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Strikeforce on CBS Overnight Ratings Down 30 Percent - 2.63 Million Viewers

The stats show that ratings actually dropped during the last half hour of the show’s alloted two hour time-slot on CBS – though in fact the show actually ran on longer than that so we will have to wait until later on in the week to find out how the rest of the show fared.

To give you a rough idea of where those numbers compare to previous MMA events on the CBS network. Please note these are the final ratings for these events which tend to be higher than the overnights.

• Third EliteXC on CBS: Averaged 4.56 million
• Strikeforce: Fedor Vs Rogers On CBS: Averaged 4.042 million (3.79 million in the overnights)
• Strikeforce Nashville: Averaged 2.63 million (based on the overnights)

The figures do not bode well for Strikeforce’s long-term future on the CBS network

HT: fightofthenight.com, photo via sherdog.com, j.villain

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She lost her luster.

I don’t see how she can help now. She has trouble making weight, was TKOd and doesn’t do much in the way of staying in the MMA spotlight.

by Riney on Apr 18, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

She has trouble making weight,

She had trouble making 140, she never missed weight at 145.

 But I see what you’re saying. But this movie that she’s doing could bring in new fans, if she does continue to fight. It’s not like she’ll be fighting for a belt or anything, just throw her on CBS against a can or something.

by MMAGuard on Apr 18, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They needed her on this show, they aren’t gonna have another chance to put her on CBS.

by ufc4 on Apr 18, 2010 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gina will never "loose her luster" IN FACT!!

I really wanna touch her “luster”. If you know what I mean and I think you do.

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by Rayce. on Apr 18, 2010 3:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think Coker hasn’t even spoken with Carano in months. That loss may have really broken her mentally.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 18, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

She has been making som movie.

by Sventsh on Apr 18, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he can’t pick up a phone and say hi?

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he said yesterday he hadn’t spoken with her in a few months.

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It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
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by DamnSevern on Apr 18, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

She has been making som movie.

(I wanted to create a moebius comment loop)

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 18, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

"Justice is the whim of a judge, check his chest density
It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
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by DamnSevern on Apr 18, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moose Knuckle.

"For your information, I would like to ask a question."
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by fedorade on Apr 18, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

My gut tells me she never returns to fighting. I think Cyborg broke her will.

by tharv3 on Apr 18, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This...

is important but unsurprising news.

by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

The ratings are to be expected especially with no one that would be a “name” except for maybe Dan Henderson. I don’t think that many MMA fans really expected good ratings even before this card happened.

by chrisbboy82 on Apr 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

CBS surely expected good ratings…

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read people saying that Hendo is a bigger draw than Fedor due to his appearance on TUF and killing Mike Bisping, so this show would do better than the last card on CBS.

by Phildo on Apr 18, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I heard the opposite in that the show was expected to do not so well. For example, I listen to the SRN every week, and I am sure that I heard that Strikeforce officials weren’t expecting this to do that well (I can’t tell you what radio show though).

by chrisbboy82 on Apr 18, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, these were just people in the comments, not any really knowledgeable people. I really don’t think they expected it to be this bad, if they expected this bad they wouldn’t have done it.

by Phildo on Apr 18, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The quality of fights put on weren’t the kind to draw new viewers in.

by cyke on Apr 18, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree cyke

The fights were more hardcore mma fan friendly then new fan friendly. This was a good card overall, but, you are right about not being able to draw new fans.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Apr 18, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even though it was a 20 inning Cards and Mets game on fox not AMW or Cops!!!!

by Yankeesfan22 on Apr 18, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m guessing this did make a difference because I kept switching back and forth to check out this game. I think they said the total game time was 6 hours and 53 minutes for that 20 innings.

I wonder what the ratings for the NBA playoff game going on at the same time was?

