Dana White Announces Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen
by Nick Thomas on Apr 14, 2010 6:28 PM EDT
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PrintOn ESPN's "Jim Rome is Burning": (transcribed by mmaweekly.com)
"He's got a real tough fight coming up. His next fight's going to be against Chael Sonnen, and Chael Sonnen's one of these guys who's not going to lay back, not do what these other guys (did)," White told Rome.
"When he's been in this position when these types of fights have happened, it's been against real good jiu-jitsu guys, guys that want to get the fight to the ground. Well, Chael Sonnen's going to want to take this fight to the ground, but he's going to double leg him and bring him down," said White.
"Personally, I really believe that he was embarrassed by what happened that night, maybe he did have a mental breakdown, I don't know what happened in the ring. All I can say is I know his next opponent isn't going to be a guy who's going to lay back and let him do stuff like that."
"If he ever acts like that again in the ring, I will cut him," said the UFC president. "I don't care if he's the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. I don't care if he is the middleweight champion. I will cut him, absolutely."
UPDATE (by Scott Haber): MMA Junkie reports that Silva vs. Sonnen will likely headline an August 7th event in Salt Lake City, Utah:
Additional sources close to the promotion informed MMAjunkie.com that the UFC is eyeing EnergySolutions Arena, home of the NBA's Utah Jazz, as a potential host venue for the event.
Bill Colbert, Director of the Pete Suazo Utah Athletic Commission, told MMAjunkie.com that nothing is yet set in stone, but he acknowledged that he has been in discussion with the UFC.
HT: mmaweekly.com, H8ff0000, POOCH!!
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Damn I hop Chael's mouth is ready
he is going to have a long time to talk shit.
Yes! Atleast 4 months of great shit talking!
by DayGeaux on Apr 14, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
This.
I blog at Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.
by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
he's one of the first mainstream to talk about MMA
I give him props for that, and he gives serious interviews i.e. he doesn’t throw softballs
by kibbled_bits on Apr 14, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonnen looks brilliant now
For the shit talking that he did, this is really a perfect setup for his fight against AS
by kibbled_bits on Apr 14, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta love how rome is the only one at espn that covers mma
hes kinda a douchebag but still a very credible reporter with a good show
MMA Live will on air May 6th right?
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 14, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
on espn2 once a week
they show world series of poker reruns more often
i stand by my comment
He's a love him/hate him kinda guy
I dont know why that is though.. He easily has the best show on ESPN. Rome calls it like he sees it and is pretty unbiased.
I think most people that dislike him do so because of his voice/the way he talks
his voice and attitude are kinda douchey
along with that whole WHAT IS UP thing he does to start show
but that aside his show is by far the best on espn his interviews are excellent and he consistently has great guests on the show
its a so-cal thing, nowhere near as annoying as Faber tho
by kibbled_bits on Apr 14, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Santa Barbara is about 2-4 hours north west of LA. It’s considered the Central Coast. It’s not very similar geographically/demographically/culturally to LA or San Diego
People from there would probably be offended if you referred to is as SoCal, too. ;)
yea perhaps BUT...
I could see how they would be offended though. Im from visalia (tulare county) and IM offended we’re included on this map lmao
Please, please, please don’t have this be the main event. This has snoozer written all over it.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 5:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
with all the smack talk Chael will be bringing to the table
how could this not be the main event?
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I highly doubt Dana will put anymore eggs in Anderson Silva’s basket. After the Cote, Lietes and Maia fights it’s going to take more of an opponent than Chael to get me to pay for this fight as a main event.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 6:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you might not pay for it, but you will watch it…
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
by Orcus on Apr 14, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dunno, YOU may pay for it, but will the casual fan that feels like they got robbed (of a good show) in the last Anderson Silva fight? Will he know that Sonnen is definitely going to bring it? I’m not so sure.
Sonnen
will sell that fight like crazy, and the casuals will buy (it’s not going to be a huge PPV, but I don’t think it will be anything less than he already sales, I’m sure it will actually be better than he already sales).
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Casuals don’t care about Silva. If he fights again and its a big fight they will watch. Silva does not effect their life like ours and hell they probably don’t even think it was that bad.
That Bruce Lee guy was dancing around alot but for a while he was pure fucking awesomeness. He’s fighting again ok I would like to check out said awesomeness.
I was at a bar for 112 and trust me, they thought it was that bad.
by Polyhedron on Apr 14, 2010 6:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Talked to a bunch of casuals at work, a guy who watches a ton “Anderson just ran from him the whole fight and looked out of shape”
Didn’t make a good impression
casuals? and watches a Ton?
Meh, whatever… he will watch… mark my words, he will
by kibbled_bits on Apr 14, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I will watch the show. I will not watch Anderson Silva fight Sonnen. Sonnen is trying to make himself more relative by opening his mouth, that doesn’t make it a good fight. I can see better fights daily in my gym during sparring sessions.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 6:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You should probably tape those and sell them on PPV, then.
And I have a moral obligation to society to beat him up. He is a dirtbag anyway, whether he went out there and shook hands and was gracious or he didn't. Who cares? I don't know why sportsmanship needs to be involved, anyways. It's a fight - go do whatever you want. So, yes, I will do whatever I want. And when my music hits those speakers, I will make that walk and answer for my words
-Chael Sonnen on Anderson Silva
by frosnt1 on Apr 14, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
what do you mean? You’ll watch the UFC but when it gets to the Anderson fight you’ll turn it off? I find that hard to believe.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I don’t give a shit what you think I’ll do. I’m a man of my word. I will not buy any PPV with Silva headlining and I will not watch another one of his fights against mediocre competition. Anyone can talk tough like Sonnen does, at the end of the day that talk means absolutely nothing. I can’t wait until after this fight because Its gonna be the exact same reaction as people had to Silva vs Maia.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 9:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s exactly what I mean. I have zero interest in watching him fight. Especially against Sonnen. I’ll go make the beer run, let out my dog, take a shit…any of these things are more exciting. Maybe I’ll watch a replay of Hughes Vs Gracie from 112 during Anderson’s fight. Way more entertaining.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 9:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Taking a shit is awesome.
