Ten Fights Dana White Should Book for Anderson Silva or Die Trying
by Kid Nate on Apr 12, 2010 11:19 PM EDT
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I thought both of these pieces had an interesting take on the Silva situation, from very different perspectives. Here's Donna from Gal's Guide to MMA on Anderson Silva:
Here's the problem. Anderson Silva is the best MMA fighter ever. There is no one out there that even comes close to having the kind of talent that Silva does. Silva was fighting Maia, arguably the best BJJ fighter in the UFC, and the difference between their skill levels was a joke. Anderson Silva is a Hermes Birkin crocodile handbag, and everyone else is just a Louis Vuitton knockoff. (Sorry boys, but the girls know what I mean.) However, this by no means gives Silva the right to act the way he did last night. If you're that good, and no one can provide a challenge to you, then leave the sport gracefully. Work on getting the fastest KO in history. Try your hand at different weight classes. Do something besides what you did last night. Silva has stated that he wants a shot at GSP, and then perhaps he'll move up to heavyweight and try his luck there. But I'd say the chance of Dana White letting that happen after last night's debacle is slim and none.
So, what's going to happen next? I'm really not sure, but I do know that MMA fans have a long memory. Silva probably permanently damaged his fan base after last night. The guy still holds the belt, so he's going to get the chance to defend it, but is anyone going to be rooting for him to win? The part that really sucks for me is, there isn't anyone out there that can take it from him. So now we have a middleweight champ that no one wants to see win, and a complete lack of fighters that can take him out. I'd say Dana White is in quite a pickle, no?
As everyone knows by now, I think Dana White created his own problem by booking Anderson Silva in fights that aren't worthy of his talents and can solve his problem by booking Silva in fights that ARE worthy of his talents. But I tend to agree with Donna that Dana is too petulant and vindictive to do the right thing.
Here's a very different perspective from Cage Side Seats. I think it's a brilliant look at the Anderson Silva situation from the outside. Luke Thomas thinks it "is a perfect example of the nihilism of pro wrestling rusting over sporting standards." Enjoy:
Time and again, the vast majority of the viewing audience rants and raves about how Anderson Silva is a mockery of a fighter, a no-good coward, or some similar nonsense. Yet, time and again, he comes back and dominates and the same complainers come back, hoping someone beats him. In pro wrestling terminology, this is textbook "heel champion" behavior, and a formula that has worked for years.
What no one ever seems to mention is that Silva is out-of-this-world good. He's a shining talent that only comes along once in a generation. Amazingly, UFC currently has both Silva and Georges St. Pierre, who are more than likely the greatest MMA fighters of all time in their respective weight classes (granted, it's a short history, but still). The difference between the two is that Georges St, Pierre believes in respecting the UFC fans and his opponents. He engages and beats them soundly, usually putting on a great show, because he's a joy to watch. Silva, on the other hand, has no hang-ups like respect to worry about, and for my money, the end result is endlessly more enjoyable and his last several fights, where he flaunted this flagrant disrespect for everyone and everything, have resulted in some of my favorite MMA fights of all time.
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Now, back in his own weight class, Silva is bored and unchallenged again, so he's gone back to his grandstanding and head games. And why should anyone blame him? He's been bored with his weight class for years and expressed a vehement interest in boxing a match against Roy Jones Jr. Unfortunately, Dana White would have no part of it. On Saturday, Silva faced Demian Maia, a fine fighter but nowhere near Silva's league. Silva did what Silva does, effortlessly took the first three rounds, then played keepaway from a frustrated Maia for the final two rounds and won the unanimous decision. Dana White claims to be livid and "embarrassed" by the performance, going so far as to have left ringside in the fourth round because he was "annoyed" by Silva.
I wish I could say that I understand Dana's compulsion to side with the moronic fans decrying Silva's antics. The harsh truth of the situation is that Silva is an unstoppable shooting star of a fighter who isn't going to be around forever. If I were Dana/UFC, I would talk up how ungodly good the guy is in interviews, on television, in promos, on commercials, on commentary during the fights, everything I could, because it's all true. UFC has proved time and again that it's easy to condition the fans to embrace your viewpoint if you push it hard enough. I have no idea why they wouldn't want to in this situation, unless they really are in the pro wrestling mindset that a strong heel champ will draw the most money for them. It's not a bad idea, but I don't know if I can give White that much credit. They aren't going to find anyone who can beat him, and it's clear that Silva doesn't care even a little bit about what his employers or viewing public think of him.
UFC is clearly hoping for a superfight between Silva and GSP, which should be off the charts. But beyond that, MMA fans really need to stop complaining and start appreciating, because you're not going to see many fighters this good in your lifetime. Appreciate the master's art.
It's that last bit that I would emphasize. Anderson Silva is a talent we might never see again in our lifetimes. I don't expect anything from Anderson Silva beyond making the most of that talent. He's certainly kept himself in top condition and is constantly improving his game. Anderson Silva is a total jackass. It's a waste of everyone's time to try to impose standards of behavior on him. If he wants to act like a man-child, whatever. There's a very simple cure for Silva's antics: put him in the cage with someone so scary that he can't act up.
I can think of ten fights I'd kill to see featuring Anderson Silva right off the top of my head. Dana White has an obligation to the fans and the sport to book Silva against the most dangerous fighters of our era. These fights are very real possibilities. It's up to Dana and Ed Soares to make them happen. Here we go:
- Fedor Emelianenko
- Brock Lesnar
- Cain Velasquez
- Gegard Mousasi
- Lyoto Machida
- Antonio Rogerio Nogeira
- Mauricio Shogun Rua
- Jon Jones
- Frank Mir
- Alistair Overeem
I think realistically that Silva has about three to six years to remain at this peak of form and ability. It should be possible to make at least four of these fights happen in that time period. Anything less (with the exception of Chael Sonnen or Vitor Belfort) is a waste of very precious time.
And if Dana wants to punish Silva he can book all of these fights on Spike TV for free.
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He won't fight Minotoro or Machida,period.Those are his homeboys.
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Obligatory obvious statement…
I think it would be far more likely he’d take the Machida fight rather than Minotoro…especially if he hasn’t been getting those big paydays.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 12, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is
Actual ability aside, I just don’t believe that Lyoto has the personality to “punish” Silva, the way Brock or Frank Mir would… come to think of it, other than maybe Overeem, I think they’re the only ones on the list who even would think that way.
When Dana said punish
I don’t think he meant “cause bodily harm”. More like “teach him a lesson” … which putting him on a Spike TV card would do, since he could no longer get a PPV bonus.
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Silva v Jon Jones
would be an amazing fight. If there’s anyone who can put him down on the ground it’s Jones, and it’d be a fascinating fight at LHW. If Jones loses, it does him no harm (he’s a prospect on the up and up losing to one of the best. If Jones wins, instant title shot, the Spider gets taken down a notch and you have a new star to promote.
Cmon, get that done.
If Jones broke Silva's face with an elbow,he'd become a national hero overnight.
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by Brian Mayes on Apr 12, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
I’d love to see this fight
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by JeremyShane on Apr 12, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon Jones
or GSP. I think both guys could realistically take Andy down and keep him there.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 12, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones has a ton of holes in his striking. Putting him up again the most precise and dangerous striker in all of MMA at this point in his career is an execution.
Brandon Vera and Matt Hamill and not in Silva’s hemisphere.
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
He only needs to be good enough to not get KO’ed until he takes Anderson down .
I’m not saying he wins this but stylistically he’s great against Anderson . Jon Jones so far seems to have the best take downs in LHW . He’s one of the most athletic and physically gifted fighters on that division (again , from what we’ve seen) . I know we hate mma math – but Jones CRUSHED Vera while Couture struggled and barely won a decision .
