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Why Should We Care What Anderson Silva Is Thinking?

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Anderson Silva has defended his title three times since defeating Dan Henderson at UFC 82.  Each time, we've seen the same thing.  He dominates his opponents, but lets them hang on just so he can put on an extended show.  Each time this has happened, we go through the same charade after his fight.  Is he trying to send a message?  What message is he trying to send?  Why isn't he trying to finish?  Does he want more money?  Is he bored?

Here's a better question:  Who cares?

It strikes me as a colossal waste of time to try to figure out the reason the greatest fighter alive is throwing temper tantrums when he fights.  It really gives him too much credit to engage in this kind of guess work, and that's really what it is: guess work.  We have no valuable insight into what's going on with Anderson Silva, all we see is a carefully managed public face.  We get conflicting reports on everything related to the guy, ranging all the way from the veracity of his injury claims to salary negotiations.  He doesn't speak english, so the only quotes we get from him are short, translated answers to simple questions.  

Ultimately, the "why" question doesn't matter to me.  I don't care why Anderson Silva fought like a spoiled brat; I just don't want to see it again.  Last time Silva engaged in this kind of behavior, the UFC rewarded him with a huge fight against Forrest Griffin in the co-main event of a big card.  There's an argument out there that the UFC should force him to fight on free TV to deny him a PPV bonus.  While he certainly deserves that and worse, I think he'd put in another protest performance, and at the end of the day you end up punishing the fans.

The answer to the problem is simple.  In the past week, Anderson conceded on the issue of weight: he said he'd go down to 170 to fight St. Pierre.  According to Dave Meltzer, St. Pierre is up for the fight if Silva will come down.  This is a fight that people have wanted to see for a very, very long time.  Rather than trying to punish Silva and continuing to promote mismatches, Dana should simply go ahead and make this fight happen.  I don't know who will win, but I am sure that Silva will have to perform at his peak to beat St. Pierre at 170.  Clowning around will not be an option.

In Anderson Silva and Georges St. Pierre, the UFC has a unique opportunity.  These two have amassed (by far) the most impressive resumes in the sport over the past three years.  Both men are in their primes, and both are willing to fight.                 

Dana White is excellent at positioning himself as a man of the people.  When he loses it and starts calling a boring main event a disgrace, average fans feel like Dana is really on their side.  Jordan Breen put it well on his radio show last night: Dana makes fans feel like shareholders, and he creates a lot of good will by doing so.  Now he has a chance to put up or shut up: is the populist routine an act?  Or is he really going to give the fans what they want?

UFC 112 marked the second time fans have chanted "GSP" during an Anderson Silva fight.  Does anyone recall this kind of anticipation for any other superfight?  Fans didn't chant for BJ while St. Pierre fought Fitch, and they didn't chant for Fedor while Lesnar fought Mir.  At UFC 112, fans in Abu Dhabi chanted for this fight.  

Dana White says he's not interested in Anderson Silva.  Quite frankly, right after the fight, neither was I.  But I can assure you that there are a number of people interested in seeing him lose.  If the UFC puts on a show with another Anderson Silva mismatch on top, it will bomb.  But if they put him against someone that fans truly believe in, they will tune in en masse to see what happens.

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Fuck that, Anderson wants to fight at HW? Let him move up and take on Frank Mir. I was gonna say Dos Santos but I doubt they’d fight each other, Mir is the next best option.

by ufc4 on Apr 11, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Please no BJJ guys. I don’t care how big Mir is. A match against CV I can get behind.

by The Darkness on Apr 11, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re holding Cain out for the title shot. Only other guy I could think of would be Kongo but I think Mir has a better chance of beating him.

by ufc4 on Apr 11, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO NO, Move him up to LHW.

I say move him up to LHW, there’s s crop of talent in the division. WW are too small and there isn’t enough depth in the WW division.

He’d be all bones at 170 lbs

"I'm Nobody's FanBoy" - higgledy-piggledy

by higgledy-piggledy on Apr 12, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson Silva vs Al Turk on the undercard of the TUF 11 Finale.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Rome is on a roll tonight

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

He's on a gravy train with biscuit wheels.

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there’s a shit cloud comin’! run for your lives!

by woooburn on Apr 11, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Silva gets Munson’d.

Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo

by ANance on Apr 11, 2010 10:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The UFC really should sign Braulio Estima to fight Anderson Silva next, or wait, no, no they shouldn’t.

by The Darkness on Apr 11, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm glad you wrote this.

No one should give a shit why Silva did what he did aside from just being curious. It’s irrelevant to the situation. If I were Dana, I’d have a hard time allowing him to move down and fight GSP. I’d kind of like to see him fight Sonnen. I think Sonnen will do his best to promote the fight, but I’d certainly like to see Silva eventually take on GSP. I like GSP in that fight at 170.

by Cannon Jacques on Apr 11, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Well about the Forrest running from the octagon , was it even a question ? To me it was damn clear there was a Sopranos re-run that Forrest wanted watch…either that or he was humiliated worse than ever and wanted to go home…

by JoelMan on Apr 12, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It makes no difference why he did what he did. Whether or not someone wants to delve into the inner recesses of Silva’s mind is up to them. My point is, and was, that Anderson Silva is not justified in clowning and coasting because he’s frustrated with the matchmaking. Maybe, I wasn’t clear with what I said, but you took it out of context. Wondering why Silva is acting out like he did may have its merits, but using whatever his state of mind was during the fights with Maia, Cote or Leites as an excuse for his actions is just absurd.

