Bellator XIV - Live Results and Commentary
by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 10:38 PM EDT
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The broadcast is live. First fight up shortly.
Pat Curran vs. Mike Ricci - Round 1 - Feeling out early and a front kick by Curran. The crowd starts to boos after a lack of action. Body kick by Ricci counters the leg kick from Curran. About two minutes in and they've just exchanged a few kicks so far with no toher real action. Ricci is using the body kicks and Curran is mixing up the leg kicks, body kicks and push kicks. Huge right hand lands for Curran and Ricci goes down hard, Curran pounces and pounds him out and it's over. Violent finish by Curran and he's moving on and the GSP protege is going home. Pat Curran wins by KO (Punch), round 1. Ricci was down and out for a few minutes after the fight but now appears to be up and okay. It looks like Ricci may have lost some teeth from the replay.
Shad Lierley vs. Wilson Reis - Round 1 - Lierley with a right hand and a jab. Right hand by Reis and he fails to get a takedown. Now they tumble to the ground but Lierley gets right back up. Right hand and a leg kick by Reis. They're exchanging big winging shots now. Reis pushing forward looking for a takedown. Shad throws a knee from the clinch, Reis catches it and slams him to the ground. Reis on top now and Lierley is trying to keep him from getting a pass. Reis pushes through to half guard now. Into full mount now and landing a few punches. Armbar attempt by Reis and Lierley uses it to escape back to his feet. Reis tries for the takedown but the good wrestling of Shad prevents it. Now a takedown by Lierley and Reis with a great sweep and he now has Shad's back. Switch to a triangle, Shad slips out and is in an armbar, now Shad spins out. Shad with a takedown and Reis with another sweep. The round ends and it was a fun one. 10-9 Reis. Round 2 - Big right hand early by Shad. Wilson pulls guard and uses it to sweep to end up on top in the guard. Pass to half guard now. Back to the feet and again Lierley lands a knee that gets caught and he is taken right back down. Again Reis uses the same half guard pass that keeps working for him. Reis landing a few knees to the body now. Reis just grinding from the half guard now. 10-9 round for Reis again. Round 3 - Left hand from Reis. Reis ducks under a right hand from Lierley and gets the takedown. Reis passes to mount and gets pulled back down into the guard. It's been a really active ground game from both men, and as I type that Reis passes to mount. Reis postures up and lands some bombs that force Shad to roll and give up his back, Reis sinks in the choke and there's the tap. Wilson Reis wins by submission (rear naked choke), round 3.
Ben Askren vs. Ryan Thomas - Round 1 - Thomas throwing jabs and straight rights early. One-two combo lands for Thomas, he tells Askren to bring it so Askren takes him down. Askren falls right into a deep triangle but manages to work his way out. Thomas going for a heel hook and Askren collapses on him into half guard. Looking for the darce now and Thomas escapes. The ref stops the fight while Thomas is in a modified neck crank. Thomas is fine, he didn't tap and he wasn't out. Why would a ref stop that fight? It was competitive and Thomas was not tapping. The ref makes a big show in front of Thomas about announcing that it was a submission. That's awful reffing, just awful, awful reffing. Ben Askren wins by submission, round 1.
Toby Imada vs. James Krause - Round 1 - Krause using the reach to land some kicks. Imada comes in winging punches and Krause kicks him back to get back to space. Takedown by Imada now and he's on top in the guard. Rubber guard attempt by Krause and then an attempted scramble but he ends up in Imada's side control. North sound now and now Imada tries to get an omoplata. Krause is on top and now stands up and drops a punch as he comes back into Imada's guard. Krause lands a few nice punches from top and a big hammerfist. Close round but 10-9 Imada on positional control. Round 2 - Takedown early by Imada into a crucifix and now Krause is up. They stand back up and Krause lands two punches before getting pushed back into the cage. Imada is on top now and Krause can't scramble out. Imada to an armbar and Krause yells "taptaptaptaptap" so the fight is over. Toby Imada wins by submission (armbar), round 2.
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I expect pics
of the first cage match to take place on the Chicago Theater stage.
Sure glad Lesnar got his shit straightened out.
Ricci time!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
w00t!
I’ve got live Bellator. No three hour delay. No fishing programs! Hopefully no commercial breaks that eat up entire rounds of fights.
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NICE
KO by Curran.
You might have to revise your take on that kid Brent.
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Hey man…that was a hell of a win.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve seen Curran fight before and he’s really aggressive and seems like he can finish when he needs to. But it was always against scrubs when he impressed. So I probably didn’t give him enough credit.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
…ooooh my
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
Think I saw some teeth fly out after the mouthpiece came out.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
another 30 minute delay for the boston broadcast
stoked for the reis fight. that guy is fun to watch.