I think Jones could be good in this fight , and u know what after Henderson , Griffin , Irvin and all the guys who got embarrassed – I think he’ll surprise us all…Anderson will be physically smaller and not have reach advantage for once .
Not a great fight for Anderson – actually I’d be surprised if he took it . It’s a lose-lose for him because Jones is so young and lacks name value .
wow
Too much faith in a very green fighter. He had a tentative striker in Vera. Now you want to send him in with king of the unorthodox strikes? I’m sorry, jon jones has talent, But the kid needs at least 2 more years to really get his bearings before he could fight silva. Jones would be tagged repeatedly, he would not be able to cleanly hit silva and he would be demolished in the thai clinch.. even with his greco, silva’s clinch is one of the worst places in the world to be in.
by JaeeJaee on Apr 13, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
green shmeen. Silva doesn’t have enough time left for Jones to be “ready.” Jones is the most physically gifted fighter in the UFC, the one guy with the potential for the “otherworldy” descriptions places on Anderson. let’s see it before Andy is too old.
Only problem is that it’s a lose-lose for Anderson, so he prob won’t take it
My point is
You risk permanently damaging a prospect if you send him into the deep end too soon. I would rather watch jones flourish then dominate. Could he give silva a battle… there is definitely a possiblity. But the most likely outcome is he doesn’t. Sending him too deep too soon could mean we never see the Jon Jones we all feel he will grow to become.
Jones......
fights at 175 in boxing. he’d probably be a welterweight.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
My vote is for Rua if he loses to Machida…
I’d like to see him fight Jonny Bones, but I think it’s too early in Jones’ career to fight Anderson. I’d like to see him have a couple more fights on his way to a title shot(Jones).
And I can’t possibly explain to you how many times I was trying to view Vitor fighting Anderson instead of Maia Saturday…
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Why didn’t GSP make your list?
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by Tim Burke on Apr 12, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
curse you
for beating my post by about 2 seconds or something
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by Cory Braiterman on Apr 12, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
because Anderson would destroy GSP
and Dana would lose a cashcow. Face it GSP fans, you DO NOT want GSP to fight Anderson.
It would be very one-sided. Easy, easy, easy win for Anderson Silva.
As a matter of fact, Fedor is the only person on that list that would give Andy a tough fight.
It amazes me the attitude some of these “fans” have about the best fighter they have ever seen (whether they want to admit it or not, AS is just that).
How come nobody (other than me and Kid Nate) sees that the matchmakers are at fault here? Give the man somebody who can fight, he deserves it.
BTW, Anderson Silva is, and always will be, my favorite fighter. Talk all the shit you want about me – I care about as much as Anderson does about that. Haha
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Personal opinion represented as fact. Comment easily disregarded.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 13, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
as are you
I’ll continue to post whatever I want, and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.
A for effort though.
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
hopefully we'll get to see that fight
so everyone will see GSP can’t touch Anderson
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey man, never told you to stop posting anything. Just don`t expect most people to take you seriously with a demeanor like that.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 13, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yep
don’t care one bit
Honestly, how many of these people do you take seriously?
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I should also say
that I’m in a reallly fucking bad mood
Flying Gentleman, you seem to know your shit and I actually respect alot of what you say, and I owe you an apology for being a dick to you.
I am sorry.
I probably shouldn’t post after a really bad day like I had today.
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Cool. No worries. And like the sig says, i can have stick up my ass from time to time. Bad habits die hard, i guess.
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by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 13, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate being a douche to cool people
sorry again
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I might agree with the part about Silva being able to beat GSP, though the weight cut could take a toll on Silva since it’s been a while and several pounds since he cut to 170. And I don’t think he would “destroy” him; but a win would still hurt the image there I suppose.
However Fedor is hardly the only one of the list that could pose a risk to Silva. Just the fact that you have such a biased view of Fedor demonstrates a huge flaw in your logic.
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sorry
my opinion
Why is my view of Fedor biased? Because he’s beaten every man he’s fought?
I would love to see the two greatest fighters of my lifetime fight each other, that’s all.
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I love Anderson but to say GSP wouldn’t be a difficult match-up for him and have a very real shot of taking the Spider down and controlling him on the ground is silly.
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
Oh, I think he'd take Andy down.
GSP has the best takedowns I’ve ever seen.
I just think he’d get Luttered.
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
For the record
I do think GSP is the third best fighter in the world behind Fedor and Andy.
The gap is as wide as the Grand Canyon, though.
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
finally someone that thinks logically. GSP stands no chance against Silva.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
What matchmakers? Ed Soares and Anderson Silva? Because they’ve been picking and choosing who they fight for the last 9 months.
Anderson signed to fight Belfort, and Maia for that matter. If he felt it was beneath him, he shouldn’t have taken the fight. Instead, he decided to waste the fans’ time and money.
Really??
I love GSP but I’m afraid that Silva’s size would be too much for GSP to overcome. On the flip side of that, if you’re really a silva fan you don’t want to see him in the cage with Carwin or Brock!! Both guys are way too big for Silva and I don’t think there is much silva could do once Brock takes him down. If you have ever wrestled against someone with world class skills you know how tough it is to get up once they are on top of you and Brock being about 80lbs bigger and much stronger and factor in the amount of energy Silva would expend being trapped underneath I really doubt this fight wouldn’t even be competitive.
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by Cory Braiterman on Apr 12, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
What about Rampage Jackson? I think he has the power to knock anyone out, let alone Anderson.
by samuraisul on Apr 12, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
agreed
Rampage could give Andy a fight. Quinton isn’t a scared little pussy who will continuously run like a bitch.
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Love Rampage but the Slamless UFC version that boxes his opponents and uses his boxing to counter strike for a big punch would get absolutely toyed with by Anderson.
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
Didn't say he wouldn't
Just pointing out that he would actually fight Anderson
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW
Are you really on the Sonnen bandwagon? I was wondering who the guy was that liked Sonnen.
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I honestly think Sonnen is hilarious. I’m a huge fan of Sonnen the character and as a fighter I was pretty impressed with his wins over Okami and Nate.
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
Right there with you.
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by a tommy point on Apr 13, 2010 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
But I tend to agree with Donna that Dana is too petulant and vindictive to do the right thing
Wow. Talk about putting words in her mouth.
by PM23 on Apr 12, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
in before
“something else” in her mouth jokes.
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by Cory Braiterman on Apr 12, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
have to agree there
Dana is too stupid to see the goldmine in front of him.
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, right?!
Nate rules, but one thing we’ll never agree on is Dana White. I actually like the guy.
Badr Hari, please!
It seems clear to me that Anderson Silva isn’t interested in MMA anymore, as much as he is in possibly K-1. Having said that, I’d love to see him fight Badr Hari.
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by midwestbred on Apr 12, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes! Thank God someone else sees the potential for fireworks with this fight! Can you imagine those 2 in a K-1 match? It’d be like those early 90’s Jean Claude Van DAAAAMMNNN! movies..lol
Hari
would absolutely shit kick Anderson. In fact, most K-1 heavyweights would. Andy might stand a chance against guys like Manhoef or Spong, who are closer to his size, but I think the K-1 rules take away one of his greatest weapons in the standup game- knees from the thai plumb.
Also, Anderson has excellent elbows, and K-1 doesn’t allow those eithers.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 12, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is exactly why I'd pay to see Hari/Andy in a heartbeat.
Basically, if Anderson Silva is trying to be a ‘heel’, then yes, I’ll pay to see Badr walk in and kick the crap out of him all night.
Realistically
when was the last time we’ve even seen Anderson rely on the Thai plumb?
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Silva was fighting Maia, arguably the best BJJ fighter in the UFC, and the difference between their skill levels was a joke.