by Cannon Jacques on Apr 12, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

why reward his actions

give anderson a free spiketv fight at HW and thenbook the GSP fight at WW 8 weeks later. let us see if he is the best

by WRContracting on Apr 11, 2010 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with you. The whole thing is just weird, but Andy’s going to do things his way, and until someone else is capable of fighting with his skill, we’re stuck with it. So I think Dana should really just suck it up and try to beat Anderson by booking the hardest fights possible, regardless of weight class. Start with GSP, then Shogun, Rampage, Kongo, Mir or whoever. Anderson marches to his own beat, and clearly doesn’t care about anything business related. He just wants to develop as a fighter, and do things his own way. The sporting concepts of weight classes, cleaning out divisions, regular title defenses, are all transcended by Anderson, regardless of what the UFC or the fans want. If they book him against another grappler who can’t get inside on him, it’s just going to be a theater of the absurd clinic again. Maybe Anderson will bust out some Drunken Boxing, or do some kind of Butoh inspired, interpretive dance punctuated by punches and kicks.

by Kwisatz Haderach on Apr 11, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t know how many times Silva or someone from his camp have said they just want big fights, interesting fights. He has performed well when he thinks the fight matters. Just match him up with huge fights. Showcase him. You cannot treat someone with his skills as just another fighter.

I think it was Goldberg who brought up Michael Jordan shooting free throws with his eyes closed. Silva is much the same. When you are the best there is, you tend to get bored or just keep dominating, ala Tiger.

by sadface on Apr 12, 2010 1:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He doesn't need to be trained, he needs to be contained

We know he’s going to do what he wants in there regardless, and feel no shame about it, so the UFC needs to avoid putting him in with name opponents and have him be one of the first 3 fights on the PPV card.

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dana White i hope your listening

this is a great idea. put him on the 1st fight of the PPV, so if its a snoozer you get it out of the way and quickly forget about it. best case he puts on a good performance and sets up the rest of the card. he definitely needs to be contained because he has become a loose canon, a liability. he signed the dotted line and agreed to fight Maia but then out of the blue hours before the fight he feels disrespected, unchallenged? he has no excuse for pulling the crap he did. Dana get your dawg on a leash!

by RevoReal on Apr 13, 2010 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who Cares

3 times is 3 times to many but he’s only screwing himself . I won’t & didn’t pay to watch Silva this time or next . It’s to bad because he is so Good. I don’t believe Dana saying he’d make it up to the fans, he said the same after the Lietes fight . Dana is full of it & so is Anderson. Who Cares ,.Next

by troquezz on Apr 11, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Dana gave us Forest vs Anderson

It’s not like he’s not trying

by Myke25 on Apr 11, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you Author. I found myself compartmentalizing the Silva/Maia fight quite simply while I just couldn’t shake Penn/Edgar. Much more interested in the fallout from that fight. Otherwise, looking forward to Silva/Sonnen, but, truthfully, looking forward to MACHIDA/SHOGUN more than anything!

by Postpubescent on Apr 11, 2010 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Silva should vacate the title.

Simple as that. He obviously could give a shit about defending the belt, and he wants to challenge himself at other weights, so let him – just don’t let him stagnate the division by holding on to a title that he doesn’t want to defend.

"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn

by lowellthehammer on Apr 11, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s not like he’s keeping the belt hostage….all someone has to do is come and take it from him.

oh wait….he’s a badass who embarrasses those who come to take it.

by BradCr on Apr 11, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying the UFC should take the belt from him, I’m saying that it’s obvious that he doesn’t care to defend it and would rather fight the best within the other weight classes. If that’s what it would take for Silva to start taking his fights more seriously than by all means I support it, but if he doesn’t want to defend the MW belt regularly than he should vacate it.

"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn

by lowellthehammer on Apr 11, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure what you want here. he fought and defended his belt yesterday.

by BradCr on Apr 11, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a theory that many other people have echoed: Silva fights bizarrely at 185 because he doesn’t feel like the competition is up to par and he’s trying to prove a point that the challengers don’t belong in the same ring as him so that he’ll get the fights at LHW and WW and wherever the hell else he wants and he’ll just keep the belt as he fights outside of the weight class.

My opinion is that Silva should be put in the most competitive fights manageable at different weight classes (GSP, Mir, Shogun, Rampage, etc.) consecutively and vacate the MW title so a champion can be crowned that will regularly defend.

"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn

by lowellthehammer on Apr 11, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

who makes the matchup’s here….it’s not Anderson. I think if he dumps the belt, it becomes totally worthless.

by BradCr on Apr 11, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before the Cote fight Silva finished all his UFC fights in the second round or earlier since then he hasn’t finished any fights at middleweight(well Cote’s knee sort of finished itself). If he was really wanting to prove those guys didn’t belong in the cage with him then he should just outclass them and finish them quick instead of playing the fool for 25 minutes. People really want to like the guy and see him get bigger and better fights but it’s getting to the point where people are just starting to not care about seeing him fight at all.

by who me on Apr 11, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

so if he doesn’t finish fights, he shouldn’t get to fight at all? I’m confused. i guess i missed the part where people are required to finish fights

by BradCr on Apr 11, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

These guys don’t get paid by the hour.

by who me on Apr 11, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you can’t even finish Maia then really how good does that make you look? If you want to look great then you finish fights not dance and run around the cage and give guys a chance to hang in there. Hell what if Silva had slipped and tore up his knee, he would of lost a fight he should of won just because he didn’t finish. Heck look at the judging we always see in MMA, what kind of guy willingly would leave his very livelihood in the judges hands if he didn’t need to? Not finishing fights makes him look worse not better, particularly when it’s so obvious that he could of pushed it early and finished that one off. He wasn’t even trying towards the end of the fight and not only is that dangerous it harms his career.

