The Ultimate Fighter 11: Team Liddell vs. Team Ortiz Live Discussion (Episode 3)
by Mike Fagan on Apr 14, 2010 10:27 PM EDT
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Hey guys, I'm back. I forgot about this whole TUF thing this season because, frankly, it offers nothing of value. Because of a conflict with my jiu jitsu class, I won't be able to watch this live for y'all, either. I'll try to make it up with the weekly posts.
So, I caught up with the season last night. Looks like standard TUF fare so far. The coaches are already talking smack. Some dude "quit on his dreams." Pranks. Someone dogging it in training. Etc. etc.
Oh, but what's this about Rich Franklin stepping in for Tito Ortiz at UFC 115. This is very moderately barely interesting news! The MMA blogosphere seems confused why Zuffa leaked this information on Monday. Are we that dense? The UFC put this out there to try and wash the Dancing Silva and Crosby'd Penn out of our mouths. I think I'd rather watch Silva dance around for five rounds than Franklin fight Liddell. Meh.
I'm gonna guess "When Does Tito Leave?" becomes "Does Kimbo Fight Again?" for the season. Oh joy.
The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale coverage
Team Ortiz Team Liddell
Nick Ring Kyle Noke
Kyacey Uscola Rich Attonito
Kris McCray Charles Blanchard
Jamie Yager Josh Bryant
James Hammortree Brad Tavares
Clay MicKinney Court McGee
Chris Camozzi Joe Henle
Seth Baczynski
-- photos via mmajunkie.com
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Really?
Why wouldn’t you want to see Franklin fight Liddell? It’s a much more interesting matchup for Chuck than Tito is. I could honestly see this fight going either way, and the match is truly going to mean a lot to the careers of both fighters. If Franklin loses, it’s going to signal that he has truly begun the downswing. If Chuck knocks Rich out in stellar fashion, it could be the start of a decent comeback.
It’s at least an interest-piquing fight…and with the potential to mean more than a Chuck v Tito matchup.
Also
The first two episodes of TUF have been decent this season so far. The fights in the first episode were shown in an entertaining fashion. It seems that the UFC has assembled some decent talent this season, and with the exception of Mr. Afro, most of the guys seem to have good heads on their shoulders, as opposed to the Junie Browning and Brother fiasco seasons.
Why the TUF hate? If you don’t like it, no one is force-feeding it to you.
And I’d rather watch Chuck Liddell drink Pabst Blue Ribbons and pad his belly for 25 minutes than watch Anderson Silva dance circles around his opponent mid-insult.
The title of the spike ad “who will be sent home?” looks like it’s referring to either chuck or Tito
by MikeD32 on Apr 14, 2010 8:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Or a fighter leaves the house.
Team Liddell took the first victory in the competition – will Team Ortiz rebound and even the score? Plus, who will end up leaving the competition? Tune into an all new episode of The Ultimate Fighter tonight at 10pm ET/PT.
Yea…I was trying to make a joke with what we know now about Tito. Joke fail.
by MikeD32 on Apr 14, 2010 8:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For trying to headbutt a cardboard door
And cracking his hydrocephalic skull.
by Paul Stan on Apr 14, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
o dear god i hope thats it
it would be a top moment in tv history
cause its really really fuckin big
generally heads like that are big in every picture…..
The MMA blogosphere seems confused why Zuffa leaked this information on Monday. Are we that dense? The UFC put this out there to try and wash the Dancing Silva and Crosby’d Penn out of our mouths.
I thought the reason they went ahead and released the Chuck/Franklin info was because tickets were going on sell and they wanted to make sure the fans knew what the main event for that card was before asking them to buy tickets.
Just BE.
Yea, it was because the tickets were officially going on sale and even with “card subject to change” they can cause legal issues lying when they know the card is already not going to be that.
This whole article just sounds like everybody at BE is a bit butthurt over the Dana lying thing. Which I’m still trying to understand. If they were so blindsided by his lies; why did every article I read on here mention their doubts?
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
who the fuck cares about dana lying.
honestly. its a business, and in this business nobody likes spoilers. I for one am HAPPY he was misleading, because I’d rather not know what to expect down the road.