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Apr 14, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as it’s not a whiskey squirter!
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 15, 2010 2:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You must have some sparring sessions at your Gym ? Thats a hell of a Gym where world class Wrestlers like Chael go up agsint Elite strikers like Silva every day.
I train at champions in Bettendorf Iowa. Enough said.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 9:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
bring on the continued counting-out of Chael. counted out against Okami, counted out against Marquardt. this is a man who elevates his game when it needs elevatin’
You know
He has lost before. I counted him out against Fihlo the first time and Maia, and I was right.
andersons gonna kill sonnen inside one round
if he wants credible opponents the only place for him is the UFC, SF and dream have nothing to offer him
i think danas completely serious by saying hed fire silva, hes already ruined 3 main events and is gonna be on the wrong side of 35 pretty damn soon as good as he is he isnt necessary for the UFCs success
by milk72 on Apr 14, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Well
Strikeforce does have Mousassi, Henderson, and Fedor. That’s not even counting Jacare because I don’t think anybody wants to see Anderson fight another one dimensional BJJ ace.
they were also training together a while ago
not sure if they would fight.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Five names from Strikeforce I’d be interested in seeing against Silva:
1. Fedor
2. Mousasi
3. Hendo
4. Overeem
5. King Mo in another year.
I would take out Overeem and Mo and put in Lawler and Melvin.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
I want the MT plumb in full effect.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Those leg kicks were spectacular
I remember one of them bouncing his foot off the top of the cage. The top.
excellent body lock takedown by the ref.
by TLow on Apr 14, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd only be interested in Overeem
If he got buy the first three first. Then it would be hilarious to see a middleweight beat a megalodon.
doesn't Overeem fight at like 240?
and AS walks around at 225 when he wants to?
by blueballlefty on Apr 14, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson is a very round 225
And Overeem is a lean muscle monster. And I believe he’s up to around 255.
220 when he’s fat. Ubereem is 255 with 5% body fat .
by dancingChicken on Apr 14, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I like those
not crazy about the last two, but the first three is good enough
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I would give him the Hendo treatment.
First fight against Hendo for MW belt (does anyone really give Shields much of a chance?)
If he wins his second fight is against Mousasi for the LHW belt
If he beats Mousasi its Anderson vs Fedor.
After that I don’t really care. Manhoef, Lawler, Overeem, Roger, King Mo, etc. Maybe go back and give him rematches against Fedor or Mousasi, depending on how good the first fight was.
can you imagine that
take a belt all the way from MW to HW, all in three fights? that would be legendary.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I think I'm dreaming:)
People getting excited about Spider:)
by dancingChicken on Apr 14, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
seriously, the hate comments on him are growing weaker with each day that passes, within a week I think it will be minimal, and by fight time people are going to be back on his bandwagon.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
It’s not that the hate for Anderson is getting weaker, it’s that people are moving on with their lives because the fight happened days ago. If you think that means people have forgiven or forgotten i’ve got a bridge to sell you.
I do actually
I think by fight night people will watch this fight, all the people who said they’ll not buy another card with Anderson on it… I don’t think they’ll stand by what they said.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
What about all of the people who have already not been buying AS fights? Least popular champion in UFC by far, and UFC has had to carry him with fan favorites like Penn or Liddell to get anything sold.
I'm sure they'll pair him up with fan favorites this time too
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
That kinda proves my point, doesn’t it? The card would sell spectacularly low if Anderson was headlining without actual fan favorites.
what point? my point is that people will watch it, you know, including all the ones who have said they wouldn’t buy another card with him on it? I’m sure they will buy it, and watch it.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I’m sure all of those people who pay for Anderson Silva cards are the reason why he isn’t the worst draw out of all of the champions… OH WAIT.
well
if you’re going to resort to strawman arguments I’m not really going to debate you.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
do you know what a strawman argument is?
You’re saying people who don’t buy Anderson Silva cards are going to buy them now because they hate him.
I’m pretty sure they’ve always hated him, which is why they don’t buy his cards.
You refuse to see any of the negative consequences that come with acting like a douchebag, I’m not sure why though. Is Anderson your cousin or something?
do you know what a strawman argument is?
yes, do you?
You’re saying people who don’t buy Anderson Silva cards are going to buy them now because they hate him.
no, I said people who said they wouldn’t buy another card with him on it will buy it still.
I’m pretty sure they’ve always hated him, which is why they don’t buy his cards.
no, I said people who said they wouldn’t buy another card with him on it will buy it still. funny how the same answer applies……….
You refuse to see any of the negative consequences that come with acting like a douchebag, I’m not sure why though. Is Anderson your cousin or something?
you refuse to see any positives.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
A straw man argument would have been if I said “people from Vermont love cheese and this is why Anderson Silva sucks”. Saying that Anderson Silva is the worst draw out of all of the champions is not a strawman argument.
Ok, so people who say they don’t buy AS cards actually do buy them, they just lie about it because… why?
You’re completely and totally biased, just listen to yourself. “AS is so good that people will lie about buying his cards”.
There are no positives to being a douchebag unless your motivation is to get fired so you can make more money elsewhere.
no, you don't know what a strawman is.
A strawman is trying to prove something to which I am not arguing, ie AS is the worst draw… That’s not what I’m debating. and now I’m done :p
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I’m not trying to prove anything, it’s a fact that Anderson is the worst draw out of all of the champs. So how exactly is that a strawman and not a key point as to why people will not buy his cards?
that's fine
think what you want, I’m wrong :p bye bye
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
People will watch it, sure, but you’re crazy if you think that your average fan who paid for UFC 112 is going to pay for whatever card Anderson is on next if it’s the main event. As this other poster pointed out, he was already the least popular champ by far.
Do you think his latest performance did anything to change that?
I’m sure there are some other people like you, but the point people are arguing is that Silva was never a big draw in the first place, and you’ve gotta be sure that the last few performances have hurt his drawing power even more.
UFC will be able to compensate for that of course, they’re in this to make money, but they’re going to have to work a lot harder on the next fight than they did the last fight. AS is just basically costing himself money.