Am I the only person who thought this was stupid? Of course he looked like the greatest striker in the history of the world against a fighter who pretty much relies completely on his BJJ.
by Toolshed on Apr 12, 2010 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
You’re not the only one. I think discounting Demian because he makes his bread & butter in BJJ is a little uncalled for.
by samuraisul on Apr 12, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Recs to both of you.
Though, I’d say it’s more than a little uncalled for. It’s embarrassing that so many analysts, bloggers, etc, are glossing over that very fact.
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by a tommy point on Apr 13, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
As opposed to his other fights when his striking looks pedestrian? Anderson has proven to be head and shoulders above every fighter he has been put up against.
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
That’s just plain not true. He didn’t look “head and shoulders above” Henderson, in fact one could make the argument that Hendo was winning until he made a mistake.
if one made such an argument
one would be very, very wrong…
first round was all Hendo, no questions and no damages.
second round was all Silva, no questions and all damages.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
You’re wrong. Hendo was winning until he lost his balance and Silva capitalized some where around 2 minutes left in the round. Once they got to the ground Hendo threw a wild elbow which allowed Silva to advance position and got choked out with 10 seconds left in the round because of it.
I guess we’re not going to agree on this, but damage wise, who do you think had the upper hand?
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
orcus is right
dan was never a threat to silva. he got him down in the first but literally was able to do nothing. re-watch it, that’s the definition of lay n pray. landed approx. on hammer fist and one extremely short elbow. he progressed to half guard and anderson immediately moved it back to guard. end of the round.
the second round dan didn’t lose balance or try to stand up with silva. he tried to take silva down and couldn’t.
even when dan had silva exactly where he had to get him, where we all thought silva would be vulnerable, hendo did NOTHING. silva shut him down. honestly, lutter looked light years better against silva than hendo did. hendo had exactly nothing for silva.
i've seen it
and i re-watch it everytime someone tries to make this argument. i can literally break it down by the clock if you want. i’ll give dan the first round for positional dominance, but he did nothing to hurt or wear silva out. he smothered. that’s it. and in the second round, silva didn’t let him.
Well you need to re-watch it about 50 more times. If you really think Hendo was LnPing i’d love to hear about your opinion on Rashad vs Thiago Silva or GSP vs Hardy.
i’ll give gsp credit for actually locking up a kimura on hardy. hendo didn’t lock a sub on silva, or even ATTEMPT a sub. he attempted a hammerfist and a short elbow. he had silva down for over three minutes. you have a guy down for over three minutes and attempt approximately one short strike per minute, that my friend, is the very definition of lay n pray.
You’re being silly. Here’s what Compustrike says:
Round 1: Cautious beginning to the fight as b oth were sizing each other up. Henderson was able to score a takedown which led to 33 ground strikes, most of which were hammer strikes to Silva’s head.
Round 2: Fairly even until around 2:40 into the round when Silva landed Muay Thai knee. Silva was 61 for 79 in total strikes in round 2, including 33 ground strikes. Silva was able to get Henderson’s back which led to the Rear Naked Choke.
I can agree with this, why can’t you?
because a hammerfist from an inch away from the head isn’t a real strike. it’s a means of looking busy while maintaining top position. it didn’t damage silva, it didn’t move the fight closer to an end. it proved how scared hendo was of doing anything real and risking losing position. and proved how well silva was at nullifying hendo’s top game. i’ll admit i was being stingy with how many short strikes hendo threw, but i’m not being stingy in when i say they did no damage. that was supposed to be hendo’s chance to win and he got shut down.
It’s hard to land power punches on BJJ blackbelts who are completely focused on controlling your posture, more news at 10.
If you’re going to ignore the several flurries of power punches Dan landed, well, I don’t know what to tell you.
several flurries of power punches Dan landed
lol. what fight was this?
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 13, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
At 4:08 left in the second round Silva lands a leg kick and Henderson punishes him for it with an overhand right, left hook, right hook, right uppercut combo. This is one of about 3 or 4 good flurries that Hendo landed, I can go back and get timestamps for all of them if you want to pretend they didn’t happen.
I guess Maia punished Silva too.
I can give you time stamps for each flurry that he landed also.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 13, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm done
You’re right, Joe Rogan is calling out combos that aren’t happening.
Hendo wasn’t blocking most of Anderson’s strikes.
Hendo didn’t push Anderson up against the cage and knee him repeatedly, and one flurry from Maia on an Anderson who is literally running away is the same thing as Hendo countering a leg kick.
where did all those words come from? I know that wasn't from my mouth.
haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 13, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
You basically said Dan didn’t land combos which he obviously did. Then you compared Dan Henderson combos to Demian Maia combos. I’m not sure what your point is, but i’m sure it’s stupid.
several flurries of power punches Dan landed
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 13, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
he covered silva's mouth and threw the tiniest hammer fists ever invented.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 13, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
toolshed
you can’t just assume someone hasn’t seen a fight just because they don’t see it the same way you did, it’s pointless arguing with you if you’re going to resort to those types of replies.
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by Orcus on Apr 13, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The difference between GSP and Silva is that GSP apologizes after every one of his performances.
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let's be fair
Silva did too, but he didn’t mean it :p
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and as much as i hate to say it
which is worse. a top fighter who literally can’t finish his overmatched opponent, or a top fighter who obviously can finish his, but doesn’t try, because it’s so obvious he doesn’t need to. gsp wins fan friendly points, silva wins badass points.
Uh huh
A pro wrestling guy is calling UFC fans “moronic.” Right. Go back to the land of make believe. Here is some WWE terminology for you: This isn’t heat. This is X-Pac heat.
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by Jesse Holland on Apr 12, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Bullied? You mean when Henderson was able to grapple him to the ground and lay in half-guard for 2 minutes? That’s bullying?
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by Day Man on Apr 13, 2010 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In pro wrestling terminology, this is textbook “heel champion” behavior, and a formula that has worked for years.
I think Gorgeous George said this best: " “A lot of people will pay to see someone shut your mouth. So keep on bragging, keep on sassing and always be outrageous.”.
Orcus and I have gone over this same point on previous articles, people may be claiming they won’t watch Anderson anymore, but put him against someone they think has a chance to teach him a lesson and watch him become a major draw.
I think hes honestly starting to enjoy the “heel” role. Maybe thats why he refuses to apologize after.
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by Silky Johnson on Apr 12, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Really Dude????????
Really???
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by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Holy shit I’m confused now…gotta look at poster names to differentiate commenters.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 12, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
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by midwestbred on Apr 12, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
An ironic comment
coming from Silky Johnson, the player hater of the year.
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Go Gonzaga! G-O-N-Z-A-G-A
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 12, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
See:
Lesnar, Brock
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
or Mur, Frank, and BTW I hate ur name lol jk but I disagree cuz I was Hater of the Year 2002 son!
"Rosie O'Donnel. She wears underwear with dick holes in em."
by Silky Johnson on Apr 12, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Mir is missing the most important ingredient that a "heel" needs
One that made Mohammed Ali the greatest of all time (people forget that most of the country despised him for most of his career) and that is win.
by John Nash on Apr 12, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who's that?
Oh you mean BROCKLESNARRRRRRRR
by rampage.yo on Apr 13, 2010 3:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Well, Orcus is also under the impression that Anderson would beat Fedor, so I would take his opinions with a volvo-sized grain of salt.
by Tim the Enchanter on Apr 13, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
At least I'm not alone
Orcus I completely agree…I see Anderson picking Fedor apart….
Not sure if he would finish Fedor but I would think that’s a bad match up for Fedor imo
by longevity on Apr 13, 2010 3:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He should have to run a fucking gauntlet match with all ten of them in succession. For free on SpikeTV of course.
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
If he started with number 1, he wouldn’t get too far down the list.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
Good point. We need to fix the order of entry.
