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Jake Shields Talks About Being a Life Long Vegetarian

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Do you feel that eating meat is a necessity for being masculine or tough? I’m asking not because I’m vegetarian (I don’t eat a ton of meat, but that’s mainly because it’s tough and expensive to find grass-fed), but I’m interested in how people view masculinity.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 17, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s manly just to eat meat; but it does seem like a lot of the vegetarians I know are a bit scrawny so I can imagine if that’s the majority of vegans out there then what the perception might be. So maybe the goal is just to show some strength and muscle more-so than manliness.

Would be funny if Brock Lesnar ran in and ripped a Jake Shields mannequin in half in an ad for the meat industry though.

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by JeremyShane on Apr 17, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude holy shit?

Greatest possible ad campaign ever? I would go out and buy a steak the moment I watched something like that.

by Patrick John McGreevy on Apr 17, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Do you not treat your own pets well (if you have any?). What is wrong with caring about animals? Even if you eat meat you should still prefer humane over inhumane treatment. Enjoying the poor treatment of animals is psychopathic.

by LucasM on Apr 17, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Puss huh?

If he’s a puss your a truly disrespectful dude. If you gave a fuck you’d watch a movie on factory farms. But you don’t b/c it’s inconvenient so ignorance you enjoy. That’s you man.

Hypothetical, take your favorite animal in your history (dog or cat) put a chain around it’s hind leg and string it over a tree or something about 10 feet high. Now take a hammer and break the dogs hind leg that the chains around, cus that’s a regular occurance at these farms. Then slit it’s throat and watch it thrash back and forth for about 12 minutes depending on how good you got in there with the 12" blade. This sucks.

Cows and pigs are as intelligent as any animal in any capitalistic society. Dont think they don’t feel the absolute terror of being next up, when in line to be killed. There in a line of 20 cows watching the ones infront of them thrash back in forth and blood flowing everywhere while hanging from a chain. These animals are shaking uncontrollably with fright waiting for there pitiful destiny. And you call Shields a puss, honestly I laughed my ass off. Good job of doing you brotha!!!

by god-damn long hair on Apr 17, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bleeding out like that

is actually a religious thing, Jewish I believe. The animals need to be bled out like that for the meat to be considered Kosher. Are people not allowed to practice their faith now?

by Patrick John McGreevy on Apr 17, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing religious there!

That type of slaughter is common and an easy way out, so to speak. You wanna talk religious slaughter, gotcha. Kosher Meat. On a factory farm designed for kosher meat goes a little like this. Cows are prodded (electrocuted) into runs, where turning around is not an option and going forward towards the definition of inhumanity is the only option. The cows are prodded so they move down the run. And the men yell all the while prodding them down the runs. So the cows are absolutely experiencing terror. They understand that there’s nothing good going on. So 15 – 20 cows in a line being prodded towards a machine. Machine resembles the death star from star wars and is bout 15’ by 15’. So the cow in the on-deck circle has just watched with terror his future. The cow is then prodded by up to 5 prod’s to get him to enter the machine. He steps in and the machine clamps down on his body so he can’t move at all. The machine makes a loud noise and flips the cow upside down. One of the criteria for being kosher is that the butcher cannot put a hand on the animal. So the animal is turned upside down with only it’s throat exposed. A man dressed in a bee keeper suit covered in blood head to toe, takes his blade and slits the cows throat by it’s chest and what happens next resembles a fire hydrant being opened up, blood goes everywhere (shoots vertically about 10 feet). He then cuts it by the mouth and connects the two cuts. Pushes the seperated meat (4 inches deep and 18 inches long) with his knife to the floor and the contraption filps back over. It opens up and the cow tumbles out to the right of the machine. He crashes into previously slaughtered cows, stands up and suffocates to death in about a minute and change. That’s religious slaughter right there.

by god-damn long hair on Apr 17, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

There not simply hanging and bleeding out. They’re killed and hanging on a chain which is connected to a conveyor belt type thing. Conveyor belt moves when the operator wishes. Having no regard to religious practices. Just doing their job. And truly, I feel just as bad for the people who have to endure going to this fucked up job as the animals, almost. Anyways, their next dipped in scolding hot water to clean its hide. And most cows are still alive when this happens. It’s not religious.

by god-damn long hair on Apr 17, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

If eating steak is so macho, how about you take a bite of my juicy succulent meat?

by Jess3a3 on Apr 17, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love animals

they taste so good.