I imagine it might get to a point that if I’m Penn, I don’t want to be on the next AS PPV because I’m hurting MY paycheck by carrying around a guy that is notorious for bad performances.
If Silva joined Strikeforce and his first fight was Hendo I would be appalled. You make Fedor Silva if it is an option. Its not even an option regardless of who Fedor is booked to fight. You drop Fedor’s opponent and tell Fedor to get ready for the Spider. Pretty damn simple to me.
And this includes Overeem. If Fedor Overeem is set up for next month and Silva was released today. Strikeforce would have to be stupid not to cancel that fight and replace it with Silva Fedor. its that big of a fight.
Seriously though
Strikeforce could then market (if they learn HOW to market) the TWO best fighters of our time.
Dana needs to find his happy place and calm down.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I really wonder
if the Fertittas would allow him to get rid of Anderson if he really wanted to. I don’t think they would.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I didn’t consider the Fertitta veto. I’m sure you’re right about that.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks to Dana I now what Silva to go out and act like the biggest asshole ever just to see if he’ll go through with it.
by John Nash on Apr 14, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
That’s EXACTLY what’s going through my head right now.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
me too man
and I’m almost certain he will, just to call his bluff
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
That's the thing
I don’t think Dana gets it… Silva has CLEARLY shown to not give one shit about making Dana happy, regardless of what he says in interviews. It’s like he goes out of his way to irritate Dana at this point.
It’s like Dana is poking a giant.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
he’s adding more fuel to the fire. I can just imagine AS going like “he said what? Ok then, I’ll show him”. AS doesn’t really care, and he’ll take this as an insult.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
whatever it is
I’m sure he didn’t have the same attitude that he had on the PC. Soares said he just stated his concerns, and Anderson his, and that was that.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Hopefully Silva doesn’t get to insulted or he will Dance Dance Revolution at him for 15 mins :p
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If Silva really wanted to piss Dana off
He’d so up in St. Louis this weekend, sitting cageside with Fedor watching Mousasi’s and Hendo’s fights.
They were training together for Maia.
by dancingChicken on Apr 14, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think a fight with Jacare would go anywhere close to that same way. I don’t think Jacare and Anderson would fight though.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Point is
There are plenty of fights for Anderson outside of the UFC. If the UFC releases Anderson, the UFC are the ones who get punished.
Silva needs the UFC alot more then the UFC needs him . And I don’t think CBS would take the risk of putting him on a CBS show.
So CBS would balk at the
best P4P fighter in the world fighting on one off their cards? not to mention a fighter that the UFC has spent millions promoting for the last 5+ years
by blueballlefty on Apr 15, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Who the fack wants to see Jacare Silva? Certainly not me. I really don’t see how you can see beyong Mousassi and Fedor fights . After those fights the whole landscape might be changed. We might be in another world in another time via wormhole or some shit. thats way too far in the future to even speculate for me.
I think its pretty stupid to say “who the fack wants to see jacare/silva?” . Majority of hardcore fans do.
I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand
Jesus Im getting nitpicked out here today huh,
No one gives a fack haha in regards to Fedor and Mousassi being avaliable.
Have you lost your freaking mind
no credible opponents???
Fedor?
Gegard v king mo winner?
Hendo v Shields winner?
Nate DIaz?
Cung Lee after a win or two?
If Silva wanted to fight at heavyweight
Overeem?
I think Strikeforce actually has more exciting fights to offer him with a bunch of 230-250lb heavyweights.
There is NO WAY Dana is allowed to cut AS the Ferttitas would have his ass first.
by blueballlefty on Apr 14, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea Ferritas would fire Dana before he could that. They would literally buy and sell Dana for even attempting that. Dana needs to learn how to be a fucking boss. He’s like a little school boy complaining about every little thing with his constant bickering with his employees. He should shut the fuck up sometimes. I know he’s a fight fan but he knows how to balance the promoter side of him pretty well. He needs to learn how to have balance and be a real boss as well.
dana would get cut
an hope to get signed by strikeforce lol
have u ever even been in a fight??
by MMAJUNKIE__83 on Apr 14, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention a HUGE
pay per view boxing or kickboxing match between him and Roy Jones Jr. that SF could promote/co-promote
by blueballlefty on Apr 14, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Boxing fans don’t care about Roy Jones. Not too many casual MMA fans even care about Silva. I don’t see the point in that fight. Surely the Fedor fight would be the first fight considered.
Boxing fans don’t care about Roy Jones
W.T.F.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you have the PPV numbers for Hopkins Jones? I would love to see them. Perhaps I should have said casuals mainly as they certainly don’t give a fuck about Jones. I don’t think boxing fans care about Jones either. He’s done man.
People still watch him. People care because he was the best and, maybe, the best ever. Do as many watch now? No, of course not. But to say people don’t care or don’t watch is silly.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it would probably be up to Anderson
and RJJ and the Spider would sell a lot of ppv’s it would be billed as MMA vs. Boxing and with the right promotion could be part of a big mixed boxing/mma card
by blueballlefty on Apr 14, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
But why would you even consider that when you have the biggest MMA match waiting in the wings? And on national television as well.
ok I think AS would do Fedor first
but only if you promise him a RJJ fight
by blueballlefty on Apr 14, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones Jr vs Silva will not be a huge PPV after the lackluster performance both recently had.
I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand
Yea Ferritas would fire Dana before he could that. They would literally buy and sell Dana for even attempting that. Dana needs to learn how to be a fucking boss. He’s like a little school boy complaining about every little thing with his constant bickering with his employees. He should shut the fuck up sometimes. I know he’s a fight fan but he knows how to balance the promoter side of him pretty well. He needs to learn how to have balance and be a real boss as well.
by p123 on Apr 14, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He seriously needs to learn how to behave like a public face of a company, you dont see someone like Steve Jobs go apeshit on Twitter.
by Zangief on Apr 14, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i jumped the gun in saying credible opponents
but the ufc has better fighters to offer him than SF and dream do and way way way more money, we all know silvas not a draw and frankly if he pulls another dance fest against sonnen he will be more universally hated than any figure in sports that comes to mind
the most important part of what i said is that silvas gonna be on the wrong side of 35 very very soon his reign of being the most dominant asshole in mma is numbered he IS expendable and not vital to the UFCs future success, the good thing about the UFC is that one fighter doesnt make the organization
What better fighters that he hasn’t already beat? Who is better than Fedor in the UFC for him to fight?
