Dana White reacts to the end of Strikeforce: Nashville
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What a dunce. This looks bad on MMA, not just Strikeforce or CBS.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2010 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
But he can weather this storm. Think Mongols flinging diseased corpses into cities.
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by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No it does not Dana will say I told you so and this is what happens when you deal with a 2nd rate MMA show. I can see it now
by Shocbomb on Apr 18, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Just like he did after the last EliteXC fight/debacle. Heck White will probably end up on tv talking about how bad the brawl was himself and then he will point out that it wasn’t his company that allowed it to happen.
Well, antics like this are part of the reason why Nick Diaz isn’t with the UFC.
by Polyhedron on Apr 18, 2010 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yea, he’ll spin it that way
it still doesn’t look great for MMA in general though
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by JeremyShane on Apr 18, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
And I think we can stop wringing our hands about the future of MMA in North America. It’s here to stay, and a shitty card here and there isn’t going to end the party.
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by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
MMA in the USA is just fine
Strikeforce, however, better be able to survive on what Shotime is willing to pay and a gate of 6K per event, because they won’t be on CBS again.
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Dana will somehow try to twist this. I can’t wait for his reaction on tape after this card.
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not sure how much twisting is necessary
it was pretty bad on its own merits
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by Cory Braiterman on Apr 18, 2010 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Come on now…. so your just going to call him a dunce because he tweets a smiley face.
Maybe it was a smiley face for Jake Shields beating Dan Henderson and knowing he is going to do everything in his power to sign Jake Shields. But yeah I know it’s Dana White so all assumptions of anything he does has to be the most negative thought you can have.
Just BE.
by mattman73 on Apr 18, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
Maybe his wife tweeted him she loved him and he tweeted her a smiley face. Hell he could have been tweeting a smiley face to all the UFC fans thanking him for the UFC 110 PPV on Spike.
I was just throwing something out there as a possibility. At least I’m not automatically assuming something and then slinging names. Now granted it may come out he was smiling about something that was stupid but to pass that judgment without seeing more than just the smiley is what is a stretch.
Just BE.
again this assumes dana cares about "mma" in the grand sense
he doesn’t. this will impact strikeforce far more negatively than the ufc, and maintaining the supremacy of the ufc brand is more important right now that the overall growth of the sport.
Dana cares about The UFC more than he cares about MMA
There’s a difference. And you’re naive if you think this won’t hurt the UFC just as much as it’ll hurt Strikeforce. MMA = UFC in the publics eye. I guarantee the media will refer to it as Ultimate Fighting instead of Strikeforce.
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by Damon O. on Apr 18, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it will impact the ufc, no doubt
but seeing strikeforce fail would have an even bigger impact.
"hurt the UFC as much as itll hurt Strikeforce"
Puh-lease.
Strikeforce is dead in the water. UFC will continue to make bank. This will only stunt growth. for the UFC if anything, it definitely won’t aide in their losing customers. Spike’s still gonna be on board, MMA isn’t going to lose sanctioning anywhere or anything, etc etc.
In the big scheme of things, this is basically nothing but an opportunity for those who already hate or sport to say, “I told you so.”
IMHO, anyways
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by troy145 on Apr 18, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think this has the potential to hurt the UFC as much at all.
Strikeforce just potentially had it’s last show on CBS, this would be a pretty major step back for them. The UFC may catch some flack by default, but their business is probably going to keep powering along same as usual. The UFC is considerably stronger than Strikeforce plus they have the luxury of this event not technically happening in their organization which people will be pointing out at least somewhat frequently if not all the time. This looked bad yeah, and the typical haters will use this as ammunition but it’s not like this has the ability to shut down MMA in general.
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I think this could have a negative impact on the UFC
Zuffa wants the UFC more mainstream, going so far as positioning itself with Versus. Big time networks may be a little more hesitant in agreeing to terms with UFC after this incident. It could even financially impact any potential deal if MMA as a whole takes a hit in the public’s eye (which it undoubtedly will with the not so casual fan).
On Zuffa’s side of the arguement, though, is that they’ve never had anything like this happen; and I wouldn’t doubt it if we saw a little added security around the octogon for future events, just in case.
hahaha
Sherdog has a thread titled “Dana White is Smiling Right Now”
this looks like a confirmation
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we all pretty much knew dana watches the strikeforce cards
this confirms it.
i could be wrong
but i bet he was watching more for business than for pleasure. seeing hendo and ayoki fail is good for the ufc, as is seeing shields and king mo succeed.
of course he watches it; was this really up for debate?
