UFC 112 Results: Anderson Silva Humiliates Demian Maia, Angers Fans
by Nate Wilcox on Apr 10, 2010 3:57 PM EDT
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Anderson Silva came into this fight as a champion with a mixed reputation for not finishing outclassed opponents. His bout with Demian Maia did nothing to change that reputation. Silva won a unanimous decision over Demian Maia but won little with the fans.
Silva abjectly apologized to the fans for his poor performance and said it wouldn't happen again.
Middleweight champion Anderson Silva entered as an enormous favorite against Demian Maia. As dangerous as Maia was on the ground few gave him a chance to win it there against Silva. It was a slow fight for the first 90 seconds. Silva finally landed a brutal leg kick. Silva then came at him with a spinning back kick. Then Silva began kneeling to taunt Maia. Silva then began to attack Maia only intermittently. A crazy lunging jab landed for Silva. Maia went for a take down that missed. Then Maia ate a flying knee from Silva and was on his back. The ref forced Maia to stand again to end the round.
Maia entered the second to a contemptuous Anderson Silva. But Maia tried for a take down and got some low kicks for his troubles. But Silva spent most of the next two minutes taunting an intimidated Maia. And that's how he finished the rest of the round. Other than a few flurries Silva threw, the end of the round was a bit of a debacle as Silva taunted his countryman.
The third round continued the dreadful inert pattern of the earlier rounds. Then Silva taunted Maia with an incredible series of movements and threw only a couple of shots. Maia traded a straight for a kick to the body. Silva did the dreaded thigh punch. Silva jabbed as Maia landed then threw Maia off when he shot in.
Somehow Maia had survived into the championship rounds. Silva did nothing for the first minute and drew boos. Silva was doing nothing to win back disillusioned fans. Silva dwindled away minutes. By the end of the round Maia was mocking Silva who did nothing to stop it.
Maia entered the final round looking terrible after blowing a broken nose. Maia attacked madly at the third minute mark but scored no real damage. Silva looked tired but landed with a spinning back kick. Maia shot in for a fruitless take down attempt. Silva circled the ring as an angered Maia waved his arms. Then Silva scored with a combo. Then the ref called Silva for no action and threatened to take a point. Silva did nothing before the end.
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by StephenDedalus on Apr 10, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I can handle clowning then finishing, but if you just clown, clown, clown, and then do nothing to take a decision…I’ve gotta be against that.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 10, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
The ironic thing is that it seems that the constant clowning and showboating actually tired out Silva later on because he was doing A LOT of it, and nothing in the fight should have made him tired (save for the humidity). The thing is that it really seemed as if Silva could have finished him at anytime.
This fight though does say things about Silva. Despite how the fight looked, Silva still outclassed a high level fighter in Maia. Also, Silva seemed to know his range which really helps his takedown defense because Maia just couldn’t take him down. Silva’s takedown defense seems to have improved.
With Maia, he gets his props from me. The flurry on his knees in the fifth was awesome to me. He did try to stand and trade with Silva.
I agree..
Part of me thinks that Silva held back because he was Brazilian and didn’t want to really engage..
The other part of me thinks he got a little worn down after the adrenaline dump in the 3rd and just coasted because he could..
Either way… Maia had no chance in this fight, not even on the ground..
Sonnen offers nothing for Silva either, as much as you may htink he does.. Sonnen will get smoked and mocked just as much as Leities, Maia, and Cote.. Sonnen has just as sloppy stand-up and he’ll have to eat some to get close enough to grab Silva.. If Maia couldn’t do it.. Sonnen can’t…
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
nobody can beat anderson
hes fuckin ridiculous and the strangest fighter in the world
his talent is otherworldy but he never ever ever seems motivated for his fights and frankly just seems bored
just send him to heavyweight and have brock smash his face in to teach him some fuckin sense
I really think it was pretty ridiculous and inexcusable.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I seriously LMAO for two rounds, then I got bored, angry, then bored again.
I'm a lover not a fighter
by spectaa on Apr 10, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Consider this...
… Would Maia had allowed Silva to finish him on his feet?
Maia face was “pulp” and looked like he had been through a cheese grater after just two rounds of work. Everytime it got to a point that he felt he was going to get knocked out…
… He flopped to his back.
Silva wanting no parts of a guy who is a “gimme” championship contender but could do serious damage to his arms, legs, ankles by just being in combat with him opted not to go to the ground with him at all. In fact, it seemed as though he was seriously looking to get away from him whenever he did go to the ground.
I think Dana has to stop putting all these mediocre fighters in the ring with champions. With so many other interesting fights that could have been made (GSP, Rampage, Mir, etc) why put Anderson Silva, who is FAR SUPERIOR than any “up and comer”, in the ring just to say “you put him in the ring”?
I equate this to the NFL trying to make teams play games once they know their in the playoffs. What is in it for them?
What is in Anderson Silva beating Damien Maia/Thales Lietes/Patrick Cote? Its not the same as a GSP, is it?
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Apr 12, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Weird night
Kingpin BJ didn’t look like his usual self and Master Silva had a breakdown mid-halfway through the 3rd round.
Anyone else think a point should have been deducted in the 5th and maybe even the 4th?
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In the 5th I would have taken a point.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 10, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
BE scored it 48-47. A point deduction makes that a draw. MMAWeekly had the same scoring. Think about the insanity that would have ensued.
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Yeah...
I seriously would have scored the fight a draw with a point deduction.
That’s how awful Anderson Silva fought. He dominated Maia whenever he felt like it and was LUCKY that he didn’t get a point taken and end up with a draw.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Even with a draw..
He retained the title.. So what’s the point ??
Silva dominated the fight.. Didn’t put the guy away.. GSP does the SAME EXACT thing.. Why is it a double standard here ??
Either way the outcome was underwhelming, but the fight itself was exciting while it lasted.. Maia was scorched inside 3 rounds.. Silva took a couple off.. If people don’t like it, don’t watch his fights when they come p on the card or find a fighter that can “take” the fight away from him.. Because as far as I see… there isn’t anyone within 3, maybe 4 weight classes capable..
GSP would get made a fool on his feet and you’ll see much of the same as you did tonight.. It’s a BAD fight for GSP..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
cause anderson doesnt even try
he goofs off the whole time and dances and hides behind big dan
gsp fights the smart fight he knows he has a weakness if he catches a clean shot on the face so he doesnt let it happen he has dominant wrestling and uses it to beat everybody there is nothing wrong with that
Silva didn't fight the "smart fight" ?????
WTF !!! lol
Silva TORCHED him on the feet.. Then took two rounds off… You would think he did absolutely nothing in the fight but run the whole time the way you people are overreacting right now..
Maia had ZERO chance.. All that BJJ shit talk means absolutely NOTHING in MMA when you’re fighting a striker of that caliber.. Didn’t we all state that this was either going to be Maia “catching Silva early” or it could turn into a one sided Leites repeat ?? Blame the match making for the fight and Anderson for taking a couple rounds off.. But let’s not sit here up in arms as if Anderson did nothing in the fight and doesn’t deserve any good fortune..
Did it ever occur to people that he’s is actually “that good” and a smart fighter will dictate their fight and stay out of danger.. So the “outcome” was a bust.. Big deal.. The fight itself was still good action.. just one sided..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
he took 2 rounds off....
u cant fuckin take 2 rounds off and say that its not just a huge fuck u to the fans
i cant understand why silva does this he can so easily dominate and honestly seemed like he was perfectly capable of finishing the fight whenever he wanted too
against rich franklin twice anderson pushed the pace and beat the living fuck outta him but against maia he’ll just take 2 rounds off
i dont know if its that if he doesnt like the UFCs matchmaking he just wont give a fuck but its embarrassing to the sport
Thales didnt win the last two rounds. Maia did.
