Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: Roger Huerta Rolls Chad Hinton in Bellator Debut
If a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, did it really happen? If a great fight happens and no one sees it, did it really happen?
That's the dilemma facing former UFC star Roger Huerta as he fights for the much lower profile Bellator promotion. His first fight last Thursday against Chat Hinton was supposed to air live on the Fox Sports Network, and it did it some areas. Sadly, my FSN channel chose to air a hockey game instead and when it did finally schedule the fights for 11pm, it didn't actually start showing them until 12:30 or so and started with the decision in the Joe Warren fight.
And then during the Huerta fight they took a long commercial break and cut off the entire third round of action. Pretty frustrating for a fight fan. Fortunately Bellator has an enlightened policy about using the internet to raise awareness of their fights and fighters so it's easy to see the fights online. And I'm glad I did because Roger Huerta pulled off a pretty nifty move to win the fight.
Here's how Mike Chiappetta described the move:
The end came at 56 seconds of the round after a spectacular, athletic move by Huerta. Hinton had Huerta's back in a standing position. Huerta did a forward roll, taking Hinton with him, and he ended up on top of Hinton's chest. Huerta grabbed Hinton's free leg and applied a kneebar for the finish.
"The leg was there," said Huerta, who improved to 21-3-1. "I was trying to finish by TKO, ground and pound. I had to take the leg. This guy wasn't going to give up. He's really tough."
Like most of Huerta's fights it is notable not so much for the formal polish of his technique, but rather the incredible athleticism and improvisation that went into it.
Let's look at some gifs in the full entry plus videos of the whole fight (Bellator "gets" the internets!).
Gifs by Chris Nelson.
On the right we see the roll. First up, it's important to note that Huerta is NOT doing a variation on the judo/sambo rolling knee bar. I talked about that move in an earlier Judo Chop when Chris Lytle did it at UFC 110. This is very different. Where Lytle dove for his opponent's ankle and isolated that leg between both of his legs, Huerta grabs both of Hinton's wrists, steps forward, rolls and then uses his left foot to push off Hinton's hips and drive Hinton all the way over onto his back.
I'd love to know if this is something that Huerta has worked on or if it's just something he improvised on the spot. Either way, it's a very effective escape from an opponent who has his wrists locked around your waist.
On the left we see the genesis of the knee bar. It's only eight seconds after the last gif and Hinton has already rolled over and is driving for a single leg take down with his left arm wrapped behind Huerta's right knee. That's when Huerta grabs Hinton's left leg with both arms, reaching through Hinton's crotch with the left and behind the knee with the right.
I've written about the switch before, it's a classic wrestling move. Huerta is using more brute strength than leverage here to flip Hinton onto his side and from there onto his back. Incredible performance from Huerta.
On the right we see the finale. Note the time -- almost 15 seconds have passed. Huerta spent almost all of that interval looking for Hinton's leg while he rained down shots. He kept his left arm hooked around Hinton's calf the whole time. He was really set on getting that knee bar. Here we see him lean back to fire a hammerfist to Hinton's skull and then dropping his right hand to the mat to post up as he steps his left leg forward to isolate Hinton's leg between his legs. From there it's pretty much a formality to get the tap.
If you want to review the basics of the knee bar, read my earlier Judo Chop from UFC 110.
Fundamentally, the moves Huerta pulled off in this fight are not things that can be taught. They hinge on the very rare combination of power and agility that Huerta brings into the cage. Regardless, it's a treat to watch and well worth studying closely.
Here's the fight:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
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That really was a good fight
I’m currently trying to get my roommates into MMA, and this is one of the first fights we watched together as a house. Thank god Huerta always delivers exciting fights; this went a long way to making fans out of them.
Soon we might even be able to get PPVs…
yeah Huerta
is a money acquisition for Bellator. I think Maynard and Florian showed fairly definitively that Roger won’t ever be #1 in the world but he remains a hugely exciting fighter.
I think he’s got an excellent chance to win this tournament and his fight with Alvarez will be a very important bench mark of where the UFC lightweight pool stands compared to the DREAM pool.
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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 15, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Winning this tournament would be a great skill builder. I’m not sold that he can’t be #1 some day if he stays active and have difficult fights. Look at guys like Bas Rutten, fighting a lot of fights is a great way to get good.
watching bellator online
I noticed you mentioned you can watch the fights online can you direct me please kind sir?
by Dr Tyronious on Apr 15, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
where is jorge gurgel?
as much as i rip on the dude i think he’d be perfect for bellator. got skills and always (to his detriment more often than not) tries to put on a good show.
They had the Sox game on in the Chicago area.
Delayed it by 3 hours. They need to get on a better channel.
by HappyLittleTreez on Apr 15, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions
couldn't agree more.
but i’m very excited that my FSN channel appears to be showing it live tonight.
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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 15, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
they did lst week too but due to delays they skipped most of the fights and showed athirty minute fishing show
right in the middle of when the fight was supposed to be broadcast, the Huerta fight showed the first two rounds then went to commercial and came back at the decision. I was really excited to see bellator on TV but if the next broadcast is anything like last week i’ll skip it
by doonerthesooner on Apr 15, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that was pretty maddening
that’s what they did in my region too but at 11pm.