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by JeremyShane on Apr 18, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too.
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by ANance on Apr 18, 2010 12:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dana is forgetting...
The Silva Fight…
And the GSP Fight…
And the Penn/Edgar 5-Round jabfest…
And the fact that a big UFC Middleweight just lost…
And the declining PPV buys…
He's got Brock Lesnar in his back pocket
He’s got no reason to be concerned.
by Trysdor on Apr 18, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Big ass pocket.
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by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Can't wait...
For Carwin to push him up against the cage like Randy did…
And then tee of like he did against Mir…
Fuck...
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by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
zzz
keep paying for your shitty events
I’ll wait from something exciting to happen
Not all opinions are created equal.
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by Ubernoober on Apr 18, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no but you are just wrong about a bunch of things there
especially declining ppv
the only poor ppv sales have been shitty cards
112 just broke a record for best selli g over seas ppv card
by Richard Doughty on Apr 18, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Those were decision wins but didn’t have street fight break out during the post fight interveiws. That was horrible for strikefoce on national tv. Also Dan is a former ufc middleweight and his loss will not affect the ufc just like arlovski or Tim silvias losses didn’t.
by JCBee on Apr 18, 2010 12:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You forgot to keep your mouth shut instead of embarassing yourself with your infantile opinions
If you think Penn losing and shaking up the lightweight division, or GSP doing what he always does and being loved for it, or White essentially trading Henderson for Shields are negatives for him, you’re not very bright.
by yukkurishiteittene on Apr 18, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You said infantile...
I’m impressed like WHOA, son.
It’s quite alright; I don’t think any less of you for not addressing my (admittedly irrefutable) arguments and instead trying to save face by pretending to be aloof and “not caring.”
Sometimes you got to know when to fold ’em.
by yukkurishiteittene on Apr 18, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree with olimario, the ufc is screwed they peaked a while ago, tonight worked out worse for dana white than anyone else, brocks gonna get destroyed than all the states will ban mma again and honestly you said the word infantile im impressed like whoa
like whoa s0n
by jackmerridew on Apr 18, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
If you honestly think the UFC and MMA is finished because of this situation you aren’t a true MMA fan and shouldn’t even be in this sight. Every sport has fights. Basketball, football, hockey, every sport. It honestly looked a little rigged and CBS could have immediately cut that from the show if they wanted. They even showed replays if it so they couldn’t of that it was that horrible.
by JCBee on Apr 18, 2010 1:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dana in his living room after that Brawl
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by 49er16 on Apr 18, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 20 recs
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 18, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Geez, Brent, where ya been?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
don't know how to post them, but ariel herwani's twitter...
…has some of coker’s comments from the post-fight press conference, denouncing what happened. just thought i’d mention it, since there was some speculation in the main dicussion, that the whole thing was staged
it was still way more entertaining than the last anderson silva fight
everything dana white says is a complete lie
by slantedwindows on Apr 18, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
He should note...
that signed UFC fighter Nate Diaz was throwing kicks at Mayhem. He shouldn’t be too happy.
by William Wilson on Apr 18, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
no, his brother Nick is signed
everything dana white says is a complete lie
by slantedwindows on Apr 18, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He meant Nate's signed with the UFC
and was taking shots at Mayhem too.
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Am I the only one who laugh at this ?
Does Gus Johnson understand his job ?
somthing dana doesnt realize
Atleast we didnt haft to pay to watch this card :). unlike the last ufc
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by yukkurishiteittene on Apr 18, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
did anyone else think.........
that ea sports mma looks bad?
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by GOLDIGGAH on Apr 18, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I was willing
to let those earlier pics and gameplay videos slide since people were saying it was still in the developing stages, but what I saw tonight looked just awful. Undisputed may look similar to the first, but at least it’s a slightly improved version of the first which was already highly entertaining anyway.
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VOTE
I would love to get a vote on who was at pure fault for the physicality post-Shields Fight:
Shields’ camp
OR
Mayhem
I love me some me.
Mayhem was at fault.
Mayhem should have never interrupted Jake Shields. That was the biggest win of his career and he deserved the spotlight to himself.
Just BE.