You’re right, he has a finite window left to fight in. He is better served fighting megafights than Maias and Sonnens.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I do believe overall UFC has a MUCH MUCH better roster
but there is not much to challenge AS at 185 besides Vitor, and I think Dana knows this and thats why he is buying time before he has to put that fight on. Chael is going to talk a lot of smack and get everybody thinking he has a chance and the get KTFO’d or tapped just like Hendo. I think SF has more exciting fights for AS overall
by blueballlefty on Apr 14, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Why the fuck aren’t we getting Vitor? At least that has fireworks written all over it. WTF Dana you said this shit is for the fans. We want to see Silva’s striking tested to the max. That is what we want to see. We want to see someone who actually has a puncher’s chance on Silva. Someone if hit cleanly could knock Silva’s head clear off and has the speed comparable to him. If you are going to make any MW fight it is beyond me that you would not make that fight. Hell you even had that fight set up previously. You thought it was a good fight before and re selling that fight would be as easy as pie. WTF man!
The reason is...
….. Vitor is the only quality MW fighter left to fight AS. This way Sonnen will talk a bunch of smack and sell some ppv’s and then a bunch of people will watch AS knock off Sonnen’s head. Then 6 months later he will fight Vitor, and then 6 months later maybe somebody like Jon Jones will be ready this buys Dana a year to find a second decent match up for AS. If Dana gave a shit about the fan he would be putting on MEGA fights like AS vs. GSP and AS vs. Rampage and AS vs. Carwin, Lesnar. this is good marketing by Dana but he doesn’t give a shit about the fans
by blueballlefty on Apr 14, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea what happened to Dana say he will make it up to the FANS. The FANS don’t want this. If it’s at 185 we want Vitor. If not we want GSP . If not that then we want Rampage.
Go to the Vitor thread and watch a bunch of people state Vitor isn’t qualified to challenge for the 185 belt because he has no fights in UFC at 185.
Also, the day that Vitor got hurt, so many fans were asking Dana White for Chael Sonnen on Twitter that Sonnen became a trending topic in the US. Sounds like the fans want Sonnen.
Shit KOing Rich Franklin is enough for me. Some people are never satisfied though. Also its more about the stylistic thing to me .
Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to see that fight too, but I’m equally interested in the Sonnen fight. Sonnen provides an interesting challenge, which is a wrestler who isn’t afraid to use positional control and wear AS down. I’d like to see if he can do it.
Me2. I have always thought that wtf man throw all the fucking wrestlers at Silva. He hasn’t faced a true wrestler since Hendo and Hendo was able to hold him down for a round. If we got a wrestler who stuck to the gameplan and actually had a little GNP hmm that would make sense.
But I am very aware of this new Anderson. I like to call his Anderson 3.0. This Machida esque range he uses now is big fucking problems for everybody. He has essentially removed his kryptonite ( Takedown Defense ) and the only way I can possibly see anyone taking him down is through extremely difficult measures while encountering the Spider.
The only way I can see anyone taking Silva down right now is if they use the GSP style engage and shoot type of thing.
The problem is to close the distance you actually have to engage. You have to engage in a way that makes him feel threatened by your striking so you can get an oppurtunity to shoot in seeing that he is always moving backwards.
Having to engage with Anderson 3.0 is no easy task..
So I have changed my opinion on what is needed to beat Silva and I have gone moreso the striker route.
However I will be interested to see if Anderson is actually capable of what I am estimating his skills to be. I can’t see 100 percent how that is going to go against a top level olympic wrestler. If Sonnen can’t do it no one can without engaging first thats for sure. We shall see it seems.
185 is a weird division in MMA. It doesn’t have the wrestling talent that most divisions have. I think most of the taller guys are bulky enough that they end up at 205 (which is a much more popular division) and the shorter guys are small enough to make 170 (again, much more popular division).
You notice lots of 185ers move up or down too, just because the division has never had much action. It went from Baroni to Lindland to Franklin, who was probably the biggest favorite in the division….but even Franklin has never been hugely popular like some other guys.
I would go into Sonnen-Silva like I went into Edgar-Penn….“I think the champ is gonna win, but I hope the challenger takes it!”. I think Sonnen has a real chance and I can envision him basically treating Silva just like he did Marquardt.
Nobody says you do, but what’s happening is the UFC is giving the fight that the majority of fans want to see.
Most everyone I know doesn’t like seeing guys holding belts hostage and running around in other divisions. We didn’t like it when Penn did it, and we don’t like it when Anderson does it. You defend your belt, or you give it up.
Anderson needs to look at guys like Fedor or GSP. Both guys have been completely dominating opposition for years, but they don’t get into the ring acting like assholes.
Lol Dana please cut Silva. I am absolutly dieing for Silva Fedor and you won’t put Lesnar in there with him. Hopefully Silva does the same shit to Sonnen and tells Dana to man up and cut him. Dana you are definitley going overboard and will fail miserably attempting to do this. You dum shit!
I PREDICT
Silva continues the showboating , and goes beyond his actions in the Main fight just to piss of Dana even more :D
Agree
This isn’t a match up that is going to force Silva to be serious while standing up. Clownfest 4.0 coming up.
Having Silva fight the guy that lost to Maia in under 2 mins isn’t gonna make him fight super hard.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonnen is ten times a smaller threat than Maia was. Man what are these guys thinking. Take one of the best JJ guys with very good takedowns and he gets demolished replace him with a guy who has great takedowns but nothing after that. Sheesh! At least the pre fight hype will be fun. What a waste!
And you really let Hendo go just to have a lesser version of himself fight for the belt. What are you guys doing up there? WTF man.
Sonnen may technically be less of a threat, but I think he will at least force Anderson to engage and fight for real. I don’t care if Anderson is fighting a guy who’s outmatched, as long as Anderson comes with some of that killer instinct ninja shit
Sonnen is going to run Silva out of the neighbourhood.