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Frank Mir
2. Overeem
3. Lil’ Nog
4. BROCKLESNAR!
5. Fedor
6. Bones
7. Cain
8. Shogun
9. Machida
10. Mousasi
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I sincerely apologize sir, im new to this site and now I have to make a new name!
"Rosie O'Donnel. She wears underwear with dick holes in em."
by Silky Johnson on Apr 12, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHA
Its all good dude. Too fucking funny. Great minds brother, great minds.
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly!
keep an eye out though I think you will like my new one to.
"Rosie O'Donnel. She wears underwear with dick holes in em."
by Silky Johnson on Apr 12, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I will be on the lookout.
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Im sure Silva would love to fight any of those guys (for the money). They all have the capability of being in the headlining fight of a big card. Silva on the other hand, should not headline even a free show at this point. I thought all along that it was strange for the UFC to use Silva as the main event for 112 and not BJ.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
Real list::
1. Fedor
2. Fedor
3. Fedor
4. Fedor
5. Fedor
6. Fedor
7. Fedor
8. Fedor
9. Fedor
10. Fedor
so very very funny.
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
by WeaponElDeem on Apr 13, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Time and again, the vast majority of the viewing audience rants and raves about how Anderson Silva is a mockery of a fighter, a no-good coward, or some similar nonsense. Yet, time and again, he comes back and dominates and the same complainers come back, hoping someone beats him. In pro wrestling terminology, this is textbook “heel champion” behavior, and a formula that has worked for years, What no one ever seems to mention is that Silva is out-of-this-world good.
Really? No one ever mentions that? Please don’t tell me that this Luke Thomas fellow gets paid to say things like
Reading comprehension fail.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 12, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I was confused by the structure of that part of the article. I don’t know why he throws in this Luke guy’s opinion right in between that paragraph. But whoever did right that article is pretty uninformed.
wow did I just say right instead of write? gonna go put in my contacts before I come off as a complete and total moron.
is that Demian Maia’s head on a chicken body?? greatness.
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
by WeaponElDeem on Apr 13, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL. thanks man, this one made my day.
by HappyLittleTreez on Apr 13, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Confusion as to who said it aside, I agree that it’s an incredibly moronic thing to use in an attempt to bolster his argument.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Apr 13, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
1) Fedor
2) Shogun
3) Badr Hari
4) Rampage
5) Mousasi
6) ‘Bones’ Jones
7) Vitor Belfort
8) Frank Mir
9) Cain Velasquez
10) Cheick Kongo
my poorly written two cents
would love to see him take on fedor, gegard, or alistair, but i don’t see any of those happening in the foreseeable future, for a myriad of obvious reasons. they need to address this issue before he fights at middleweight again, don’t they?
the fight that makes the most sense would be shogun, if he gets past machida. but much like the gsp fight… i think they’ll be too leery for him acting looney tunes in their “superfight”, to risk spending all the energy and money promoting it. the only way i wanna see him fight gsp or the 205 champion is if the belts aren’t on the line.
of the ten you posted, the matchup i’d like to see most would be brock, simply for the spectacle of it. but… i also can’t see that fight happening anytime soon. wouldn’t be fair to the other guys in line for title shots. unless they cave and do velasquez/dos santos… but i don’t know that they’re will to do that, just to cure anderson of his “boredom”.
so if you cross off the guys he trains with and won’t fight… that leaves us with jones, mir, and cain. don’t know that they’ll risk derailing jones’ momentum, nor cain’s.
so that leaves mir, which is actually a really intriguing fight to me. and since he’s got nothing on the horizon, and both fighters have expressed an interest in it, i say book it.
then in the meantime, have belfort and sonnen fight for the #1 contender spot at middleweight, and hope that sonnen comes out on top, and is ready to unleash an unholy barrage of trash talk, that will sucker fans into paying for another mw title defense, against a fighter silva SHOULD be able to crush.
Silva screwed himself out of any big money fights by dicking around.
Why should he be rewarded for his behavior? What kind of precident would that set?
Stick the guy on fight nights at middleweight until he turns 40. I’ve had enough of his shit.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
I like things that don't make sense.
by Ubernoober on Apr 12, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Give him El Conquistador because Jorge is the man. WHAT!
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT!
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Quoi?
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep, giving him big money fights to keep him “interested” or whatever is a joke, if he doesn’t respect the fans or the sport enough to give 100% every time he’s in there, no matter who the opponent is, then he doesn’t deserve to have his ass kissed by the UFC.
by ufc4 on Apr 12, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Silva could have had his GSP fight. GSP was 20 feet away, ready to challenge Silva. Silva would have made millions of dollars from the PPV, endorsements, sponsorships…
Nope. Instead he did his dance routine, and ruined any chance he has of making money for the rest of his career over some vauge disrespect. that nobody noticed.
Slow clap for Anderson Silva everyone! the man is a genius!
Keep Firing, Assholes!
I like things that don't make sense.
by Ubernoober on Apr 12, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
They are waiting for the value of the dollar to go up so they can make a bazillion dollaz?
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 13, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
No...
you sir are a genius of blogging commentary. You’re also an artist just like Prince. Many don’t understand you and they shouldn’t even try because you’re a genius who can’t be challenged by mere mortals.
(I will rec your comment.)
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 13, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
You damn well they aren't going to really "punish" him
If anything the UFC has shown over the years is that they are good at making money and there is no way in hell there aren’t going to find a way to spin Silva’s behavior into a big fight. Maybe they book him against a HW to “teach him a lesson” or let him keep acting out and put him against Chael or GSP to rescue us from this jerk, but whatever happens they aren’t sticking him on a crappy European card in hopes that no one sees him.
by John Nash on Apr 13, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
^this, obviously
“Hey guys, we have the most talented fighter of all-time, lets ice him because he acted out. What’s that about shit-tons of money to be made? Oh, no… we’re good.”
Honestly, if Silva/GSP, hell even Silva/Fedor in a magical world, could happen and it didn’t because Dana White and some fanboys like me were pissed, I’d personally take my guitar to fucking Vegas and smash it over Dana’s head Jeff Jarrett-style.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 13, 2010 4:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
But beyond that, MMA fans really need to stop complaining and start appreciating, because you’re not going to see many fighters this good in your lifetime. Appreciate the master’s art.
It’s hard to appreciate Silva when he pulls a Zoolander. Also, MMA fans have a right to complain when their time and money is wasted cause the star is having a temper tantrum in the cage.
I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP
by pud333 on Apr 12, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
He built a center for kids who can’t read good?
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva told Maia in Portugese:
“You can dere-lick my balls”
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
exhibit A
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Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Apr 13, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Silva took his reputation...
…AND THREW IT ON THE GROUND!!!
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Plan B?
http://www.mma-core.com/images/fights/full/Fedor_Emelianenko_vs_AndreiArlovski_1000070.jpg
"For your information, I would like to ask a question."
-Samuel Goldwyn
Skin that smokewagon
and see what happens… I said “THROW DOWN BOY!” — are you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?
by baswoot on Apr 13, 2010 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fuckin awsome
sometimes when I’m posting on this site I feel like I’m playing cards with my brothers kids. Anderson is a dick and a diva however, he is the best fighter on the planet. The only one on the above list that I don’t like is Brock for a fight Andy might bite off more than he can chew with that one.
by doonerthesooner on Apr 13, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Call it what you want but this both amused and shocked me. In a sport where you can get KTFO, one competitor is confident enough in a title fight to put his guard down and taunt his opponent with absolutely no fear of the consequences. Who is the last figher who’s done that in a championship fight?
Being overrated is overrated.
Agreed, and what is there to really appreciate anyway? I haven’t seen this “master” practice his “art” in 3 of his last 4 fights, it’s not like we’re missing anything.
If someone wants to watch a true master, they should watch Fedor or GSP. They don’t fuck around.