I love surprises. Let me guess, you were the type of kid that would carefully cut open a corner of his christmas presents early in the morning before you’re parents woke up to see what was inside, than carefully taped it back up. well good for you.
by Opposites Attack on Apr 15, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
by the way, I am not talking specifically to you:
jeremyshane, this is aimed at the author of this piece, which I find pretty bad all around. just my opinion. it just comes off sounding bitter.
by Opposites Attack on Apr 15, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
because he lost last week and is out (for now)
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
no way
that dude was a beast, crazy.
this season sucks ass, just waiting for z finale
by TobikanJudan 6 6 6 on Apr 15, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope Tito doesn’t leave for a few more episodes. I love watching him coach these guys.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 9:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Starring the back of Jake Shields’ head
by Polyhedron on Apr 14, 2010 10:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He's trying way too hard for my liking
We get it. Don’t exaggerate the lisp just to sell your persona.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
yea; i can see his point; but the way he said it sounded so kindergarten tattle tale
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Apr 14, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
its a team thing... for now.
they fight the other team to move on to the next phase of the competition
well ya but in the end does it really matter if your teammate wins or not
by xbuckeyex05 on Apr 14, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
why would you want to help someone get better so they have a better chance to beat you in the end
by xbuckeyex05 on Apr 14, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
so that they will help you…
this isn’t chess… thinking two moves ahead isn’t always wise since each move is a separate game in and of itself.
I mean I see where your coming from, I just dont know if I would approach it that way.
by xbuckeyex05 on Apr 14, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It's like real life...
If you’re a dick to your training partners good luck finding a team when you’re out on your own. Making friends, helping others is part of the fight game…even if it’s about being the champion in the end.
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I didn’t have any strikeforce commercials yet. I’m in Iowa watching on cable tv. Hmmm
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 10:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yea im in Ohio and havent seen any either,
by xbuckeyex05 on Apr 14, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m in VA and don’t remember seeing any either
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Apr 14, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Tito is a good coach
But god I hate his voice.
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@deowade
HAMMERTREE HAMMERTREE HAMMERTREE HAMMERTREE HAMMERTREE HAMMERTREE
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hammer fist elbow!
HAMMER FIST ELBOW! HAMMER FIST ELBOW! HAMMER FIST ELBOW! HAMMER FIST ELBOW! HAMMER FIST ELBOW! HAMMER FIST ELBOW! HAMMER FIST ELBOW! HAMMER FIST ELBOW! HAMMER FIST ELBOW!
Anybody remember that season with matt serra screaming that 1,274 times from cage side during the fight?
by Opposites Attack on Apr 15, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I was kinda leaning the other way. I felt like Tavares won the very little bit of stand up and had mount and his back 2 or 3 times. Hammortree had many dominant positions to but idk I wouldnt be surprised either way.
by xbuckeyex05 on Apr 14, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 10:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
With the exception of the last few seconds, did they throw a punch? I saw elbows from Hammortree, but I don’t remember punches.
I’m kinda surprised at how entertaining that fight was without punches. That was an awesome round to watch.
by Swordslasher on Apr 14, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No its not that shits for gays ask Lights Out
by xbuckeyex05 on Apr 14, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I forgot how good TUF fights could be.
by Swordslasher on Apr 14, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
ya these first 2 fights are already better then all oflast season
by xbuckeyex05 on Apr 14, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
mudwrestling midgets would better than all of last season
by IronMonkey13 on Apr 15, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions
mudwrestling midgets are better than anything
I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
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by slapjaw ackrite on Apr 15, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Over/Under on Tito saying Hammortree over 50 times?
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UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP
HIPS HIPS HIPS HIPS HIPS HIPS HIPS HIPS HIPS HIPS HIPS HIPS HIPS
How about body lock 10 times in 10 seconds?
by Swordslasher on Apr 14, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, if we played a drinking game tonight it'd look like this.
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@deowade
by Damon O. on Apr 14, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Still 20 minutes left in the show at the start of round 2. Hmmm.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 10:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I like how it just kind of happened and when Tavares realized it he started doing it harder
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 15, 2010 12:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP
COME ON SON
HAMMORTREE HAMMORTREE HAMMORTREE
by Polyhedron on Apr 14, 2010 10:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
is that similar to a living death?
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from what I have heard from Doug Crosby the answer is yes
by xbuckeyex05 on Apr 14, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how they call it sudden “victory”. So self conscious.
by Polyhedron on Apr 14, 2010 10:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You gotta admit it would look bad if the first UFC fighter death happened to occurr during “sudden death”
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Apr 14, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how in the intro the announcer said “who will be the next casualty?” Not the best choice of words.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 10:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Both guys look pretty spent to me. Hopefully we get to see a little more standup before it hits the mat again.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 10:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sammy Henson was a bad, bad man in wrestling
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
I think on the plus side for this season, they look less gassed than the heavyweights did after two rounds.
aint that the truth
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Apr 14, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
They look less gassed after 2 than the heavyweights did after 1.
by Swordslasher on Apr 14, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Too much lowering his head, not enough lowering his hips
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Tavares owned that round
Dude never came close to finishing that TD. Horrible shot, worse finish. Kept his hips up and head down – you’ll never finish a shot that way. Kimura by Tavarez neutralized anything Hammortree did.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Yea, Tavares has it
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Apr 14, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Good thought to use the kimora to neutralize the takedown attempt
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
i love Chuck's reactions... lulz he looks like a drunk zombie
Jack Bauer could get off the Lost island in 24 hours.
by timetosaygoodbye on Apr 14, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
That was a close one.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 14, 2010 10:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chuck looks hilarious when he watches fights
It’s like when Chimps see other chimps fight and they get amped and start throwing feces.