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by KingAtRock on Apr 17, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

As Ron White said...

“I didn’t climb to the top of the food chain to eat carrots.”

by dreamers_12345 on Apr 17, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

and Jeff Foxworthy said...

“Vegetables are what food eats”

The rest... is virtually identical

by randy maverick on Apr 17, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maddox has some funny articles, too bad he hasn’t written anything this year at all :(

by DirtyML on Apr 17, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ignorance is just… so charming.

by naturalist on Apr 17, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im the furthest thing from a vegetarian

But i can respect this. Inhumane treatment blows. Whether you eat meat or not, you should be able to get behind more ethical treatment of the animals. Aside from that, animals that are treated better are typically healthier for you.

Also, the video title mentions “vegan health.” Is Jake a vegetarian or a vegan?

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by troy145 on Apr 17, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

His wiki says vegetarian

As far as I know, Mac Danzig is the only high-profile vegan mixed martial artist.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 17, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aaaand that's a rec

There’s a right way to push for animal welfare, and PETA isn’t it.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 17, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

I think they mentioned during UFC 111 that Saunders and Fitch were both either vegans or were on non-meat diets for their fight. As long as they’re not associating themselves with PETA then that’s completely cool with me.

by rabrown on Apr 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They kill animals because they can’t take care of a million stray dogs. It’s humane and if you knew anything about PETA you would know they advocate spading/neutering to prevent overpopulation and the need for euthanization.

by frosnt1 on Apr 17, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comment of the year for me.

by TLow on Apr 17, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is that PETA euthanizes animals at a much higher rate than other pet shelters. Even your local county run shelter probably has a lower kill rate than the 85% PETA shelters average. Many privately run shelters have got their numbers down into the single digits.

You would think that an organization that is all about the sanctity of animal life would go all out to find those pets new homes like other progressive shelters. Instead, they slaughter them by the truckloads because it is cheaper than doing community outreach programs and putting people on staff whose job is to find new homes for the pets. They would rather kill the puppies and kittens and spend their money on celebrity endorsements.

by Steve4192 on Apr 17, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok steve, please tell us which celebs PETA has paid? dont you think it’s much more likely that the celebs donate their time and their name to the charity? or did they pay Shields too?

by naturalist on Apr 17, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miss the point much?

Fine.

They would rather their executive officers nice fat bonuses rather than save a puppy.

by Steve4192 on Apr 17, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not too mention how hilariously sexist all of Peta’s adverts are. Peta is the worst.

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by Neil Manich on Apr 17, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is the biggest issue for me too. PETA consistently uses women as sex objects in their ads and calls their detractors sexist.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 17, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misunderstanding euthanization

There are way too many dogs/cats in the United States, and not enough people to care for them. Everyone should spay/neuter their pets, and if you want a new pet you should go to a shelter.

Euthanizing animals is sadly the last resort, and acting like it is done out of malice towards animals, or that it represents hypocrisy for PETA, is a complete misrepresentation.

by LucasM on Apr 17, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is hypocrisy

in that PETA supporters protest other groups which euthanize animals.

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by pdl on Apr 17, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t have a problem with euthanization as a last resort. I have a problem with it as an economically driven first resort. PETA euthanizes over 85% of the pets that enter their shelters. That is WAY above the average and many of the more progressive shelters have had great success with community outreach programs in boosting their adoption rate and have either adopted no kill policies or have got their kill rates down in the single digits.

You would expect an animal rights organization to have a lower kill rate than your local dogcatcher, but the facts say otherwise. Rather than spending their money on aggressive adoption campaigns, they spend it flashy billboards and executive compensation.

by Steve4192 on Apr 17, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow that marbling is crazy, wish I could get steaks like that.

by YoungGun on Apr 17, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love steaks

But that shit looks terrible

by banter on Apr 17, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wagyu beef son. Best steaks on the planet. Expensive as hell.

“A very special breed that orginated from Japan. Massaged daily, fed beer and played classical music this cow lives the dream. You will never experience a more relaxed, tasty steak.”

by fozo on Apr 17, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

for my money, nothing beats a well dry aged porterhouse.

mmm zombie beef.