I like what you have to say almost always… but its not fair to call Maia = Thales. Maia did his best for 5 rounds. Thales is a joke that jumped on the ground for 5 rounds.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on Apr 10, 2010 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed. To this day I blame the Leites fight on Leites.
This one is on Silva…He clowned himself enough that some people don’t care to see him anymore.
Silva dominated the fight.. Didn’t put the guy away.. GSP does the SAME EXACT thing.. Why is it a double standard here ??
…Are you serious? You’re comparing actively shooting take downs, advancing positions, and endless ground and pound with running away and actively mocking your opponent?
by Shaun32887 on Apr 10, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Anderson Silva wants to get paid...
and this is no way to do it. People don’t want to watch this nonsense, and this is why he’s doesn’t have crossover appeal like GSP. Instead of building his name and creating a legacy he’s painting himself into a corner. Not only that he is insulting the fans and hurting the UFC brand. I get it,he doesn’t care….and neither will the fans,the sponsors and people who employ Silva. It’s a shame…because he only has so many exciting matchups left for him to get that big payday, which seems like the only motivation the Spider can get behind.
The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.
The point is that a draw isn’t a win. The point is that he was fighting a guy he could have knocked out at any point and who he was dominating…and instead he came away lucky to not get a draw. That’s a pretty big deal.
GSP does not do the same thing. He constantly engages. He may work from a safe position in being on top. But he is constantly engaging.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Brent..
I agree with what you’re saying.. I’m not defending Silva’s actions for the final two rounds.. But I’m not going to blast a guy that dominated a fight and decided to coast to victory..
It happens in all major sports at some point.. Some people enjoy the finish.. or the scoreboard run up.. I get that.. But I’m not going to cry about getting what I knew I was going to get as the outcome either..
I think we all knew this outcome was a very probable scenario because of the match-making for this fight. It has been discussed as a likely outcome for over the last two weeks here on this board and many others.. So why are people crying about it?? Do fans always get what they pay for or want ?? NO.. I’m sure there are plenty of Penn fans that feel he was robbed (of at least a portion of that fight).. ?? Were those fans given what they deserved ?? Did the fans of Shogun get what they deserved when he clearly beat Machida.. ??
These things happen.. People will get over it.. I understand the frustrations from the fans view.. But I’m willing to look at the “whole” picture and there was a lot on the line with Silva’s position.. He played it safe once he established his position.. It sucks.. But I’ll get over it.. I’m sure most of the rest will too…
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Apr 10, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well…I’m an advocate of the sport and I will never tell someone to pay for an anderson silva fight now. I am constantly being asked by non-mma people if the next UFC is something they should watch. I will now have to tell them no for any Silva fights that aren’t against GSP.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I should probably clarify. I will never tell them to order an AS fight at middleweight outside of rare exceptions.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you honestly not expect this sort of outcome possible ??
I know you’re smarter than that.. It’s ok to voice your frustration and opinion.. But let’s all be real here.. This was the most likely outcome, because we’ve seen it more than once before (even in the UFC)..
You want to see Silva’s full potential.. put him in with a better style matchup that favors the outcome.. Give him a pure striker and he’ll put him away.. Give him someone he doesn’t have to worry about just taking him down and looking for the submission.. Silva played it safe and smart.. It’s unfortunate that he chose the path of least resistance, but it’s not shocking either..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
I just gotta say
No. No no no. No one should have expected this.
You could expect a boring one sided beat down or just a bad fight, sure. But anyone who expected Silva to make a mockery of the sport like this, expected him to run away from not only take downs but punches as well… If anyone expected all that, they’ve taken leave of their senses.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
LOL
You act like Silva did nothing in the fight ??
It was a boring one sided affair… Look at Silva and look at Maia.. I’d say the proof was in the pudding.. Silva didn’t make a mockery of the sport ? where the hell do you get that bullshit from ??
Macking a mockery of the sport would be misrepresenting the sport away from the sport itself. Silva demonstrated he is far and above the level of talent current to his division and that you’re going to get these outcomes when you put him in with uni-dimensional BJJ guys.. He SCORCHED Maia and made a mockery of Maia.. not the sport..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
Where did i say he did nothing. I said he made a mockery of the sport and ran away. Both of these are facts. I’m not gonna argue with you about this.
I didn’t say he did nothing, but that’s a good point. considering what he DID do, and considering what he’s capable of, he really did do next to nothing.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
I was speaking relatively. “considering what he’s (Silva) is capable of”.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess i was trying to point out how bad Maia was in relationship to how awful people are making anderson out to be.
It’s his fight to do with it what he wants. if that’s how he wants to spend his 25 min in the cage, then so be it. there’s not much we can do to change that. Find someone that can make him fight, because until then, we’re going to get a lot of this out of him
Personally, I would have expected this outcome if Maia was backtracking, running away, or flopping. We have seen Silva not engage when his opponent was not engaging. In this case, in rounds 4 and 5, Maia was pushing forward and Silva was still not engaging, so no, I honestly expected Silva to engage because his opponent was willing to, not the opposite.
i think this fight is VERY similar to gsp/hardy
i blasted gsp for that damage-less humpfest and i’m gonna blast anderson for turning kaleb starnes once he locked up round three.
if you’re going to pull out of fights because you don’t think the event will draw enough viewers, you better be working your best to raise your own draw power.
right now anderson is leaching his money off more popular fighters. fuck it, he’s the ufc’s fedor.
He is the UFC’s Fedor as he is the best fighter in the org, but at least Fedor’s fights are exciting to watch. Fedor is very respectful to his opponents, and the man finishes fights in brutal fashion. I don’t enjoy his negotiating tactics but Anderson Silva is no Fedor. At this point even the Last Emperor is more marketable than the Spider.
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by Koob on Apr 10, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i totally agree. Anderson is one of my favorites (top three for sure) but
I was Really dissatisfied with Anderson’s willingness to coast through rounds 4 and 5.
That was very un-Jedi of him lol
I don’t agree with the fedor part, because I don’t know what you mean.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on Apr 10, 2010 5:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
negotioations with fedor and ufc
fell through, because fedor demanded 1/2 of all the back end money. back end money is the actual profits made from everything, tickets, ppv sales, advertising, merch etc. as one fighter on an 11 fight card, fedor would be 1/22 of the performers, and he was demanding 1/2 of the back end money. that’s essentially stealing half of every other fighter’s back end money.
anderson is doing the same thing, he and fedor are both trying to manipulate the game so they make money that other people are earning.
essentially
they won’t do the work necessary to make themselves bigger draws, they just want to leach off of more popular fighters.
I certainly hope that UFC does not reward Silva for this joke of a performance with a fight against GSP. If Silva wants to be a clown he should go join the circus, or he’s bored of MMA then he should retire, or quit UFC and go have his precious fight with Roy Jones Jr. I’m sick of Silva and all his BS. I’m done watching his “fights”.
Woah now...
It’s not like GSP is finishing fights either..
GSP is just as dominate as Silva is, just in a different aspect of the game..
Silva didn’t pull a Starnes here.. He crushed his opponent and then slowed down the final two rounds.. Was it exciting ?? Not once it slowed down and Silva obviously decided to coast, but it was a case of Silva already stamped his point on the fight..
No one can sit here and say they weren’t entertained for the first 3 rounds of the fight.. The only difference is Silva decided to coast from the 4th and 5th rounds.. Perhaps it was intentional, maybe it was fatigue and he was masking it.. Maybe he took a tough shot on the chin and decided not to risk anything..
Either way, if you don’t like it.. Don’t watch his future fights.. You’re going to get the same results when he’s put in there with a Brazilian..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
I’ve had a feeling that this will happen when I’ve heard that Maia trained with Silva and Nogs…
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's try again
He crushed his opponent and thenslowed downbasically quit fighting the final two rounds
FTFY
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Whoa now nothing. GSP at least attempted to finish his last fight. I’m not sure what Silva is trying to do out there. Maybe he’s trying to piss Dana off so badly that he’ll be let out of his contract so he can go have his little boxing match with an over-the-hill fighter.