Just BE.

by mattman73 on Apr 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

You had NBA playoffs, but no Lebron or Kobe, so it wasnt the two big stars, a long long long Mets game and a no hitter being pitched.

by KRIS27 on Apr 18, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

CBS pushed and promoted this card like no other… Shitfarce had at a minimum 6 of their 10 best fighters on display (3 champs plus 3 contenders).

These numbers are atrocious…

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

So, how much longer till the UFC can start negotiating with Shield?

by SidHartman on Apr 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a week or 2 “officially” but dialogue has been going on for a while now.

Jakes destiny is in the UFC. He knows it, Zuffa knows it. Nobody expected him to beat Dan though.

He’s now the most credible opponent for GSP at 170.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you “guarintee” that Shields gets GSP?

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by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

no… I cant even guarantee he will sign with Zuffa. It’s game over for Shitfarce though.

They are now at a clear fork in the road. They can way down like Affliction or go back to being a local promotion.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do they get back to their roots?

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by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

They release Fedor, dont resign Jake. Use the showtime deal to cover the stupid contract they gave hendo and they will be back to being strikeforce and not shitfarce.

If they get stupid now they will go down like affliction and cease to exist entirely with too many liabilities to get out of.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Recd for

FINANCIAL RAPE clause

by Riney on Apr 18, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

M1 wants out… they got a shit load of money waiting for them if they’re smart enough to take it.

Every time they come to the press and say they are “almost done” with finalizing a deal with shitfarce… all they are doing is trying to renegotiate Zuffa’s last offer.

M1 got the best offer Zuffa’s gonna make. Let’s see what happens.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking that Fedor will go flying off to DREAM to fight Barnett so we can finally sleep at night knowing who the TRUE king of the heavyweight division is.

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by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barnett isn't BROCKLESNARRRR!!!!

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck Lesnar

No Barnett is about 100 times as good as lesnar

by Givve on Apr 18, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he was once upon a time

He looked absolutely terrible in his last fight against Mighty Mo.

by Trysdor on Apr 18, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

With aoki losing dream’s aspirations are essentially dead. This litle nugget has been missed with all the hoopla.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just another peanut in a big pile of shit.

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by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont remember eating this

Consider yourself warned, im offensive and creative like handicap porn

by II SMASH II on Apr 18, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t NOT rec “financial rape”.

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by Blackout612 on Apr 18, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

welcome back sir

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gracias

Never really left, just been hella busy with werk. I’ll be phasing in and out like a curmudgeonly apparition.

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by Blackout612 on Apr 18, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Curse of Fedor about to claim its next victim?

by PM23 on Apr 18, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they go under Strike Force only has it self to blame not Fedor.

by Shocbomb on Apr 18, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fedor and M-1 Global would share some of the blame.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Apr 18, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually no.

We know he doenst have a champ clause cause of the deal he has with EXC, that SF picked up.

But they said that SF has a one fight option they can pick up, meaning they can keep Jake around for one more fight, which probably would be vs Jacare.

Now I think they also get a period of exclusive negotiation with Jake. So they probably will exercise that one fight option, and then try and get him to resign. If he wsa smart he says fuck no, I’ll take the fight, and then I’m testing the open market.

Why would you sign a new deal without seeing what the UFC will offer. When you said you wanted GSP, wanted in the UFC and wanted to fight at WW. Plus at the very least, you know that Dana already said he would help drive the price up, so even if you want to stay with SF, which after he even said they dissed him in this fight with Hendo, thinking he would lose, but maybe you think easier fights, money etc, I’ll stay, atleast testing the UFC, they would drive the price up.

So you either get the UFC driving the price up, if SF offers more, you sign and get that money, if SF says nope, we aint paying that, then you take the big UFC offer. Either way you cant be dumb enough to resign without knowing what the UFC is willing to pay.

Now he has his mind made up about coming to the UFC, then you def wait and come, but even if he wants to stay in SF, you atleast wait and let the UFC drive the price up.