If Anderson Silva really is bored or doesn’t feel challenged then making an ass of himself isn’t going to help him move up the ladder and he should know that being as he got to where he is in the UFC by finishing fight with a real statement to start with. He finished his first 7 UFC fights but has only finished one of the last 4 since.

by who me on Apr 11, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

50-45, 50-45, and 49-46 sounds like a good finish to me. but i guess if it’s not a knockout it doesn’t count.

by BradCr on Apr 12, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

it’s like your denying reality. Did you watch the fight or look at the judges scorecards at the end?

by Infinite_Jest on Apr 12, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s just trolling.

by sadface on Apr 12, 2010 2:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i watched the fight, twice, and didnt really have a problem with what he did. it wasn’t what i wanted. i wanted him to smash Maia like i know he can, but i’m not ready to make him give up the title he earned and no one has come close to taking from him because he didnt fight the fight i wanted to see. the point i was trying to make with my last post is that finishes come in a few different flavors, not just the knockout.

it’s not trolling to state my opinion.

by BradCr on Apr 12, 2010 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t care how he finishes the fight but when you can finish and you don’t even try to then there is a problem. Heck with the way that fight went would anyone of been surprised if the judges gave Maia the last two rounds? Would anyone of been surprised if Silva had got a point deducted for running? One guy scored the Penn fight 50-45 for Edgar, it’s not like MMA judges are a trustworthy lot, if you leave it in the judges hands then you are taking a big risk.

I’m not saying the guy should be stripped and he can fight how he wants but a guy who is just in there dicking around risk having the judges screw him over. Only a moron would chose to let the judges decide his fate instead of finishing it when he could. Anderson Silva never even tried to finish that fight, he didn’t put in the effort to close the door on a guy he had beat 5 minutes in.

by who me on Apr 12, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

A Silva vs Jon Jones or shit throw him against Lesnar. I really would like to see what the fuck happens. Sure I think Lesnar probably would pound him into a mudhole but you never know with this guy SIlva. Would pay double the price of admission to watch it though thats for sure.

So it looks like Silva vs GSp at 170 is dead.

Thank god imagine if Silva made GSP look foolish like that? He would never live it down.

by p123 on Apr 11, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

but you never know with this guy SIlva

I think that’s exactly how Sonnen would put it.

by bleve_ on Apr 12, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t match him with Jones. Jonny is a great fighter, but he’s neither big enough nor quite as superhuman as Silva. It’d look bad on his resume.

by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Apr 12, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just an idea

If Dana wants to get Silva back, he would break the UFC’s no cross promotion rule, just once, to organize a three man tournament under K-1 rules where Silva fights Badr Hari in the first round, and then Silva, whether he wins or loses, goes on to face Overeem in the next round on the same night. Although unorthodox, such a structure would virtually guarantee we’d see Anderson clown around less.

by The Darkness on Apr 11, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Only if he has to fight Semmy Schilt after Overeem.

by Toolshed on Apr 12, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean Aoki vs Melendez and Shields vs Henderson right?

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha. The only one there that I really want to see is Aoki vs Melendez. In that I hope Melendez beats Aoki to a pulp.

I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP

by pud333 on Apr 11, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually agree except I hope Aoki submits Melendez to a… pretzel?

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably going to be the case. Either way, I guess we’ll get to see Aoki cry.

I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP

by pud333 on Apr 11, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Much more hyped for Shogun/Machida than either of those fights personally.

Hello. I take stuff too seriously.

by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 11, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s been a long time coming, that rematch. I am eager to see if both guys will go balls out for it, considering the tenuous nature of going to the judges.

I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP

by pud333 on Apr 11, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, if I was Dana I would just sit him out for a while. There is no rush to get him fighting again. It’s not like he has massive drawing power right now.

by j.villain on Apr 11, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec, that’s all I needed to say about this. Let’s stop with the excuses and the weak psychoanalysis.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Silva is the Man

if you are going to take the crown form a champ you push him get in his face respect there ability in the cage Silva just waiting for that fighter may be going down to 170 will help him fighting faster fighters like gsp T Silva and the big 4 down at that weight Follow us on tweeter @mmafightforce

by Rob Cares on Apr 11, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

F-it. Give him Sonnen

if Chael can’t get Anderson to fight, nobody can.

Vote Quimby

by mason_beer on Apr 11, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Vitor

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll run from Vitor

And I could see Vitor letting it happen

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

See I feel Vitor would be one who wouldn’t let it happen

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, he was very cautious with Franklin. Took him almost a whole round to throw a combination.

And that’s with a guy standing right in front of him moving forward….what’s he going to do when Silva is dancing all over the place?

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol@he'll run from vitor...

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Apr 12, 2010 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Countered to death.

by bleve_ on Apr 12, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody can make Anderson fight anymore.

He fought Irvin, went home without a scratch on him, and that has been his mission ever since.

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

man gsp would get ate up against silva

they don’t want to feed gsp to silva anyway. they know silva aint making 170 anymore, gsp could fight silva at 185. i don’t give a damn what silva did saturday i thought it was kinda funny.. real talk nobody is fucking wit silva right now

by staytrue2010 on Apr 11, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Silva easily makes 170. He fights around 190-195 or so at MW I think. His frame and size suggests that he could lose alot more weight.

Silva is not crazy ripped up at 185

by p123 on Apr 11, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great artical.

A GSP vs. Silva fight it to MMA as Mayweather vs. Pac-Man is to boxing, it would do a pretty big PPV and is a TRUE p4p fight to see who is truely the best.

"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson

by mma is #1 on Apr 11, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Pac Man and Mayweather are both great draws. Only GSP is a great draw, and Anderson Silva is a hyper skilled Tim Sylvia.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You shut your whore mouth!

Sorry I had to use my big boy text but Anderson has shown plenty of times in the past that he’s more than just a hyper skilled Tim Sylvia (shutter). Oh sure we can all laugh and high five and tickle his scrotum when he’s knocking negros out left and right, but he puts on a few infrequent performances and we’re ready to right him off completely?