And Silva didn’t crush anything but all the fans’ hopes of seeing him put on a legit performance. I can’t believe you’re defending him. Also, I WILL tell you that I wasn’t the least bit entertained with the first three rounds. He may have thrown a few strikes but he was clowning the whole time. I was fed up with his clowning the moment it started, and I already said in my first post that I wasn’t going to watch him anymore.
If Silva is so bored and he is THAT dominant then maybe he should get on the floor and submit Maia. That sounds a bit more challenging.
by Cliff Speed on Apr 10, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I admire your ability to get a rise out of people, you must be greatly enjoying yourself
by HarryBolsagna on Apr 11, 2010 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Anderson:
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 16 recs
Rec for Samuel Beckett
And the hilarious GIF.
by StephenDedalus on Apr 10, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I still haven’t read Portrait or Ulysses yet, but Dubliners was great. Have you attempted Wake yet?
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Ulysses and Portrait are amazing
Finnegans Wake too. Read it twice, first time on my own, second time with the aid of John Bishop’s Joyce’s Book of the Dark. Both times were rewarding, the second admittedly a bit more for obvious reasons.
by StephenDedalus on Apr 10, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I read the first ~200p of Ulysses, but then school interrupted me, so I couldn’t finish. I used to have contests with friends where we’d open Wake to a random part and start reading – whoever could read aloud the longest without breaking stride won. I don’t know if I have the patience to wade through 700p of it.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
fuckin' nerds
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Says the English major…
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Not at all. He liked my signature, so I began riffing on his user name.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
As i was reading the live blog and everyone’s reactions to the Silva fight, this is the exact thing i thought of, thank you for posting again
"The greatest enemy will hide in the last place you would ever look." - Revolver
by flyingkneetoface on Apr 10, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
What did my eyeballs do to deserve this?
"Well, yes, but I’m afraid I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I’m afraid I have something of a mess on my hands." - Tobias Fünke
"There are just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence." - Michael Bluth
One of my favorite lines from the best TV show ever.
I'm done with Silva
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
by 49er16 on Apr 10, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I was in Montreal when he fought Leites
And I can certainly sympathize with frustrated fans here. After that fight I gave Anderson a pass given his opponents gameplan. Not this time. One of the most disgraceful performances I’ve ever seen by a so called champion
by Worldisart on Apr 10, 2010 4:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
agreed
i’ll defend the cote and leites fights, but this was inexcusable.
and i wish after ed soares got done “translating” joe would have made a comment to the effect of “if that’s really waht he said…”
fuck you, silva. seriously. you ain’t jedi no more, may the bitch be with you.
what the fuck was the score?
it was obviously an intentional move to not read the scores.
i had maia winning R4 and R5, and i wouldn’t have been surprised if the judges that gave edgar a 50-45 gave maia R3.
everything dana white says is a complete lie
shit, i just blew my own mind --
those judges probably gave anderson a 50-45 decision…
and a handjob in the locker rooms.
everything dana white says is a complete lie
by slantedwindows on Apr 10, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
called it!
everything dana white says is a complete lie
by slantedwindows on Apr 11, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny how you mock unhappy people when you complained after the GSP fight, which was actually respectable. Hypocritical…
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
No, I will be the first to say I’m an Anderson nuthugger and I will in no way be rational. Am I disappointed, yeah. But its also only 1 and I haven’t been drinking here.
both of them won with positional dominance with only perhaps once coming anywhere near ending the fight and not really doing that much damage to their opponents. in all honesty the two fights were somewhat similar. if you accept that for gsp holding a person down is as easy as circling is for anderson.
GSP would have tapped most people in that fight twice. He also didn’t make a mockery of the sport and flee from his opponent.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can’t beleive people are actually comparing those performances. In what dimension am I?
I'm a lover not a fighter
gsp almost finished a fight once in a five round fight. maia looked worse than hardy after their fights.
gsp was more active and didn’t act like a dick, i’ll completely and totally agree with you on that. but the end results of their fights were the same. fought outmatched opponents they couldn’t finish. getting criticized for not being more active.
like i said, not as shameful, but the results are the same.
Twice. He almost finished at least twice.
How they looked after the fight is irrelevant for many reasons. For one, as Silva decided to goof around and disrespect the sport in his fight, likewise GSP decided he wanted the sub badly and obviously neglected other areas of his game like G’n’P to get it. Hardy did nothing to stop G’n’P, GSP just wanted the sub. So he couldn’t get the Sub. That’s it.
And the activity between the two is so hugely different as to not even be comparable. GSP was constantly working and advancing his position to look for the finish. Silva was break dancing and running away. From take downs AND strikes.
Just looking at the bottom line in these two fights as if that’s all that mattered is an ignorant thing to do.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
constantly looking for a sub you never get
makes clay guida or gray maynard boring, but it’s fine for gsp?
i gave gsp a pass against previous opponents because he at least managed to damage them. alves and fitch were both jacked up. hardy wasn’t. he fought a five round fight with a p4p favorite and came out of it still cocky and talking shit. maia can’t say the same.
gsp fought better, he tried harder and he should be more proud of himself for his performance, i’m not going to deny that. but he still played it safe and he still couldn’t finish a fighter he outclassed. you can say bottom lines are irrelevant, but i doubt either gsp or anderson finished their fights with as many fans as they started, and that’s a bottom line that is important.
Maynard doesn't try to finish fights.
Near kimura against Huerta aside.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
You compared Maynard's career to one fight from GSP.
Since when does Maynard constantly look for subs?
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
Want to explain no me how giving up dominant position to go for a RNC and ending up on your back is safe?
Or better yet, want to explain to Kendall Grove how that’s safe? I’m sure he’d get a kick out of that.
Again, you’re ignoring that GSP neglected other aspects of his game to get the sub. When he didn’t get that sub, all that means for sure is that GSP couldn’t sub him in that fight and that Hardy is one tough dude with pure guts and heart. It doesn’t mean he couldn’t finish him with other methods.
And Judging from the cheers and chants GSP just got at an event he wasn’t even participating in, his popularity is doing just fine. In fact you’re out of your mind to question it…
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by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
props
props to Dan mirg for letting Frank Mir get the beat down from hell and bitchn Silva out.
dude be regulating them bitches.
Fucking....
His shit is getting more ridiculous by the fight.
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NEVER been a fan.
Never will.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll like the KO itself, but not the KOer.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
I’m done with him.
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That's the point...
HE COULD HAVE DONE IT AT ANY POINT TONIGHT
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
thats not being fair to Maia.
If could have koed him he would have. At least that’s my feelings on the subject. MAIA never really gave Anderson a lot of openings. Anderson was for sure scared to clinch with him.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on Apr 10, 2010 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anderson likes to humilate people that don't belong in the ring with him
same thing with Leites and Coté, and now Maia. He really could have KO’d them if he really wanted to, but he decided to make them look bad. It’s like in wrestling, when you win by 15 points instead of pinning them to the floor, it shows superiority. Most people here don’t agree, but that’s how I see it anyhow
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
there’s a difference between humiliating a guy by outclassing rather than finishing (Leites fits, Cote would have if not for the injury) and completely going against the spirit of the sport by refusing to engage (especially when the other guy is more than willing) and taunting.
What Anderson did today =/= winning by 15 in a wrestling match by constantly engaging, getting takedowns, working some near falls, even letting back up to takedown again. you can physically humiliate a guy and still stay within the spirit of the sport, but Anderson was just a big giant douche today, to Maia, to the fans, to the people who pay him.
what the fuck goes through your head to fight like an asshole to the point your employer goes to your corner between rounds to tell you to ‘finish this motherfucker, or at least engage’ and then you continue to fuck around like an asshole?
