Strikeforce in Difficult Position Following Nashville Event
Three title fights end in three five-round decisions. Strikeforce: Nashville didn't go off the air until after 11:30 on the east coast. To make matters worse, the card was punctuated by an after-fight scrum between Jason "Mayhem" Miller and Jake Shields' teammates. Shields had just upset Dan Henderson, the former holder of two divisional titles in Pride. However, Strikeforce's big free agent signing looked every bit his age of 39 following his early heavy-handed onslaught of Shields. That proved to be the bulk of Henderson's offense for the night as Shields controlled the action on the ground.
Strikeforce faces a challenging reality. First of all, Shields has made himself even more attractive to the UFC. It seems logical that he would jump ship when his contract expires in the near future. Strikeforce would lose a fighter who, despite his inability to garner much fan support, has been the promotion's most consistent performer - a champion in both the welterweight and middleweight divisions. Certainly, I and many other fans are interested to see how Shields can perform against Georges St. Pierre, Thiago Alves and the slew of other top welterweights housed in the UFC stable. Dana White is quite aware that he can strike a definitive blow against Scott Coker and Strikeforce by stealing Shields away. I would be surprised if White doesn't pull out all the stops to lure Strikeforce's middleweight champion to the UFC dark side.
Secondly, the after-fight brouhaha between Mayhem Miller and Cesar Gracie's team won't do much to strengthen the company's relationship with CBS/Showtime. This coupled with the event lasting far past its 11:00 p.m. ending point and probable lackluster ratings may well spell the end of Strikeforce on prime time network TV. From the beginning, Strikeforce needed Fedor Emelianenko to fight in Nashville. Whether or not that would have significantly improved public interest in the event is impossible to know. Strikeforce has put a lot into Fedor, so much that they need him for high profile events on CBS.
Lastly, the overall quality of the fights was lacking. Some MMA purists might emphasize the "chess game" aspects of the first two fights, but I think that's both an act of sugarcoating and irrelevant in terms of broadening brand appeal. CBS and Strikeforce need to bring in a large contingent of "casual MMA fans" for the network TV venture to work. Bouts akin to the aforementioned fights won't do the trick. There were a number of exciting moments in the main event, but both Lawal vs. Mousasi and Melendez vs. Aoki featured relatively long periods where meaningful offense was notably absent. On top of that, Gegard Mousasi, one of Strikeforce's risings stars and fresh off of signing a new contract with the promotion, met his kryptonite in the form of a strong wrestler.
Strikeforce has shown what a shallow pool of talent does in the large, unforgiving arena of "free TV." So much emphasis is placed with so few names that when they under-perform so does the larger promotion. There are no back-up plans. The name value of Strikeforce's star fighters has always been suspect. When some fail to deliver and some leave, there's not much left to go with. The most recent installment of Saturday Night Fights should lay to rest any illusions that Strikeforce is meaningful competition to the UFC.
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Habs/Caps was awesome.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
The world on a string doesn't mean a thing.
It's only real in the way that I feel from day to day.
The 6th Army at Stalingrad was a difficult position.
This is a disaster.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
The world on a string doesn't mean a thing.
It's only real in the way that I feel from day to day.
by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 1:35 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Thanks.
That means a lot coming from the original grand poobah at BE.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
The guys they got wrapped up long term recently both lost badly, but the main event winner isn’t, the show had every fight going to a long drawn out and mostly unexciting 5 round decision (no fight was even close in the end) and three of their champions and one of their most popular stars got in to a huge brawl to end the show. That’s not to mention the piss poor announcing performance by Frank Shamrock or the fact that the crowd constantly boo’d through much of the event. Yea that was a bad night.
On the bright side
If they do miraculously get another kick at the can with CBS, it cannot possibly end up worse than tonight.
Not all bad...
I didn’t think it was all bad, was it?
I think the winners were, Lawal & Shields.
But I agree,
Strikeforce has shown what a shallow pool of talent does in the large, unforgiving arena of “free TV.” So much emphasis is placed with so few names…
"I'm Nobody's FanBoy" - higgledy-piggledy
by higgledy-piggledy on Apr 18, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't be so sure
I keep thinking the same thing as an O’s fan with our 1-10 record. And we lost yesterday basically on a 3rd strike passed ball. It can ALWAYS be worse..