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Sylvia used to KO people all the time. then he started to get really dull.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I only mean the Tim Sylvia comparison in the sense of someone that people want to see fight.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

in that case then yes it’s certianly getting to that point, but to me the difference really is a matter of competition. As soon as Anderson faces someone thats going to bring a better fight on their end, like GSP, then he’s going to put on another performance people can get behind. If these three fights had happened in succesion then I would be more likely to agree with everybody, but to me the Griffin fight gave us hope that this isn’t the Anderson we’d for sure be getting from now on.

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson Silva is 100% the new Tim Sylvia. The vast majority of MMA fan’s are tired of his excuses, and tired of these shitfest fights. Personally, I don’t want to see him fight again. I’d like to see someone take the belt from him and then they can cut his ass.

Silva wasn’t really even a draw when he was knocking guys out, this shit is inexcusable

by Jason H. on Apr 12, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

"...he’s knocking negros out left and right..."

WTF?

New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 11, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silva hasn’t KOed a single black person in his entire UFC career.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know – I just think it’s a completely bizarre statement Emcee said.

New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 11, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats because you’re taking the word “negro” literally. In that instance he meant people, but wanted to sound cool I guess…

Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.

-SC

by The Lethal Haze on Apr 11, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I now read that he explained himself down below. I thought it was obvious enough.

Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.

-SC

by The Lethal Haze on Apr 11, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hendo?

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rich Franklin?

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest Griffin?

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Chris Leben?

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rich Franklin…again?

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

A clone of Anderson Silva that is causing all the bad fighs??

"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson

by mma is #1 on Apr 11, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate Marquardt?

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Are we looking for an albinos? This is tricky…

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

KIMBO!

Hello. I take stuff too seriously.

by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 11, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

and for the finish… James Irvin?

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

This list was hilarious.

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

give him rampage. Rampage would not take that shit. He would go out banging.

Man imagine Anderson does his come on muthafucka shit.

Rampage Im blacker than him Im uglier than him Fuck You!

by p123 on Apr 11, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson Silva's never fought a black guy in the UFC

but if Anderson ever fought Rashad Evans, you’d be able to see combined forces of their showboating from space.

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant negros

as a general term for his nameless victims, I felt the word nigga would be just plain inapropriate.

Anyway ya’ll negros is gay for disagreeing with me anyway, fucking people these days with their differing opinions and shit.

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Change a few letters and the racial slur becomes non-offensive?

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should clarify

I’m not being serious.

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I get it.. That’s like what a fake emcee would act like… carry on

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't focus on the words used

focus on the meaning behind the words that aren’t to be focused on.

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is one of those say-what-you-mean situations...

I didn’t know “negros” had some other meaning. It hasn’t morphed into a colloquial catch-all yet.

New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 11, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good gravy this got more in-depth than I wanted

I was using negros as a passing term to describe the other fighters Anderson has gone up against, it was meant to be used the same way “nigga” is often passed around. All of my responses for the most part have been insincere for the sake of levity with a few of my actual feelings thrown in. I brought up how the using the word “nigga” would be inapropriate as opposed to “negro” as a means of irony. I then used the “focus on the meaning of the words which shouldn’t be focused on” as another form of an odd ball statement not meant to be taken seriously for the sheer lack of coherence.

I appoloze if anyone was offended, but it was to be a light hearted send up of racial slurs. As a black person, hard to tell over the internet I know, I certainly wasn’t trying to be offensive to my own race. I also apologize to my family for the shame I’ve brought them with these events, I know that they have been effected the most by this the most. I promise to do my best in the future as a member of the BE community to represent myself and my fellow commentors with positive and responsible commenting. At this point I cant wait to embark on this new chapter in my life and get back to fufilling my duties as a wise ass MMA fan.

Thank you all for your understanding.

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I also apologize for my spelling of apologize

apparently I had a minor stroke while typing.

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wasn't offended, just baffled.

I’d say “You’re still my negro”, but I’m from the South, where that has a whole different connotation.

New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 11, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd give you a hug

if it wasn’t for my crippling hatred of white people ;)

(that winky face really isn’t supposed to look so much like I’m coming on to you)

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t offended.
Yeah nobody asked me I know…You made me lol, it came out of nowhere.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

In some places it has

In my high school black dudes said it all the time. No one was ever outraged. Hell, some black dudes referred to white folks like that, just like an off-hand pronoun. It really lost its connotation (though, of course, non-black dudes absolutely can’t say it).

In general, words are bullshit. How come you can say “vagina” but not “pussy” though theyre exactly the same thing… like “fuck” and sex.

Epithet over, back to MMA…

We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.

by Anthony Pace on Apr 11, 2010 10:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thats what I'm saying

“Nigger” and “African American” is basically like saying the same thing!

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

:o

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh what are they gonna do

somehow prevent me from accessing my acount so I can no longer comment on articles. I’d like to see ’em try!

(did I mention I’m black so that was totally not racist, cause thats what I always tell people on the internet to get away with saying racist stuff.)

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m black AND I have black friend dude, I know what you mean.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 12, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know sometimes people just need to walk away from a conversation and this is one of those times. For goodness sake all of you just stop already.

by who me on Apr 11, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect this line of conversation will become hidden in a day or two...

New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 11, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a pretty civil convo

As far from youtube comments as you can get. We have a lot of these forums at my college where it could get very volatile, but fortunately some people realize the only way to get past foolish stigmas is to tackle them head on (i.e. talking about sex, race, etc. without vulgarity).

Good talk, see you out on the field.
/slaps your ass

We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.

by Anthony Pace on Apr 11, 2010 11:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah your right.....

I was just saying from a hardcore mma fans eyes it would be awsome and i bet most people would rather see this then Silva vs. Cheal or GSP vs. Koshcheck. (even though i would like to see that, i just think Silva would bring in more PPV’s then Josh)

"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson

by mma is #1 on Apr 11, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but GSP + Silva is something else.
It’s like a horn and horse, separated they aren’t really amazing but bring them together and you got a unicorn :o .

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or a yak.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Canucks!