I can definitely understand most people’s frustration with Anderson, I’m not a fan of his by a long shot, but I personally like his antics (specially within the first three rounds, the last two were painful for sure), it does show superiority in my eyes but I understand that most people will not enjoy. Had the fight gone like the first three rounds I would have loved his performance, but within the last two he just stopped for some reason, so now I’m a bit torn. My example was only to illustrate humiliation and not engagement, but I understand you point of view.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Anderson is the Sir Lancelot of MMA.
He’s cursed with being too F-ing good. He really should have finished Maia, though. Disappointing.
At first I was entertained by Silva...
He was showing just how much he outclasses Maia.
But as the fight wore on I began to grow impatient with Silva. Now, I give Silva a lot of leeway with kind of stuff. Mostly because Anderson Silva is the reason why I even started watching the UFC in the first place. However, this just became absolutely ridiculous. At some point you have to finish things if you are truly the better fighter. Silva just looked like he did not care whatsoever, he was bored with this fight.
I may be a big Silva fan, but he has definitely annoyed me with this fight.
#52
im sorry
but that was pretty bad. after that i think fedor is best p4p atleast he will finish his fights. gsp is now ahead of anderson. he outclassed maia today but when he started the knee kicks i knew it was leites all over again
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Yeah, shuffle your little p4p ranking…
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Serious question
Where is Edgar on that list. He has to be cracking it now right? He’s behind the big three in GSP Anderson and Fedor, but then where. Is he after Lyoto?
idk
ask dancing chicken apparently his p4p rankings are perfect
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by nog on Apr 10, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t have p4p rankings. I have better things to do in my spare time.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
My p4p rankings took me about five minutes
About as long as it took me to comment on this blog strangely. What do you do in your spare time though, do you make papier machete hats?
I hope I didn’t offend you p4p ranking. Sorry if I did.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And to be honest, if on Friday you’re the best p4p and on Saturday you’re not, then this title doesn’t mean much
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Daniel Day Lewis is a ridiculous overactor
PTA’s best movie is Boogie Nights and No Country for Old Men is the Anderson to There will be Blood’s Forrest Griffin.
Dude...
don’t be a dick.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
most entertaining fight on the card
please keep doing this anderson because its great and also its really fun to watch people cry
10 out of 10 people who don’t use vowels agree, that was a great fight.
by Dropkick434 on Apr 10, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yhhhhy
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
by Rayce. on Apr 10, 2010 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is why superfights are awesome
People always argue that they love to see one fighter dominate a division for years. I do not. When you have a incredibly dominant champion you get fights like this, or like the Hardy fight. Anderson needs to forget about the middleweight strap and just take fights that make sense. Sonnen makes sense, GSP makes sense, Shogun makes sense, Mir makes sense. Lets just see some fights.
I don’t think people truly realize how disrespectful Anderson Silva’s actions tonight were to the sport of Mixed Martial Arts.
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by FlyByKnight on Apr 10, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I could sort of understand the Leites disrespect as Thales just butt-flopped on the rare occasions that Anderson tried to engage with him and I’ll never criticise somebody for not stupidly playing somebody else’s game. But Maia never backed off, he always stood in front of him and was always looking to win the fight, yet Anderson was still a complete dick towards him.
My brother was finally going to watch a whole card later tonight for the first time. Now I have to warn him of completely uncommon douchery in the main event.
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One of my favorite lines from the best TV show ever.
I'll repeat myself from the live blog.
I really hope this is the end of the “Anderson is bored because he’s sooo much better than his opponents” train of thought.
Take away all the dancing, taunting, and hubris. What you’re left with is a supremely talented fighter who is afraid to engage.
Let’s see the rising wave of people discounting Fedor as the #1 fighter in the world try to explain this one away, too.
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So we can now all agree GSP is the #1 P4P, right?
by Tedd Welch on Apr 10, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
GSP was the big winner tonight
Its between him and Fedor, but when you look at recent competition there is no competition. It has to be Georges.
Seriously?
Maybe its because he has fought the clear number 2 at welterweight in the two prior fights in Alves and Fitch.
Irrelevant. They were no longer champion level fighters at that point. The only people who buy this argument are the ardent Fedor fans like you who parrot it ad naseum.
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by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor’s last 5 fights:
Rogers
Arlovski
Sylvia
Hong Man Choi
Lindland
GSP’s last 5 fights:
Hardy
Alves
Penn
Fitch
Serra
So that’s GSP beating the #2, #3, #6 and #13 welterweights and the #1 lightweight. And Fedor beating #8, #10, #19 and two unranked heavyweights. I would say that GSP’s strength of schedule is way better.
by ricker2005 on Apr 10, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
go by rankings at the time of the fight
cause fedor beat alovski and sylvia when they were highly ranked
and gsp beat serra when he was #1
gsp still wins this comparision though but everybodys rankings are higher
I love gsp's "knees of death" gnp and his wrestling.
However fedora gets points for knowing how to complete basic subs. I am still disappointed he didn’t break Hardy’s arm!
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by Rayce. on Apr 10, 2010 5:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he was the #5 ww in the world
and he fought him cause hed already beaten 2-4
there is no clear #1 p4p right now besides gsp anderson silva doesnt wanna fight anyone and fedor doesnt fight the best
gsp has already beaten the best
all thats left at ww for him is rematches hes literally beaten everybody who has ever mattered at that divison
and the mw division is the weakest in mma anderson outclasses everybody and then just goofs around i have no idea whats up with the guy
diaz and shields
Nick Diaz and Jake Shields are better than anyone gsp has beaten recently! i don’t give a shit about rankings. Diaz could handle ANYONE gsp has beaten recently. he easily subs finch, outstrikes alves, and absolutely works hardy at any area of the fight! did u guys see what he did to scott smith and shamrock, he made those 2 look like amateurs. scott smith has never been that outclassed on his feet, diaz made easy work of him. fedor doesn’t see a guy with 5 pro fights as top priority (lesnar n cain), he doesn’t see guys with 6 losses as top priority (mir). fedor wanted to fight barnett, the concensus #2, it wasn’t fedor’s fault it didn’t happen
Demian Maia is the best? Dan Hardy is the best? No they aren’t. Don’t buy into everything you hear from UFC promos.
Lol. You’re ridiculous.
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by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva is above Fedor. Penn was too imo.
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by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson Humiliates himself
Anderson legitimately lost exchanges in the fourth and fifth round and looked tired. His wrestling was the only thing surprising about his performance.
i gotta think he did it on purpose
he coulda finished maia whenever he wanted
anderson definetly has something against dana though so he goes out dominates 3 rounds and then just does nothing for the last 2
is it cause dana is forcing him to stay at mw and defend his belt when he really wants to go to heavyweight? i literally have no idea
Maybe he felt bad after looking at Maia’s face “oh you poor little fucker, I’ll let you free…”
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
the guys a fuckin mystery
send him in the octagon against brock next and let brock turn his face into hamburger meat its what he deserves
I actually don’t think he could have, and surely when Maia was unloading on him in the fifth round he could have done something to stop Maia since he was standing right in front of him. I actually think Rogan called it right for once — Silva was tired and didn’t want to show it. Watching the fourth and fifth rounds was kind of like, I’d imagine, watching the Washington Generals and Harlem Globetrotters play when the Globetrotters lost.
by The Darkness on Apr 10, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrestling < Sweat
He showed some decent wrestling at times, but I felt like more than anything he was just slippery; he was able to just muscle out whenever Maia got a hold of him.
I wish Henderson was still around..
Anyone know if they are doing a post-fight presser on the site?
"My fighting career is getting in the way of my Marijuana smoking" - Nick Diaz
"May 8th, whoop a fraggle" - Paul Daley
And people actually audacity to call GSP’s last fight boring? I’ll take “lay and pray” over “dance and prance” any day
by joshyboy708 on Apr 10, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
You know
The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Both of those fights could have been boring. Anderson’s just slightly moreso.
