVERYTHING.
He won’t defend anything on the ground, he will punch and shoulder roll from his back.. A reverse gogplata W could do the joke.

They see former world champion and think Ray Mercer power. Toney’s got 1 KO in his last 10 professional boxing matches, against the always deadly – who? – Mathew Greer. Toney has been out of shape and horrible the last 7 years or so, and he was never famous for his power. In addition he boxed with a “rolling shoulder” style which might be the worst style ever designed for mma. He leans back away from his opponent and picks them apart when they step up to engage. What makes this horrible is that it leaves his legs forward to be kicked or doubled for a takedown.

This is a freakshow and there is no way around it.

One hitter quitter, refers to some not being able to take a punch. Believe you’re using it the other way around. Just thought I’d clear that up. Though, I did get your point.

I don’t get it either. People threw a fit over the Mercer/Sylvia matchup calling it a joke. And it was, but the funny thing is Mercer comes in with a better style than Toney.

Toney has a puncher’s chance. but that really isn’t a huge one…. That being said, I think most of these statements are coming from Randy’s diminishing chin (and skills?), than Toney’s actual ability.

Fewer people would give Toney a chance. If the Kimbo/Mercer fight was the more recent fight, while the Silvia/Mercer fight had happened longer ago, people wouldn’t buy into Toney’s chances.

I don’t think this has title implications for either one of them. You are more likely to see Couture cageside doing some fantastic commentary than taking a shot at the title.

Your post was too long for my short attention span, but your gif made a funny. (Wipes Drool of Chin)

Dos Caras Jr. with his complete lack of knowledge about any aspect of MMA matched up better with Cro Cop near his prime than a multiple time boxing world champion does with a guy with a questionable chin?

hmm…interesting.

This is the first fight ever that I will be actively rooting for some lay and pray.

Hopefully Handy will get him in the North-South position. God that would be hysterical.

it’s very easy for it to not benefit the UFC if Toney wins.

Mainly that I’m still pretty certain that what Toney wants is to win a fight in the UFC and take the bump his name receives to go back to boxing for the big paydays that he can no longer get. Like…he can NOT get big paydays right now in boxing. He desperately wanted to fight a Klitschko but they are basically ignoring him.

If Toney wins, and bolts for boxing then nothing good comes of it.

They’re definitely going to give Toney a second fight, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Kimbo or they resigned Buentello, someone with strong hands who doesnt like going to the ground.

There’s no way Randy loses this fight. He hasn’t really shown a weak chin, yes he’s slowing, but his grappling level is such that he could escape mount and a tight anaconda choke against the best hw bjj player in history. Randy is a black belt level grappler. he had to deal with distance fighting against vera and little problems, and vera’s kicks are some of the best in the game. PLUS, he won’t have to cut weight so his cardio will be off the charts.

Randy by submission, i’m guessing d’arce or rear naked in the first round. toney will give up his back or try to stuff with his head down, and then its couture’s world.

It might make him the defender of MMA and further curbstomp boxing. Plus Bob Arum has a fucking coronary.

who wouldn’t want that.