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yaks are from Tibet China.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I was thinking about the other furry stuff.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moose? Bears? Celine Dion?

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those 3 mixed together would actually make for a good yak.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont see where GSP can compete with Silva anymore. GSP’s wrestling is so great because he threatens you with strikes and the moment you forget about the wrestling you are on your back.

With Silva’s length and distancing plus GSP subpar striking in comparison to the god of striking it would be very hard for GSP to stay damage free.

Surely you would expect GSP to get a couple takedowns but Silva’s length may nullify him as well. Shit Silva has a chance to sub GSP as well of his back.

by p123 on Apr 11, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Soares hire you to do PR for Silva?

by The Darkness on Apr 11, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I take it you’re not a fan of a Sonnen match-up?

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

More Knee Jerk Reactionism

So if Silva beats GSP, then what? Fighting Alves, and Fitch will be a step down, and if he beats GSP, people can always say, “well GSP shouldn’t been fighting someone that much bigger than him to begin with”? If it’s not a move to WW for Silva, and not a move to MW for GSP, what are people so fascinated in this fight?

It’s obviously a very good fight, and I’d order that PPV in a heartbeat, but I’d be far more interested in fights for Silva at LHW. There’s an endless string of interesting fights for him there: Shogun, Jones/Davis in 2 years, Jackson (if he keeps fighting), Rashad, and should they sign him, Mousasi (one of the most intriguing matchups). Even so, there’s still interest in a fight with Sonnen: a guy who could likely beat GSP himself.

I’d rather see GSP get some proper experience at MW first. I question whether or not Silva can make 170, and even so, I’d rather see him fight the big(ger) dogs.

by David Castillo on Apr 11, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

It makes no sense for the UFC to book him in fights at LHW when he has already said that he won’t fight Machida for the title.

by PM23 on Apr 11, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the solution is easy

Have Shogun win the rematch.

UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.

by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean have the judges actually acknowledge his win this time ;)

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shogun will knock out Machida by leg kicks

Then in the post-fight interview Rogan will violently hump Shogun’s limbs like a dog.

UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.

by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well even before Machida won the title, didn’t Silva say he wouldn’t fight for it because it was Machida’s division, and therefore Machida’s title to win? Or is that just something I made up in my own head?

by PM23 on Apr 11, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct, Anderson Silva has already pointed out that he has no interest in making a 205lb title run because that is Machida’s division.

by who me on Apr 11, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck if BJ would have won er if the judges would have gotten the score right we could have seen Penn Silva at 170.

Man fuck you judges!

by p123 on Apr 11, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

where is this talk of Silva at 170 coming from? What did I miss?

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

In 2 interview Silva stated he was interested in a drop to 170, like he was interested by fights at HW.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silva made an off handed quip a week ago, and everyone and their brother has jumped all over it.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weird that everyone would go off the deep end about some off-handed remark. Very strange for these parts.

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He made this remark twice :o.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s been a strange 48 hours. We all took the blue pill.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

and chased it with whiskey

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No whiskey, beer and Red Bull, half and half.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's disgusting

Only Canada could take something great like Red Bull and ruin it.

by ufc4 on Apr 11, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Canada, just me personally. I invented that abortion of a drink.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I’m concerned you represent the whole of Canada.

by ufc4 on Apr 11, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That drink could probably cause an abortion.

New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 11, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"The Abortion"

that’s what I call it.
1 part Molson Canadian
1 part Red Bull

I still haven’t gotten the taste out of my mouth.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

AY-YO!!!

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only I could green this all on my own

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that you’re drinking Molson Canadian is bad enough, but mixing with red bull is like drinking cancer.

I don't want to lick any butt. - GSP

by pud333 on Apr 11, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Four Loko

Google it. The grape flavor is the itis

We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.

by Anthony Pace on Apr 11, 2010 11:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

u drink joose too? lol

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Apr 12, 2010 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh Rogan said that if Silva won he would challenge GSP at 170 for the belt. Thats when people go off the deep end.

by p123 on Apr 11, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well there had to be a reason GSP was sitting cageside with headphones on, I can’t be the only one thinking they were gonna bring him in the cage if Silva won and looked at least halfway decent doing it.

by ufc4 on Apr 11, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Including apparently the UFC, until the Maia fight happened.

by The Darkness on Apr 11, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson totally screwed himself out of a mega payday.

I hope he’s pleased with himself.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

They where hyping up the GSP vs Silva thing right before the Silva fight. Rogan and Goldie specifically stated that if Silva won he’d face GSP and they even sat GSP up close to the octagon to get a first hand view with headphones and everything.

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don’t like the idea of the guy just jumping into a 170 title fight against the best in the division automatically not because I dont think Anderson should be “rewarded” whatever the hell that’s really supposed to mean, the guys a top caliber fighter looking for top caliber fights so giving him one is supposed to be a reward, seriously people it should be expected. You guys act like he should be subjected to fighting the niccas in the bum fight videos from this point on in his career. I just don’t think it’s a good idea for a guy that hasn’t cut weight like this in years to now not only try to make the weight in his mid thirties, but also throw caution into the wind by taking the chance of being seriously drained going up against a cardio monster.

And more importantly have we as fans forgot that we want to see this fight and it was supposed to be for us in the first place?

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Apr 11, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d prefer to see it at a catch weight because I’m not really in favor of a 2 division champ

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

This isn't a good fight for the UFC

Silva could ruin a top draw, forcing the UFC to promote him yet again in a main event, and then come out and put on another horrible fight..

The UFC needs to avoid putting any responsibility on the shoulders of Anderson Silva.

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Anderson shit on the UFC who's helped him a lot.

Anderson is the UFC’s lowest PPV selling champion.

He had two awful fights in a row. Fans were really upset. Dana set up the Forrest fight to revive his image. It works. He’s a badass again.