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I’m just south of Chicago, I had no problem with Dish Netorks FSN on 418 – I watched the whole card…what provider did you have an issue with?
by justbleed9999 on Apr 15, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, I have Comcast. I don’t even think we have FSN. They were showing it on Comcast’s own sports channel I believe, CSN.
by HappyLittleTreez on Apr 15, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Huerta is awesome
Thanks for posting the links to the fight, I wasn’t aware Bellator put them out there like that.
Bellator is very understanding...
of the need for people to see their fights.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I was excited to watch this fight
but it didnt show on my fsn unfortunately, dallas stars went into ot and modano was retiring but tonights show hopefully will air live as it says. This is the type of article i love to see, educational, informative, and well-written
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All the fights were great last week…can’t wait for fights tonight!
by justbleed9999 on Apr 15, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I was one of the lucky few to see it live.
It was a great fight. Huerta got caught once or twice, but he kept his composure pretty well. He’s got an unorthodox way of fighting and it’s really exciting to see in the lightweight division.
On the right we see the roll. First up, it’s important to note that Huerta is NOT doing a variation on the judo/sambo rolling knee bar. I talked about that move in an earlier Judo Chop when Chris Lytle did it at UFC 110. This is very different. Where Lytle dove for his opponent’s ankle and isolated that leg between both of his legs, Huerta grabs both of Hinton’s wrists, steps forward, rolls and then uses his left foot to push off Hinton’s hips and drive Hinton all the way over onto his back.
Accurate, this is a great way to lose a rear body lock; it’s high risk because if the opponent maintains the lock they can switch their hips over and come up on top in sidecontrol/halfguard/guard. Huerta used the hip push once they flipped in order to maintain distance and make sure that didn’t happen; either great presence of mind or just great luck.
On the left we see the genesis of the knee bar. It’s only eight seconds after the last gif and Hinton has already rolled over and is driving for a single leg take down with his left arm wrapped behind Huerta’s right knee. That’s when Huerta grabs Hinton’s left leg with both arms, reaching through Hinton’s crotch with the left and behind the knee with the right.
This GIF is where Hinton went full retard, he’s driving for the single off his knees but his body is positioned incorrectly, it would have been positioned correctly if he was grabbing the OTHER leg. When executing the single off the knees you want to get the leg and then position your body perpendicular with your shoulder/head on the inside against your opponents stomach/lowerabs, Hinton is reaching for the far leg and pushing his body across which leaves him open for the forced switch.
Huerta definitely just brute forces that leg grab in order to collapse Hinton off his knees, off of that he’s grabbing the leg and then…
On the right we see the finale. Note the time — almost 15 seconds have passed. Huerta spent almost all of that interval looking for Hinton’s leg while he rained down shots. He kept his left arm hooked around Hinton’s calf the whole time. He was really set on getting that knee bar. Here we see him lean back to fire a hammerfist to Hinton’s skull and then dropping his right hand to the mat to post up as he steps his left leg forward to isolate Hinton’s leg between his legs. From there it’s pretty much a formality to get the tap.
Huerta isn’t immediately thinking kneebar in my opinion, for the first few seconds he’s holding the leg so he can keep Hinton from using it to bridge up or move over (which could make Hinton take Huerta’s back or reverse into a dominant position). Once that leg gets higher and Huerta isolates the Achilles area of the leg with his left arm that’s when he swings the outside leg over, gable grips his hands and drops flat for the kneebar, his legs are positioned correctly against Hinton’s butt and then a text book kneebar is applied.
I’d argue against Huerta pulling off things that can’t be taught, what he did was very technical but the brute force and agility certainly didn’t hurt.
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by Patrick Tenney on Apr 15, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 16 recs
damn
I got to get you making posts!
Next time I might have to email you BEFORE I finish the post.
thanks again.
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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 15, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
let's rec his post green please
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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 15, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I really love it when a Judo Chop plays out like this.
It’s awesome to get your knowledgeable, but self-taught perspective and then get the grappler’s perspective from AboveThisFire after. So, then I get how I saw and remember a technique from watching it live, your analysis, and a little refinement.
Anyways, nicely done as always, both of you.
You're great man...
I really love when you bring your grappling thoughts to the party.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I read that as “I really love when you wear your grappling pants to the party”, I don’t know why I read it that way but it almost made me spit protein shake all over my keyboard.
Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.
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by Patrick Tenney on Apr 15, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Well…whatever works for you.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 15, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You sure do know lots bout this here grapplin'.
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by Rundownloser on Apr 15, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Long time no post.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 16, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Nate you're a genius
Your tactics are masterful.
But I digress, I loved this fight. This is probably one of my favorite techniques to date. Like you said, there are some things that you just can’t teach.
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nate doing a judo chop on a legbar instead of the dance moves anderson used on Saturday?
More proof you hate the ufc. LOL
Great job! Thanks for posting the fight. I would have missed it otherwise.
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by Rayce. on Apr 15, 2010 12:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if I had more time
I’d actually like to do a judo chop on Anderson’s antics. Greg Jackson is right, he’s doing some amazing stuff. Sadly by not looking for the finish and gassing he’s not fighting right.