I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP
The thing is, though GSP and Fedor (and BJ) are masters, they just aren’t the artists like Anderson. There is something poetic and perfect about the way Silva moves. Like he’s part alien and part animal and part human. Anderson makes his opponents look like they’re wading through a swamp.
GSP is great in that he uses incredible drive and poise athleticism to overwhelm his opponents, and Fedor seems to be able to pull off wins magically out of his butt, Anderson is just different than those guys, and I agree with the article, that Anderson is the type of guy I feel lucky to be able to witness, despite his being a total jack-ass half the time.
That`s just your bias though. I remember after UFC 100 BE had a guest post by a wrestling guy that described GSP`s performance with exactly the same kind of reverence you use to describe Silva.
There`s nothing really indicative in either opinion. It`s just preferences. Art is completely subjective.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 13, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
"Art is completely subjective." - I hate that thinking.
If art is truly subjective, then someone shitting on your doorstep is as artistic as the works of Shakespeare or The Godfather – there’s no inherent value, making them inherently equal.
Mind you, this has nothing to do with whether you like it – that’s a personal decision. If you like watching campy horror films or reading trashy romance novels, so be it. Personal preference is completely subjective, absolutely.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
No, i agree. I was speaking merely on preferences.
Art can have inherent value or levels of quality.Completely agree. But when you have to subjects of equal value, that`s when subjectively rules all.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 13, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah – gotcha.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, of course art is somewhat subjective, but it isn’t completely subjective. And I get why a wrestler would worship GSP’s ability to takedown etc, but it’s incredibleness is in it’s speed and explosion and athleticism (and yes technique, but the prior characteristics make it what it is). Anderson’s is Art. He moves like an inhumanoid. Like there’s a panther in his geneology two generations away. The way he dodges other fighter’s attempts simply defies explanation other than somehow he was born to fight people. There is an artistry there. Like Ballet and the Symphony. GSP just doesn’t compare the same way.
could we of gotten 10 realistic fights??? There is no way these will happen Fedor, Brock, Cain, Nog, or Overeem.
Chuck -350
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 12, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, man. I hear he really can’t get out of his contract.
by samuraisul on Apr 13, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I just hat the “Anderson just needs to be challenged” defense. You are a champion, the challenge is to defend your title no matter who stands in front of you.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
Apparently that's because you're a moron
See, if Michael Jordan would have starting shooting only half court shots and played most games blindfolded while insulting the other players mothers, it would have been the NBA’s fault.
Only an idiot would think otherwise.
What? You don't think he should be rewarded?
Every time a baby throws a tantrum you should give them what they want. Even if they haven’t finished their vegetables.
Seriously
How is GSP not on your list? The winner of that fight would be crowned almost undeniably as the GOAT (so far) of this sport. It’s by far the most important fight that Silva can be in. Maybe tied with a Fedor fight.
And i really do have to challenge this notion that Silva is indisputably the most talented fighter ever… Is his striking better then GSP’s wrestling or Penn’s BJJ? I don’t necessarily think you can answer that question credibly. Personally i’m more impressed with GSP and BJ considering how they came to be masters of their respective best strengths. And then when you consider that GSP and BJ are also some of the best strikers in MMA that’s even more impressive. Does Silva have a secondary talent on the same level as GSP or BJ?
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 13, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
well... yeah.
aside from being arguably the best striker in mma he’s also a bjj black belt with submission wins over big names. he also has brilliant game plans that have allowed him to dispatch difficult challenges rather quickly and keep less challenging opponents from even touching him. i’d say he’s easily as well rounded as bj or gsp, but with the advantage of having the best stand up game. which considering all fights and rounds start on the feet, gives him a huge advantage.
and truth be told, as much as i love bj, i’m over hearing about his bjj game. when was the last time he managed offense from his back? it’s like matt serra, he seems to be so happy with his standup he’s completely abandoned his bjj.
Wow, you heard it here first...
If you take issue with Silva’s behavior last night, you’re a moron.
by Razzel on Apr 13, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
yea wtf?
there is no question the guy is out of this world good but that does not excuse his behaviour… there are countless ways silva could conduct himself without his selfish antics. he wants money and big fights but shits on the two sources that make it possible in the UFC and fans…
hell he could have at least treated like the leites fight and left the unsportsmanlike stuff out of it. he doesnt have to search for the KO if he doesnt want to but why alienate all your fans with the over the top crap?
does the guy need to be challenged? YES
does this mean he can basically give a big F.U. to the UFC and the fans? NO
for some reason ppl are lumping multiple issues into one and somehow excusing anderson for that display because he’s too good for his division…
i have a hard time understanding the stance that ppl are morons for taking issue with what they saw by silva. as off most sentiments right now that would make the vast majority of UFC’s fan base a moron?
I don't know how Dana can justify putting Silva in big fights...
He is completely unreliable as a main event fighter.
Which brings me to my next point: Dont Smoke Crack.
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 13, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I would like to see Silva vs:
1 Chris Leben
2 Michael Bisping
3 Dean Lister
4 Thales Leites
5 Kendall Grove
6 Ed Herman
7 Jeremy Horn
8 Kalib Starnes
9 Charles McCarthy
10 Steve Steinbeiss
Keep Firing, Assholes!
I like things that don't make sense.
by Ubernoober on Apr 13, 2010 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
One after the other, in that order, until he retires please.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
I like things that don't make sense.
I want to see Anderson against the worst possible competition that can be legally put on. See how he reacts to that.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
I like things that don't make sense.
The problem is that he ruins the other fighters’ chances of advancement. There’s almost no way he loses, so if he takes on the crappiest competition possible, he’s mucking up the title picture. No one benefits from it.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what I'm saying lol
He would have a 21-0 UFC record against the worst possible competition. Just wondering what that would even mean.
Would they put an asterisk next to his record in the books lol?
They haven’t put an asterisk next to Fedor, so no, Silva would be the greatest MMA fighter ever, even though much of his victories came from complete trash opponents.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What kinda odds can I get on Art Jimmerson?
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 13, 2010 4:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anderson Silva vs. Kyle Maynard
…Anderson by Unanimous Decision.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 13, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
I would as well, but I’m hanging the noose as we speak just because of some of the terrible commentary we’ve seen spawn from these topics…would-be analysts coming out of the wood work, Kid Nate hate posts, and people who make some of the most idiotic “points” have driven me absolutely bonkers.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 13, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Somebody Poisoned The Waterhole!
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 13, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
toy story references will always get a rec from me.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 13, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The first scene from Toy Story 3 has been released.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
There is a 3?
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 13, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
When Toy Story first came out I was about 5, and now this next one wont come out till I’m 21 and you can bet your sweet ass I’ll be in the front row laughing obnoxiously and puffing a cigar on opening day.
"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"
I won't be laughing.
I will be enjoying it. (I’m serious.. Toy Story is serious business)
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 13, 2010 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I will have to watch that as soon as I get home.
thanks.
figures that you’re the guy who links it to me, same age bracket and all. haha :)
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 13, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Pixar uber alles. (WALL-E is my favorite by them)
I’m also an obsessive movie fan. While everyone is jazzed about Avatar’s 3D, I can’t wait for the Werner Herzog 3D film about Chauvet Cave. Chuck Norris pounds nail through 2×4 with his fist; Werner Herzog does it with his dick.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a Twitter joke joke started by Roger Ebert. Herzog is a legendary director & close friend of his. He’s also batshit insane – when shot during an interview, he refused to call the police, saying it would be “overreacting…it is an insignificant bullet”. He also dragged a riverboat over a Peruvian mountain and once pulled a gun on his lead actor (who was equally insane). He will do anything to make a movie, and his body of work is exceptional.
For the record, I have seen a guy nail his dick to a board (safe link) (just the footage, though, not live).
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I had Woody pillows when I was five.