Silva abjectly apologized to the fans for his poor performance and said it wouldn’t happen again.
what the fuck… didn’t he say that shit after the thales leites fight??
I’ll wait for the official BE translation.
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by a tommy point on Apr 10, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
aren’t there any brazillians on this board
by nogroundgame on Apr 10, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Orcus already confirmed thats more or less what he said.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 10, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i figured
with the body language and all, but i’d like a public acknowledgement, with anderson and soares present, that we all know that soares has flat out lied to us in the past. i’d like to see joe pull an impartial translator in the cage and refuse to talk to soares.
The best part of the fight...
I think he made up for all his shitty calls in the past.
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shadaaaap
You hate mma. :)
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm no
This man is a disgrace to the sport that endangers peoples lives through ignorance and neglect. He should be banned, period.
by Jonnycaz2.0 on Apr 11, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
He earned his tan tonight.
I have no idea what that means.
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by a tommy point on Apr 10, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw Dan actually push Silva away from him during the fight when he got too close..
Poor reffing as usual. Dan should have been in there pushing action
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"May 8th, whoop a fraggle" - Paul Daley
I think we have to accept that fact that Tan Dan is “special” when it comes to refereeing fights.
If even it happened with under 2 minutes left in the 5th round, it is a monumental achievement for him to have stepped in and warn Anderson about running away.
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by a tommy point on Apr 10, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
anderson was being cute
and actually keeping dan between him and maia. that’s why dan shoved him.
i actually agree though, he should have been warned in the fourth and deducted a point in the fifth.
It wasn't where he hid behind him it was earlier
Silva was circling and ran into Dan just standing there and Dan gave him a push
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anyone else notice
When he raised Silva’s hand, how quickly he released it.. sorta like he was disgusted by him haha.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i noticed
i didn’t think he looked at him to congratulate him either, turned over his other shoulder and just walked away. they’d been jawing at each other before the announcement too. it kind of looked like anderson was apologizing, but that’s just a guess from the body language.
Buffer didn't even give a fuck with the announcing him the winner either
"My fighting career is getting in the way of my Marijuana smoking" - Nick Diaz
"May 8th, whoop a fraggle" - Paul Daley
Pretty sure lots of people were annoyed.
I heard Joe say during commentary that Dana walked over to Ed Soars in between rounds.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a mixed bag with this card. It started off so good with Munoz coming back to win his fight, I even enjoyed Hughes picking Gracie apart. But the title fights were disappointing to say the least – BJ wasn’t himself, and Silva was just too much of himself.
Anyone know if the post-fight press conference will be show live online somewhere?
I’ve been looking for it, but can’t find it.
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Most will be buying the PPV at 10PM
I wouldn’t be suprised if the post presser is later tonight or even tomorrow
"My fighting career is getting in the way of my Marijuana smoking" - Nick Diaz
"May 8th, whoop a fraggle" - Paul Daley
The BJ-Frankie fight was great, this was a joke but that’s ok because Chael Sonnen is going to smash Silva’s arrogance right out of him once he gets a hold of him all this bs will end badly for Andy.
Chael Sonnen:
Republican.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Champion.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be rooting so hard against Anderson if that fight ever takes place.
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by a tommy point on Apr 10, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly think the man to beat Silva at MW is Sonnen.
Not just cause I’m a fan.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Counter-punchers need Punchers
You can’t match Anderson against a jits guy who can’t take him down. Blame Joe Silva for what was bound to be a boring fight. Did they not learn from the Lates fight?
But blame Anderson for acting like an ass. We’re not stupid, Silva, we see your opponent standing there not running away and yet you egg him on as if he were the only one not initiating. It’s okay to be a counter-puncher (like Chuck), just don’t try to clown your opponent when they don’t fall for it.
Belfort, GSP or Sonnen – those are the only fights that should be next for The Dancer.
by Django Z on Apr 10, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 11 recs
EXACTLY..
+1
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
good shit.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t Maia crack Silva a couple times in the fourth and fifth round? I’m going with the Silva gassed theory for this fight. It’s time for Silva to fight a god honest wrestler. Calling Chael Sonnen.
by The Darkness on Apr 10, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yup.
I’m convinced he was just tired, and ran around the ring being funny to throw people off.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Apologies, i posted before I read your post (what a jerk I know). You made some great points. Rec’d
by The Darkness on Apr 10, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
i think maia was giving anderson things to work off of in the fourth or fifth that anderson was just running away from. that’s why this fight sticks out to me more than the cote or leites fights. his opponent was willing to engage on the feet and he ran.
And it was a guy who isn't even a striker.
Maia impressed the hell outta me.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree entirely.
The rules of the sport require aggression. It’s right there in the rules.
Anderson should have been penalised for passivity, and he should have been penalised for it more than once.
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Yeah awesome argument, every fighter deserves to be matched up with a specific type of fighter to ensure an easy knockout. This is MMA were you are supposed to fight your opponent at his weakest area. If Silva is strongest counter punching, than why in the world would you be the aggressor? Counter punchers don’t deserve special treatment because they just fucking stand there if there opponent fights the exact same way. The problem wasn’t the style matchup, it was Silva’s complete failure to fight in the last 2 or 3 rounds.
by Dropkick434 on Apr 10, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
misunderstanding
I’m not saying Silva should be fed only Punchers, just that it was bound to be a boring fight and that the match-maker deserves some of the blame for that.
Silva needs to beat whoever is put in front of him and he did a half-assed job of it today.
some good points here
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
ok can we beg for this fight please i really need to see anderson catch a beatdown
anderson vs brock lesnar
let brock loose on anderson and take him down and repeatedly use his masturbation punches to beat the living fuck outta silva
silva needs to get his ass kicked and really brock, and carwin are the only ones who i think could do it right now
no
lesnar and carwin could pound his face in and we need to see anderson catch a beating
Your assuming far too much
If MW’s cant catch him what makes you think 265 pounders will?
absolutely nothing
but the visual of carwin or lesnars xxxl gloves repeatedly gnp’ing silva is really really nice
a thought
machida recently won the first three rounds of a fight and then got f’ed up for the next two and still won.
perhaps anderson took that as an example. lock up your win and for the next two just DON’T get f’ed up.
Machida and Anderson
Have a secret alliance to piss off MMA fans everywhere. So far so good. Its diabolical really.
Hmm...
Dana should be putting Anderson into a heavyweight fight with Frank Mir. Only fight i’m interested in outside of GSP. Sonnen will make for a funny fight too, but i don’t see him winning.
oh yea
Forgot about that guy. I think that would be a good fight for him whether machida wins or loses. If shogun loses again that’s 2 losses to the champion and he’ll have to wait for a while anyway. If he wins, even better with title implications.
The next matchup for Silva should be against someone who is not a good stylistic match up for him, namely, a wrestler. I don’t care whether it’s at MW (Sonnen), LHW (Evans) or MW (GSP, Fitch or Koscheck).
by The Darkness on Apr 10, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the card was awesome on the whole, and if nothing else Silva’s performance gave us something to talk about. As an admittedly huge GSP nuthugger, I found it very satisfying to hear his name chanted and I feel even more certain in my belief that GSP would pulverize Silva, especially in a five round fight.
according to kevin lole
@DaveFarra Intentional. He threw it down after fourth round and stomped out #UFC #MMA
We need Vitor Silva.
But wait Vitor will prob bitch out.
Im starting to think Griffen is the most manly out of all of them.. To know u are running into the abyss and do it anyway.
Bottom line
People are just too scared to fight Anderson. At this level of competition that is just insane.
What are you talking about. Did you miss Maia punching off his knees like a hero? All the other times he engaged besides knowing he was out matched. He wasn’t scared of shit, guy.
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by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
As weird as Anderson is I know how he works.