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by slantedwindows on Apr 17, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orca?

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by Neil Manich on Apr 17, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol Okra.....you've never eaten Okra?

Maybe if I said “save the broccoli” it might have been funnier…..

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by Captain Fubar on Apr 17, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okra wins for obscurity.

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by Earl Montclair on Apr 17, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plants can’t feel pain, so they don’t suffer when killed & eaten.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 17, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have no proof of this.

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by KingAtRock on Apr 17, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just asked my girlfriends birthday flowers if they felt pain. They completely ignored me and just sat there. So i learned three things:

1. Roses are stuck up, hurtful snobs.
2. Plants don’t feel pain.
3. I am not a plant, because after being shunned by a flower, I felt pain.

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by Earl Montclair on Apr 17, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

1. Roses are stuck up, hurtful snobs.
2. Plants don’t feel pain complain to other species.
3. I am not a plant, because after being shunned by a flower, I felt pain.

by asa on Apr 17, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually.

Mythbusters proved this.

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by ANance on Apr 17, 2010 2:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't know that

I just looked that up and was surprised to see. But really, whether a living thing feels pain is not a valid test to determine if it is humane to kill it. The fact is, we are still killing something.

Vegetarians who think like this need to get off their high horse. If you just don’t eat meat because you don’t like it or have been raised otherwise, cool.

by baswoot on Apr 17, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is a silly argument

A desire to avoid inflicting unnecessary pain and fear on animals is the very definition of “humane.” A plant has no brain and no nervous function, and cannot feel pain or fear, at least not as we understand it. A pig, which is much smarter than your dog, can feel those things, so drawing the line dividing what you kill and what you don’t somewhere between pigs and plants is not only valid, but entirely humane.

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by Monte Fisto on Apr 17, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

A plant has no brain and no nervous function, and cannot feel pain or fear, at least not as we understand it.

This is key. Hooking a plant to a polygraph does not prove anything beyond it not having a nervous system that can be read reliably by a polygraph.

And even the polygraph detected an electrical reaction to other living things in the room.

by asa on Apr 17, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s called a central nervous system and a brain. do you have one?

by naturalist on Apr 17, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

they may not feel pain

but millions of insects and animals die n the harvesting of plants.

how come there’s no peta for insects? not cuddly enough?

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by slantedwindows on Apr 17, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

PETA couldnt...

get Pamela Anderson to pose semi-naked covered with insects for their calendar. That’s why.

by baswoot on Apr 17, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatever pamela anderson wants me to do

i’m doing the exact opposite.

everything dana white says is a complete lie

by slantedwindows on Apr 17, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have never had a problem with anybodys race, ethnicity, religion, gender, political view or sexual preference, but damn I despise vegetarians

by nogroundgame on Apr 17, 2010 2:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Why? I’ve never understood why people take offense at vegetarians. Is it an implicit attack on their lifestyle that puts people on the defensive?

by LucasM on Apr 17, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think vegetarians are smug bastards

who completely forget the fact that they actually live in a society where not eating meat is a socioeconomic choice, rather than circumstance.

everything dana white says is a complete lie

by slantedwindows on Apr 17, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

this right here, and always talking about how healthy their choice is, despite the fact that many of them are morbidly obese.

by nogroundgame on Apr 17, 2010 4:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The obesity rate among vegetarians is overall much lower than among the general population

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 17, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

then why is every fat Wiccan broad vegan? shouldn’t that tilt the stats?

by nogroundgame on Apr 17, 2010 4:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ah yes, Fat Wiccan Broad’s Razor. Truly the spoiler of every scientific study.

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 17, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some annoy me

The ones who brag about it, like it’s something to brag about lol. Or the ones that try to convert others are just as bad as bible-pushers.

We eat with one girl who tells the waiter she is a vegan everytime she orders. Even when we go to the places that cater to vegans and have an entire page of the menu with vegan entrees with a big giant “100% VEGAN” header over it. So annoying.

by baswoot on Apr 17, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Hendo dumps a bucket of fake blood on Jake after the fight.

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by Earl Montclair on Apr 17, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Why bother?