It’ll be interesting watching 3… doesn’t Andy go to college in this one?
Wall-E was good but I’ll take Finding Nemo.
Have you seen Grizzly Man? The narration is hilarious.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 13, 2010 4:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Grizzly Man was excellent. I love how WH has no discernible humor to his voice, so half the time you wonder if he’s putting you on.
Finding Nemo never appealed to me. I just didn’t like any of the characters.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He also ate a cooked shoe and walked from Munich to Paris (afoot).
Have you seen “My Son, My Son, What Have You Done”?
I wonder how collaboration with Lynch worked out.
by dancingChicken on Apr 13, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t stand Lynch. He’s brilliant with visuals, but he can’t tell a story, so I never get the feeling that his films go anywhere – they do what they want as though my presence is irrelevant, so what’s the point? I’d totally want him as my cinematographer, though.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, his movies are chaotic, too much “qui pro quo” to follow the stories. But I’m curious how this collaboration worked out.
by dancingChicken on Apr 13, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
For all his insanity Werner is a pretty cool guy. Had a chance to hang out with him briefly while he was promoting “Rescue Dawn”. Best advice, pretend you don’t give a shit about his movies, he appreciates that. I spent the whole biting my lip because I wanted to talk about “Aguirre: The Wrath of God” so badly.
I’ve seen so many interviews with him, and he seems completely unphased by all the attention. He truly does his own thing.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 13, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva could spit in the face of a mentally challenged 5 year old, and people on here would write paragraphs on how it was actually Dana’s fault.
Sorry, but I’m in the line of thought that if Dana put the mentally challenged 5 year old in the ring with Silva, then it’s Dana’s fault to begin with. Especially if you could just, you know, take Silva off the card.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, if he was presented with that match up, he really should just kick the kid in the face and go on home. Not prance around gnawing at his own ear and cracking jokes at him, whilst beating him up.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 13, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for Ultimate Diabolical-ness!
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 13, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
i think the topics/articles themselves arent doing much to not spawn the pretty strong opinions. in this article, a quote that says UFC fans are moronic for not being happy about silva’s antics is “brilliant”?
based on what i’ve read here and ppl ive spoken too, i think the morons may be the large majority on this issue…
The overall point of the excerpt is pretty dead on, if you don’t get that, and just want to nit pick, then you’re just proving my initial point.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 13, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
If you agree with the article, you should just go watch WWE right now. Spectacle over sport? No thank you.
Yes, because thats exactly what the articles point is…if thats the only point you take away from the article, then you are beyond all hope.
And bitch please, “go watch WWE right now.”…thats the kind of shit I’m talking about. Much of the point the article made was that you know what you’re going to get with Anderson if you give him undermatched opponents, and Silva is going to make a spectacle of it. The article then goes on to talk about Silva vs. GSP being a big deal…which obviously will not be about spectacle, but about giving Silva a challenge in which he will be pushed to his limits.
If you truly think I’m wrong, make me believe so, I’m listening, so if you can prove your point, prove it. I truly do not think that the article was calling all fans stupid for not enjoying Silva’s antics. Thats just not what I take away after reading it. Now, if you were biased in your opinion, I could certainly see how you could claim that and use it against someone…
I await your well thought out explanation, kind sir.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 13, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha, I almost stopped reading at “bitch please” lol. We’re not 10 year old girls….or at least I’m not.
Besides, in that long winded rambling response, the only reason you gave for agreeing with the article was that it thought Silva/GSP was a good idea. Is that it or you got anything else?
See if you read, like I do, you’ll see the article is saying A LOT more. We’ve covered that anybody who didn’t like the Silva fight is a moron, but the writer goes on to say that Silva should receive a huge marketing push as a result of his performance. He even says Silva having no shame or sense of personal responsibility is a good thing!
If that weren’t bad enough, the writer contrasts Silva’s disrespectful performance and GSP’s dominant performance, and that’s when he calls Silva’s performance one of the most entertaining fights he has ever seen, as if to prefer what Silva does to what GSP does.
Haha, sorry man, if that’s you, that’s you, and that’s why I recommended WWE as something more appropriate for your tastes. That’s just not for me though.
by Razzel on Apr 13, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I stopped reading at “bitch please,” too. I did it because I felt the comment had peaked and there was no place for it to go but down.
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by Richard Wade on Apr 13, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s exactly what’s wrong with the article, that we should consider Anderson’s personal offense to the competition he has to face as more important than him actually facing the competition. Personality > performance is bullshit.
If he were a competitor he would go out there and compete, but apparently his ego must be accommodated or we get him clowning around because he’s just too cool for school.
Exactly what other sport would you make exception for behavior like this? What if the Patriots just started running the ball backward 40 yards against the Titans in their 59-0 blowout or LeBron James started throwing the basketball into the crowd and flipping the other team off because they can’t touch his shit?
Sorry but sometimes you have to face weak competition and this ain’t little league, grow up. You can’t justify it or blame anyone but Anderson, he’s responsible for the way he fights no one else.
see i think there are 2 distinct issues though that need to be acknowledged. silva not be challenged [b]and[/b] silva downright disrespecting another professional athlete by taunting/mocking him are 2 problems
i agree he needs to be challenged but i dont think he should get a pass for his unsportsmanlike behaviour
dana putting him in that fight probably shouldnt have happened. if it resulted in a snoozer then thats his fault (ala the leites fight). but to say anderson taunting/insulting maia is dana’s fault is a bit of a stretch
mismatched fight not testing silva = dana’s fault
silva showing a complete lack of professionalism and class = silva’s fault
I agree that it’s a door that swings both ways, Dana shouldn’t have to worry about a fighter doing the things that Silva did in the ring happening…but he put himself in a position where it was likely that Silva would do SOMETHING.
What came first, the chicken or the egg? Either way, I think both parties took part in what became this hot topic.
"The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things." - Miyamoto Musashi
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 13, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
the door swings both ways which is why i do not agree with the linked article. dana only controls one side of the door, and playing silva’s games doesnt guarentee we get a good outcome still cause once he’s in the cage its out of dana’s control
the article says dana should be positively promoting it as silva just being too good etc in order to further promote super fights. but if he does this, he runs the risk of alienating fans even more by basically sending out the message its ok to behave like anderson did in the ring
if it was another leites type fight he could work the “he need big fights so lets make superfights” angle to excite the fans. however, not acknowledging silva’s poor conduct/sportmanship would appear to gloss over a glaring issue for a lot of passionate fans right now
dana might be able to work the angle down the track but while so many fans are emotionally charged over this it’ll do more damage than good. i can understand how some ppl, who look at the big picture, might see it being right at this point in time, but a large majority of the fan base are angry and dana siding with them appears to be the best short term remedy
"It was likely that Silva would do something"?
It seems that people are of the opinion that Dana should have known this was going to happen all along.
Before the fight I saw alot of people prerdicting a first round knockout and some even a Maia submission win. But not a single person predicted Silva would piss arse around for 5 rounds and let it go to a decision.
Or did I miss something?
Yes
People were expecting Silva to do something at some point.
Seriously now kyfm621,
“It was likely that Silva would do something”?
That’s your argument? Dana shouldn’t have made that fight because he knew Silva would act up?
Well since he knows, he can’t even book silva anymore, against anyone, because there will always be the possibility, large or small, that Anderson disrespect everyone, and it will always be Dana’s fault.
I'm a lover not a fighter
Didnt we already see that at UFC97?
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 13, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Anderson Silva – “Kyle said he was jealous of my eight legs. I had to punish him.”
by Razzel on Apr 13, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know...
Luke was/is right about the second piece.