So I dont expect him to be dumb enough to sign shit.

the problem for him is this extra fight, he is coming off a dominating win over Hendo on CBS, at MW, and he is a real WW. He is the EXC WW and SF MW champ, just beat a legend, he is as big as he can get, if he gets another fight and say loses to Jacare, then what?

So for him, he doesnt want that extra fight, now is the time to cash in, another fight, you figure it would be on showtime, not CBS, and if he lost, its all gone, the UFC offer drops big time, and he wouldnt be the SF champ and SF offer would drop.

So he really wants to be a free agent right now, but SF is gonna exercise that option.

But yeah, after what he did to Hendo at MW, i have to think, even if he has no power, him vs GSP at WW would be interesting.

And you give him a shot at GSP right away imo.

by KRIS27 on Apr 18, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

There isn’t another fight left as Strikeforce needed to have it in motion allready. That was from Coker. Team Gracie put the final nail in the coffin of a bidding war between Strikeforce and the UFC last night. With out CBS Strikeforce can’t make as good of an offer as they could with them. You can count on Dana knowing that as well. Dana will want to get him but he won’t pay any more than he has to for him.

From what Shields has been saying for the last while I think he is expecting GSP kind of money and I don’t see it happening. I expect Shields to sit on the shelf for 4 – 6 months hoping the UFC will move. Sort of like the Hendo deal. In the end he will end up in the UFC but not right away. Thats just my guess though.

by j.villain on Apr 18, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the best and worst case scenario for Jake Shields

He beat Hendo on CBS and held on to the MW championship belt, so never has his value as a fighter been higher.

But if Strikeforce can’t even afford to compete for him without CBS backing, then he’s lost out on all the leverage he gained.

Even when Jake wins he loses.

by John Nash on Apr 18, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just read your first paragraph and its completely wrong… its not shitfarces option for one more fight… ITS JAKES.

No matter what he’s declining that option. He’s a free agent.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

So are you acknowledging there has been some sort of tampering by the UFC?

BOOSH

by Farthammer on Apr 18, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanna see Shields in the UFC

  Shields has many great match ups in UFC. I couldnt believe how good he looked against Hendo.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Apr 18, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shields + elbows is much more fun to watch than the watered down version we have seen in Strikeforce. Much of his ‘boring’ performances can be attributed to the fact that Strikeforce has outlawed his best ground & pound attack.

by Steve4192 on Apr 18, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steve I agree with you.

That is what I was thinking about while watching. I wondered if he would have been able to finish Hendo. If elbows were in play, Hendo would have taken the worst beating of his life last night. Jake was mounting him at will, Dan would have suffered much more damage.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Apr 18, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was hoping you'd show up.

So CBS is gone. Showtime may be gone. What happens when these companies own most of the equity in a MMA organization like Strikeforce?

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

CBS decided internally last night that shitfarce is canned.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So not on the network or not in business?

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shitfarce will be in business if they dont sign Fedor or Shields or the next guy who becomes a free agent :)

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

In business as in they will go back to being a local promotion.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just we're clear

CBS/Viacom pulled the plug or CBS the network. Can they still fall back on Showtime?

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah they still have the showtime deal.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I originally thought "Holy shit M1 gained some leverage against Coker " after last nights bowel movement of a show but you reminded me Dana wins. Vadim will be happy with whatever he can get from the UFC.

by Bob Boblaw on Apr 18, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

That’s a good one Bob Boblaw.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Apr 18, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happens when these companies own most of the equity in a MMA organization like Strikeforce?

CBS owned a large chunk of EliteXC, but to the best of my knowledge, they have no equity stake in Strikeforce.

Regardless of whether Strikeforce is done on CBS, they will still be in business. However, Strikeforce has signed some very big contracts and was depending on their CBS income to help meet those obligations.

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It was my understanding that CBS/Showtime was the majority shareholders at this point.

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to the best of my knowledge.