"I strongly suggest watching the O’s play while on a powerful, legal, prescribed narcotic. All the COLORS!!!!! and that Dempsey really makes sense. " - Adam double bubble
What sucks is that on paper, these fights looked like they had the potential to be exciting. Strikeforce was pretty lucky for a while in that they had a Scott Smith/Robbie Lawler comeback, or a Fedor KO, or something that was memorable on their bigger cards. This card though, just nothing went in Strikeforce’s favor as if it were karmic to the point where the end of the card had an utter debacle in more-or-less a gang beating. I was one of the few that thought that Strikeforce wouldn’t be real competition to the UFC, but Strikeforce could at least be that organization that had “fun” fights, but now I have to wonder if they will even stay afloat.
Shields is not a draw
So why would the UFC want him? They already have a Fitch,and also you have to consider the whole post-fight brawl. Shields was throwing punches too (even if they were extremely weak).
Overall I just think it’s a bad idea, he brings absolutely nothing to the table.
You don’t need a draw to fight GSP to sell a shit ton of PPVs.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
The world on a string doesn't mean a thing.
It's only real in the way that I feel from day to day.
Personally I wouldn’t pay to see that fight (probably wouldn’t watch the whole thing for free if it went past 3 rounds), but if you say so…
30 million
crazy Canadian MMA fans say so, no us.
Dana White had publicly stated that he wants him, even if it’s just to drive up Shield’s cost the UFC is going to try and sign him.
As far as the brawl goes that isn’t going to affect White’s desire to “compete” with Strikeforce/Showtime. white will blame the brawl on Strikeforce being “bush league” and not having proper security, it won’t lower their interest in Shield’s at all.
yep...video confirmation here
Dana says it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP3M9JyejbM#t=02m30s
"I'm Nobody's FanBoy" - higgledy-piggledy
by higgledy-piggledy on Apr 18, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought being on network TV meant handing over the production of the show to the network. So does that not mean that the blame for running over the allotted time should fall on CBS themselves? I don’t know how these things work so I’m curious.
CBS runs the tv production but Strikeforce is still running the actual event so that would depend on the “why” of them running over the timeslot. In this case they ran over because all three fights went 5 rounds and that wasn’t something CBS had any control over.
That's just embarassing
There are three potential 5 round fights. With a minute between each round and fighter introductions etc, at most, championship fights should be taking 35 minutes. Going 45 minutes over the 2 hour time slot to show 3 championship fights was a disaster. CBS should have been prepared for a worst case scenario time wise (3 decisions) and they clearly were not.
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by Brian Hemminger on Apr 18, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
They apparently were prepared for the worst case scenario being as they didn’t shut broadcast down early. They always plan on having a significant run over for these CBS shows, no a one of them has ever ended on time. Booking three title fights on one card was a bad move to start with but for all we know CBS fully planned for the worst case scenario from the start.
As far as your number’s go yea it was bad that they went so far over but the whole 35 minute bit isn’t going to fly, they have all sorts of post fight interviews and they normally run build up video packages before the fights and no event sends out the next set of fighters immediately after the last fight is over, there is always a significant gap between fights. There is going to be significant gaps between fights regardless of who is doing the tv production because that is just the nature of these events. If CBS asked for extra time between the fights then that would fall directly on them and obviously it falls on CBS for ok’ing three title fights to be booked on the show but the actual pace of the event tends to fall on the promotion.
Going overtime probably isn’t a huge deal if they’re pulling good ratings which they did not. Of course it probably would have been better to get done before 11:30. To me, the pacing wasn’t terrible. There were some instances where I thought they could have sped it up, but that part wasn’t as bad as the commentating.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea if they went 45 minutes over pulling 5 million viewers then they would love it. I do have to wonder at CBS’s knowledge of the sport at this point being as they not only allowed for three title fights but they counted on Dan Henderson to be their mega-draw for the card. The ratings are bad but not surprising to the average fan but was CBS surprised by the ratings?
Ah i see. Was it just me or did it seem like they took a really long time between the second and third fights? Even with the highlights from the Miller fight in there, it seemed like a really long gap. And who’s decision would it have been to still air the Miller highlights even though they knew they were going to be over the allotted time? CBS or SF?
Yes that gap there may of been on CBS back but there is always significant time between fights, they don’t just run the next fighters out there as soon as the other fight is over.
STRIKEFORCE ON CBS
This all on Scott Coker,he continues to allow the Cesar Gracie Fight team to run around like a bunch of thugs.This Brawl has put the nail in the coffin of MMA on CBS.These guys involve all needed to be suspensed and fined.So stupid acts like these will not happen again.If I’m not mistaken this is the second time the Diaz brothers have been involved,in and in ring brawl.
by TERRENCEFROMSOUTHEAST on Apr 18, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions

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