He calculates you for the first round showboats if hes comfortable.
2nd RD he gives you an oppurtunity. You know when he was pounding his chest. That is your oppurtunity to be finished.
I much rather be Griffen then Maia or Leites. Still got love for you Forrest! At least you went out like a man these other guys rather be humilated
Iole says the scores were 50-45, 50-45 and 49-46. How the fuck did anyone give Anderson the fifth round?
He also says that Dana walked out of the arenaafter the fourth round.
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I don’t want to see GSP vs. Silva after tonight. Silva might be the first champion fighting on a prelim. I don’t want to see that sh*t
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Maaaaaaaan… I still want that fight bad. How often do you get to see the # 1 & 2 guys fight? And besides, if Silva clowns GSP like this, it won’t be pretty for him.
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by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, good on ya!
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by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
We will see it within the next 24 hours
Someone will be positng it, most likely FanHouse or Yahoo! But it will see the light of day soon.
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Glad to see that Dana gets it.
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by a tommy point on Apr 10, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
More from Iole: @danawhite said Anderson Silva might be first champion in history to fight on prelim card. He is PISSED
that will never happen
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i wouldn't want to be around him
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The person who should be the most pissed at Anderson
Is Frankie Edgar. Anderson effectively bored away his moment.
by Neil Manich on Apr 10, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
How Frankie ruined my parley? Hughes-BJ-Renzo was such a nice, soft parley…I would have netted ~$3500 on it…
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Hughes/BJ/Renzo?
That’s a really hard parlay to win innit?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit…Hughes/BJ/Silva…
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay. that makes more sense.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
ouch, you must have wagered about 3500 cause that sounds like a 1:1 parlay. I lost about that much on jones v. hamill
Closer to ~$4300. I would have had appx $12K had Penn won.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
Maybe Frankie will get some atenttion next week, I hope.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
true.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
SI's article is already up
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/mma/04/10/penn.upset.ap/index.html?eref=twitter_feed
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I don’t really have a problem with it. I do with the 50-45 score which is ridiculous, but it was a close, either guy could have won it decision.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
If Dana is truly pissed at Silva he will have him fight one wrestler after another until his time at the UFC is finished. No more middling strikers. No more uni-dimensional BJJ guys. And not a brawling wrestler either. A guy who’s sole goal is to take you down and pound on you until the end of the fight (a la, e.g., Fitch or Sonnen).
He has 6 fights on his contract. It would be tough to find 6 wrestlers.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Make him fight Sonnen 6 times
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Apr 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you want Sonnen to die?
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
How can Sonnen die?
Silva would just be dancing and prancing around the octagon all night long again, anyway…..
It will be even worse
The best pure wrestler in the division is in Strikeforce, anybody even close to his ability will get worse treatment than he did.
Gotta love the one liners
Always thinking it makes up for lack of sound logic somehow
The Best Pure Wrestler??? Whom are you referring to?
The Best Pure Wrestler is currently the UFC Heavyweight Champion.
Are you saying that there is a Better WRESTLER than BROCK??? And I mean REAL Wrestling here(don’t you dare bring up that WWE crap)….
Frankie was the mvp of the ppv, I bet you when the UFC replays this ppv on Spike they will take out the Silva fight and make BJ vs. Edgar the ME.
This card won’t go anywhere near a Spike broadcast, Dana will probably burn the footage after he’s finished raving.
They got good mileage out of the Shogun/Chuck KO.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
just like they will with edgar penn
but the silva main event will be burned
Don’t burn it – that’s blackmail for his next contract negotiations.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He showed guts and he was winning striking exchanges in the last 2 rounds. Sorry…but there were multiple exchanges where both guys threw and Maia landed the better shot.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Mad props to him. He came to fight. When the crowd started to chant Maia’s name, I think that’s when the higher-ups at Zuffa realized Silva will never be a marketable fighter.
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I think you can still spin him
As a mega villain. I mean, he is poised to be the Ric Flair of MMA, if he ain’t already
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry but you did NOT just compare Silva with The Nature Boy.....
Ric’s always been popular with the Fans since day one of his career as an “entertainer”.
Silva is an otherwordly MMA Talent.
Apples and Oranges.
But what kind of a win was that? I give him props, but he won those rounds because Silva was not in the octagon.
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not his fault...
I mean…all Maia can do is do what Maia can do.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but everyone will say it’s what Silva let him do. I give Maia credit, but it’ll be hard to rally popular support around the guy
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
After what Silva did,
I wouldn’t be surprised if when Maia gets in the Octagon again in the future, that he has a few more fans than before this debacle-of-a-fight.
AS fought a Machida like fight except more entertaining. How do you fight opponenets that don;t engage for 4 and a half rounds?
If you don;t like AS you don’t have to watch. I will enjoy watchin this legend till the day he retires/
Except, you know, for the fact that Maia did engage him.
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by FlyByKnight on Apr 10, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right. He was walking forward and trying to throw punches and engage. Silva circles and at times legitimately ran away.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Like, literally sprinted away in fear. It was farcical.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never seen a counter-striker run AWAY from someone charging in full steam at them.
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Right...
that’s what you WANT when you’re a counter-puncher. A guy coming to you and winging punches. Maia was going for broke with the punches he was throwing.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think Maia earned a lifetime of Dana’s respect in that fight for taking the fight to Anderson, not backing down, and actually taunting (and yelling) at Silva to strike with him.
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except for not having the title as long as SIlva is a MW
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The title is just a freakin' Prop right now....
It might as well be the Million-Dollar-Belt that Ted DiBiase once wore to the WWE ring. It’s worthless.
Which is why I was shocked that a point wasn’t deducted in either the fourth or the fifth.
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"AS fought a Machida like fight except more entertaining. " - p123
It appears that many here have a different definition of what is considered “more entertaining” than your definition.
Fedor/Brock = Record Breaking PPV Buyrate and Sales
Fedor/GSP = Great Technical battle
Fedor/Silva = A Game of Tag, courtesy of the Running Man Silva. (TAG! Fedor..You’re it. You can’t catch me)
I wonder if Dana would risk setting up Velasquez-Anderson right now. A pure wrestler and athlete against a showboater. Or maybe Jon Jones versus Anderson Silva.
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In about 2 years
Bones-Spider would be a heck of a fight. Not now.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Doesn't have trouble
taking down his opponent so far. Look, I’m as big a Bones fan as you will find. But there’s no way in hell he needs to be in a cage with Spider right now. Not yet.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Do you think that Bones would get destroyed? Or that it doesn’t make sense from a matchmaker’s point of view?
I don't think Bones would win
But I don’t think it would be a beat-down. I think it would be very tactical positioning, and Spider would get in one series of strikes that could end it.
But if you give Bones 2 more years of fighting good/great fighters and training in top flight camps (like he’s doing now), I’d put my money on Bones in 2012.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Actually, with Bones’ Height, reach, and awesome wrestling…even if he’s green, he’s still got a shot.
And his unorthodox striking skills. He might actually keep Silva off-guard a little bit.
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It's preposterous to think Jon fuckin' Jones would beat Anderson Silva
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Not right now.
But in 2 years? I’d say he could have a very good shot at it.
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its preposterous to think frankie fuckin edgar can beat bj penn.....
by milk72 on Apr 10, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
touche
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i love how ufc 111 and 112 were supposed to be these awesome star packed cards
and yet 108 and 109 were way better in terms of fight quality
110 was the bomb, best card of the year
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
They were just doing Renzo a solid signing him in the first place
He doesn’t need to fight anyways, he makes plenty of cash. If people start calling Hughes the new Gracie killer I’m going to be pissed.
ahhhhhh
my bad.
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i love helwani
by far the best reporter in mma
Anderson: Unfortunately, not every fight turned out the way everyone would like. Demian disrespected me, not as a person, but as a fighter
Per AH. Really Anderson? Really?