Then, He acts like a clown. UFC has a champ that everybody hates. Yes, Lesnar is hated but people still pay to watch him fight. UFC 116 will probably do 900k buys.

by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 11, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

It’ll be hilarious when he fights someone good, humiliates them and all of you are on here saying how awesome Anderson is negating the stupidity of the past two days

by Charles Walker on Apr 11, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Umm… no ones really denying he’s awesome. Just been showing a lack of class.

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

People are pissed because he's awesome but didn't act like it.

Round 3-5 of that fight was awful. I went from being confuse to being pissed.

by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 11, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly… classless

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Apr 11, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing peoples want his for Anderson to humiliate fools, but with his fighting, not with jazzy hands and insults during the fight.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you don’t understand why people are pissed at Anderson yet you never will so why should anyone ever bother attempting to explain it?

by Toolshed on Apr 11, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly

Bismillah
I signed up just to post on this subject, and I’ve been waiting since yesterday to have posting rights. This totally looks like someone working up towards being a heel. He is a dominant fighter without the interview charisma to become a fan favourite, but he can easily become a heel in exactly the way we’ve seen. Maybe it’s just me, but White’s comportment only made me believe this more. Then there’s the All-American Sonnen’s maneuvering coming up behind.
I also have to say that I didn’t have any of this sense of horror being flaunted here while watching Silva’s display. I actually thought it was still a beautiful display of fighting mastery despite the lack of finish and the more pedestrian latter rounds.

by Peter Hughes on Apr 11, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

welcome to the party dude

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally

It’s the most amazing face/heel double turn probably ever in MMA

by capital L on Apr 12, 2010 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

After he did this to Leites, they gave him Forrest

Anderson is probably just hoping the UFC gives him another slow white guy.

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha. Who would you give to Silva if you want to reenact Griffen fight?

by p123 on Apr 11, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tito

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ding Ding!! We have a winner! :P

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The cabeza is a big ass target. Anderson could go for the thigh punch and still clip Tito in the temple.

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, book it Dana……on the prelims of course.

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No this doesn't deserve prelim.

Tito would rush in and then get knocked out of the stadium.

Then when Silva fights Sonnen….you know the rest.

UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.

by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phil Davis?

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally got to see the fight, it sucked ass. Honestly I don’t care what he does or doesn’t do I just don’t feel the need to sit through that again. He should of finished that fight early but he didn’t and beyond that I just don’t care why, trying to figure out what he was thinking waste even more of my time than watching him goof off for 20 minutes. For a guy who fights for a PPV percentage it really seems like he just doesn’t want my money and I am fine with that. Anderson Silva can choose to fight however he wants and I can choose to not bother watching again and that’s pretty much the end of that.

by who me on Apr 11, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck we were literally what 10 minutes away from GSP coming into the cage and saying I am fighting my toughest opponent to date in Anderson Silva and it actually being true.

FUCK FUCK UFCK UFKC FOHFIHARHGH AHHHHhO

Now I am pissed at Anderson . Fuckckckckckckkcf

by p123 on Apr 11, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Rogan was drunk, Goldberg is stupid and Anderson talks whatever he wants. There would be no GSP-Silva stare down after the fight.

by dancingChicken on Apr 12, 2010 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vitor Belfort is asking for the fight with Anderson Silva on his twitter.

tweets

- dana make this happend for me and all The fans

- lorenzo make this happend pleasei want to fight anderson

- dana make this fight happend please

- guys i am very sad that i was eneable to not be fighting with anderson. but demian show a lots of respect and did good but now is my turn

by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 11, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Never thought I’d say this, but I’d rather see Chael.

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not another Brazlian. Please no more.

I wanna see GSP Silva NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by p123 on Apr 11, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Silva doesn’t deserve GSP.

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you have moved on from the Bones Jones craze and now its on to GSP?

"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."

by Earl Montclair on Apr 11, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screw that, you don’t reward a guy who bites the hand that feeds him from now on he doesn’t get big time fights at anyother weight except MW. Until he stops the bullshit, he wants to clown around and pull crap like that fine then he doesn’t get the big name ppv draws and you feed him bad style match up after bad style match up until he gets beat.

That is how you put someone in their place and after seeing Dana’s reaction there is no doubt that he’s had it with this crap and that’s all that Andy is going to get right now wrestlers and strikers at MW until his contract is done.

by Raker on Apr 11, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

nope.

MW doesn’t have too many bad style match ups in the MW division… He needs to be fighting better guys, and bigger names… if that was happening, none of this other shit would have happened… either that or at least give him someone who will actually fight before the 5th round of the fight.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Apr 11, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

But not TOO big of a name...

I don’t want to see Silva headlining any more cards.

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

→ moosin

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 11, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love how everyone assumes he did what he did because he wasn’t fighting a bigger name.

by Toolshed on Apr 11, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would imagine that if he was upset that it wasn’t a bigger name then the best way to get a bigger name would be to kill the guy he was fighting and finish early as opposed to dancing around for 5 rounds and pissing your boss and most of the fans off. I mean that is what would make sense right?

by who me on Apr 11, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m of the opinion that people just like to make random excuses for when their favorite fighter fucks up. When GSP couldn’t sub Hardy a lot of people were telling me it was because he didn’t want to break the guy’s arm. Of course they all shut up after GSP admitted his technique was bad, but still it’s pretty retarded when these things happen.

by Toolshed on Apr 11, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

well I'd say in his UFC career...

he hasn’t had HUGE fights… because MW has lacked star power… I think he should be fighting higher profile opponents, as well as people who will fight him. There is a difference between the way people fight him, and it always shows… Leites and Maia both refused to engage the fight for the most part, and had every opportunity to at the very least do SOMETHING but they didn’t… it seems to me if Anderson can win three rounds fooling around, and then coast for the last two, he should be fighting someone who would at the very least to negate that…

Rich tried to fight him, but his strengths were the same as Silva’s and not quite advanced… Leben didn’t respect him and tried to brawl him… Forrest tried to use his length and combination punching, and barely touched him.. Hendo took him down one round, and then got hurt trying to close distance in the second… Lutter took him down, and had mount, but his offense was stifled, and Silva subbed him… Marquardt got schooled when Silva hit the switch, and bashed his face…. Irvin came in to have a standup battle and got wrecked,.,.. Anytime someone comes to fight AT ALL he embarrasses them at some point, and finishes the fight…

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Apr 12, 2010 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maia wasn’t refusing to engage he was getting tagged and dropped for two rounds and Silva never even tried to finish him when he hurt him. Maia then spent the last two rounds chasing Silva raround the cage because Silva refused to engage him. This was a completely different fight than the Leites fight, hell I defended Silva for the Leites fight but this was a debacle.

by who me on Apr 12, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

this chasing Silva thing is overblown...