As Shields will have a bucket of real blood dripping from his nose and forehead during the fight…

by argyle on Apr 17, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Really cool insight

Thanks for sharing this here, it’s always interesting to see an insider’s take.

A lot of the points you raise remind me of Food, Inc. Have you seen it? If you have, what did you think?

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by Tedd Welch on Apr 17, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not farmed fish?

First, thanks for the story & rec’d.

I’ll of course google it, but I’d love to hear why you say not to eat farmed fish. And when you say farmed fish, does that include the cans of tuna I eat everyday?

by baswoot on Apr 17, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

watch Food Inc.

Take it with a grain of salt and don’t let any one thing rule your life whether it be vegetarianism, anti-corporate shils, pro-corporate shills or whatever

by kibbled_bits on Apr 18, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I say don’t eat farmed fish(I guess I mean farmed salmon), because of the allegations that net pond ocean farms of salmon are contaminating and infecting naturally migrating schools of salmon with a deadly form of sea lice. Affecting natural fish stocks on both N. American seaboards. But again I say, allegations. I make my decision not to eat farmed salmon based on my own research on the subject.

by bubbafat on Apr 18, 2010 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I quit eating meat for a month once,

Just to see if I could survive on the veggies I like. Then I celebrated by eating a big steak. Mmmm, cow.

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by ANance on Apr 17, 2010 2:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Fear Shields’ Pre-Fight Hype WOOO

by Postpubescent on Apr 17, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not a vegetarian, but I do try to avoid eating meat that’s been raised with a ton of antibiotics, cruelty, and bad living conditions, partly because it’s decent, but mostly because it’s better for me. Not eating food that has been raised in its own feces is important.

Peta does some things badly, but in this ad, they’re pushing a reasonable message in a reasonable way. Good for Jake Shields for being a part of that.

by Carpal on Apr 17, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I cut out hamburger meat

when I learned they use ammonia as a filler (to supposedly help reduce ecoli outbreaks). Which sucks, because I love me a good In-N-Out double double animal style.

I love meat, but I don’t like the idea of them shoving chemicals in there that are going to end up being cancer in 20 yrs from now. This year, I’m going in halves with a friend to go to a local farmer and pay for an entire cow to be cut up and put my share in a freezer. I’m curious how that will work out in regards to cost and flavor.

by baswoot on Apr 17, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don’t use ammonia as a filler. They use ammonia as a cleaner of the tools and blades that cut and butcher your meat, possibly. But, rest assured, unless someone is trying to poison you or you put it there yourself, there is no ammonia in your meat. Your ground beef or hamburger meat is exactly that and nothing else, probably.

by bubbafat on Apr 18, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol he said he kicked mayhem's ass

and by kicking his ass, he meant hugging him for 15 minutes.

everything dana white says is a complete lie

by slantedwindows on Apr 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess that's why he can't knock out anybody

Only cool vegetarians I can think of are Sir Paul and some of my alt college friends. Celebrity vegetarians seem like douchebags.

Oh yeah, fuck PETA… support the ASPCA

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by Anthony Pace on Apr 17, 2010 3:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I don’t mind vegetarian campaigns like this one. It’s actually so very un-PETA like.

That said, I’m calling for Herschel Walker vs Jake Shields. Chicken man vs the Veggie lover!

by TLow on Apr 17, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

about the response i've come to expect from the mma community

glad my handiwork made it’s way to a site i respect and enjoy reading. won’t bother engaging in the debate (for a number of reasons), but thanks for posting this nick.

by woooburn on Apr 17, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

we’re in a world of 6 billion or so people. Logistically, it is not sustainable for everyone to eat 10ounces of steak per day (Mostly because of the water required to grow feed etc) Do we even need to talk about over harvesting of marine animals? The simple fact is that you are doing your fellow earth inhabitants a favor when you eat lower on the food chain. You’re under no obligation to do so other than maintaining sustainable eating habits for future generations.

by naturalist on Apr 17, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The same argument can be applied to eating organic veggies.

It takes more resources, transportation, and land to sustain the same level of production compared to non-organically grown products. You are doing a disservice to your common man by eating organic veggies.

Not taking a shot at you, but just throwing that tidbit out there.

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by pdl on Apr 17, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

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