Sheilds camp where the one’s that threw the first blows, no matter what douchey thing somebody does unless they physically come at you first you cant just have a five guy mugging and expect to be in the right, and no Mayhem putting his arm around Sheilds doesn’t count.
"With great power comes great responsibility" -Spiderman's Uncle
So if it was a one guy mugging that would be ok? How many guys reacted is irrelevant, Miller shouldn’t of been there and Shield’s corner should of just got security to toss Miller out of the cage instead of pushing him(assuming there actually was any security around to keep this kind of stuff from starting).
Blaming Miller for this one is pretty off. He was being a bit of a jackass, but so what? He isn’t responsible for the actions of other people, especially if those people are named Diaz.
and should have (or should’ve) not “should of”
I’m not trying to be a dick, but it’s impossible to not look like a dick when you are correcting someone’s grammar.
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Yep, Mayhem shouldn’t of been jumped like that but then he shouldn’t of been there to start with either. If he’d not stuck his nose in and made an ass out of himself then there would of been no brawl at all. Both were at fault for the end product but if it wasn’t for Miller’s actions there would of been no brawl at all. Miller had no business being there or sticking his nose into the interview.
First thing
it wouldn’t have been okay if it was one on one but you cant deny the fact that five guys all jumping on one is somewhat worse. Secondly Mayhem does not at all share the same amount of responsibillity for a brawl that he did not initiate, just going in the ring and stealing some thunder should not register as “okay now this guy deserves to be jumped by a group of fighters.” Yeah it was goofy and a stupid thing for him to do, but as far as whos responsible for the violence its the people that reacted violently to a passive situation.
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He initiated it just by sticking his nose in and trying to steal the mike from Jake Shields, good grief he had no reason to be there and was looking to cause trouble, he doesn’t get a pass on this crap. It wasn’t a passive situation he pushed Shields out of the way and tried to take the mike in the middle of an interview, it was a guy trying to cause trouble. Yes the brawl shouldn’t of happened but Miller shouldn’t of been in the damn cage to start with and if he wasn’t there would of never been a brawl at all. You can’t give the guy a pass when this entire thing started with him being a dick.
I don't excuse him at all
I said it was a stupid thing for him to do, but it’s the fault of the Shields camp more than anybody since they were the ones throwing. And I also think your exaggerating as far as Mayhem “pushing” Jake out of the way.
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Mayhem probably shouldn’t have gone where he wasn’t invited; stuff like that should be planned by the promoters.
But Shields did tap him on the stomach and say “ask this guy”. And I think if they had just told him to “earn his rematch” or whatever he would have just gone away. There was no reason to jump him and start a brawl.
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by JeremyShane on Apr 18, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Im calling it. Probably the end of the road for strikeforce. CBS will pull it when the contracts are up and they won’t be able to pay fighters with just Showtimes budget. Strikeforce will collapse like the rest and Dana will pick up the scraps. Now its inevitable.
but then where will fedor sign
where he can avoid juicers AND brock/carwin/velasquez? or maybe m-1 will finally step up and be the big time promotion they keep assuring us they are.
Bellator.
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Could've swapped shows with UFC 112 and the reaction would've been roughly the same.
Not sure what he’s so happy about other than being the head of an infinitely more successful and stable promotion.
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you hit the nail on the head
the ufc can weather a storm of 112’s magnitude. it’s not certain strikeforce can survive this.
It helps that Strikeforce just went and made 112 look like the height of professionalism.
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by toxic on Apr 18, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ditto
UFC 112 was entertaining, even the last fight was for at least 3 rounds and then there was a freakshow factor. This was 3 big name fights of boring fights.
by kibbled_bits on Apr 18, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
i mean, think about it
this event positively showcased two fighters that may soon sign with the ufc, it made hendo look bad and it may have even killed strikeforce, it made it look bad at the very least. AND it knocked ayoki down the lw rankings. there was a lot to make dana happy with this show.
Honestly
it’s almost as if Dana planned it himself. Poor production, mind numbing commentary (when you make people miss Goldie you know you have a problem, weak performance by all the right fighters not associated or to be associated with the UFC, and on top of all that every bit of footage from the new EA game looked super weak. Even without the brawl this was a bad night for Strikeforce and potentially their last show on CBS regardless.
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I think the Celtics/Heat brawl happening tonight was a lucky coincidence for MMA. Which event will the media want to cover more tomorrow?
UFC 113 and UFC 114 will do bank. UFC is fine.