Before Saturday Silva was right up there with Fedor as the top fighter in all of MMA with GSP fairly close. Now, because he clowned on a BJJ standout – the same man that got knocked out by Nate Marquardt in like 10 sec. not too long ago – a vocal minority waxes poetically about how his fighting genius transcends all of MMA. To be clear, I’m a big fan of Maia, but understand his current limitations as a fighter. I also would’ve counted myself a fan of Silva’s a couple of days ago. I respect the man’s talent and his place in MMA history. He’s one of if not the best ever.
With that said, he’s not a deity. He is a bit of a “jack ass.” He can be beaten, and I predict that he will be beaten by GSP if they fight at 170. He may be beaten by someone else. It’s dangerous to build a person up like some are building up Silva right now. Did many people think Frankie Edgar could even come close to beating BJ Penn before Saturday? I’ll answer that: NO.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 13, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
- Brasilians disrespect Silva by being from the same country/speaking the same language.
- Anyone who knows the Nog’s or the Machida’s disrespect him by not thinking they know him via association.
- Anyone who knows or trains with Wanderlei disrespects him because, don’t you know, Wanderlei and him kissed and made up.
by samuraisul on Apr 13, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
- Pluto disrespected him because it thought it was a planet for awhile
by Razzel on Apr 13, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we all keep pretending this is the same as the leites fight and it isn't...
this wasn’t just him dominating and humiliating an overmatched opponent. this was also him securing a three round decision win and clearly COASTING for ten more minutes. it was also anderson behaving reprehensibly and insultingly. evidently the brazilian fans are taken aback by what he actually said in the ring and many of the rest of use were shocked enough at his body language.
this is a case of a meteoric talent that needs to be handled correctly, but it also appears that the fame and constant affirmation of god-hood may have turned silva into “piece of shit” status rivaling brock lesnar. at lesnar can make an argument he’s just putting on an act, anderson doesn’t appear to be.
Like Joe Rogan says...
Silva needs to appreciate more that people are paying money for that crap.
What does Frank Mir offer Silva in terms of challenge? I’m kind of wondering this. Sure, Mir’s striking is pretty good and he’s great on the ground. But his striking isn’t on Anderson’s level, and if Maia couldn’t get Silva to the ground no matter what he tried how will a much slower Mir do it? I suppose size alone could help significantly, but I don’t exactly remember Mir having a fantastic Cain/Brock/Koscheck/etc style shoot either.
If we’re going on challenge, and you don’t want to toss Anderson a big bone we should be talking someone like Kongo. Anderson greatly out-paces Kongo in terms of overall ability but at the same time Kongo’s no slouch standing by any means. As far as I remember, we’ve never seen Kongo beaten in a long stand up fight in UFC. Kongo was dropped by Mir, but that was more of a “Where did that come from?” blow. Anderson would be facing someone who is very good at kickboxing, is bigger than him, and has more reach. Against Kongo Anderson wouldn’t be able to afford to take him lightly. Say what you will, but Kongo is aggressive. He wouldn’t take being “clowned” well at all.
If Anderson spectacularly KO’s him, well we’re good. Or Kongo drags him into a three round war and we’re still good since it was a good fight. There’s no way Kongo would allow what happened on Saturday to take place against him. He’d probably end up clinching and landing a few “accidental” revenge low blows in retaliation.
Frank Mir offers Silva a highlight reel KO for the ages.
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 13, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kongo is WAY over rated
Kongo would have been fired along time ago if he didn’t look the way he looks. A. silva would clown him. Which I am totally ok with, so book it !!! Then all the haters will love Anderson again and all will be right with the world.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
I agree with you to a point
Kong is EXTREMELY marketable. He has a giant muscled build, a cool name and good striking skills. Would he be any other fighter, yeah he prob would have been fired and god knows I’m not a fan, as his matches tend to go something like fence hug, fence hug, nut shot, fence hug, KO However, he does have relatively good standup and a man as big and powerful as he is definitely has the ability to knock Silva out or compete with him standing.
by dreamers_12345 on Apr 14, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
This is certainly a lot better than the “This is all Dana’s fault” post. And it’s true, but one thing I don’t understand is, why does Silva not want to leave middleweight and test himself at other weightclasses if he’s so bored with MW? His defendors keep saying he’s bored, and Dana was giving him a prime opportunity to leave the class and do LHW, but he didn’t do it. It makes no sense. The guy is an enigma.
If Silva truly wanted to test himself, he’d have jumped right into Demian Maia’s guard.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Apr 13, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats not a test
That is making your peace with god and committing suicide. lol That is like Maia running at The Spider with his hands down and his chin up.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
Why help Anderson Silva out?
Here’s reality, even when he’s facing somebody good he gets no buys. Pretty much any event headlined by an Anderson Silva fight is destined for less than 400k PPV buys (which is the type of buyrates that have ppl declaring the sky is falling on the UFC in the last 9 months).
And those buyrates were when he wasn’t coming off of complete shitfest performances!
This list is pure fantasyland anyhow, half those guys aren’t even in UFC, but really, screw Anderson. Why cater to him? Fans aren’t going to buy it no matter what he does or who he fights. His best selling PPV card was the one with Chuck Liddell fighting on it with him. His next best is fighting a huge fan favorite with another title fight with 2 guys people actually like under it.
Why should Dana waste his draws just to pad Anderson’s pocketbook? Anderson doesn’t give a shit about UFC, the fans, or anything but his own ego.
Let him sit on the shelf for 9 months, then he can fight Sonnen on Spike. If he doesn’t want it, then he can sit on the shelf until he gets tired of not fighting.
Could this please happen?
Scott Coker could then give us a Silva-Mousasi superfight.
That would be awesome.
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually wouldn’t be as irked with Anderson’s antics if he wasn’t logjamming a division in the big leagues. Go fuck around all day in Strikeforce, it’s not like their belts matter or their weight classes are at all coherent. Anderson vs. Fedor in a non-title HW fight? Sure! Anderson vs. Nick Diaz @ 170? Why not, we need a 170 challenger!
The more I think of it the more Anderson going to Strikeforce solves everyone’s problems. We know Strikeforce loves paying big money for guys who don’t bring in eyeballs!
yeah
nobody wants to see Fedor, Hendo, Mousasi, Nick Diaz, Melendez, Overeem, Cung Le, etc.
What?
Who cares about belts? I don’t watch for those shiny WWF-style belts. I watch for the fights.
by CaptainSpaulding on Apr 13, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep, nothing would say minor leagues more than Strikeforce have 2 of the top 3 p4p fighters and the no.1 ranked HW, MM, and LW.
by John Nash on Apr 13, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
anderson vs tito ortiz on the next undercard
this is why they dropped tito from ufc 115
possibly the worst matchup ever that noone would ever wanna see yet it would be strangely awesome
As a realistic next couple of fights, I like
1 Shogun
2 Mir
3 Bones
4 Rampage
by then maybe Dana has Mir.
Anderson vs. Tim Sylvia
They can battle for the title of most hated champion of all time, and see who puts on the shittier performance. We can grade it like golf, on low scores.
your right it is a bad comparison
syvia vs monson was a more exciting fight than anderson vs. last 5 fights.
seriously?
the anger must’ve gotten to your heads.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 13, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Silva Vs.
Cote- fun for a round or so and then Cote hurt himself.
Leites- fun for a round or so until Leites decided he wanted to butt scoot for 5 rounds
James Irvin- an absolute thrill for the 30 seconds it lasted
Forrest Griffin- A masterpiece
Maia- I haven’t laughed so much watching a fight as I did during rounds 1 and 2 when Silva was being effective. Rounds 3 and 4 were atrocious. Maia made me care in the 5th.
What have you been smoking?
Not really, the guys do it for different reasons but it’s the same end result. Sylvia would just jab and play it safe because he wanted to hold on to the title, Silva just clowns and taunts because he refuses to do anything but counterpunch.