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Holy fucking shit...
Anderson: Unfortunately, not every fight turned out the way everyone would like. Demian disrespected me, not as a person, but as a fighter
- Helwani’s twitter
I specializes in grammar fail.
AS: I came here to punish him.
from helwanis twitter and damn im confused by that
FU Anderson
Demian disrespected you as a fighter? Dude’s one of the nicest guys in MMA. He only wanted to submit ppl.
GO DIAF
You never know, maybe maia trashed the clown profession, and Silva took offense.
I'm a lover not a fighter
Maia out and out refuses to fuck on the first date
That’s insulting to Anderson.
by Neil Manich on Apr 10, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Silva: basically, im not too sure what school demian came from. i sent a message because he disrespected morally by the things that he said
Per AH. This dude is a fucking bum.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
Anderson Silva is delusional.
What a jerk. I’m done cheering for him. He’s an embarrassment to say what he’s saying now.
I specializes in grammar fail.
The only thing Demian said on the Countdown show as that Anderson was human and could be beaten.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Apr 10, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
silva: im a black belt, and would never say the things that he said
Per AH. Why didn’t you go to the ground with him to test out that black belt, huh? He more than happily stood and traded with you.
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Mike Straka says Anderson started out as hilarious, but then wonders if he crossed the line. DW responds, this isn’t a comedy show.
he lost the crowd on the fourth and fifth round
I’m torn towards anderson really, I love his antics (I know I’m in the minority) but at the same time I wish Maia would have put him to sleep when he tagged him on the fifth round.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Per AH.
Soares says that was a long one for me to remember, but in a nutshell, he came in with a strategy and did what he did
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More lies from Soares.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Apr 10, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
they’re one and the same
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess trying to thigh punch, front kick the knee, and showboat for five rounds wasn’t disrespectful.
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Per AH.
Reporter asks Silva if he owes the fan’s an apology. Answer coming … Silva’s answers are very long in portuguese, translations are shorter
Guaranteed lies from Soares.
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AS: I don’t feel like I owe anyone an apology right now. Sometime’s fights turn out good, sometimes they turn out bad.
funny how he apologized after the fight though
and won’t in the PC
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
From Helwani
Silva’s answers are very long in Portuguese, translations are shorter
That’s because Soares has to censor all the times Anderson says he hates the fans and that he has fucked all of our mothers.
by Neil Manich on Apr 10, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Per AH.
AS: I don’t feel like I owe anyone an apology right now. Sometime’s fights turn out good, sometimes they turn out bad.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
For the records, GSP apologized for winning a landslide decision (and getting close to a finish twice).
Just sayin…
I'm a lover not a fighter
GSP
is a nicer guy than most fighters, that’s not a fair comparison
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
GSP is a bully – he once beat up a cabbage patch kid.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ok dudes...
Everyone’s posting the same ish over and over lol.
We’re gonna get updates regardless.
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I’m gonna be an asshole at work on Monday. If someone says something to me about it, I’m just going to say that I’m incapable of such a thing because I’m a black belt.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Apr 10, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
LOL!
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahaha
That’s an awesome fucking idea!
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by poundnground on Apr 10, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
no way the p4p douchebag list is like this
1. tito
2. brock
3. mir
4. anderson
5. the AKA wws
maybe if silva was speakin english hed be more douchey but u can only rank so high through an interpreter
This sounds like an epic flame war topic
Rank MMA’s assholes
BTW, Harris didn’t damage Drwal’s knee. I don’t know if this was reported…
by dancingChicken on Apr 10, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Does War Machine still count as a fighter?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He tweeted that he has a fight coming up
But he also tweeted that he was getting his life together so I don’t know how reliable that source is.
argh, totally forgot about him. Might have to make a separate list for insane ppl. They arent really douchebags, theyre just lunatics.
p4p lunatics
1. junie browning
2. war machine
3. krazy horse
4. tito (hes such a douche its insane)
5. that guy with all the white power tattoos and the i have a small penis one
5 = Melvin Costa
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 10, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Per AH.
AS: my goal in the fight was to finish the fight if i had the opportunity to. … I wanted to come in to make a point.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
If anyone can get me the video of AS's press conference
I will gladly translate it as portuguese is my first language
It will be on UFC.com
after the replay PPV tonight, I would guess.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Bullshit
“Silva abjectly apologized to the fans for his poor performance and said it wouldn’t happen again.”
I dont believe him, he is gonna again and again and AGAIN because he did that 3 times!!!
Per AH.
AS: The way I feel is my mission was completed. I cam in and dominated the fight.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
I think Maia took the fifth round for sure, who is this judge that keeps giving 50-45? Cecil was working today?
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I think AS let Maia hit him in the 5th round
and he did no damage whatsoever. The truth is Maia should have never been given a title shot, he’s simply not good enough
by pedro_oliveira on Apr 10, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed that Maia didn't deserve the title shot
but I think Anderson did get tagged in the fifth because he wasn’t really expecting it. Once it happened he had to get away and regroup. If he was focused it wouldn’t have happened
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
And Silva made a great job proving that, by letting himself get hit on purpose, just to show the world how lame Maia is and how he never deserved a shot, sweet logic.
I'm a lover not a fighter
i feel bad for the other fighters if this is all thats getting discussed
well maybe not hughes so much.
Agreed!
Frankie Edgar just became the first lightweight to beat the monster BJ Penn in how many years? And we’re everyone’s talking about the non-fighting rather than the fighting that took place tonight.
Anderson never acts like that when its against a known fighter or a real threat.
I think Anderson is showing the UFC that he wants BIG NAME FIGHTS, and not cans.
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
it worked the last time he did that
after Leites he got a big name in Griffin, maybe it’ll work again this time, with GSP…
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
I highly doubt Dana wants that fight now after what Silva just did. He made himself no friends tonight.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
Dana won’t let him, and I’m glad he won’t, you can’t just choose not to fight when you don’t like the opponent, seriously I pay for this shit, that’s not cool.
I'm a lover not a fighter
you'd be surprised
Dana was pissed last time too, he felt he needed someone that brought the fight to Silva, that’s why they gave him Forrest, he’s probably going to get another big name after tonight, might not be GSP but it could be Frank Mur!
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
The other people are missing is how much fans want to see Silva lose now. He might draw fans who love him but put him against someone they think has a shot and he might suddenly be a draw. People forget Mohammed Ali was despised in his early days, which is why everyone had to see him fight.
by John Nash on Apr 10, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if you put Anderson against
GSP, Shogun, Mir, etc, you can bet people will watch it
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
It may not be cool, but i think its gana work for Anderson.
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
Idk, who really knows whats going on, but its just a guess.
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
Dana sounds like he's done catering to Silva's whim.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Maja and Thaleis are really gana beat Anderson, and he knows that and they know that, they wont bring in PPV’s. (ps, not sure if i spelt Thaleis right)
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
i ment "arnt really gana beat Anderson"
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
Ok, misuse of the word can then. But what can you do? The guy needs to defend his belt, that’s how it works, that’s what other fighters do. We give them the best guy there is at the time and he crushes them, or not.
I'm a lover not a fighter
A can is a fighter who has a very slight chance of winning, Maja and Thaleis fit that discription imo, it may be true that they can beat other top MW and maybe every fight Anderson gets into will be against a “can” because he is so good. But what i mean is that they have a low chance of winning, and they arent really known, which is the oppesite of what Anderson wants. Its selfish, but i think he needs to give up his belt and just fight whoever he wants.
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
I have to agree...
a move to 170 means fighting GSP and that’s all there is at that weight. Too many Brazilians at LHW. SILVA VS BROCKLESNAR….CAPS FTW!
The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.
a Paulo Thiago uppercut put down Kos. What the hell is an Anderson straight going to do to him? Send him back in time
A single Marquardt punch knocked out Maia in 20 seconds, how long could he possibly last against Anderson?