They owned a huge chunk of EliteXC as ProElite was basically trading equity in the company to help pay their debts. But there is no such arrangement with Strikeforce AFAIK.

They hold HUGE influence over Strikeforce, but they don’t actually own any of the company.

by Steve4192 on Apr 18, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks...I guess I assumed with the massive amount of influence

They also had control.

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

CBS and Showtime don’t own any of Strikeforce. Strikeforce is co-owned by West Coast Productions which is Coker’s company and Silicon Valley Sports and Entertainment which owns the San Jose Sharks and the arena they play in.

One of the reasons that Strikeforce isn’t going away is that it can be used to fill unused days in the arena. That might mean fewer national shows but I doubt it would be a total retrenchment.

by j.villain on Apr 18, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure Silicon Valley Sports and Entertainment is the majority owner of Strikeforce still.

by who me on Apr 18, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was definitely a very bad show for Strikeforce, but to say CBS “pushed and promoted this card like no other” is very LOL.

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by Mike Fagan on Apr 18, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

which other fight did CBS promote like this one?

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

CBS doing more promotion for this fight does not equate to CBS doing a good job promoting this fight.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 18, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didnt say they did a good job… I said they promoted it like no other. When you promote something more than you have before and you get these shit numbers – it’s atrocious.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to say the same exact thing.

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It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
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by DamnSevern on Apr 18, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he is correct that this was the most heavily promoted MMA card in the history of MMA on CBS.

by Steve4192 on Apr 18, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never disagreed with that.

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by Mike Fagan on Apr 18, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

the internetz

is serious business :p

Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension

by Orcus on Apr 18, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i really doubt mmalogic isn’t seeing enough of the world. dude is in hong kong, nyc, australia, japan- any given week. I’d actually prefer he stayed here to argue. Bloody Elbow comment MVP imo.

by Gerrymanderer on Apr 18, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure he is!

David Price is better than your top young pitcher.

by P Brady on Apr 18, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot to mention...

what do his balls taste like?

BOOSH

by Farthammer on Apr 18, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are you so upset over someone misreading a phrase you used? I mean we’re talking about sports on the internet, that should be good times and laughter all around.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 18, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it was the first time… I have no problem… if he has a learning disability I have no problem. But this is like the 10th fucking time I need to spell shit out to this guy when it’s clear as day what Im saying.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's actually pretty ambiguous.

David Price is better than your top young pitcher.

by P Brady on Apr 18, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really…they advertised the hell out of it and stacked the card with 6 of their best fighters. These numbers are awful when you consider these facts.

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hey, way to not at all get the point:

Promoted like no other compared to what? The average UFC card? Previous CBS Cards?

David Price is better than your top young pitcher.

by P Brady on Apr 18, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I've just figured out how to read mmalogic

But it was pretty straight forward in my opinion.

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, well, let’s change the context and you tell me what I mean.

“Kobe Bryant has had a season like no other.”

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by Mike Fagan on Apr 18, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kobe Bryant has had a season better than the rest of his career.

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I meant that Kobe Bryant has had a season like no other NBA player before him. You’re obviously an idiot and need to take a class in reading comprehension.

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Hah. Rec’d.

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by Mike Fagan on Apr 18, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

… but Lebron is still better.

by MMAWrestling on Apr 18, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t that ambiguous or that hard to understand what he was saying here.

by who me on Apr 18, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well
Hey, way to not at all get the point:
Promoted like no other compared to what? The average UFC card? Previous CBS Cards?

David Price is better than your top young pitcher.
by P Brady on Apr 18, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

David Price is better than your top young pitcher.

by P Brady on Apr 18, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

CBS promoted this like they promoted no other CBS card, it’s not rocket science to make the jump between CBS fight promotion and CBS fight promotion. I mean seriously what else would he be talking about?

by who me on Apr 18, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

???? Honestly have you never read a post by logic? It was obvious he was comparing CBS now to CBS past not to what the UFC has done. It was obvious to me what he was talking about, why would he be comparing them to the UFC without mentioning the UFC? Even if you were a bit confused it wasn’t that confusing of a context and definitely not worth anyone getting worked over about.

by who me on Apr 18, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

anyone who had an opinion besides one that is the same as mmalogic or who me is a fucking moron. Totally obvious.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on Apr 18, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Already had to wade through one ass on this today, stop being a dick and get over it. I never said anyone was anything I just said it wasn’t that hard to understand what point he was making. Hell I don’t even really agree with the point logic was making myself.

by who me on Apr 18, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was a bit confused by it too

That’s not a repudiation of you as a person. If someone asks you for clarification, that means they’re interested in the point you’re making at least a little bit.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 18, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is Fagan is a dick and Im a bigger dick… you just got in the middle of it.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Matthew Roth on Apr 18, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

u mad

David Price is better than your top young pitcher.

by P Brady on Apr 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that

is funny. I actually chuckled. recd

by Riney on Apr 18, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think they promoted Elite XC cards with Kimbo alot more then this one. In NYC I did not see see any adds on bill boards or on subway cards like I did for the Kimbo fights on CBS.

by Shocbomb on Apr 18, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I bet UFC 110 replay did better numbers…

by Fokman on Apr 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah sf on CBS shouldn’t be around much longer… all fine w/ me I dislike the Mickey mouse way they handle it. it it really that hard to put on a show live coast to coast?

by nogroundgame on Apr 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

She looks like her mum in that pic...

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by Koob on Apr 18, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

giggity-giggity....

The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.

by Koob on Apr 18, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Apr 18, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

they don't make em like that any more. lol.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Apr 18, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd say they are born that way

and then they starve themselves to look like lindsay lohan.

by K Krush on Apr 18, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That pic made my nose tickle and my gums itch.

by Bob Boblaw on Apr 18, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

oxycontin and cocaine arent very good foods for maintaining a phat ass and a d cup.

Its sad :

"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.

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How did I not realize Jayne Mansfield was her mother?

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by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was just one event

I hope this doesn’t spell the end for them as I like the product that they put out.

by cyke on Apr 18, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

How does this effect M-1...

I’m sure the “fine” folks at M-1 are playing close attention to what’s going on here. Strikeforce did terrible numbers and who knows where the CBS deal is going. Plainly put, Strikeforce is a less appealing option to them than it was before their Saturday night card.

Could be a huge month of losses for SF if this event factors into the resigning.

by NateDouble on Apr 18, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

M1

should feel partially responsible for cancelling the Fedor fight.

Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension

by Orcus on Apr 18, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

M1 probably feels like they really have leverage with Strikeforce after seeing how they can’t get ratings without Fedor.

by who me on Apr 18, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

problem is

will it still be on CBS? if not, than they made a huge mistake, but if they are, then they’ll might have some levarage.

Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension

by Orcus on Apr 18, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they think this allows them to negotiate with CBS directly for all we know. I really doubt they feel responsible for the ratings here though, they look after themselves first and foremost and this makes it clear that Fedor got the ratings not Strikeforce which makes Fedor more valuable.

by who me on Apr 18, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh I'm sure they don't feel responsible

but they should (partially). Fedor would have helped the raitings IMO, and if they wanted to showcase Fedor to the mainstream, they may have let their last chance go by (although one could argue that they care more about the M1 name than Fedor).

Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension

by Orcus on Apr 18, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There will always be chances for Fedor to get big fights, regardless of what anyone thinks about M1 he is still Fedor. Heck it’s not like the UFC isn’t going to jump to sign him and headline him in events.

by who me on Apr 18, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure

if they figure out how to deal with M1.

Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension

by Orcus on Apr 18, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ball is in M1’s court not Zuffa’s. M1 still has options on the table and they know it, just as they know that no matter what they can fall back and sign the UFC deal that has been offered. It’s not like Strikeforce was their only option or that Zuffa is going to pull their offer off the table now.

by who me on Apr 18, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

M1 has no shame

Theyre like that guy that steals money from their grandma and doesnt care lol

Consider yourself warned, im offensive and creative like handicap porn

by II SMASH II on Apr 18, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is it stealing when all these promotions siign on the dotted line. M-1 is making $ and should not feel bad at all its these stupid ass promtoins who should be reading the writing on the wall and see what the end result is for every other promtion who went to bed with M-1. But for some reason like Strike Force they don’t and thats not M-1’s fault.

by Shocbomb on Apr 18, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's sad when.........

The women divisions are more exciting to watch then the mens.

by MMAGuard on Apr 18, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

How is that sad?

David Price is better than your top young pitcher.

by P Brady on Apr 18, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sad

but for how much shit WMMA gets, at least it always brings the action.

by MMAGuard on Apr 18, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes always….in the 3 or 4 womens fights i remember seeing this year.

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It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
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by DamnSevern on Apr 18, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If SF goes under, the biggest victims are without question the ladies.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 18, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bellator to the rescue?

Keep Firing, Assholes!

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It's only real in the way that I feel from day to day.

by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't think of that!

And I would love, love to see it assuming Strikeforce goes under and Dana doesn’t have a change of heart about ladie’s MMA.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 18, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hendo has never been one of my favorite fighters, but I can’t help but feel sorry for him after last night’s debacle. I hope he enjoyed his time as the most coveted free agent, because all that’s over now. The video footage of him dropping Shields in the first round is the only piece of his fight career, other than the Rings tournament a decade ago, that is not owned by Zuffa. If he were still with the UFC, he could retire tomorrow knowing that his highlights, like the KOs over Wand and Bisping, would be replayed until eternity on shows like Ultimate Knockouts and Best of Pride. Now his legacy could be facing the Frank Shamrock treatment, and on top of that he’s in Undisputed 2010, so the UFC owns some measure of his likeness rights. I don’t know how much money he got from Strikeforce compared to what the UFC was offering, but it’s not going to be enough to make up for the fact that in a few year’s he’ll be retired and trying to live off a legacy that’s controlled by Zuffa.

by Jahbulon on Apr 18, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

More importantly, had Dan stuck with the UFC, he surely would have been in the main event at UFC 112 instead of Maia.

by Steve4192 on Apr 18, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably would have fought Nate 108 or something like that.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

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It's only real in the way that I feel from day to day.

by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He would have gotten a nice deal, would have been part of the top org, which has a bright future, there is no question UFC isnt going anywhere, you cant say that about SF, they m ight never be on CBS again, and showing Clinch Gear on Showtime doesnt mean shit.

He could have gotten PPV money from the UFC, would have been in main events, would have fought Nate for a title shot and then would have fought Silva at 112.

He would have gone into the UFC HOF for sure based on his Pride days, so the UFC would have probably put him in the HOF over the next two years.

Figure Hughes gets in this year, maybe even Pulver. Then Tito probably gets in, and Hendo could have gotten in as well.

He could have staid in the UFC for more fights, there are always fights for him, if he had trouble making MW, pick a fight at LHW.

Randy, Jon Jones, Shogun, Machida, Page, Rashad, Thiago Silva, Chuck, Tito, etc, the list goes on of fights for him.

Even with a loss, he could still headline Spike cards, be on PPV, he really made a bad choice imo leaving the UFC.

He said he was the first and more will follow. You think many more took notice? Lets jump to SF on CBS< be put into the main evnet, lose, and now SF might never be on CBS again and the future of the org is unclear, with the money they are paying, can Showtime alone keep them afloat?

So I think fighters, the big ones might go back to that, yeah maybe they offer a bit more than the UFC, but guess what, I know that the UFC is gonna be here tomorrow, the next day, next year etc, can you say the same for SF?

by KRIS27 on Apr 18, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I feel terrible for Hendo too

But he made an awful decision. I mean, really, he could have gotten some sort of “retirement plan” from the UFC similar too, but less lucrative than, whatever Couture and Hughes have.