Honestly I’d rather watch Sylvia jab out Arlovski for 5 rounds than the bullshit Anderson put on this weekend.
Now, back in his own weight class, Silva is bored and unchallenged again, so he’s gone back to his grandstanding and head games.
That’s all well and good, but the easier solution that watching him grandstand like spoiled prima donna and then coddling him by setting up superfights, is for Silva to vacate his belt as the greatest MW of all time and move up to weight class that challenges him. If he wants to hold on to the strap, he’s going to have to fight the next guy(s) in line for it, regardless of how far ahead he is talent-wise.
Thank god, the UFC doesn’t let people on the internet run their business because they’d be bankrupt by now. Leave the booking to the pro’s and now that Andy crapped out at UFC 112 he’s going to be taught a lesson and hurt in the place where it affects him the most his wallet. No more big fights for him and no more big cards, from now on until he gets his ass beat or snaps back into the killer he was he’s going to regret pulling this crap Dana will make sure of that.
UFC booked Silva-Maia, true. However, they didn’t make Anderson dance around like a friggin idiot for five rounds, insult and disrespect his opponent and lose the respect of the fans. While Maia wasn’t exactly the best possible opponent (seriously, who is?) Anderson Silva was the one who did all this to himself. If he no longer finds interest in defending his title, he should vacate it and move on. If he no longer finds interest in fighting for UFC, he shouldn’t have signed that contract extension.
Why should it be UFC’s or Dana White’s fault that their middleweight champion acts like a s**t-for-brains jackass?
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Apr 13, 2010 3:29 AM EDT reply actions
Putting words in peoples mouths and finding other jack-assses that follow his insane logic yeah thats Kid Nate. Listen AS is great and for the first three rounds I enjoyed the spectical but the last two rounds is what got me fired up. There is no excuse for what he did in the end. He if would have finished he would have got his “big money payday” fight but he did’nt. By the way who ever wrote that Cage Side Seats article please stop watching MMA we really don’t need you.
After all that's happened...
why are people still saying that the Sonnen fight should happen? Is more fodder what we need for Silva? No more one-dimensional fighters for Silva!!
Oh, and no more quotes from the Gal’s Guide. And no more talk of Silva fighting Frank — cmon.
Faber, Florian, Nick Diaz, 'Mayhem', Mousasi, Fedor
I cannot believe the excuses people are making for Silva on this blog
Like it’s acceptable that he doesn’t try when given an opponent he’s “supposedly” better than. Unbelievable.
Silva didn’t convincingly win on Saturday. The bottom line is Anderson Silva barely beat Maia at all. Had the ref deducted a point for inaction, which he easily could have, then this fight as scored by Bloody Elbow would have been a draw.
You judge fighters by results, not by “potential.” Or else Brandon Vera would be the best P4P fighter in the world. And in results, Silva has squeaked by Cote, Leites and now Maia. That’s his legacy.
And there is no, no, no way that it is Dana White’s fault that one of his own fighters deliberately sabotaged an important pay-per-view. It is not his job to account for his fighters deliberate attempts to do a crappy job.
Hey wait, what!
Anderson didn’t “squeak by” any of those fights. Leites flopped every time Andy touched him, wasn’t his fault that guy didn’t come to fight. And the Cote fight ended in the 3rd round which Anderson won the first two. Now I can’t make excuses for the Maia fight and I’m not gonna blame that on Dana White, I agree with you in the sense that If Anderson is the best fighter in the world(which he is) he should act like it. My honest guess is that he felt Damian was over matched and just got carried away with himself( that is not an apology or an excuse) it’s just what I think happened.
by doonerthesooner on Apr 13, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay, maybe not "squeak by"
Granted, Leites sucked. However, the disaster of that fight was at least partially Silva’s fault. If Leites wasn’t being aggressive, well, neither was he. The Cote fight was headed the same way before he blew out his knee.
Silva has turned into a pure counter-puncher. It’s the only way he has to finish fights. When faced with someone who (understandably) doesn’t want to run in throwing bombs, he just screws around and punches people in the leg.
Yeah I didn't understand what he was doing in his last fight at all
Was he mad that Maia didn’t run at him with his chin out and hands at his sides?
by doonerthesooner on Apr 13, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
The weird thing is, as others have pointed out ...
… in the fifth round Maia was basically begging to get knocked out. And Silva didn’t do it.
HILARIOUS
In what kind of fugged up world do we see one of the best MMA fighters of all time running away from lower ranked and out-classed fighters? Where is the logic in that? If Anderson Silva wanted to teach him a lesson, why didn’t he just run out there and punch Maia’s jaw into a fine dust with which he could make his pao de queijo?
(For those of you who don’t know, pao de queijo is one of the most delicious foods to come out of Brazil. It’s also made with BJJ Black Belt bone dust)
ANYWAY- don’t mean to rant like Reginald the Koala on American Dad, bu seriously…I don’t understand the Spider’s logic.
Please no Silva vs. Machida. It would be 5 rounds of feinting. Both those guys game is to dance around until the other guy gets frustrated, and both of them are willing to keep at that shit for a whole fight.
2 disciplined counterstrikers = nothing I want to see
by Stillberry on Apr 13, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Where was this exchange that Anderson was about to knock Maia out ???
I don’t like the show boating, but it was tactical (I am not sure if he was really mad at Demian). He is a counter striker, he was trying to get Demian to come at him. Demian didn’t give him anything to swing at so Demian stayed awake. As far Anderson rushing in thats when he would have gotten taken down. So he never over committed. Was it a awesome fight ? Nah I don’t think so. Do I wish Demian would " taken one of anderson’s many legs with home with him." Yes. But I feel that if Anderson doesn’t fight super cautious against a guy like Demian he will get tapped or Snapped. I feel like a submission expert has the best chance of beating Anderson and so does Anderson. Thats why he fights so cautious with high level Bjj guys.
If you put Anderson I there with a striker or perhaps someone that rushes Anderson you will get the highlight reel Ko you wanted to see on sat. IMHO. I say give him Jon Jones. I am sick of that guys hype train. Plus I am curious how Anderson will deal with Jon’s Length.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
Yeah I don't have a problem with him fighting safe, I just didn't appreciate the antics.
I did think it was real disrespectful but what can you do. He had to defend his belt that was for sure. I like him and Jones as a fight but I don’t think it would be competitive, Jones gets tagged to much with the exception of the Vera fight, Anderson would kill him and I don’t think it’s good to put a young prospect so far in over his head
by doonerthesooner on Apr 13, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Ohh and the exchange he's refering to I think
was in the fifth Damian was just winging haymakers I think Silva could have knocke him out if he wanted to
by doonerthesooner on Apr 13, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
If he thinks he has such awesome hands...
let him fight James Toney. I bet he won’t be dropping his hands and sticking his chin out then.
The idea that Anderson Silva is the best fighter of all time is so laughable that only on the Internet could you find someone that would entertain the thought.
He’s a poor man’s version of Chuck Liddell in his prime; just instead of getting knocked out when everyone figured him out, he runs away and refuses to engage.
The people who ask they Silva didn’t knock out Maia in the first or second round need to realize it’s not that he choose not to: the fact is he couldn’t.
by yukkurishiteittene on Apr 13, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions
i like:
1 Fedor
2 Couture
3 Rampage
4 Shogun
5 Mousasi
6 GSP (just wanna see him KO’d again)
7 Cain
8 Mir
9 Wanderlei
10 Vitor
Couture and Liddell
I would love to see these fights. I agree with Leeroy as well, a Wanderlei fight would be phenomenal. Basically, all of the lists we have seen are a grouping of the best fighters currently living. That is basically what we are asking for, put him against the very best in multiple weight classes.
This I remind everyone is why “Mike Tyson’s Punch Out” was so great, the main character was a tiny Frankie Edgar, expected to beat gigantic guys.
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