Strikeforce is in crisis after this. Big paychecks but on Showtime, low gates… you can’t survive long term.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 18, 2010 1:49 AM EDT reply actions
That show was a joke on so many levels.
Oh my god, heres my question, where is the outrage?
Where is Kid Nate? I mean had this been in the UFC, that show, like 112, which lets be honest, wasnt as bad as this card, had more fights, and didnt have the most disgusting brawl on network tv happen, and yet you trash 112, UFC, and Dana white for it.
So where is the SF bashing? The show sucked, the matches were boring, Mousasi is the most overrated fighter, and I’ve been saying it forever, I never thought Aoki was shit, guy has nothing but subs, he couldnt beat BJ, Florian, Edgar, probably not Maynard, Tyson, Sototropolis etc.
The main event, Dana must be loving Hendo getting dominated by a WW. SF lost in so many ways, there big hyped Mousasi just resigned, he lost and was exposed, there big new star Hendo, big contract, just, Jake upped his stock and probably and hopefully will come to the UFC.
And then the brawl.
Now if that happened in the UFC, this site would blame Dana white, why you ask, cause they would say Dana and the UFC allows people, other fighters, people who arent in either camp, arent corner men, officials etc, they allowed someone else into the ring, now you can say in the UFC that is planned, they tell Rashad to go confront Page, ok, thats staged shit, not what happens is staged, but it is set up, but then atleast you know its coming and can control it, guys wont go crazy.
This, Miller came in, tried to steal some of Jakes spotlight like a dick and Gilbert started it, and the Diaz brothers started this shit.
Had this been in the UFC, it would be Dana getting slammed for allowing Miller to even get into the cage, but since it happened in SF, seems like it didnt even happen.
Shit, there would be 10 articles about how the UFC is bad for the sport, embarrassed the sport, how Dana should be fired, he caused this etc.
But man.
You have everything go as wrong as possible. Mousasi resigns, lost, was exposed, top LHW my ass. boring fight. Aoki was so overrated, and Gilbert didnt look that good to me, he look solid, but his boxing didnt look that sharp, I think a top LW would have finished that fight.. And the poster boy Hendo, big contract, comes in to be the new champ got dominated big time,
Fights werent good, guys SF wanted to win like Henod and Mousasi lost, and then the brawl.
It made the sport look so bad, and for people who saw that for the first time, its a shame they think this is the UFC, when its clearly not.
Thats why i dont get it, if it wsa the UFC this site woudl be attacking the holy shit out of them for this embarrassment, but it was SF so they get a pass?
Poor announcers, production, brawl, it was a total wreck for SF.
I dont see how CBS puts this back on tv. if they dont, and they only are on showtime, will they survive?
Can they survive the big Fedor and Hendo deals, Diaz making 100k etc fighting only on Showtime?
Maybe a venture into PPV?
Thats the only way.
PUt Fedor, Hendo, Diaz, Mousasi, Mo, everyoen on a PPV and hope 400k people buy it if they stack a card.
by KRIS27 on Apr 18, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You didn't hear?
Strikeforce is on a whole different level.
by Riney on Apr 18, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you on most part, but Mousasi did well imho. Oke maybe he is over-hyped but he fought hard and King Mo grinded and rode this match out. Mousasi is also to blame for one dimensional fight, he did the same as he predicted King Mo would do; “fall back into what you know” (and witch King Mo did), up-kicks and triangles, what he did to Manhoef and Jacare :). I more see this fight as a draw (excluding the kick to the face of a downed opponent)
by STEVENvanGEEL on Apr 18, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my god, heres my question, where is the outrage?
Maybe you were thinking they should have a title like this on the front page:
Post-Event Thoughts – Strikeforce: Nashville – ‘Mayhem’ Miller Criminally Assaulted by Members of Cesar Gracie Camp
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/4/18/1428694/post-event-thoughts-strikeforce
or perhaps comments like this:
but the potential business implications of a dismal show that included three straight five round decisions — all of them mostly one-sided — and ended in a bench clearing brawl between the defending champion and his team against one member of Dan Henderson’s Team Quest.http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/4/18/1428650/dan-henderson-team-mate-jason
Dana White was the big winner of virtually every fight on this card.
I’ll let Cageside wallow in the atrocities of the brawl. We’ll be back with much more coverage of the business implications of this event almost all of them great for the UFC, bad for CBS and dismal for Strikeforce.
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