Jesus…they’re just throwing at each other.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
so lame
this one day delay for canadians is ludicrous
This is fun
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions
That was a nice sweep
Looked like a variation on deep half guard.
great fight
been a big fan of reis since he was on one of the cbs elite xc shows. was hoping he woulda ended up in the wec when exc went down the shitter.
Reis just utterly dominated Lierley
and Shane is a tough and skilled dude.
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Shad...
made some stupid mistakes, like giving up distance to get in a slugfest in round 1. Throwing knees even though they kept getting caught and ending with his back on the mat…etc.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but some of those sweeps
from guard were probably things he’s never trained.
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reis took him down at will, i was very surprised shad was easily the bigger guy as well
by Austin Martin on Apr 15, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
Shad.
I was so worried about misspelling his last name I blew his first name.
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the bellator owner kicks ass
and he’s totally right about the tourney thing. although i love matchups by joe silva and whoever does the WEC especially
It’s really weird how they run the “main event” of every show as the second to last bout. They’re in no danger of running over. It’s got to be because some FSN affiliates cut out the last half hour.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions
Although...
I guess one could make a case that Imada is the “main event” for them given his run last year.
Who knows.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the announcer and the play by play is great.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Apr 15, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Askren grabbed a choke
and the ref stopped it because he took Thomas closing his eyes to be Thomas going to sleep. Thomas was completely awake the whole time.
Fairly competitive
Thomas was having trouble defending the TD, but he grabbed a deep triangle that had Askren in trouble and was also winning what limited standup there was.
Very competitive.
Thomas came close to finishing a triangle and had landed a nice combo standing.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea Askren was able to take him down but Thomas threw a few submissions and was able to scramble at times but it was a horrible call on an awkard neck crank/ guillotine head to Askrens body
by bigc4277 on Apr 15, 2010 9:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Man I feel bad for Thomas
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by slapjaw ackrite on Apr 15, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
HORRIBLE job. HOOORIBLE.
Thomas was in an odd choke/neck crank thing and was trying to defend and the ref just stopped it because “Thomas’ eyes closed” he was fine, no tap and he was still awake. The ref just stopped it and then made a big show of kind of rubbing it in Thomas’ face by yelling to the commission ringside “first round (looks at thomas) BY SUBMISSION”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
He had no idea what he was looking at.
I knew right away it was nothing but the ref’s explanation seems like just a lot of CYA.
Asking the ref…I like that.
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by slapjaw ackrite on Apr 15, 2010 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
“give me a sign”
he’s defending the choke. His job needs to not be to stop defending and not moving an arm to give a thumbs up or nodding. that’s awful
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
I also like how the ref said he was saving Thomas from serious damage...
yeah, a guillotine was really gonna end Thomas’s career.
the ref is saying something to him before he stopped it, but it wasn’t much time between that and the stoppage…even in slo-mo it seemed quick
plus his elbow was flexed the whole time and never went limp. awful. can’t believe askren said dislocated outside the skin four weeks ago and was able to push through
by Austin Martin on Apr 15, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
z
Imagine if Rogan got to ask Mirg or Mazz “Take me through the stoppage, what were you thinking as the fight was almost not over”
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by slapjaw ackrite on Apr 15, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
What the hell was it? I’ve heard guillotine, neck crank, D’arce, anaconda, and peruvian necktie from various sources. That must have been one funky choke.
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it was a weird choke setup that he then modified into a neck crank using his chest to bend Thomas’ neck. But I don’t see where the choke would have been.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
like...
it looked like the crank actually removed the ability to cut off blood. So it would have almost been a straight neck crank at that point. But thank god the ref was there to save his life!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
it kinda looked like what that guy did to alvarez only on the ground with a leg trapped
by Austin Martin on Apr 15, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, imagine a standing crucifix plus an arm in guillotine on someones side with a leg trapped
by Austin Martin on Apr 15, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
An arm in guillotine actually requires you to put their head under your chest
You want to lean on them. This is contrary to regular guillotines where you kind of lean away from the guy.
Ten Finger guillotines and Catch wrestling guillotines also do this. When its done wrong it ends up as a crank – just like all chokes.
It was an arm in guillotine. A very ugly one.