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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 15, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i am in the minority i am sure but
I feel there was no opportunity for Anderson to finish. That’s why he tried to goaded Maia into a firefight with insults. Maia wouldn’t fall for it. Then the dance-a-thon started after Anderson had an adrenaline dump and gassed. Imo
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by Rayce. on Apr 15, 2010 12:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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I’m in southern Illinois and watched the whole card on Dish Network with no problem…
I love Thursday nights with Bellator!
Where at in Southern Illinois?
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by Leland Roling on Apr 15, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
huerta is the man
him leaving the UFC is an awesome thing for the fans. we’ll get to see him in exciting matchups for free for 2 months straight. can’t ask for much more.
bellator quickly joining WEC as my fav orgs.
i disagree, the WEC is definitely putting their best foot forward with the PPV and if it doesnt go well they have zuffa ownership to fall back on. Bellator is fast rising but can’t truly make a name with guys who all have losing records in the WEC. They’ll have extremely fun, exciting fights, but with the exception of huerta and alvarez they have fighters who are far down the totem pole
by Austin Martin on Apr 15, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
he did go for the exact roll that lytle used...
I dont know why you would compare it to lytle’s roll and say it wasnt the same thing. It was the exact same roll but one thing was different lytle hit the technique perfect.. while huerta only got a scramble to ensue..
you should use this fight to show the point of how good huerta is at scrambling and or defensive mma wrestling. instead your kinda pointing to huerta training alternative techniques or having the surreal ability to actually improvise real technique that has been honed for many years.
i really think its too obvious the reason his opponent was finished in that position was lack of knowledge and being overwelmed more than huerta’s off the cuff brilliance or accumulated grappling knowledge.
Yes it was.. what technique was he going for then?
from the back there are two primary rolling techniques a knee bar or a over/under escape w// hooks in. either way you need to grab the foot/leg Think about it .. if huerta wanted him off his back .. he would sat his hips down and done a switch to turn around. (wrestling move) .
Instead he dove for his opponnents right leg(you can see him adjust the position for it w/ the legs) . He then goes to grab his opponnents leg that is inbetween his w/ his right arm (which is the wrong arm to use in this instance. you can tell he doesnt even try to grab anythign with his left when he initiates the roll.
So huerta went for the knee bar but used sloppy technique and his opponent hung on tight to his legs… this is what made it look like anything but sloppy technique.
If you notice above the fires verbage He states that if “he was going for the roll he abandoned it”. that means abovethefire atleast realizes its possible that huerta was going for a kneebar but had to scramble. He then says the reason he doesnt think it was a kneebar was because it didnt look like he went to grab anything. I say its because he was going for the wrong leg.
you can look at this however you want.. but huerta got lucky his opponent didnt know what to do .
im not trying to be stubborn but I feel im more helping you understand grappling and the techniques we watch. its complicated and there are at least 5 names for every move. but we tend to overcomplicate things and think what looks like a very amazing or intricate move is really just a few basic concepts linked.
Check the roll, if he was going for the leg he abandoned that idea instantly because he dives his arms under so he can hip up once the roll ends. He’s just hitting a forward roll and then blocking the counter using his legs. Huerta’s got technique, he’s not really improvising, but he is using technique.
You could say that almost any opponent that’s finished is finished because of lack of knowledge or being overwhelmed in an area of the fight, that’s how fighting works, it’s not Huerta’s fault he’s able to exploit openings and execute techniques.
Seriously though, he didn’t roll for the kneebar in my opinion, he didn’t even attempt to reach the leg with his left arm and that’s kinda what signals that to me.
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by Patrick Tenney on Apr 15, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
let me just say. please start doing something similar to judo chops. PLEASE. you can your series “Joe Rogan’s Kimura Fetish” or something. I know that i speak for many people, mods included.
by Austin Martin on Apr 15, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Watching the fight, I was amazed
at the series of moves Huerta had to go thru leading to the knee bar. This judo chop made more amazing.
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Huerta being in Bellator is huge . Huerta is one of my favorite fighters, guy fights like a damn man.
It will be nice to see how Huerta fares against the top guys outside of the UFC. Could give us some direct comparison on how the outside UFC guys fare if they did come here.
I would say Huerta is about a fringe top ten guy or borderline top ten. He definitley comes out to fight has serious heart and has some solid skills.
So this is a legit UFC fighter, not cream of the crop but definitley a solid solid guy. Are we going to get to see Huerta Alvarez I don’t understand. That’s really the only fight I want to watch Huerta in right now regardless of how much I like him. I don;t like him enough to watch him beat up subpar talent but maybe that;s just me.
Huerta Alvarez/ What has to happent to make this go down?
huerta
has to win two more fights.
and hopefully Alvarez will beat Josh Neer without getting injured.
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That roll is a little like Soto Makikomi: http://judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/sotomakikomi.htm
It only works if the opponent reacts the right way. Had Hinton let go, Huerta would have rolled in the air and ended up on bottom. On the other hand, if Hinton had a stronger grip, he would have rolled with Huerta and stayed behind him.

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