He’s one of the all-time greats, but I just feel it in my gut—he’s going to be run out of money and be forced to take fights like Mark Kerr to try to break even.

ugh. I don’t want to think about this any more.

by Lauren J Darkbloom on Apr 18, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably did bad in Canada too because of the playoffs.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

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It's only real in the way that I feel from day to day.

by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Too many other sports options last night

To put on a snoozed of a show like that.

by Worldisart on Apr 18, 2010 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I had a hard time watching the SF show. It was like jury duty.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

The world on a string doesn't mean a thing.
It's only real in the way that I feel from day to day.

by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

givve

The whole card was basicly dead when it was decided that fedor would not compete, the wave from that highlight reel knockout should have generated a lot more viewers.

Like lawal was pointing out, hendo and lindland havent’t done much in recent years to keep their wrestling i tip top shape , great once doesn’t meen always will be. We saw the same thing with lindland against jacaré, he had the hips deep and wasn’t even able to take him down, that’s basic stuff for greco guys.

by Givve on Apr 18, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

duruffio

I thought the weirdest part of the card last night was how bleh Mousasi looked against King Mo. I’d be surprised if his heart rate got about 75 at any point in that fight.

by DuRuffio on Apr 18, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

D'oh

That was supposed to be in reply to givve’s post above.
Dammit. Snarkiness fail.

by DuRuffio on Apr 18, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

DamnSevern

Dont worry, we gotcha.

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It leaves much room for error, and the rest left to destiny."
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by DamnSevern on Apr 18, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strikeforce on CBS = Facepalm

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by 49er16 on Apr 18, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Really can’t see CBS using Strikeforce again. For all the bitching that people do about Fedor, it’s clear they needed his drawing power- 5.5 million is a long ways better that 2.6 million. This will probably be the end of it on CBS.

by TLow on Apr 18, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

CBS decided to cancel before the rating were in and before the riot… With fedor holding out, Hendo losing was the last straw for them.

by mmalogic on Apr 18, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

We dont konw if they really canned it yet, so they could say no Fedor, give it one more chance, put Lashley and Walker and Fedor and Gina on a card, so unless I’m missing something, nothing has officially come out saying they are off CBS, everyoen just assumes they are, but they could get one more shot.

But its not good these ratigns and then the brawl.

by KRIS27 on Apr 18, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

For fucks sake. Yeah I like MMA too but that does not make me oblivious to the reality that is SHITFARCE. Lashley, Walker, Gina, they will be the clockwise swirl pattern in the toilet bowl after a loud flush.

by Bob Boblaw on Apr 18, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

bye bye SF

u were fun while u lasted

and now that theres no more challengers can we please see shields and fedor in the ufc

i dont even care about mousasi anymore the guy literally showed me nothing and isnt a top 10 lhw

by milk72 on Apr 18, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Im waiting for the BE stories...

about this… I mean UFC 112 got like 50. lol

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Apr 18, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

ufc 112 was awesome compared to this card

literally every fight sucked, hendo looked old and shitty, king mo and mousasi (the two up and coming stars on the organization) looked like shit, there was a huge brawl, and the ratings sucked

literally every possible thing that coulda gone wrong for SF did this organization is done on cbs and wont make it till next year

RIP SF

by milk72 on Apr 18, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did the main event start?

by smoogy2 on Apr 18, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

11

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by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was actually a little later than that. They didn’t actually ring the bell until right around 11:10.

by Steve4192 on Apr 18, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fight before the main ended at 10:40, they were running late and it still took 20 minutes to start the next fight.

by Dropkick434 on Apr 18, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strikeforce just seems unorganized and chaotic. If the blackout that occurred right before Nelson and Struve fought at UFN 21 happened during a Strikeforce event, they would have been screwed. It took the UFC a minute to start showing a prelim and then get the show started live again. I just can’t imagine what a disaster that would have been to an organization like Strikeforce.

by ChiCubs23 on Apr 18, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Obviously the terrible fights played a huge factor but...