Maia had like one flurry… and didn’t do much else…

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Apr 12, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silva vs John Madsen. they guy will just get stuck in half guard for 15 minutes.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

I like things that don't make sense.

by Ubernoober on Apr 11, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Odd’s on Rome making this article kick ass… -10000

by moonlapse88 on Apr 11, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Rome, The Patricke Cote Fight . . .
  • Sure the first round did not have any action.
  • The 2nd round had a lot of action.
  • Note, Silva play his game . . . Cote did not employ his game or set the pace as the challenger. See Frankie Edgar for what a challenger is supposed to do.
  • The fight ended due to an injury. The fight was totally inconclusive. What, fans are pissed because Silva didn’t go and KO Cote-man with an iron chin- in the 1st or 2nd??? Ridiculous.

MY POINT:
Cote fight doesn’t compare to the Leites or Maia fight.

"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.

by VeeisAnimated on Apr 11, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t understand anything in this post

by Razzel on Apr 11, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to be reserved about Silva for the time being

I have a feeling Dana (and Anderson) will reward us greatly. Dana will bring back Kalib Starnes to the UFC and have that headline TUF 11 Finale.

It will be like a track meet in the Octagon.

UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.

by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Why does UFC keep putting him in the cage with guys with no striking capability?

Fool me thrice, shame on the idiot promoter steaming and screaming who cannot figure this out.

by bignerd on Apr 11, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Maia was a late replacement, that was supposed to be Vitor in there.

by who me on Apr 11, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

Vitor was a great match up, I still want to see that fight. Maia was an awful replacement. UFC should have seen this coming a mile away.

It’s real simple, he produces highlights against guys who like to stand. He runs, mocks and avoids confrontation against guys whose only hope is to turn it into a ground match.

by bignerd on Apr 11, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who should they of given the title shot to then? Sonnen couldn’t do it, Marquardt just lost, so who should they of picked as a replacement? Maia is the number 6th ranked Middleweight in the world, 2 through 5 were out of the picture and out of 7 to 10 that would of left Okami and would Okami of been a better or worse choice?

by who me on Apr 11, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could have shelved the match. They already had a decent enough card without a Silva title match. It’s UFC, who are they losing ground to putting the match on hold for a few months?

UFC has known about the Silva problem for 2 years now. When are they are going to start to manage it? They easily manage match up problems with other fighters without a hitch. Instead they keep marching him out there expecting a different result than are shocked when it happens again.

by bignerd on Apr 11, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s already been 8 months since he fought Griffin, I’m pretty sure Anderson doesn’t want to fight once a year.

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by midwestbred on Apr 12, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

He fought like a bitch against Cote too.

by Michael Rome on Apr 11, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cote isn’t much of a stand up fighter . . . well he looks like one in comparison to Maia and Leitas. Still Cote was more of a one trick pony with a heavy punch on his feet than a world class stand up fighter. It’s pretty easy to figure out when you look at Silva’s match ups. Stand up fighters that present a challenge and push the pace bring out the best in him. The fighters hoping to wait out and take him down with a mistake end up watching Silva just wait them out.

by bignerd on Apr 12, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be sure to start posting things like GSP fought like a bitch/pussy/coward

every time he refuses to engage a fight on the feet, since its obviously okay to fighter bash when they do something you dislike.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Apr 12, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Uhhh, because this is MMA.

by Razzel on Apr 12, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice post...

It is clearly pointless to speculate on the mindset of Anderson Silva. Who knows what he really thinks? Immediately after the fight, he apologised for his performance, yet in the post-fight press conference, he remained adamant that he had executed his game plan perfectly.

I believe we shouldn’t care because of two simple reasons: 1) We will never know, 2) Our opinions mean nothing to him.

The man who has no imagination has no wings.

by Delay No More on Apr 11, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s funny how all of this would have been avoided if the UFC didn’t fuck Dan Henderson out of his rematch. They directly caused this situation, and I find it hilarious.

by Toolshed on Apr 11, 2010 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn’t Silva refuse to fight Henderson unless he beat Marquardt first?

by PM23 on Apr 11, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the UFC told him that he had to beat Marquardt first and Hendo told them to fuck off.

by Toolshed on Apr 11, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. For some reason I thought that Silva’s camp had insisted on a #1 contenders match between the two of them.

by PM23 on Apr 12, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silva’s camp did say they thought there should be a fight between Henderson and Marquardt for number one contender.

by who me on Apr 12, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what i thought!! You’ve had my back a couple of times in this thread…much appreciated friend!

by PM23 on Apr 12, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yes

because we all know this fight proved that Anderson Silva is a push over, all that destruction from before was all just an autistic child’s fantasy.

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by Fake Emcee on Apr 12, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tommy Westphall Universe FTW

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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 12, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

That gif is the funniest thing that has ever happened.

I specializes in grammar fail.

by a tommy point on Apr 12, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would be amazing if this fight happened…somehow.

by HappyLittleTreez on Apr 12, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I must be evolving somehow

I am finding this subject to already be over-discussed and boring.

