MMA Nation: Strikeforce Failure and the Overrating of Shinya Aoki James argues Saturday's fights...

MMA Nation: Strikeforce Failure and the Overrating of Shinya Aoki

James argues Saturday's fights were lackluster. We then discuss how wildly overrated Shinya Aoki actually is and who in the UFC would defeat him.

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I personally would like to see the UFC copromote a LW tournament

and send

1. BJ
2. Frankie
3. Kenny
4. Tyson
5. Gray
6. Tibau
7. Stevenson
8. Sotoropolis

I’d be safe to assume that you’d have all 8 UFC fighters in the next round.

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 19, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t think Gilbert could beat Tyson Griffin.

by HeroCasey on Apr 19, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions

I think it’d be ultra close.

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by Luke Thomas on Apr 19, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Agree with your view.

Aoki doesn’t beat Tyson Griffin, and honestly… this is a fight that needed to happen for fans to truly have evidence to back those claims.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 19, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

nice cans

by woooburn on Apr 19, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions

HEE HAW

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by Luke Thomas on Apr 19, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions

forgive me if i’ve missed the link somewhere, but is last night’s show available for download yet? interested to hear your take on the post-fight debacle, and what it means going forward (assuming you discussed it).

by woooburn on Apr 19, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll Tweet as soon as the podcasts are up

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by Luke Thomas on Apr 19, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions

im glad im not the only one who thinks aoki was the most over reated fighter in mma. i called this beat down months ago. i would take the top 15-10 ufc fighters over aoki. no ring no refs on his side no win.

by mmatokyo on Apr 19, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions

My favorite part of the show was the discussion of American wrestling.

I would have to say that the most important discipline in MMA is wrestling. Even more so than BJJ. That ability to control your opponent and dictate where the fight goes – keep it standing or take it to the ground – is probably the most important tool to have when in a fight. I’m constantly amazed at how even today wrestling seems to be under appreciated. If a good wrestler can learn some good submission defense, he’d be nearly unstoppable. On top of that, if you have someone like GSP, someone that can keep you guessing by taking you down at will, or clocking you with punches or kicks – forget about it.

I think the Melendez / Aoki fight proved just how dominant wrestling can be over a great submission artist. I mean, I know we’ve seen such fights before, but if that fight didn’t convince someone, nothing will. Aoki would have three straight losses in the UFC and then be dropped.

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by pud333 on Apr 19, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions