Anderson Silva, UFC 112, and "Disrespect"
by Michael Rome on Apr 10, 2010 5:28 PM EDT
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I'll admit it: I like a little showmanship in my fighting. When Silva started juking and jiving, I was laughing along at first. Then I really wanted Maia to hit him. And then it got...weird.
There's no defending what Anderson Silva did tonight, though I'm sure some will try. For all the talk about St. Pierre not finishing, at least he tried to finish. Anderson made a mockery of Maia, disrespected him for three rounds, and then disrespected the fans for the last two rounds. Nobody's saying you have to finish, but it's completely reasonable for fans to expect their champions to try to finish.
In the post-fight, Anderson claimed Maia disrespected him as a fighter. I can only assume he's mad that Maia said he would dominate Silva on the ground. Regardless of whether or not Maia was disrespectful (he wasn't), at least he didn't disrespect the fans.
Maia saved his career in the fifth round. Instead of being remembered as Thales Leites, he went out and put everything he had into the fifth round, and even won a full blown punching exchange with Silva. The biggest problem was Silva's reach--he was able to use his length and power to keep Maia so far away that Maia couldn't effectively work for the takedown.
Silva did a lot of work tonight to undo the good will he had coming out of his win over Forrest Griffin. Any progress he made in establishing himself as a draw in that fight may have been undone in Abu Dhabi. Is GSP next? It's hard to say. If Anderson is willing to make the cut, St. Pierre will take the fight, but I don't see St. Pierre looking to add on muscle to fight a crowd killer like this at 185. Where's the upside for him?
What's next for Anderson Silva? Who knows. Dana White is enraged right now, and seems uninterested in GSP vs. Anderson Silva after what we saw tonight. Here's a Dana White quote from the press conference via Ariel Helwani:
I don't want to see GSP vs. Silva after tonight. Silva might be the first champion fighting on a prelim. I don't want to see that shit.
Say what you will about Dana, but that sentiment sums up the way a lot of fans are feeling. One has to feel bad for Frankie Edgar, a guy who pulled off (?) an incredible upset and is getting no attention.
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Fuck Anderson Silva
I hate this showboating bastard. I wish UFC would strip his ass of the title.
by TDITZ on Apr 10, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Showmanship should be a part of fighting but that went way too far.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Does that mean you won't be buying his new UFC action figure??
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by ANance on Apr 10, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Anderson Silva is a F*cking Coward.
I’m not going to lie… I’ve hated Anderson Silva (very much on record) for YEARS. This is exactly the reason why. He has no business wasting his time toying with people at 185 or 170. Quit being a giant p*ssy and fight Machia or go to heavyweight with the big boys. For all the criticism Fedor gets, at least he actually makes and effort and tests himself.
Strip him of the title and suspend him for acting (repeatedly) like a giant douchebag. No more fights below 205.
If he ever gets (forced) to fight Lesnar, I hope Lesnar brushes off the ref and continues to smash his face.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Apr 11, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
was looking forward to GSP's
I WUZ NOT EMPREZZED WITCHUR PERFORMENCE routine, but sadly that didn’t happen
Can’t wait to hear all the GSP bashers jump down Anderson’s throat for not attempting to finish a severely outclassed opponent.
"It’s going to be like sex with a grizzly bear, you know, a lot of scratching and growling on both sides." - Don Frye
by Excelsior! on Apr 10, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Funny you say that.
As one of the guys saying GSP should have finished Hardy; I pointed to that example as a repeat here and have said that if Silva can taunt and good around with his opponent for 25 minutes and feel he is in no danger; he should have been able to finish the fight.
Nothing like taunting someone for not engaging in the fight when you spend the whole fight not engaging with them either. Pot meet kettle.
Not saying, just like with GSP; that Silva didn’t win. But I damn sure don’t feel like I’m watching a P4P champion.
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
For all the talk about St. Pierre not finishing, at least he tried to finish.
And that’s why he’s more respected by the fans than Silva at this moment.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
He’s also humble and apologetic about it.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not only is he humble, he also respects his opponents. I couldn’t believe that Anderson was continuously swearing at Maia during the fight, (in portuguese)…. in addition to all the mocking. So much for the whole respect image Silva tries to show all the time…
by iamtheoriginalchris on Apr 10, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
3 thoughts in my head from 112
1) EDGAR!!!!!!!!!
2) I kept thinking Anderson “Kalib” Silva in the last two rounds
3) I think Anderson showed some weaknesses today… cardio?, chin? and heart.
Silva is still a killer.
don’t sully Kalib’s good name by comparing him to Anderson!
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by Zak Woods on Apr 10, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
True dat.
In defense of Starnes, he was honest in his running away. He didn’t clown the f around about it.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Apr 12, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
It hurts me to say it as a huge BJ fan
put I just feel great for Edgar. I remember watching his MTV “True Life” and genuinely liking the guy, and I pulled for him in every fight but this one. Props to him, hopefully later in the week more kudos will be going his way.
As for Anderson Silva, I eat this shit up. It may not show up in circles like BE, but I’m sure there are a few people like me out there. Yeah, I pulled for Darth Vader in Star Wars, too.
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Edgar was on True Life? Which episode?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
True Life: I'm a Mixed Martial Artist
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
you should be able to find it online via mtv.com
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I Love Silva
But lately i have felt his attitude has been becoming more arrogant. I still appreciate all his skill and abilities and he is a Counter-Fighter first and foremost and thats what he was looking for was Maia to come in the whole time and Flail Away ala Griffin. So he could get a KO.
But as fighter YOU have to Attack as well…and if you are not doing anything and are Showboating past the point of Disrespecting your Opponent that is DISGUSTING… After the 1st RD. i was hoping Maia to KO him.
by pRoXiMo on Apr 10, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Strip him of the title.
Honestly, you do not deserve the title if you don’t fight. Anderson stopped fighting the last 2 rounds. I hope Dana sets a match up between Vitor and Silva. Vitor will destroy SIlva.
Dana’s not going to strip him but yeah please, please put him against someone who will force him to fight.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
the thing is – the guy’s who force him to fight are the guys he will beat the shit out of in spectacular fashion. – Just like the dude on your signature.
I want this dude to lose, and I think GSP’s the man to do it.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
by lcollins1 on Apr 10, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah . . . I guess it is time for people to figure out a way to beat.
Mayweather would find a whole lot of difficulty with Pacquiao’s punch count.
We’ll see how he does against a fast Mosley.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe Mayweather would find difficulty with Pac, maybe he’d cleanly KO him on a sweet counter or something that looks like what Silva did to Forrest.
And Mosley’s an old man – he is not “fast Mosley” anymore.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
true, but i still think Mosley can offer competition.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
- happy for Edgar, next time BJ, next time . . . maybe he won’t stay so flat-footed.
- Rome, I agree with this whole post. I enjoyed the 1st and 2nd then it got really weird.
- Silva just shot himself in the foot.
- I’m a huge fan but I can’t defend what he did in the 4th and 5th.
- I’m glad Dan Miragliotta (sorry if misspelled) stepped up and tried to stop Kalib Starnes . . . oops the MW champion, Anderson Silva from runnning.
- Forget GSP vs Silva . . . bring on Sonnen so he can insult Silva some more.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mazzagliotta deserves all the misspelling he get, but he sure did something good tonight.
I'm a lover not a fighter
you killed it . . . I’m laughing hard.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
SONNEN???
he would get knocked sooooo fast.
get over it dude, silva is the greatest in the (ufc) everrrrrr
by TobikanJudan 6 6 6 on Apr 10, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but at least it would still be a competition.
Chael Sonnen would not allow Silva to embarass him in the cage.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i kno
he would sleep tho, thats for sure
by TobikanJudan 6 6 6 on Apr 10, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i think Chael would still get embarrassed, like Griffin embarrassed, not Leites embarrassed.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
but at the end of the day, don’t we want a competition and a show.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in the minority
that likes AS antics, but I hear your frustration :p
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
by Orcus on Apr 10, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Orcus, I LOVE HIS antics – the whole capoiera thing is mind-boggling in a real fight plus the sprinter position on the floor
Silva did some really amazing things.
. . . but I didn’t really care for Silva imitating Kalib Starnes.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
at least we have Machida-Rua to look forward to.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I like his showboating but he was pretty disrespectful towards Maia. Screaming in the ring swearing at your opponent is not cool. I don’t know if Anderson is a little psycho, but there’s definitely something strange going in his mind.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
pounding on someone’s ass is not cool either, but I still liked it when Saku and Coleman did it :p
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ii mean the verbal stuff. Swearing and screaming at your opponent is not cool.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
but now you're just picking and choosing
antics are antics, when Rashad grabs his crouch, when Anderson screans or punches the ground, when someone slaps someone in the ass, antics are antics are antics, you either favor them as a whole or not
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
by Orcus on Apr 10, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
On the UFC website under rules it acaully has no foul language in the Octogon. I was pretty shocked to read that.
by darkside3744 on Apr 10, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Heres the exact writing
24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area.
by darkside3744 on Apr 10, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
OR anything that disrespects unarmed combat.
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-467.html#NRS467Sec030
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wow
did not know that, my next question would be, did he really use faul language though? I couldn’t make out what he said.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Good thing Big Marg does’nt speak Brazilian
by darkside3744 on Apr 10, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
So was he letting Maia hit him in the fourth and fifth round, or was he just gassing, or is he insane? It looked to me like Maia was actually getting the better of him on the feet. I know this doesn’t fit the AS is the greatest ever narrative, but sometimes shit happens.
by The Darkness on Apr 10, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
3. Silva just shot himself in the foot.
A bit higher and more to the centerline, I’d say…
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Apr 12, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna be the dick that does it
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
and let me follow that by saying, Yes, it was horrible what AS did, but I dug it
/resumes eating kitten
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm honestly glad you did
Because I’m starting my own promotion next month, it’s called Ultimate Circus , there will be clowns, dancers, humorists, and they will all perform in a cage 1 vs 1. No fighting, just entertainment for the family.
I'm a lover not a fighter
by spectaa on Apr 10, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
for the family
Count me out. I’m only in it for stuff like Kinky Kelly and the Sexy Stud
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
interspecies erotica isn’t legal in my country by if we do a show in Canada I’ll make sure to please the fans.
I'm a lover not a fighter
by spectaa on Apr 10, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec’d for “interspecies erotica”. this guy knows what I’m talkin about, this guy DEFINITELY knows what I’m talkin about
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
that Jersey sucks?
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kelly can be a guy's name too OWWW!
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for
Anderson vs. Velasquez now. Maybe that’ll push him hard enough, huh?
by Trysdor on Apr 10, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Trade?
Maybe UFC could trade Silva and Machida for Fedor.
Why Machida?
Despite the judges’ decision of Shogun vs Machida, I have heard no one say that the fight itself was boring or anything of the sort. If anything, I have read that many MMA fans watched the fight again.
Isn’t the real story here that BJ Penn just lost to Frankie Edgar? Anderson has done this before…
by Postpubescent on Apr 10, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Poor Frankie....get's a huge win. No attention.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Edgar is not complaining with the gold around his waist
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He gets attention in “Frankie Edgar”post, but somehow people choose to comment on Silva.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Go Edgar!
Penn got outpointed because he was flat footed and not aggressive enough. He allowed Edgar to dictate the pace.
Edgar gets all the props but does this set up Edgar vs Maynard II . . . yup!
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s easier to be angry than happy
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the worst thing Anderson did
Edgar scores maybe the biggest upset of all time and Silva’s antics make us all forget 30 minutes later.
I dont agree with this at all. I dont think Frankie did enough for the win.
Frankie was more active but Penn was countering every time Frankie stepped in. I really dont see how BJ gets the L here especially being the champ and what not.
Then the Shogun fight. Jesus they keep messing things up. At least this fight was close though.
????
BJ Penn doesn’t agree with you.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
…especially being the champ and what not.
Is this a throwback to that “You have to REALLY beat the champ” logic that Juanito used to throw around?
The winner of the fight is the winner of the fight. If the champ wants to stay the champ, he needs to win the fight.
by Shaun32887 on Apr 10, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's the problem -
There’s no guidance on the issue. Apparently Machida retained because you have to beat the champ. But Penn doesn’t have the same luxury?
No
Machida retained the title because the judges were idiots and apparently don’t understand leg kicks.
I think many of us enjoyed Anderson’s clowning and showmanship in the first two rounds, it just became pathetic after that when he stopped fighting completely.
Fights like that illustrate why the likes of Chuck and Wanderlei are still so beloved by the fans despite struggling to win a fight in recent years.
by rabrown on Apr 10, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
so true.
Not for nothing the first two rounds were kind of AMAZING!
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
You can do a lot for your career by bringing the fight to your opponent.
by CaliforniaCreamPuff on Apr 10, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Man sounds like I made the right decision when i chose a five hour drive from the bay area home instead of watching this shit.
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
Really?!?!?! Get the fudge out!
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 10, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. I just am glad I dont have another UFC97 bad taste in my mouth.
By the way, Congrats to Frankie Edgar, by all accounts he earned the win so good for him.
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 10, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow . . . that must have been painful live.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
damn dude
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Your comments explain why Dana is so pissed. They probably lost 50,000 + buys when people heard how bad the main event was, when what everyone should be talking about is how BJ got upset.
by John Nash on Apr 10, 2010 6:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dont be mad at anderson
for being a real martial artist.
thats what he is, he isnt a goddamn entertainer, he doesnt really care too much for the fans and he isnt a fake guy like every other ufc fighter who claims to fight for the fans but is really fighting for that paper.
silva is just gonna do what he wants cause he is his own man and doesnt let the ufc control his antics and actions.
i like silva waaaaaayyyyyy more now than i ever have before.
:)
by TobikanJudan 6 6 6 on Apr 10, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions
So you respect him for going out and making a fool of himself?
Who are your heroes? The cast of Jersey Shore?
Hey don’t bad mouth Jersey Shore . . . that’s pure entertainment! One shot kid!!
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
;-)
Ronnie vs. Silva would be cool
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t know what it is but it’s funny.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
why?
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think you can do a pic in the subject
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
....
click on the subject and watch this texts disappear.
i got you bro
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Just post something tangentially related in the subject, or even “click here to hide!”
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
illumination
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya dude stop making jokes! This is the internets and the bloody elbows is serious shit not to be trivialized by such things as The Situation!
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
sry!
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
With me firefox plows through Gifs
But chrome can’t handle shit. I have a year and a half old macbook. Its just the browser really.
I just switched from an HP to a mac. Still trying to figure it all out…ugh
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
I made the switch when I got to college. It took me a few months, but now I’m better with a mac then I ever was with a PC.
me too, college made me do it. also, there’s totally a snob factor when you’re in the library on your mac and the kid at the next table is rockin a Dell
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
never said I wasn’t an asshole!
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It kinda feels like using my left hand to brush my teeth. It’s only day two and I really like the Mac, just need to figure a few things out still.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
the first time I did the “four-finger swipe” I almost creamed myself
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
im unaware of that move, are you reffering to the magic mouse? Even it confuses me.I keep trying to right click. Ha
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
with multiple windows/browsers open, swipe down with four fingers and it magically shows you all of them at once. fuck minimizing to find that 13th wiki page you opened in a new window!
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
it's okay, i got your back
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
“I always hear him talkin how people dont wanna see him shine. Well, the motherfucker looks shiny to me!”
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 10, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
come on, he’s done this before twice, and once he gets a knock out everyone forgives and im sure your gonna be one of em when he knocks out whoever he fights next.
ya lame
by TobikanJudan 6 6 6 on Apr 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
then why did he apologize after the fight and do all that mockery bullshit?
He wants the fans to like him, he’s just not willing to take a risk to stop anybody, which is why he sucks to watch.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Silva is weird and crazy
but put him against some real competition and he’s really entertaining.
If his opponent sole means of victory is taking him to the ground, there’s a problem.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree but that’s primarily because he’s not fighting wrestlers.
by The Darkness on Apr 10, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
can’t wait to see him face a true wrestler in Chael Sonnen!
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonnen’s already apparently called him a “dirtbag.” I don’t know why but I keep chuckling everytime I read that.
by The Darkness on Apr 10, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He recanted his apology in the post-fight presser
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesnt really care too much for the fans and he isnt a fake guy
that’s definitely obvious.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I am guessing you are trolling.
But, SIlva talks a huge game of respect and honor and then is insulting and rude during the fight. Doesn’t that make him fake?
by Dropkick434 on Apr 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that’s not trolling
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. If you wanna see trolling get a gander at my posts!
"Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl, but then it turns out that this girl is actually a golden retriever or something."
by Earl Montclair on Apr 10, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
When I posted I thought he was the same guy as the “Anderson is a true martial artist” poster above.
got you, that guy was kind of crazy
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
when does Silva talk about honor? He talks about respect a lot, and he does respect everyone outside the cage, but honor? You’re thinking of Machida…
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Okay, drop the honor part
SIlva talks a huge game of respect and then is insulting and rude during the fight. Doesn’t that make him fake?
naw, in his view, respect is something carried outside of the cage, inside anything goes
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Brazilians are on the same wavelength, like on that show “V”
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!!
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Orcus knew for shogun, and here he understands things about Silva I really don’t, I think you’re definitely onto something.
I'm a lover not a fighter
it's our DNAs
it’s much closer to each other than in most countries :p
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…that would imply lots of inbreeding…
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
why the need to ask
when we have interviews letting us know how they view things?
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Actions speak louder than words. Anderson comes across as smug, apathetic and disrespectful to his oppoenents and the fans. I have always though Anderson was smug from the first time I saw him do that awkward bow after destroying his opponent.
He apologized to Joe Rogan, then said he doesn’t apologize in the post-fight presser.
Break it down for me . . . what’s up?
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
nope
that’s true, he made a complete 180, I need to see the PC to make sure Soares didn’t fuck it up though, but he did apologize after the fight
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
yes.
Oh yeah, Ariel Helwani was tweeting the post-fight presser.
A number of MMA blogs and sites posted his statements.
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.fightlinker.com/more-on-the-anderson-silva-fight
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I saw that in the comments section, I’m just really waiting to see it myself to see how I feel about it, things can get lost in translation and also it could be in different context
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
fair enough.
I’m sure Silva will reveal whatever . . . in the coming months.
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Note, Silva has been weird in some interviews.
He definitely contradicted himself after this fight.
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m no 12th degree black belt, but isnt respect and self control part of the fundamental teachings of most martial arts? Silva really embarrassed himself, his teachers, his disciplines,and the entire sport with his antics.
not everyone is GSP or Machida
I welcome the diversity
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Yeah I welcome the diversity but I KNOW his corner and some of his peoples may be upset with him. They look like they scream on him when he’s aloof and doing his thing.
Although he beat Tony Fryklund with that Tony Jaa move, his peoples told him before the fight don’t try that sh*t. It won’t work.
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think his corner was telling him to finish the fight
don’t know if that had anything to do with DW going up there.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I understand that. I am not saying I want Silva to be a fraud of who he really is. I think we saw a good glimpse of who Anderson Silva really is today, unfortunately its not a pretty picture and not who some thought he was. However, its not am excuse for his complete lack of class and sportsmanship. An honest asshole is still an asshole, I guess its better than one who smiles in your face and stabs you in the back, but its still far from how a professional should conduct himself, especially not a good move when your boss is trying to move in on a new market.
but its still far from how a professional should conduct himself, especially not a good move when your boss is trying to move in on a new market.
how would this be his fault though, shouldn’t it be the UFC’s fault for putting him as the main event there? If they wanted a great first impression, put someone like wandy in the main card and have the BJ fight be the main event. Silva has done this before, I don’t know why the UFC is so surprised when the spider is not challenged, it’s really their fault if they wanted to make a great first impression.
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Well I just think when you consider the location, it just makes AS(s) look worse. Silva may feel he wants different oppotunities in the ufc/mma, but I dont think acting the way he did got him any closer to getting his desires. He can’t be ignorant of how his performance or lack thereof would affect a lot of what the ufc was trying to accomplish as an organization (make more $$$ of course, monopolize mma).
If he wants to fight at different weight classes or box roy jones or be on dancing with the stars (he probably should have been rather than chuck) then the way to do that is not to piss your bosses off even further. It seemed like the powers that be werent too happy with his efforts in the Leites fight, so he can’t be surprised his efforts today were met with further criticism. I’m all for fighter’s rights, but Silva seems to be just trying to get his way by acting like an entitled, spoiled brat. If he went about this in a different manner, he could have made the ufc look like the bad guy (not too difficult), but as of now I kinda feel bad for the ufc not Silva at all.
If he wants to fight at different weight classes or box roy jones or be on dancing with the stars (he probably should have been rather than chuck) then the way to do that is not to piss your bosses off even further
let’s be real, even if they were praising him he’d not get any of those options. To be honest I think Silva has the upper hand here, he’s got the UFC on his hand if you want to believe it or not. He’s the Champ, he’s their promoted “#1 p4p” fighter, the UFC cannot cut him, cannot bench him, cannot put him on the undercards. the only way out is to put him against someone with a big name that can potentially beat him, but that’s probably what Andy wants anyhow
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well dana and co. arent exactly wallflowers, even though they really havent held him accountable in the past, I expect that to stop now. They dont have a history of giving in to fighters demands no matter who it is. i feel the shit is really about to hit the fan. If Anderson wanted other opportunities he should have been more careful when signing his contract.
There needs to be a poll
of how BJ/Edgar was scored.
by I Can't Feel My Face on Apr 10, 2010 5:55 PM EDT reply actions
I scored it at 48-47 Edgar
correct guy won IMO, but those score cards were crazy
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He definitely did not win all the rounds. It was a close fight, but Edgar closed it out.
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
scores
I kept a score going and had it 48-47 penn. but I knew it could have gone the other way. and it did!!!
Question
Who do you all think is the #1 lw in the world now? Does Aoki move up unless he losses to Melendez?
What happens if Aoki loses to Melendez? Not saying it will happen but if it does then what, do you make the case for Edgar or Melendez as #1 or does Alvarez or Florian have a claim.
I have Penn at #1 and still P4P champ as crazy as that sounds. Just because of corrupt judging Im not going to lower my standards.
I also have Shogun as #1 LHW in the world as well just for reference
It's not corrupt by any means
If it was it would’ve been 50-45 Penn, seeing as he’s a superstar and everything
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
If you dont see an 8 to 1 favorite and understand the implications of that then u my friend are naive.
i was trying to think of a way to turn your statement against you, but i'm drunk and can't
thinking this was a robbery isn’t naive, it’s delusional
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol did I even say robbery/ No i didnt I said travesty.
Anytime a fighter loses according to the judges and wins according the fight it is terrible. Anytime this happens in a championship fight its downright depressing.
Shit happens though was a close fight def not a robbery
You keep saying "Penn won the fight", but the judges gave the fight to Edgar
ipso facto, ergo, concordantly Penn was robbed of his championship by your definition
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be obscenely risky
BJ Penn is a finisher through and through, and most weren’t even expecting it to go the judges.
The 50-45 was bs but...
BJ lost that fight. Get over it. Doesn’t mean Frankie is better, he just was for 25 minutes.
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I dont agree with that and I dont think that the MMA world will agree with that in a week especially fighters and so on. We will have to see how this fight is looked upon.
How do people feel Machida Shogun now people think it was close to justify but it was a blow out the night of the fight. Only the future will tell.
You are right. Edgar was only better for 15 minutes not 25. My mistake. All BJ did was jab and defend takedowns. He threw a few kicks that didn’t land. Edgar was landing combos and scored a few takedowns. They might not have lasted very long but they still count.
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I dunno def gunna watch it again thats for sure.
I am pretty sure Penn was better for 15 minutes. Alot of people agree the consensus seems to be split.
However it is close enough where it could go either way. I am just devastated. Fuck! I hate when championship bouts go like this. I really fucking hate it. I am absolutley devastated. Damn!
Great fight though.
I had it 48-47 Penn, but could have easily seen 48-47 Edgar.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You agree with this now? That’s good. It was a very close fight, and like Brent says, i think either guy has a justifiable claim to the win. It wasn’t a “travesty” or anything like that at all imo.
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by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes Ive calmed down from before. I am still devastated though. I just hate to see things like this happen in championship fights legacy and all that it just kills me.
But yea it was really fucking close. What can you do man. Oh man Im soooo sick fuckkkkk
You seem like a big BJ fan as am I...
So I’m wondering were you like I am devastated that BJ didn’t look healthy tonight even in the first round. It seemed like he was the BJ of old physically and mentally I’m not even sure who that was. He looked ok on the walk in but once in the Octagon he just didn’t look as intense as usual(it seemed like mabye a family member died honestly idk) but more likely hes suffering an injury(seriously when has he worn a brace and he couldn’t even throw a high kick on balance). In closing I hope he will reveal whats up(probably won’t to avoid looking like Tito) and yes like you I have the Marinovich BJ as p4p champ.
Google Ron Paul!
Oh, and props to you for calling out all the people who were saying Edgar had no chance the other day.
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by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Why thank you. I dont know what happens man I was doing it to. We get all worked up and like convince each other pushing favorites too far sometimes.
All I know prior to him winning the belt Frankie has showed that he is no fucking joke retarted skilled tough and just a sick sick fighter.
People were assuming Floiran = Diego = Sherk = Daddy >>>>> Edgar
Just didnt like it cuz it seems not many people were aware of how good frankie really was.
I expected a good competitive fight this fight didnt suprise me too much but I thought there was a higher probability then not that Edgar would get hurt at least once and that Edgar would be scrambling for takedowns a little more.
All in all that was a beautiful display.
i am sure penn will be happy to hear that.
LOL I still love Bjs style. Frankie is a tough dude. He trained at Balance Studios in Philly for awhile. I had my bjj teacher telling he could pull it off. I should have listened and thrown some dough down.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on Apr 10, 2010 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh shit I didn't even think about that
Given my evil nature I’m penning Aoki in as the number 1 lightweight in the world. Oh god that’s going to be great. In your face Japan haters.
My thought at the moment is that it’s extremely close between Edgar and Aoki for the #1 spot. Beating B.J. is better than anything Aoki’s done, but Aoki has more top 10/15 wins total, and doesn’t have an outstanding, unavenged loss to a low-ranked competitor like Edgar does.
So I’m thinking I’ll put Aoki at #1, but if Melendez beats him next weekend, Edgar will probably move up, since Melendez has two recent losses on his ledger (although both are avenged).
In any event, this fight has really changed things for the top of the lightweight division.
doesn’t have an outstanding, unavenged loss to a low-ranked competitor like Edgar does.
ummm, Edgar’s unavenged loss, his only loss for that matter, is Gary Maynard, who is not low-ranked. i think Maynard>Sakurai
Penn won the first three and Edgar the last 2
Penn easily takes this. Edgar winning is a travesty although not as big as Shogun losing I might add.
Frankie did good excellent actually but never put Penn in danger and did not land all that much and was getting countered left and right. He did out cardio Penn which was good for him.
He pulled a Forrest vs Rampage situation where u throw a million punches none of them really where landing. And Penn was countering every time he came in.
This is a travesty!
You’re throwing a lot of silly words around. Corrupt, travesty? It was a close fight, get over it.
by sadface on Apr 10, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t see how people would think that decision was a controversy.
BJ Penn has publicly congratulated Edgar.
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Controversy because Penn won that fight.
Regardless how close it was Penn still won. I dont get why you guys are so anti BJ? Must be all Pro GSP guys are something because clearly Penn did not lose.
you say it was close but can’t see how others may think Penn lost? close fights naturally will have people on either side of the fence, not everyone will agree with a winner.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
You guys are right. Shit does happen. I just hate seeing the wrong outcome for championship fights. It really burns me.
It took me months to get over Shogun Machida I guess Im fucked for the next couple months . Lol.
yeah
I got over Machida/Shogun because of the rematch though, if Shogun didn’t get another shot I’d be pissed still
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Me 2 Orcus. I hope they do the same here. Although I will admit Penn Edgar was a hell of a lot closer than SHogun Machida.
I feel the same about Penn and Machida though.
I feel like Shogun and Edgar threw their best at them and that Machida/Penn have a chance to do better.
Do you think Hawaii training affected Penn? There was a little pudge on his belly .
i hear you man
hope they’ll have a second go at it. not sure about penn, sometimes he doesn’t train properly but I’m not going to speculate because Frankie did a hell of a job
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I Love Penn
but he has some holes . . . standing flat footed is a no-no, he’s not able to adjust as quick to a moving-moving-moving Edgar.
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
While BJ has always had a flat footed powerful style he has since his return to lw also had serious spring and been able to chase down his competition. Honestly I’m much more disheartenedthat BJ was unhealthy than that he lost his title which I believe the Marinovich BJ can eaily reclaim.
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Yea Frankie stayed active but Penn was countering well thru three rounds. Edgar threw a lot of punches that hit nothing and alot of times Edgar came in and got tagged. Cant wait for the Fight Metric on this one.
If you are a fighter the best gameplan is to be busy and land a takedown here and there. Although its manipulative of the system it is a proven system that works.
BJ lost, everyone including BJ himself acknowledges that. Is it so hard for you to accept that, that you can only rationalize it by assuming us to be BJ haters?
“Clearly” Penn did not lose.
“Corrupt” judging
This is a “travesty”
You need to calm down. Even the people who scored it for Frankie admit that BJ did not look like his usual self. It was a close fight, get over it.
Ur right I am overreacting. It was a bad call by judges but it was BJs fault for letting it be that close in the first place. But it was a championship fight! Ahh!
Guess ill have to get over it fuck
When I’m mad like this, I try to stay away from the internet and my cell phone; usually better in the long run.
By the way, I have a good proposal for Anderson’s next fight:
Anderson Silva vs. Cain Velasquez at heavyweight. Let’s see him do this shit there.
by Michael Rome on Apr 10, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Totally stole that from me
I’m rooting for
Anderson vs. Velasquez now. Maybe that’ll push him hard enough, huh?
by Trysdor on Apr 10, 2010 2:47 PM PDT
I personally would love that fight
but that would fuck over Cain, who is already promissed the next title fight, why not Mir instead?
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I think that would be better as well
Cain is a hot prospect right now who should be training for the winner of Brock/Carwin. Plus, if Silva thought Maia disrespected him he should listen to what Mir would say.
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I agree. Although Im not mad at AS he needs to be challenged that little should be known.
Would love to see AS vs Mir. Shit put AS vs Lesnar I don’t care regardless of what happens you know you will get the best out of Silva.
Blame Joe Silva he should no better. Challenge the monster don;t feed him
I said as soon as Sonnen was not going to be able to fight for the title
to scratch a title fight right now and make a LHW fight instead, I should have Joe Silva’s job!
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Really don’t want these matchups:
Shogun vs. Brian Stann
Anderson Silva vs. Dan Miller
Junior dos Santos vs. Chris Tuchscherer
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That dos Santos Tuchscherer fight would be a fun fifteen seconds
After Tuchcherer is crumpled on the ground Cigano should just give him a little cup check.
That’d be great, especially after Cain destroyed Silva’s mentor
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt they will risk derailing the Velazquez train
especially since he is getting next shot.
If Shogun wins and the winner of Rampage/Rashad does win convincingly then maybe I could see Shogun/Silva but how pissed Dana must be right now maybe not.
Assuming there is no immediate rematch
Maynard vs Edgar for the title right? I mean no other fight really makes sense. There is a legit chance Gray Maynard will be lw champ. What is even going on right now? Then who does BJ fight. You can’t give him Florian right? If that fight happens it has be for the belt, for Florian’s sake. BJ Gomi would just be mean to Gomi.
I think the biggest implication this has for Penn is that it delays his move to WW.
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know if delays is the right word
There is absolutely no reason for him to go up to welterweight maybe ever now.
this is a possibility
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
terrible spelling
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
Maynard was a definitive win over Diaz away from getting a title shot over Edgar. Pair that with the fact that he already beat Edgar, Maynard has earned it.
At the same time, Florian destroyed Guida and dominated Gomi. It’s tough to call who deserves it more.
I love Florian
And I still think he would beat anybody at lightweight, not named Penn. And maybe 1 out of 3 times he beats Penn. I see your point. Its just the whole Maynard’s undefeated and has a win over the champ thing. Wouldn’t complain if Kenny got the shot though.
How does Frankie beating Penn have any effect of Florians chances against Penn. You think Florian would win 1/3 with Penn?
Exactly how I would like to know. And how would you get that from there first fight?
It has absolutely no effect
I thought that before. Kenny’s striking was off. I think Kenny at the very top of his game has the kicking game to give BJ problems.
Agreed
I was hoping Kenny would use a similar gameplan to what Frankie used. If they have a rematch, I expect it to be much closer.
Yea if BJ doesnt get the rematch which he should IMO then logically Maynard should be next in line. However his himming and hawwing over getting the shot might have swayed Dana into a fuck Maynard mode . Only time will tell.
I would say if not BJ maynard would be the favorite to get the next shot though.
CHAEL SONNEN'S STATEMENTS!!!
I wasn’t surprised," Sonnen told MMAJunkie. "It is par for the course.
There’s people out there that need (to be) beaten up – he’s one of them. And I have a moral obligation to society to beat him up.
SOURCE:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Sonnen-Silva-s-next-possible-opponent-not-surp?urn=mma,233393
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh stop it Stillberry. AS is no bitch man. AS is a terrible matchup for Sonnen anyway he is not the savior.
Jon Jones is the one to save us from the spider u herd it here first.
Lol Man AS you really have a majority of the MMA community hating u for real.
I cant blame you guys I understand what u are saying. I am happy just to watch him for those 2 rounds the guy is amazing and I feel that he needs to be challenged
YUS!!!
Although, it’s one thing to say he is gonna beat up AS and another to actually do it. I hope he can.
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If he feels like Maia disrespected him, what is he going to do with Sonnen? Drop his pants and pee in his face?
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Apparently anything he chooses to do inside the Octagon.
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s people out there that need (to be) beaten up– he’s one of them. And I have a moral obligation to society to lay on him for 25 minutes.
fixed
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Just imagine how many bad things can Sonnen say to Silva while laying on him for such a long time. He could drive him crazy by whispering dirty republican stuff to his ears.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
RAWR! Drilling in Alaska! RAWR! Healthcare = socialism!
by samuraisul on Apr 10, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
yeah he tried . . . he made an effort in the last two rounds.
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing at all. But with all the hoopla about his disrespect to the fans, UFC, me and his opponent . . .
The UFC needs to:
- Give him a challenger who can compete – Belfort or Sonnen
- yeah, put him on an undercard . . . whatever
- Feed him wrestlers and strikers
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
You do understand that the UFC tried to give him Belfort, who got hurt, would have preferred Nate over Maia, but he lost to Sonnen and would have preferred Sonnen to Maia but he was unable to make the turn around.
Yeah.
But now Silva shot himself in the foot. Because if his real opponent ever cancels . . . I doubt they will ever give him a replacement.
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Now all his opponents HAVE to really prove their worth . . . if he defeats Sonnen, Marquardt and Belfort . . . his career in the MW is OVER
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by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh.
I do not feel this great hatred for Anderson Silva. Give the man a real opponent and he’ll fight; it is what it is.
Also: Gifs of Anderson Silva’s faces>Chael Sonnen’s fights.
by WanderleiNoooooo! on Apr 10, 2010 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
SO TRUE!
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i loved this reaction at 101
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson Silva is nothing if not hilarious
The man is a fucking Jedi.
by Neil Manich on Apr 10, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
on a second note
their about to show the replay for the AS fight right now on my subscription, you better believe I’ll watch it again :p
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Rather than judge Anderson as a regular fighter, we she should view him more like a mercurial and capricious Greek god who will only perform miracles if stringent conditions are met and the correct sacrifices are made (see Forrest, Griffin).
by WanderleiNoooooo! on Apr 10, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
HA!! The Gods must be crazy!!
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t see too many greek gods running away from their opponents. Unless of course that opponent happens to be Kratos.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Ares was a wimp. The slightest injury would send him off crying.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t hate the guy now or anything, but he definitely is deserving of some server criticism here.
Also, top 5 ranked opponent Maia is about as real as it get’s. Don’t disrespect him just because your fave fighter did. He doesn’t deserve that.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Maia, and love watching his fights usually; it’s just that he didn’t represent a challenge for Silva in any way shape or form (he was only able to land a bit later on because Anderson had apparently gassed himself via bizzare antics).
by WanderleiNoooooo! on Apr 10, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I still love the guy.
Bjj guys dont play into his style well. Anderson is scared to over commit with a submission guy IMHO.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
I know Maia is one of my favorites. I really wanted him to win.
But Silva is one of my favorites too, I don’t turn quite so quick. It seems everyone thinks Silva could of KOed Maia when ever he wanted to. I think he tried and failed. Maia wouldn’t get reckless get " forrest-ed". Anderson did his best to get Maia to engage in a fire fight but Maia was too smart for that.
Maia is a Warrior that went 5 rounds with the champ never gave up. Anderson did his best to end it. Maia just wouldnt play his game.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
I think another one of the big things that is getting overlooked in Maia’s performance. Sure, he was outclassed, but he really saved his career in the later rounds by showing lots of heart and actually punching the dancing machine in the face a few times!
Maia exponentially shot up the ranks of my fav. fighters list tonight.
Edgar was always up there on the list, man that dude is a little machine man! Energizer bunny on Meth to the maxx!
yeah but the only thing with Demian Maia is that he doesn’t come off looking like Jon Fitch or Dan Hardy vs. GSP.
Fitch kept coming back, Hardy wouldn’t tap . . . Maia ??? i don’t know.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly when did he Maia quit coming!!
Maia WON TWO ROUNDS!!! How many did fitch or Hardy win. Hardy had his hand up to tap and didnt because GSP did the Kimura and the armbar Wrong! ( I am never going mention the GSP vs Hardy fight again. Few seem to understand what happened there and I just come across like a dick when Try to inform.)
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
yikes
from @arielhelwani
To add more fuel to the fire, @KevinI said at the presser that he heard Anderson was playing tennis this morning.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
What’s wrong with playing tennis in the morning?
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Generally it’s not a good idea to participate in an athletic activity the morning before you have a…you know…championship bout in the evening.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You want me to let you in on a secret, Anderson Silva speaks perfect English - Sonnen
and he also plays golf, tennis and chess before championship matches.
At this point, it doesn’t matter.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And sometimes, he does it during the fight, among other things.
I'm a lover not a fighter
by spectaa on Apr 10, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Usually you get killed by the medias if you do something like this and get hurt in the match/fight/whatever.
I'm a lover not a fighter
I guess it was something like cardio training, not Australian Open. Lots of fighter do light workouts on the fight day.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
you have a good point, tennis is great for lateral movement which you will need against a fighter trying to take you down.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you think Silva was practicing his takedown defense
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
"José Aldo is better than me."
- Anderson Silva quote
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2z9b9i/www.graciemag.com/en/2010/04/anderson-idolizes-jose-aldo/
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Kidding, I’m not sold on Aldo being the destroyer of doom yet. Looks too much like the machida era, I want a title defense first.
I'm a lover not a fighter
Yup . . . and Urijah can definitely match him with speed and athleticism.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the elephant in the room right now
Aldo’s fights are too small a sample size. Let’s see him take out Faber before we crown him king of existence.
Sure, I have the patience to wait for that to happen and I would normally not do that with a fighter, but Aldo is my one exception. I judged him as the king of greatness years ago.
Cool, everybody judge Penn as the de-facto LW champ and said he should go to the WW division.
Edgar won.
Aldo fights in a week(?) or two . . . let’s see what happens?
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
What's the story here?
Rather than take issue with Silva’s antics, I’d rather people take issue with Silva’s performance as a fighter. Yes, he busted Maia’s nose (and then Maia busted his own eye), but aside from a grazing flying knee, it didn’t look like he was close to finishing the fight at any time and I think fightMetric will show that Maia outstruck Silva in the fourth and fifth round (and I actually think one of his left hands had Silva a little stunned, although I may be reaching here). I didn’t see anything that made me think that Silva could finish the fight at any time he wanted. Dropping your hands and taunting someone doesn’t make you a great fighter.
So:
1. Was Silva gassing?
2. Was Silva teaching Maia a “lesson” by at first refusing to finish him off and then in the later rounds by not engaging with him and even running from him?
3. Is Silva insane?
I think the narrative for this fight should be that Silva put in one of the worst performances of his career and was actually outpointed on his feet in the fourth and fifth rounds (as a result of his gassing) by a guy who learned the meaning of the word “punch” within the past three years.
If you don’t think Silva was gassing, then I’m at a loss to explain his actions. Since he wanted to teach Maia a lesson he clearly wasn’t letting him off the hook because he was “bored” with him or whatever, and in any event, professional pride should have taken over when Maia popped him in the fourth round.
Perhaps, abu dhabi officials seized his antipsychotics at customs.
by The Darkness on Apr 10, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
- maybe
- who knows, he’ll just say that he did his job
- Yes. He’s not going to pass the drug tests for this fight and he’ll later be suspended.
All in all, this was Silva’s “worst” performance, I guess. Who knows, maybe Patrick Cote was on to something when he said he “fucked up” Silva. His days may be numbered.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva's a Dirt Bag - More or Sonnen's post-fight statements
“[Silva] is a dirtbag anyway, whether he went out there and shook hands and was gracious or he didn’t,” Sonnen said. "Who cares? I don’t know why sportsmanship needs to be involved, anyways. It’s a fight – go do whatever you want.
“So, yes, I will do whatever I want. And when my music hits those speakers, I will make that walk and answer for my words.”
http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2010/4/10/1414791/fear-not-chael-sonnen-will-be-your
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
He may come back . . . hope so but he’s 39 and slowly declining
“Everybody can’t be Randy” – Rampage Jackson
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's wait a wait and then we'll see.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s wait a week and then we’ll see.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I read it the right way the first time . . . this is the internets where teh = the
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.headkicklegend.com/2010/4/10/1414591/purple-rain-anderson-silvas#comments
Really good article on Silva.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
THANKS, that article is kind of on point.
What I’m saying is that people need to take a step back and realize that they are watching an incredibly talented man who is incredibly troubled with how to handle his career in an industry that he simply doesn’t fit in with but can easily dominate. . . .
Anderson Silva will never be what you want him to be and chances are, you can’t understand what goes on in his head. Don’t bother trying.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 10, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I've been saying all day..
People are too emotional about two rounds in a fight that was severely one sided …
Silva took a couple rounds off.. Whether it be he gassed, was bored, coasted, or honestly had nothing left in it to finish with.. Either way it was still a prime display of how far and above he is within his current level of competition in terms of talent..
People should get over it.. Silva > the rest of MMA MW division.. If they want to see every great fighter finish fights, present them with greater challenges… Just my 2 cents…
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Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
Tell that to 85% of all boxers ..
And other MMA fights I’ve seen.. It happens.. For what ever reason, this wasn’t the first time it’s happened in a championship fight and it wont be the last..
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Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
No I’m pretty sure this is the first time something like this has happened. Cote blew his knee out and Leites was flopping but this was on a whole new level of strange.
by darkside3744 on Apr 10, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Strange... sure... But it happens more often than not in boxing and other sports..
People often times take for granted the finishing rate within MMA over other combat sports like boxing for example..
We’ve become so spoiled that we expect it at all costs.. Did it ever occur to people that maybe, just maybe.. Silva “couldn’t” finish the fight ?? Maybe he gassed ? Maybe he was bored.. what ever the reason, it happened.. It’s not the first time someone has coasted to victory in a fight (even of this magnitude)..
I personally think Silva is a victim of his own success.. We walked in and started destroying everyone with finishes.. Now if he doesn’t finish, he’s an asshole ?? He’s always been a show boater.. People need to stop getting all up in arms over it too.. I advise these fans to go research and watch Silva’s “pre-UFC” fights.. There is nothing new here.. Just some of you are only fans post Silva UFC…
His coasting is no different than Fitch or GSP grinding out top position on the ground to win out a fight.. Because GSP or Fitch are ground fighters it looks like they’re more active.. Bottom line to this whole discussion is Silva > the rest of MMA MW division..
Not much to say past that point..
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Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
Really
Wait a minute you can not compare what Silva did in the last two rounds to GSP vs Hardy. The reason they look more active is because……..wait for it………..THEIR BEING ACTIVE. Silva did virtually nothing in the last two rounds and this entire thread is proof of that.
by darkside3744 on Apr 10, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Says you..
This is a subjective topic of discussion.. Which means opinions vary and there is no solid conclusion for either side..
So it’s applicable and valid in any argument..
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Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
NO NO NO NO
start reading the posts alot of people in here feel like there was something missing in those last two rounds.
by darkside3744 on Apr 10, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm one of them..
But I don’t need anyone else to tell me how I should feel..
I’m just saying to stop all the damn crying and bitching.. If you don’t like it, fine.. don’t buy a card with his fights.. I don’t see how that was difficult to comprehend..
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by MMAuthority on Apr 10, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we expect it because thats what MMA was built on! THE FINISH!
UFC 1 = no time , no judges, TAP , SNAP OR NAP …..the way it should be.
Boxing is a game
Kickboxing is a game
Submission wrestling is a game
UFC is suppose to be as real as it gets. Thats why we get disappointed.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
Maia was also flopping. He got active when Silva started to …(whatever you call the thing he did, cruising?).
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Those were failed take downs/ guard pulls
not flopping. IMO
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
I agree it happens
But you act like we shouldn’t be critical of it. If we accept it, it’ll happen more often. I threw down $60 to watch that this afternoon and feel like I was ripped off by Anderson, just like I felt I was ripped off when I attended UFC 97 for his fight with Leites. I’ve spent a combined $210 of my hard earned money so I’m going to get my bitch on when I feel like I’ve been gypped.
That's fine..
I’m not disagreeing that you should feel that way.. It’s your right to..
The point I’m getting at is that people are letting “the outcome only” of one single fight on a multiple fight card spoil their moods.. If you feel robbed from the Silva fight, that’s your right as a fan and consumer. But you also have to know going in that the “anything can happen in a fight” will and still does, always apply.. So therefore, you can’t get too bent out of shape because it’s par for the course in this type of sport.. The fight itself by majority admittance was entertaining for the majority.. Most admit to laughing or being entertained by the one sided affair Silva put on for the first 3 rounds.. So because the fight didn’t pan out with expectations, people feel like the fight was a bust.. That’s what I don’t understand..
We should all be critical of the situation.. But at some point, logic has to take over and we have to come to terms that it happened, it’s not the first time it’s happened and it won’t be the last time it’s happened and that it comes with the territory for the most part..
I’m not saying you have no right to be frustrated and upset.. I am too.. I’m just not going to bash the guy for dominating and then coasting to victory for what ever reason.. He showed me enough in the fight that I knew the end result before it was reached.. So I can’t complain with the route it took to get it there either.. Even if it goes against what “I wanted”..
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Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
"it’s not the first time it’s happened and it won’t be the last time it’s happened"
Sorry, I’m really not buying into your, ho hum, oh well attitude towards this, and I find these long, pseudo condescending rants telling us all to come to terms with it a little insulting to my intelligence.
You contradict yourself, you tell me to feel how I want to feel but then tell me to come to terms with it. It doesn’t work like that. As a fan and more importantly as a consumer, my disappointment about this is incredibly justified. This man depends on us going out and paying to see his fights to make a living, and once we’ve all been suckered in he doesn’t live up to his end of the agreement. It’s one thing to understand that bad fights and boring fights happen, but this was neither one of those things. This was a fighter who did enough to ensure himself a victory and then walked away.
Don’t sit here and tell me, “ho hum, he proved he was better, what else do you want?”. Bullshit, he has an obligation to at least put some effort into the WHOLE fight, not just punch out early. This isn’t JUST a sport, this is a PROFESSIONAL sport, which means that A) there’s a lot of money involved including my $60, which for a guy with student loans, car payments and a mortgage to pay off, can be quite a bit of money and B) the expectation that he carry himself like a PROFESSIONAL which he didn’t do in that fight this evening.
by Worldisart on Apr 10, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
actually what he’s saying is that eventually we will have to come to terms with it.
But at some point, logic has to take over and we have to come to terms that it happened,
I’m not sure about obligations and whatnot, but i do see a lot of very self righteous people posting crazy things like he should be stripped of his title, or never be allowed to fight again, etc. seems like a bit of an over reaction to me.
Thanks...
Someone with some “reading comprehension” and not on an emotional roller coaster rant that overlooks the actual text in place..
:)
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Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Apr 10, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
emotions are still running high after all this. i figure it will only get worse as the other PPV ends
LOL
I couldn’t agree more..
Read down the line of what I had to defend .. lol
I had people telling me I was contradicting myself because I said to quit bitching and crying over it.. When I clearly stated I was on their side, they just chose to read the final statement and take it out of context to run with it.. Then call me elementary in the process.. lol That was my highlight of the night !!!
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Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Apr 10, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
+4
I thoguht the card as a whole was GREAT.. Even the AS vs. DM fight.. I was entertained by the fight’s first 3 rounds and found myself up laughing at the sheer dominance of the fight.. I admit I was a bit underwhelmed at the outcome, as everyone else was.. But I’m not willing to sacrifice the guy at the stake for it either.. He proved within the first 13 minutes of the fight why he is the champ and that he wasn’t going to get beat.. That was more than enough for me to determine a plausible outcome, regardless of what path it took to get there.. I knew the fight was over by the middle of round two..
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Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Apr 10, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
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FOTN Grove vs Munoz
Dos Antos Submission (armbar)
DeMarques Johnson KO of the night ( Kick to body)
Attendance :11,008
Gate: 3.5 million
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dos Santos and dos Anjos have combined to form Colossus of Flat-top?
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Me as well Snakecharmer. I am devasted. So many ups and downs.
Grove Munoz was an EXCELLENT fight. I was very pleased with this!!!!!!!
Dos Anjos was beautiful got to see real slick JJ dominate
I dont even wanna talk about Penn ( throws up )
AS eh like the guy said throw the guy a serious challenge. Amazing display early in the fight though.
Just saw interview with Dana. He looked like he was crying on back stage before talking to Helwani. Sad.
Crying no. But super upset yeah.
I would be to. Silva could just fucked the UFC with Flash entertainment. The royal family could decide to get out of the UFC which would affect the whole casino issue for the Ferttida bros.
Anderson might have done more damage than people think.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew he was distressed when he began answering calmly and cogently. Only one f-bomb. He must be upset.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Could there be business fallout from Anderson Silva antics?
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
NO
One main event fight that had two lack luster rounds will not derail any pre-existing business plans or relationship that was already in place..
The conspiracy theory shit needs to stop.. :)
This is NOT that big a deal.. It was not a mockery of the sport, regardless of all the hyperbole being thrown around from emotional fans following a fight.. This is a “sport”.. Silva dominated his competition within the rules or guidelines.. Because it wasn’t satisfactory to certain peoples standards, all of the sudden it was a mockery of the sport and could derail a business venture for the company ???
lol..
Silva didn’t misrepresent the sport.. He’s never been in trouble outside the cage that we’ve known. He doesn’t go on record in interviews syaing he wishes to kill his opponents and break their necks.. That’s making a mockery of the sport.. At the end of the day, this is a sport after all.
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Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Apr 10, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
a fundamental aspect of sport is SPORTSMANSHIP
by Ozone on Apr 10, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
to clarify, Silva didnt disobey any rules of the octagon as you said, but sportsmanship often doesnt involve the black and white rules/regulations, but gray areas that can be exploited by basically being an asshole. If I jack a HR off your bp speed heater , and subsequently dance like Michael Flatley around the bases, its within the rules, but obviously very immature behavior/poor sportsmanship. The reason you dont see this is not as much as respect as it is accountability. Odds are next time I step to the plate, whoever is pitching is going to try to decapitate me with a baseball. If Silva isnt going to respect the sport, he needs to be held accountable so this bs doesnt happen yet again.
by Ozone on Apr 10, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You don’t buy a company, then shit yourself and quit because one fighter dicked off. Or if you do, you’d have bailed eventually. The UFC is a license the print money; that’s a lot more interesting to the people who bought in than Anderson Silva or any one fighter.
"an excellent example of why most MMA "journalism" is a joke. Pseudonyms like "toxic" and shitty writing like that dopey article"--- Joe Rogan.
Dana White Post UFC 112 interview is up.
http://www.youtube.com/user/ArielHelwani#p/a/u/0/Q2wlP_Vj3W0
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you know what screw anyone hating on Anderson
sure he Floyd Mayweathered his way to a win, but thats the sport
and there’s no rules against get. if Dana is pissed about it then he needs
to start promoting kickboxing, when the promoter gets to tell the fighters how to fight
thats when we end up with boxing and professional wrestling. Let the man fight how he wants to and if you don’t like it cut his ass.
And to the moderators whats up with all the fighter bashing? I thought y’all didnt allow that here?
This seems to be a good time for me to speak on this.
Since the Silva hate is high right now hopefully I can get you guys behind this and it can make its way up the well and we might actually see it.
If you want to see Silva get fucked up
Lets See
AS vs JOHN BONES JONES!
Silva is still a beast.
Silva claims the reason he used all 5 round to beat up on Maia was because he felt insulted by him. Maybe that’s why fans feel so annoyed by the whole thing. Silva is better than how he acted.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Except that Maia landed the better shots in the fourth and fifth rounds. Silva was gassed and doesn’t want to admit it or is insane.
by The Darkness on Apr 10, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
His performance today was embarassing
But don’t confuse him with being some chump who would lose to a guy who’s still a prospect that’s wet behind the ears.
I'm Silva's #1 Fan
And guess what? He just lost me. Not that he gives a damn because if he did he wouldn’t have pulled that crap. Ridiculous. Sickening. Strip him of the title. I dislike Chael so much but I will be his #1 fan when he fights Silva. I can’t overstate how pissed off I am at Silva now. After all this time of defending his crap against Leites too. Go jump off a cliff Anderson.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
silvas a dick
and whatever to that , but EVERYONE looks forward to the day the dick gets his ass kicked, and somewhere down the line thats gonna happen, i hope. too bad tho, cause the mufuggas got some talent, but i’ll never pay to see him fight, and there alot of people like me, and dana hates that.
He's a dick, and isn't so talented
And that was supposed to be the best P4P.
DISRESPECT for the one who disrespects.
RESPECT for the man who respects everyone and is humble and we all know who he is. F…
And Maia is a great person also, he wanted to show respect to Anderson in the begining by kneeling down to Silva like Silva did and it all it ended up that Silva was doing it for the crowd, embarrasing Maia in the process.
Its ridiculous to see a fighter showboat for 3 rounds and gas during the last 2 as a result. I love how he predicted he would bring his killer instinct back and gave us all false hope. This guy wants to have big super fights, but he should show he can perform in them. Some believe he is the best mma striker, but why in the world can’t he evolve being past a counter-striker? His main weapon of engagement is imitating bruce and playing the air guitar.
by work24 on Apr 10, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
P4P Ranking
1) Fedor
2) GSP
3) Spider
Do you know of ANY of Spider’s fights when he was NOT at a REACH advantage?? Well, I haven’t really seen him at a Weight/Height disadvantage either for that matter. Fedor has almost always been at a disadvantage in that matter. Plus, he is ALWAYS attacking whether on feet or on the ground. Even the rare fights that he doesn’t end, the opponent gets brutalized. Sure, it is unfortunate that he hasn’t come to terms with UFC. But he takes the best fights outside UFC (if Barnett hadn’t messed up, he would have fought him too, already). And don’t forget how respectful he is of other fighters (just like GSP). GSP is not #1 on my list because I don’t think he has a real KILLER instinct and his mental game is not at the level of Fedor. Last but not least, there is the small matter of no one EVER beating Fedor.
So that is my reasoning for my P4P ranking.
One thing I forgot to add is that Fedor fights his opponents’ strengths time and time again (on the feet against Crocop; on the ground against Nog). Compare that with Silva and GSP who stick to their strengths a little too much (of course, it doesn’t make you a bad fighter to stick to your strength; but at least for me, the risks Fedor takes gives him a point in my book of P4P rankings)
by NEDUMUDI VENU on Apr 10, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
forrest walks around heavier and is a coupler inches taller.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
Ignoring all the hulabaloo about the fight....
Why weren’t Anderson’s wrists taped in red?
I never thought that I’d be more irritated with Anderson than I was when he fought Thales Leites. I was wrong.
I did not see the first 2 rounds as a masterclass by Silva, as Goldberg and Rogan were so eager to inform me. For the first time ever I had to mute the commentary as it began to feel like I was watching a different fight to those two. Did anyone else do the same?
I can’t see how I’d ever want to spend money to see him fight again.
Rome said fans can expect Champions to Finish?
Same guy to say pseudo informed fans thing that GSP should go up in weight. I didn’t see much finish in GSP – I thought his fight was a bigger disrespect that AS performance.
AS was just showing different fighting styles in the first two rounds, I laughed at the fist cuffs. It was demeaning though
Thoughts on 112
First off, great job by Edgar. It was a close fight but I thought Edgar won.
The Phil Davis fight was good and the Munoz/Grove fight was a great way to start the show (on TV anyway).
The Hughes/Gracie fight was…meh.
The first 3 rounds of Silva showboating was somewhat entertaining. But going Kalib Starnes was weak. I wasn’t angry at Silva after the Cote or Leites fights but what he did against Maia was not good. He outclassed Maia but he should’ve made a statement by putting Maia to sleep and letting the fans see one more undercard fight.
I could see this delaying GSP-Silva because of the fights that both of these guys just had. Both faced inferior opponents and couldn’t finish them (though GSP at least tried) and I think Dana wants to make sure that his dream fight of the 2 best P4Pers isn’t a flop.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
The whole time Silva was messing with Maia
I had the feeling that Anderson was asking the UFC if they were ‘serious for putting this joke in front of him to fight.’
The UFC has a task ahead of them in terms of hyping up his next opponent. They keep saying the next opponent is going to be “the biggest test of his career,” but he’s making each new opponent look worse then the previous.
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