But, seriously. It is obvious that Anderson needs to be challenged, otherwise he would not talk about the extremes of going to HW or WW or fighting a real boxing match. So why not just let him be done with the MW division and pursue these other challenges?

That gets my vote

by SimplePsych on Apr 11, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

He doesn’t speak english, so the only quotes we get from him are short, translated answers to simple questions.

Novel idea, you guys ever try to get an in-depth interview with him with one of them fancy translators?

by bleve_ on Apr 12, 2010 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Here’s the simple thing people seem to miss.

Anderson isn’t as good as people make him out to be. He’s a pure counter striker, and if his opponent doesn’t rush after him blindly like Forrest it becomes apparent just how one dimensional he is.

It’s not that he’s going easy on, or clowning his opponent. He needs them to rush forward, or his game plan is out the window.

by MrJobro on Apr 12, 2010 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Then why does he always win so easily?

by ufc4 on Apr 12, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

So he forces his opponents to fight his fight, then he beats them at it? How crappy is that!

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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 12, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t force someone to chase you. That’s the problem. Cote, Leites, and Maia have all shown that.

by MrJobro on Apr 12, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

I said the same thing in Mike Fagan’s ‘Lambs to the Slaughter’ post:

The problem with Anderson is that he’s all counter. We all remember the dominant performances, but forget that most of those opponents fed his strength. Silva’s straight offense is his weakness, as a fighter and as a draw.

And I’m a huge Silva fan.

by bleve_ on Apr 12, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

He may be a dick

but implying that he’s not that good, one dimensional, needs to be fed with brawlers is plain stupid.

by dancingChicken on Apr 12, 2010 5:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think history bears this out

I seem to recall Silva tracking Tony Frykland down, slapping a plum on him, and beating him something terrible.

by capital L on Apr 12, 2010 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

i still respect anderson silva and im going to remain a huge fan of his…
he has been saying for years that hes interested in the biggest fights.. but they give him cote, leites, or maia, and everyone strokes these guys and tries to make them out to be contenders when theyre obviously not, and its a waste of A silvas prime…
now dana white will stop matching him up with shitty opponents and hes going to only put him in there with killers and big fights.. i mean challenge the guy before he gets bored of training for gods sake. i think its hilarious that hes fearless enough to act so weird and keep a straight face about it.. i respect his reasons and forget the rest im not jumping off his bandwagon now, i got your back anderson…

by FMLftwFU on Apr 12, 2010 1:15 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

maia > anderson

Anderson tried to get into Maia’s head and Maia didn’t fall for it and didn’t overcomit and/or purposefully made wild mistakes. Confronted with this, Anderson couldn’t or didn’t dare to come in and finish. That makes him either not that good or scared.

If this is the great Anderson, if he really is this good… I don’t care to see him ‘fight’, and the UFC shouldn’t care to pay him for it. If you want to show you can dominate and devastate your opponents you don’t run around doing crazy shit for a decision, you DEVASTATE. Anderson didn’t show whatever domination all you guys apparently see, he just ran around and clowned and utterly failed to bring Maia off his (understandably careful) game.

After the warning, Anderson didn’t change his behaviour. I think a point deduction at least is in order. You come brag about being the best PfP fighter? Then SHOW IT. Don’t run around like you really don’t know how to break your opponent if he doesn’t respond to your mind games.

I’m putting this one in the ‘not worth watching’-file together with Jake Shields’ performance against Miller.

by MyrkN on Apr 12, 2010 4:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's whats really weird

not once has Anderson claimed to be the best p4p anything, that’s old Mr. Clean Dana White himself spreading all of this so it really baffles me when people act like Andersons the one going around hyping himself up. If you really payed attention to those first couple of rounds you’ll see that Anderson was not only potentially getting away with trying to entice Maia into striking, but he was able to land pretty much any shot he wanted, dodge all of Maia’s attacks, chase Maia around the cage while doing impressions of different fighting styles, and bust up Maia’s face at the same time. That’s the domination everyone’s talking about. And the warning happened in the fifth round with like less than a minute less and that was at the point where Anderson had seemed to stop trying to really put up a fight.

And also this fight DOES NOT take away from everything else Andersons has been able to accomplish outside of a few lack luster fights and everybody needs to stop acting like it does.

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by Fake Emcee on Apr 12, 2010 5:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Everyone needs to care about another fighter right now, you just made me realize we’ve already said everything about him.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Apr 12, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

He didn’t fight like a spoiled brat and his performance was not a protest. I don’t understand how people come up with this shit.

Faber, Florian, Nick Diaz, 'Mayhem', Mousasi, Fedor

by mma_dude on Apr 12, 2010 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, we watched him fight on Saturday, for starters

by Jason H. on Apr 12, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but:
“If the UFC puts on a show with another Anderson Silva mismatch on top, it will bomb. "

I think A.Silva vs. GSP IS a mismatch.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
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If you like it, you should put a rec on it.

by jemaleddin on Apr 12, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparantly people think they shouldn’t put Silva in a mismatch and apparantly everyone short of BROCKLESNAR is a mismatch in Silva’s favor. I guess Silva is just way too good for everyone in MMA, in horse racing they would just put him out to stud at this point.

by who me on Apr 12, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like we can make everyone happy by pitting him against BROCKLESNAR

…except Frank Mir.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
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by jemaleddin on Apr 12, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

F him!

I don’t care if I see AS fight again, the only time being maybe shogun or GSP. Let him sit and rot and when he wants to fight somewhere else, the UFC could threaten to sue..F*&K him let him think about it! The UFC holds all the cards…they win 99.9 % of these battles.

by derreckla on Apr 12, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

This fight was Anderson Silva doing the standing version of a BJJ buttscoot the whole fight. He stood back and taunted, basically refusing to fight unless the other fighter let him throw counters all night.

by Jason H. on Apr 12, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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