Food goes in here
by Pandanus on Apr 14, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully this fight isn’t as shitty as silva and Maia.I think Dana should have had silva fight Belfort though.Belfort has a better chance of beating silva than chael.
A giant butt scoot-a-thon would be better than the Silva/Maia fight.
I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP
Happy to hear. Sonnen is a tough ass wrestler and he wont be an easy fight for anderson.
by Ghost Face Killer on Apr 14, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions
If he ever acts like that again in the ring, I will cut him," said the UFC president. "I don’t care if he’s the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. I don’t care if he is the middleweight champion. I will cut him, absolutely
oh man, a part of me wants to have AS doing the same thing against Chael just to see if DW really does what he said he would, or just spin spin spin some more!
Look at them rim’s they spinning they spinning they spinning…
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
At this point
I would love to see this. Clown around, get cut and go fight RJJ and Fedor.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
and Gegard too, and Hendo. that’s four fights right there, two mega fights that will get him a lot of money as well.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
In my perfect world
Anderson would retire without having fought Gegard. Gegard would then just take his place as the amazing guy to watch.
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Gegard is that guy. I think Jones is. I think Gegard has a little too much hype right now. Im looking forward to seeing King Mo kill some of that hype. I love the destruction of hype trains. Chooo CHooo!
by p123 on Apr 14, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You might be right
For instance, I take Jacare in a re-match.
Also, my favorite fighter already tooled Gegard =D
by Chris Barton on Apr 14, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. Statements like this from Dana is exactly why half of the community absolutley hates him. Seriously looking like a doosh here Dana.
there is also the fact that Anderson will feel disrespected by this, and do it just to fuck with him
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Then Anderson can take his ass to Strikeforce and see if they want to put up with it, there is no room for this bullshit in what is supposedly the best promotion.
by Toolshed on Apr 14, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ridiculously over the top taunting, literally running away and hiding behind the ref, ruining a main event and blaming his opponent for “disrespecting” him. You know, that bullshit.
I’ll watch his BS against Fedor in SF than, I’m sure they’d make it on CBS, and be one of the biggest viewed fight in MMA history.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Being on CBS pretty much automatically means a lot of eyes on the fight. You think that promoting 2 guys that don’t speak english and have never been major draws on their own is going to be some huge mega event? It’d get less media coverage than Brock Lesnar’s next UFC fight
yeah, let’s see how much views this weekend’s card will pull and compare it to when Fedor fought Rogers…
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I’m sure it will draw less than Fedor-Rogers. Which in turn drew less than any fight with Kimbo or Gina Carano on it.
I think you're missing how dramatically different the scenario is if Anderson is canned
Before Anderson was the champion no one cared about. Now he’s the asshole everyone wants to see lose. Even if fans only want to watch him lose, that still makes him a draw.
On top of that you don’t think there would a lot of press and hype if Anderson Silva got canned from the UFC? You don’t think people would be clamoring to see this uppity (being intentionally offensive here) Brazilian get taught a lesson? You don’t think they’d be excited to see the greatest HW in history be the one to do it? Or that the mma media wouldn’t have a meltdown covering a fight between two of the best p4p fighters in the world?
Let me explain the difference here.
Tito Ortiz. Big mouth, talks a lot. Lots of people DO NOT LIKE Tito Ortiz. Many of these fans watch his PPV’s just to see him lose. He has a big mouth to hype fights, and when he gets in the ring, he’s at least competing with whoever he’s fighting.
Kalib Starnes. Known for putting on the worst MMA fight of all time, because he ran around the ring refusing to engage his opponent. Was laughed out of the UFC and now is trying to scrape by on the small show.
Anderson Silva is a lot more Kalib Starnes than he is Tito Ortiz. It’s not that people want to see him lose because he said something inflammatory. It’s that he gets into the ring and doesn’t want to fight. People have no desire to watch that.
No? In what way is what Silva did in rounds 4 and 5 of the Maia fight any different than what Starnes did? At least Starnes had a broken foot.
You pin pointed 2 rounds of a Silva fight – compared it to Kalib’s – now they are the same. Yes I believe you.
I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand
Point being, people who watched that fight are going to feel similarly to the people who watched the Starnes fight. Nobody watches a guy run away from someone in the ring and decides “Hell yeah, let’s watch him fight again!”
Here’s how it’s going to go:
“Anderson Silva is fighting this weekend.”
“Fuck that, I don’t want to watch him run around all night”
I agree he wasn’t a draw, but I think you’re missing the potential he now he has. People might say "Fuck that, I don’t want to watch him run around all night" or, if he is booked against an opponent fans are interested in and think has a shot to beat him, they may say, “Man, I can’t wait for (Fedor/GSP/Chael/Belfort) to teach that bastard a lesson”. He’s the man fans want to see lose, and that means he has the potential to draw if matched up against the right opponent.
Yep they need to change that one blog’s name to Watch Andy Run.
by Polyhedron on Apr 14, 2010 9:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He had fun winning a MMA contest. Winning was his job. Everything you are mad about is because you had some strange preconceived notion about what Silva seems to have “owed” you.
Your opinion that he “ruined a main event” is absurd.
by Chris Barton on Apr 15, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
“If he ever acts like that again in the ring, I will cut him,” said the UFC president. “I don’t care if he’s the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. I don’t care if he is the middleweight champion. I will cut him, absolutely.”
Forget what Dana said about TUF, this is his biggest whopper in a long time.
by John Nash on Apr 14, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Then Strikeforce will get to market a fighter that is fan unfriendly, a terrible draw, very picky about his opponents, and used to making huge paydays. Not to mention would now have 4 of his prior 5 fights being absolutely painful to watch.
Fuck, Fedor might be a pain in the ass on the business side, but when you put him in the ring he DELIVERS FIGHTS. If you guys think that Anderson is going to shock the world leaving UFC, you’re delusional.
What about all the quotes of Dana claiming him to be the P4P best. Surely that would make the advertising.