It looked like he was setting up a Peruvian necktie but then he pulled half guard.
i saw that too.. lotta wrestlers going for the darce or peruvian nowadyas
by Austin Martin on Apr 15, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It was weaksauce. Premature all the way.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Apr 15, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
to be honest it looked more like a guillotine/neck crank with one legged trapped
by Austin Martin on Apr 15, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a modified Coleman – Kerr neck crank
by bigc4277 on Apr 15, 2010 9:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is their a review board or panel that looks at the referees and judges? I wish i knew more about the way MMA was handled by the athletic commisions
by bigc4277 on Apr 15, 2010 9:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I love Chicago but Illinois MMA isn’t exactly a well run machine.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
True Illinois politicians make the one here in Jersey look like saints
by bigc4277 on Apr 15, 2010 9:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
IN A WEEK!
that’s insanity
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Crack is involved in that weight cut.
That’s the only way….
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War Imada…cause I dont know who the other dude is.
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Krause had a couple WEC fights, those are the only losses in his career. Other than that he has 11 wins, 9 sub 2 KO
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He looks familiar. He get his ass beat by Cerrone?
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by xFenixKnightx on Apr 15, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yessir
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahh yes...
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Apr 15, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
So pissed about the Askren fight. I just want to see the guy put some time in during a fight. I mean, he was getting pushed a bit, we’d have learned a lot more about him.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions
I missed that, which one cut from 190?
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by slapjaw ackrite on Apr 15, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions
nevermind I heard now
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by slapjaw ackrite on Apr 15, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Krause...
he took the fight on about a weeks notice and had to make a huge cut
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope he can still give a good fight, especially after that last bs call. I was really enjoying that, Ryan was obviously giving Ben a hard time with the experience advantage. Working on getting my boss into mma, and everytime I get him paying attention something shitty happens.
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by slapjaw ackrite on Apr 15, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
this guy isnt even on joe martinez’s level
by Austin Martin on Apr 15, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a Jūdōka
I want to know what a Judako is.
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how do they work?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuckin' rainbows, after it rains..
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Overall Im very impressed with the production. Good stuff.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
Yeah bummer bout that.
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by xFenixKnightx on Apr 15, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently the announcers have never heard of him, they couldnt think of another lightweight over 6’2’’
by PapaBumpants on Apr 15, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Bellator’s description of Askren/Thomas on their website:
Askren cinches a tight anaconda choke, and the fight is waved off. Thomas’ corner is claiming Thomas didn’t tap and is extremely disappointed with the ruling. Decision by the referee stands as Thomas was unresponsive to referee’s prompts.
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what a crock
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by slapjaw ackrite on Apr 15, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
BJORN IS THE SHANE MCMAHON OF MMA
It’s just like WWE!!!
Not hard to beat those 2.
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by xFenixKnightx on Apr 15, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Jimmy Smith rocks, he was on Fight Quest on Discovery or TLC or one of those channels… great show but it only made it one season.
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by Jackie Maden on Apr 15, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh 10-9 Imada
Krause really hasn’t done any damage or even attempt at it, but Imada hasn’t taken any advantage of the position
Props to Krause for stepping up
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by slapjaw ackrite on Apr 15, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
that angle they just showed of the thomas/askren debachle...
…made it seem worse than the other ones did. still a rushed stoppage though.
agreed. that made it a pretty tough call for the ref
by PapaBumpants on Apr 15, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem...
is that refs should have to have some sort of grappling background. His body language was nothing like someone who was going out.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a Japanese Necktie
You can find it on Shinya Aoki’s Super Grappling Techniques Vol 2. I can’t find a clip of the technique from Aoki’s video, but I found this other one which is almost exactly the same. The setup Aoki uses is different from what Askren did, but the final position is the same.
by Stanimus on Apr 16, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
To be clear, I have no idea if Shinya Aoki calls it the Japanese Necktie, but that is the name I have heard people using for it because it has a similar setup to the Peruvian Necktie.
God call...
the big problem is that it looked like Askren didn’t had a grip that was allowing him to choke at all, so it was turning into all neck crank.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 16, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I talked to my friend who hits this move all the time, and he said that Askren screwed up the placement of his arms a bit and let Thomas’ head pop out to the side to much. Otherwise, he says, it is a really, really fast choke.
In fact, here he is submitting someone at a pankration tournament last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKFZZdAWp7Y
They have to get off FSN. What I’ve seen of the two shows this season, I’ve really enjoyed but this is the second week in a row the show was moved back time wise for baseball. Tonight was Minor League Baseball. And when the show finally began at 10:30 PST, they joined it in-progress. Because they had to get it off air in time for more Baseball talk.
By the time the show began, my interest in it had pretty much evaporated.
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