I’d like to place a large chunk of the blame on the production, too. The announcers are brutal. The commercial breaks are horribly placed. There’s no consistent pace to the show. Everything is all jumbled and nonsensical.

A non-Zuffa promotion on network television must be produced by a fanboy. Whoever has been running these shows from CBS/Showtime needs to be fired immediately.

I specializes in grammar fail.

by a tommy point on Apr 18, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Camera work, too

Some really shoddy stuff last night. Almost as though some entry level kid was handling one of their cameras. And none of this goes to mention their regularly bad production aspects (the embarrassing entrance music, seemingly randomly selecting who to show coming down the ramp, bad audio production).

Outside of Melendez defeating Aoki, this show was truly a worst case scenario for Strikeforce.

Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"

by Blackout612 on Apr 18, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Here's the great stuff I got on my CBS feed

During the Gegard/King Mo fight:
-Mo on top of Mousasi
-Cut away to the beginning of a lumber commercial for 5 seconds
-Back to the fight for another 10 or so seconds
-Blackout for like 5 seconds
-Back to the fight

by dv8shun on Apr 18, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn your inability to HTML.

Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"

by Blackout612 on Apr 18, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn your inability to reply.

by ufc4 on Apr 18, 2010 9:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think the announcer might have been responsible for the ratings. He sounded like he should be at the local carnival trying to convince people to throw a ball into a fishbowl.

by Bob Boblaw on Apr 18, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

so it’s 5:30 on the east and i’m still waiting for the first SF write up from the boys here at BE. I know it’s a sunday but that didn’t stop the UFC 112 articles on here non-stop for several days get on your job people are watching.

by Raker on Apr 18, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m still waiting for the main event to start.

Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"

by Blackout612 on Apr 18, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was ok

it needed some better marketing real week fight like they did not train for the 5 round fight pit some real 5 round fighters in there aoki looked real bad never seen him move so slow the ref real stop him for fighting his fight and need to get some work in the cage for next time. like that but over all i was ok they should of tuck some pointers form wec and seen how they do it on spike may be it would of had hire ratings

by Rob Cares on Apr 18, 2010 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sure if this was covered in all the above

but my DVR stopped recording as I thought the event would end at 10 sharp. Thus, the numbers dropped like a bunch of people who recorded it also did not see the end of the fight. The drastic number drop was truly artificial to those who would’ve liked to see the event but were cut short like I was.

by JAYGK95 on Apr 18, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

CBS shows always run over and it’s always taken into account, heck the number’s for the overrun haven’t even been released yet.

by who me on Apr 18, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I think the overrun numbers and the fact that StrikeForce skews heavily male (a plus for advertisers) might still help them, these numbers are pretty awful. Really, everything that could have gone wrong, did. I’m not convinced that CBS will sever here, but I think StrikeForce’s future on CBS is highly questionable at the very least.

by Chromium on Apr 18, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The demographics do not help them this time, they were last in 18-49 for the first hour and second for the second.

by Phildo on Apr 18, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Men’s 18-49 will be the deciding factor, not overall 18-49, although things certainly aren’t looking good.

by Chromium on Apr 20, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strikefarce = Yawn

Snoozer of a fight. I went in thinking that (a) MMA needs other promos to be successful, not just UFC so Strikeforce has to keep that in mind and (b) why don’t they allow elbows? Boring man…I never fall asleep watching fights and I woke up on the floor next to my son and totally missed the real highlight…Mayhem Miller being himself! LOL!

by RickNakedChoke on Apr 19, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, look on the bright side.

Not too many people would have seen that brawl.

I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP

by pud333 on Apr 19, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

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