Anderson Silva:PPV Buys::Carrot Top:Box Office
And? It hasn’t worked in the UFC, why would it work in Strikeforce? Fact is, UFC has been putting all of their muscle into promoting Anderson, and the guy is not a draw. UFC realizes this and puts him on free TV, or on cards with guys like BJ Penn and Chuck Liddell.
The idea is that fans will see him fight and want to see him fight again. The problem is, he’s doing his best to make sure that nobody wants to see him fight again.
Nah man, all those people who say they don’t buy cards with AS on them are lying and he isn’t the worst draw out of all the champs. If the UFC loses him it will be the worst business move in the history of MMA.
I could barely type that out without cracking the hell up.
To be fair, the people ON HERE who are saying that are probably full of shit. If we care enough about MMA that we’re talking about it on message boards, we’re watching every card anyways.
But most guys don’t buy every card, and they wait for something to perk them up before they watch it. Anderson Silva does not perk their ears up.
So I wonder what we're gonna get: An epic finish, or another game of charades?
I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP
Expect a MW version of Florian - Penn
3 rounds of failed take downs until the fight is finished.
OR
Pretty much as VegasBatman put it
This isn’t a match up that is going to force Silva to be serious while standing up. Clownfest 4.0 coming up.
Having Silva fight the guy that lost to Maia in under 2 mins isn’t gonna make him fight super hard.
Let the trash talking begin! If Anderson had a problem with Maia’s pre-fight talk his head is going to implode when he get’s in the ring with Chael.
Well, I guess we’ll find out. This shit is going to be hilarious. God I hope this happens soon.
by Krumpenstein on Apr 14, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana cutting Silva....
Is the BULL-SHIT statement of they new decade, calling it right now.
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
It's just damage control.
Now it’s up to Silva to comeback really humble and destroy Sonnen in the 1st round. Fans will love him again. Watch.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 14, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yea the pre fight hype is the major seller of this fight.
Sonnen strengths
Shit Talking
Olympic Caliber Wrestling
Sonnen Weaknesses
Doesn’t have too much to offer on the standup
Susceptible to Submissions
The only thing this fight proves to me is how good Silva’s distancing and takedown defense are now. That is the only thing that will really be tested. If Sonnen can’t take Silva down they better not even think about putting Silva GSP as it would be a bloodbath. So perhaps this fight is a little test run into seeing if GSP actually has a shot against Silva. Im ok with that.
Im up in the air right now with the probabilties. I think its as probable that Silva maintains distance and wrecks Sonnen on the feet is as probable as Sonnen being able to take Silva down.
The only thing is that
AS off his back has a high probability of subbing Sonnen. Especially over 5 rounds. Also factor in that Sonnen likely will not finish Silva. Very unlikely scenario.
Best Case Scenario for Sonnen
Sonnen can LNP his way thru 5 rounds. Uninteresting to say the least.
Bad Situation for Sonnen
Sonnen is able to get Silva down but Silva ends up submitting Sonnen .
Worse Situation for Sonnen
Sonnen is having a really difficult time securing takedowns with Anderson’s great distancing . Silva picks him apart and eventually KOs Sonnen
Worst Situation for Sonnen
Sonnen is having a difficult time securing takedowns. Silva beats him up bad for 3 rounds but can’t put him out. Sonnen after withnessing the horror that is Anderson Silva becomes a little puppy and is scared to engage after having his nose broken face broken etc. Silva proceeds to dance around the ring and mock Dana and dare him to release him .
by p123 on Apr 14, 2010 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Anderson’s submissions off his back are overrated. He landed one on Lutter, but that wasn’t set up by BJJ wizardry, it was striking off his back. Hell, you could argue that the elbows are what they called the fight for.
Also, you can bet your ass they would fire him if he pulled that crap again. 1000 guys on a message board doesn’t mean shit when you’ve got a guy out there making the people buying PPV’s feel completely ripped off. Half the keyboard warriors just watched it on justin.tv anyways.
What would you call overrated? If anything you are overrating Sonnen’s sub defense. It is beyond me how you don’t see how a long legged black belt under Nog couldn’t submit a wreslter with bad sub defense. Crazyiness on this forum huh?
Sonnen’s sub defense is his weakness, but Anderson has exactly 1 submission from the guard in his entire career, and it was basically submitting a guy he had stunned with a strike. It doesn’t scream huge submission threat to me.
Wanderlei has a black belt too, but I don’t expect him to pull off crazy guard submissions. A lot of MMA fighters use their BJJ primarily only for defense, and I think Anderson is one of them. It’s not impossible that he’s going to submit Sonnen, but it’s by no means a foregone conclusion.
Anderson has long limbs and knows how to use them. Wand does not. This is a factor regardless if you like it or not.
Anderson is a legit black belt. I never said that it was a foregone conclusion. In my write up Iisted 4 possible scenarios. Two of the included Sonnen fighting AS on his back for majority of both. One is him LNPing his way to decision and the other is AS submitting him.
Surely AS submitting him is a legit serious threat. I wouldn’t bring it up unless it was.
Sorry to break the news but Anderson isn’t a top level BJJ fighter. Assuming you take all the striking out, he appears to be a mid level BJJ fighter. Studying BJJ myself and having done it for many years now, it pisses me off to see fighters get their black belts without having “earned” the black belt. True, I don’t know Silva’s past with BJJ but I sure as hell know what it’s like to train with top level BJJ guys and Silva sure doesnt seem like one of them
by dreamers_12345 on Apr 15, 2010 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Well considering A. silva's blackbelt..
He just fought arguably the best BJJ guy in MMA and didn’t get submitted.. He’s only been submitted 2 times in his entire career of 30 professional MMA bouts, and both of those were pre heavy BJJ training and one of them was one of the flukiest submission’s off all time.. It defines the term “getting caught”…
I think you underestimate his BJJ.. As Jason H. pointed out.. Not all BJJ has to be completely offensive to be justifiably good or accomplished at it. He’s fought some pretty good BJJ guys and beat them handily..
Maia, Lutter, Leites, Horn..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
You’ll have to forgive us if we put more stock in the Nogueira brothers’ and Jacare’s opinion of Anderson’s ground game than in yours. Unless you’re Xande Ribeiro or Roger Gracie.
by HarmlessNinja on Apr 15, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
We have already went thru what would happen if he was fired. It would be a total fail on the UFC part. Just because some keyboard warriors watch it on a stream doesn’t make them less informed if anything it is more likely that they are more informed than the next guy seeing as they actually need to watch the fights whether they have money or not. Also shouting out a stream is not cool no matter how well known it is.
trust me
Anderson will have a fight signed tomorrow if he got cut today, I don’t think he worries about that.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I'm so excited for this...
I’m from SLC and have been dying for them to bring a card to Utah. I always expected a UFN for the 1st card here.
Thanks Dana and the UFC for bringing me A. Silva.
I for one love all the anger coming from Dana
People may say it’s unprofessional (which it is) but who cares? I normally find Dana to be a huge douchebag, but after this and seeing his reaction to the circus AS put on, I’m on the Dana war wagon. More power to him for not putting up with these antics and especially for threatening to cut Silva. Whether he would or will is yet to be seen but for once I’m happy to see Dana say fuck in every sentence. WAR DANA!
Im just...
picturing Silva coming down to the octagon in a clown suit complete with oversized shoes..hell this fight may as well be in a goddamm circus tent.
If it happens in Chaels neighborhood
Silva loses in round 2
by IRodC on Apr 14, 2010 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
And you're not in the minority here either..
Your statement is the sole reason that many people will tune in next time.. Just to see him lose..
It’s essentially turned things around for A. Silva in that now people want to tune in for one or the other.. Don’t buy all the srawman and hyperbole being thrown around on MMA forums.. The age old tactic of love to hate plays right into this, bar none..
It’e been used in professional boxing and wrestling for years. Sometimes people love to hate as much as they love to love.. Essentially getting the same desired effect on both ends.. People interested and watching..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
If Silva acts like a jackass again and gets cut from the UFC I think it would be the best thing for the fans. It makes Strikeforce that much better and there are a lot of good fights for him there, as long as he didn’t keep acting like an idiot I think it would be a win for the UFC and Silva.
The UFC doesn’t have to cave to their diva champion
and
AS could probably get more cash out of Strikeforce.
Silva would get paid alot less at SF, Also its not a champion they want to promote they are trying to build there brand and pull fans in nothing is worse then that if Silva pulls anothr Dance fest plus he does not speak Englsih. I don’t think SF would be all over him like most think ?
SF would definitely pick him up and they would probably pay him as much as he wants just so they can say they have the 2 best fighters in the world.
you guys realize your talking about the best fighter on the planet right? I mean when did we forget that? Just because he dances a little when he is leaps and bounds above his competition doesnt change that. If anything it enhances it.
Hes so godamn good he doesnt even need to fight. That just blew my mind
They need Champions other then Fedor who speak Wnglish and who are popular and sell fights Anderson does neather of those. Plus any fighter would tell you the UFC #1 pays more then SF and #2 you get a hell of alot more from sponcors being in the UFC then you do strike force. And I don’t think CBS would risk putting him on a card. What don’t toy get Silvas stock is done for shot right now.
If AS was concerned with Maia's 'disrespect'...
…his head is going to ASSPLODE between now and August.
Someone needs to sit down with Anderson and ask him "whats really going on?" ....
WITHOUT TRANSLATION FROM ED SOARES
Yes!
Awesome news after settling in from a long, boring day.
Chael Sonnen was right. All aboard the War Elephant!
I specializes in grammar fail.
Good move.
Like it for any number of reasons.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Apr 14, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions
Gets cut eh? Now there’s hope for Fedor vs Silva. Damn, I truly hope for another Silva meltdown.
I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand
Have you ever considered that
Sonnen’s trash talking could backfire and actually bore Silva more than we could imagine. If a simple hype attempt by Maia fucked up Anderson and eventually got uninterested because he can’t deliver, Chael’s should step up big time come fight night. We could possibly see Spider tapping out of dissapointment.
I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand
What if getting cut is what Anderson wants?
Think about it. He wants to go into boxing, he knows he’ll never win a legal battle with the UFC, so the only reasonable way to get his boxing match is to get cut from the UFC.
Makes sense to me.
No ity doesn't make any sense in the least bit..
The boxing match is a one off thing. He makes guaranteed money right now (in the millions) with his current fight contract.
The boxing thing is only a personal goal, not a main goal for him, otherwise he wouldn’t have renewed his fight contract with the UFC this last time. He was two fights away from contractual terms completion and retirement, then announced he was heavily considering it, then decides to re-up for another 8 fights ( 2 of which he has just completed) and now has 6 more on his contract..
He signed a new 8 fight extension before the Forrest fight because he knows where his bread is buttered..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
It is what it is
Cooler heads prevail. But what happens if Sonnen shoots and misses for 5 rounds?
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
Than he’s an even bigger idiot than I gave him credit for basically he just killed what little ability he had as a draw with his UFC 112 performance. 1 more performance like that and he will be a toxic performer and basically useless to anybody else how markets him. I would love it if he did act up and go to SF then he could fight Fedor and stink up the joint on live tv and bury SF and these idiotic fans who think him burying him career is a smart move.
But it’s not going to happen because he’s going to get taken down and smashed by Sonnen, I love the fact that people are using mma math as a reason why he will lose. Honestly hardcore fans are some of the most delusional people I have ever met, styles make fights and Sonnen is going to be Andy’s biggest nightmare. I’m going to be counting down the days until this fight happens because nobody deserves to be humbled more than Andy and his insane fanboys.
If you honestly think Silva will stink up the joint if ever pitted against Fedor, you have no right to call others delusional and insane.
I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand
by vivero on Apr 14, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Our Lord Fedor would never be made a mockery of like these mortals. I wish Silva would do that bring it on bullshit and curse at Fedor. Fedor via bearclaw berserkerness.
Imagine it now...
Anderson vs. Fedor…Anderson clowns around, acting like a dick, Fedor gets angry and throws a murderfist and gets countered, KO’ed by some short punch like Griffin.
The entire internet implodes from the combined rage.
Everyone needs to calm down with getting their heads up about silva leaving.
This is the perfect empty threat. How on earth will he be able to fight the fight he fought against Maia against Sonnen? Sonnen isn’t going to stand there and wait for an opportunity to get the fight to the ground, he’s going to go forward until he gets the takedown or he’s unconscious.
The last three fights have been BJJ guys who wouldn’t go in for the takedown. Sonnen doesn’t care.
why does Sonnen get the shot
He was only named the number 1 contender because vitor got hurt.
Detroit Red Wings = next Stanley Cup Champs. Howard for Vezna
if he is still hurt its understandable, but...
I was watching a video where vitor was talking about how he has started training again
Detroit Red Wings = next Stanley Cup Champs. Howard for Vezna
Sonnen beating Okami and Nate is a legit Number 1 to me. Especially since the only thing that could knock him with Maia beating him is settled seeing as Maia just got a title shot.
Vitor is no #1 contender but he would be very interesting. I would say Vitor is like 7th in MW as of today which would be fair.
Uh, no.
Chael was named #1 contender before Vitor was hurt.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Apr 14, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
uh no.
Vitor got hurt and the winner of Sonnen and Marquardt was gunna get the shot
Detroit Red Wings = next Stanley Cup Champs. Howard for Vezna
That depends on what you consider Number 1 contender.
Is the #1 Contender the next guy to fight for the title or
is he the #2 guy in the division.
UFC blurs this line constantly so I would think we are talking about #2 in the division. Which would mean that both of you guys are wrong including myself seeing as Hendo is #2 MW to me. Lol. Er I just confused the fuck out of myself there.
Here are my MW rankings just for reference
1) Silva
2) Hendo
3) Nate
4) Sonnen
5) Okami
6) Maia
7) Vitor
"Which would mean that both of you guys are wrong"
Im not wrong about anything here. Vitor was the Number 1 contender ( person who will get the next title shot) before he got hurt, but I agree with you that Hendo is #2 and they should of gave him the shot when they named him the number1 contender after he knocked bisping tfo
Detroit Red Wings = next Stanley Cup Champs. Howard for Vezna
Yes, Vitor was given the shot before Chael. But, Chael beat Nate, the winner of that fight being promised a title shot, before Vitor got hurt and was already slated to get the next title shot after Vitor vs Silva. So, he was essentially the #1 contender.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Apr 14, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
it didnt happen like that
Vitor got hurt before nate and cheal fought. They only reason it wasnt Sonnan fighting Anderson instead of Maia is because of all the cuts on his face.
Detroit Red Wings = next Stanley Cup Champs. Howard for Vezna
Goldiggah is correct..
However, Vitor was never the true number one contender.. He was just given his title shot based on the stylistic match-up and that Vitor was a previous champion that was coming in on a hot streak and Anderson hadn’t fought him yet.. The reservation from fighting Marquardt and Henderson stemmed from Anderson beating both of them pretty easily and neither of those fights were too far removed. Both guys had gotten on streaks again and both were in the same exact position at vying for the next shot. I believe the UFC gave them an ultimatum in that they had to fight each other to determine the true number one contender. This was before Vitor came back. Hendo wanted a bigger money deal and a guaranteed shot at Anderson.. Dana wouldn’t budge on the terms. Marquardt played ball and Sonnen filled the void for Hendo after upsetting Okami. Vitor was given the shot first before Sonnen and Marquardt fought. The winner of that fight was going to be the replacement for Vitor, who had been injured. Unfortunately Sonnen took a nasty cut and would not be ready to go by the date established and Silva wanted to get in there right away because he had been out for more than 6 months.
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
Could’ve sworn that Vitor was hurt after that fight, but oh well. Not the first time I’ve been wrong.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Apr 15, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Not so sure. I fear Anderson will dance again.
Sonnen has mediocre boxing and couldn’t hurt a fly. So he’s only got wrestling to go by and if that’s all Anderson needs to prepare for then it will be an easy, boring UD victory.
The Seahawks have traded my signature to the Detroit Lions for a 6th round draft pick.
I really think the only reason they are giving this fight to Chael is to see if Anderson is gonna change his attitude. If he doesn’t and he does the same thing to Sonnen he did to Maia they can just cut him and he has no opportunity to ruin the reputation of one of the UFC’s stars in a super-fight.
by Toolshed on Apr 14, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
shoulda waited another day or two to announce this...
…to pull even more attention anyway from the cbs strikeforce show. though i wouldn’t be surprised to see them drop a few more announcements by weeks end, to serve the same purpose.
either way, i’m glad we can start to close the book on the maia discussions, and start talking about this heel fest. should be hilarious. not so sure about the actual fight though.
What a waste
UFC could match Silva with anyone 170 and up. Sonnen, competitive or no, isn’t a name. Give him a heavyweigt. Give him GSP. Give him f’n BJ Penn. The most interesting fight Silva has had in the past year or so has been with Forrest Griffin. What the hell is the UFC thinking?
Thumbs down
Sonnen lost badly to the guy that Silva just clowned. It will do nothing for nobody
I like this fight
Do i think chael’s got silva’s number? probably not
But i do think he has the tools to force silva to fight. I hated the fight other night but seeing silva engage against ppl trying to take the fight to him is a thing of beauty
Sonnen wont win but at least he will keep anderson busy. I dont see sonnen sitting back not trying to engage, nor finishing the fight if he can take him down, but it does open up some exciting outcomes:
Big KO by anderson as sonnen comes in
Seeing some of anderson’s jits
Seeing how anderson reacts if he loses 2 or 3 early rounds via sonnen smothering him
I got anderson taking the fight 99% of the time but seeing if sonnen can hold out for 5 interests me too. I never mind a fight going the distance if its the massive underdog stealing the fight
Having said all that im a fan of the belfort fight too. Although i wouldnt mind seeing belfort dispatch someone else in the mean time
205 or gsp
i hope sonnen does bring it cause if you try to bring it to the spider you are looking at some knees like ace got. I hope sonnen puts up a fight idk maybe i think to highly of silva nah nah nah he is the best but he needs to go to 205 or fight gsp and prove y he is p4p the best ever. silva could take fedor imo.
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