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@deowade
right decision
Very close fight, but Hammortree had a one-dimensional gameplan and couldn’t implement it for the last couple of minutes while eating little punches to the face. Tavares won, IMO
Yup, definitely the right decision. Props to the judges.
by moonlapse88 on Apr 14, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
what? You know Hammortree was the guy in the red shorts right?
The guy that got punched in the face until he got a take down and then laid on him in bad positioning and did nothing but get hit and fight a kimura the rest of the fight…
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Apr 14, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I felt Hammortree edged him out through his positioning and control. Take down. Side mount. Mount. But I can see why the judges saw it the other way considering the punches and Kimura attempt. Really close.
I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP
I suppose. I’ve never been much for wrestling control point wise; I always felt it should be a means to and end. But it was def a close fight.
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Apr 14, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. It gets points though. Though to beat a dude with better wrestling than you but not much else. Gray Maynard’s opponents can attest to that.
I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP
yea; this is true; I just like to see wrestlers use it to dominate positionally and then beat the crap out of or tap out their opponent; Kinda like the way Brock used his wrestling to control and counter Mir and his BJJ, but then he laid into him and finished the fight.
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Apr 14, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Tavares landed almost all of the blows in the third round. Hammertree spent the last half of the round trying for a TD, but never actually controlling T.
Taverez won the third round without a doubt. Hammertree has potential, but he needs to develop some actual offense. Control alone is not going to make for a successful career.
by Lynchman on Apr 14, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Damn
I was looking forward to Tito leaving
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
Looks like he might be taking off next episode. Plus.. the return of the cheap-ass doors.
Keep sleepin' on me...
maybe the door rampage broke was replaced by a real door and tito attacks that one as well and breaks his hand or head!
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Apr 14, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know who cuts the promo for the next episode
but damn, they deserve a raise.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
now thats what you call standing and banging lol!
by xbuckeyex05 on Apr 14, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
PRIDE!!!!!
Oh, how I’ve missed you.
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This thread is now about PRIDE.
by Polyhedron on Apr 14, 2010 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol was just about to post that
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We has a winner
I got sidetracked by that mauling of Inoue.
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Tavares was the much better fighter
but Tito shows a well coached fighter can get out of tough spots and use heart and will to make it a close fight. I had Hammoretree winning that round but I’m willing to call it 10-10 since they brought offence in a different way.
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I wanted Hammoretree to win at the start… but I’m happy Tavares won in the end. He won be over in the 3rd round.
by Nick Thomas on Apr 14, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Going to see a lot more of him
He’s the MMAJunkie TUF columnist…
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Holy Crap
I just watched the preview for the next episode in slo-mo, somebody on Tito’s team is on the receiving end of a straight up piledriver! Did anybody else catch that?
If so, I could see why Tito would be upset, considering his neck injury.
Man did Mike fagan forget to eat his fuckin cherrios this morning or something? Sweet jesus – such negativity.
This season has quality fighters and the matches have been entertaining and competitive.
I forgot about this whole TUF thing this season because, frankly, it offers nothing of value.
God forbid, there’s no kimbo or big, dull, boring heavyweights gassin’ in two mintues.
That fight tonight was awesome and full of great back and forth action. Solid stuff.
This TUF season is blowing most out of the water.
And liddel Vs Franklin is something I’v been waiting to happen for years.
Other TUF seasons
have pissed off people enough so I understand… I just want to see fights.
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Apr 15, 2010 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions
seriously.
i like this season actually. its better than having more junie brownings and shit. at least we have some quality guys with a good amount of talent and experience between them. this season is pretty damn good and entertaining, and I love how they cut out most of the reality TV real world drama shit. this is about fighting and training. and thats what we are getting. good. GREAT. GRAND. WONDERFUL!
by Opposites Attack on Apr 15, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He showed great potential. I think he’s great and has a good shot at winning it all. He’s gritty but has some technical skill. Transitions well too.
Damn that was supposed to be a reply up a bit lol
by moonlapse88 on Apr 14, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Close fight but there’s no doubt tavares won that last round. Both guys have potential.
by Ghost Face Killer on Apr 15, 2010 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
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Chuck looks like he’s having a “Fred Sanford” moment!
by justbleed9999 on Apr 15, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
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