Hang on.
I’m just razzing, I know where you’re coming from but applying logic to any Anderson fight goes out the window now.
Sad thing is he’s still insanely good, people will stupidly drop him down their pound-for-pound lists but he completely embarrassed Maia when he was interested in fighting. I just wish he cut out the Ali-style bullshit and won the fight. Stopping Maia in the first round would have been far more humiliating than letting him survive five rounds and win over a heap of fans in the process.
float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Anderson is more of a glider though and his sting involes angrily yelling at you in portuguse
Anderson Silva....
Muhammed Ali was not impressed by your performance….
The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.
by Koob on Apr 10, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
f that
Cheick Kongo. He’ll get two groin shots, eye poked, scratched, and clawed before Round 1 is over.
At least he told the truth.
Unlike Silva’s Interpreter. ;)
Question:
Is this the weirdest fucking UFC card ever?
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
UFC on versus was a little weird to.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah...
that’s the show i was going to point at. That was just a violent mess.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Brandon Wolff!
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
The weirdest UFC card I’ve seen.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
The Versus card beats this.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
and seriously...
if Dana puts Silva on the undercard in a non-title fight…that would be awesome.
The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.
by Koob on Apr 10, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
fuck Anderson Silva. counter-punching is a strategy for when you actually need to worry about avoiding a guy.
what the fuck goes through this guy’s head. you’re paid to beat that ass, so beat that ass.
Sonnen may be a right-wing douche, but at least he’s real.
Silva hiding behind a ‘language barrier’ insulting our intelligence and our hard earned money with this gay shit.
how do you not just fight and go for the kill?
He wasn't even counter punching...
because that requires, y’know… punching.
by BilboMcFonzie on Apr 10, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho likes this
by woooburn on Apr 10, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6D-_jAIvqs
I think Silva had visions of this repeating itself if he actually went for the kill against Maia. Fuckin’ puss.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
lol
I guess fighter bashing is going to be okay after tonight :p
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Rule 1. If his name is Tim Sylvia, you can bash him
Rule 2. Fuck you Anderson
Rule 3. Don’t bash anyone else unless they are permitted in 1 or 2
well anderson silva just effectively overshadowed the biggest upset in mma history by acting like a dbag
fighter bashing damn well better be ok
Jose Aldo will destroy Faber and move up for the 155lb belt. Watch.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
good luck with that
although our immortal champions just showed today they arent as good as everyone thinks bj got beat and silvas a douchebag so u never know
who gets the next title shot at LW? I think Kenny can use his range better than Bj did plus he’s more likely to stay fresh the whole fight.
Of course I can see them giving BJ a rematch since this should have been a draw. No way Frankie did enough to unseat the champ. BJ should remain above Frankie in the P4P (for whatever it’s worth). One bad decision shouldn’t [ut Edgar ahead of him.
it was a close decision not a bad one
it coulda gone either way and noone likes to see a draw so im happy with it
it was bad in the sense it should have been a draw. When you award the belt to a challenger who didn’t unseat the champ then IMO i’ts bad. I certainly wouldn’t use the term robbery but I think bad is appropriate. Look at how all thebloggers scored it.
I think its completely irrelvant that Edgar didn’t necessarily “unseat” the champion. It was a close fight, the judges scored it for Edgar, so Edgar is the champion. Just check out the look on Penn’s face after the fight….he knew he lost. Unless you argue that this was some kind of highway robbery (it wasn’t) then thats really the end of the story.
what the fuck happened to penn though?
he didnt look the the world beater we’d seen in his past 2 fights more like the talented fighter whos heart isnt totally in it that wed seen before
Very humid and warm, yes?
Did conditioning come into play?
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
He trains in Hawaii no?
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm grabbing at straws, I guess
I have no explanation for the BJ Penn we saw today
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Im convinced his knee is f’ed up and never said anything but Edgar won fair and square. Reminds me of a jackrabbit, fast and agile
He could have been injured, but being convinced of that already isn’t really smart… Let’s wait to hear what he has to say.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
ppl suddenly dont wear knee braces. Unless this was part of a Greasegate conspiracy and GSP secretly put him on you.
Curse you Canuck!!!
Heh.
Well, He could have been wearing it for similar reasons that George soitropolololoisisislo wear his almost pants or Aoki wears his Aokipants.
I just want to hear from him first, and honestly, i doubt you can keep a injury completely secret like that. When’s the last time that happened? When the last time there weren’t rumblings or rumours if there was indeed an injury to a fighter leading into such an important fight? I can’t think of one…
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol, of course that’s not true. Bo way he’d get cleared to fight with an injury like that.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP, for example, probably didn’t want Thiago Alves knowing about his (minor) elbow injury going into that fight, but everyone know anyway.
Hello. I take stuff too seriously.
by The Flying Gentleman on Apr 10, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Hawaii camps are bad for Penn's career.
Penn went back to Hawaii for this camp. He looked bad when he trained in Hawaii so he brought his camp to California for his last two in which he looked good. He goes back for this one and looks off. It should speak volumes of all the distractions.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
it kind of made sense
bj’s boxing is awesome, but he doesn’t throw kicks and he doesn’t shoot for takedowns. edgar did all three. edgar gave bj a helluva lot more to think about than bj gave edgar.
It’s relevant in the sense that there are questionable decisions and there are not questionable decisions. In this championship fight there was no clear winner. Just look at how the MMA pros scored it. The point being that BJ has a good basis to argue for a re match if he wants it.
Absolutely he has a good point for a rematch. I just didn’t personally find the decision that questionable and neither did other certain “mma pros” (whatever the hell that is). And it didn’t even look like Penn himself found the decision all that questionable, and he would probably qualify more as an “mma pro” then some dudes on a website.
Guys...
I’m going to say this to try and be clear. You can be pissed at Anderson and be EXTREMELY critical of him as a fighter, his heart (or lack thereof if that’s your thing), or his strategy.
But the same “fighter bashing” rules apply that do every other day.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
o cmon
at least just give us one day to get the anger out
dude...
Saying “fuck Anderson Silva, he fought like a pussy” is totally fine in my eyes.
But you can’t say he IS a pussy or attack him PERSONALLY. That’s where I’m at.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's a rec
‘cause I’m seeing a lot of people breaking the rules and they should read this
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Peopler are upset because Anderson milked a 2 round fight into a 5 round embarrassment.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pissed too...
I thought it was a completely awful performance and I lost respect for Anderson. But the rules is the rules is the rules.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you. MMA fans are very emotional but today they every right to be pissed but not fighter bash.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson's excuse was worse. (source: Ariel Helwani's twitter account.)
Silva: basically, im not too sure what school demian came from. i sent a message because he disrespected morally by the things that he said
AS: I don’t feel like I owe anyone an apology right now. Sometime’s fights turn out good, sometimes they turn out bad.
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson isn’t a fighter. He’s a dancer, actor and marathon runner. Fighters try to fight.and win.
(I know that’s prbly out of line, but it’s so true)
by Sokonojudo on Apr 10, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
unfortunately
that’s what he did. he fought. he won.
KINDA LONG BUT WORTH A READ
After thinking about it a bit, I feel it’s apparent what Anderson Silva is doing.
His last 3 title defenses at Middleweight have all resulted in lackluster performances and are the only fights in his UFC career in which he’s gone past the 2nd round.
It seems clear now that Silva isn’t really interested in fighting at Middleweight anymore. This is evidenced by the fact that his mouthpiece, Ed Soares, keeps repeating “He wants to be involved in the biggest fights possible at any weight class” This also explains his Silva’s recent talk about dropping down to 170 to fight GSP—he knows that it would be a HUGE PPV draw which directly translates to more royalty money for him. However, he doesn’t want to vacate his title since he then would lose out on the whole “most dominant champion in UFC history” hype that adds to his legacy.
The previous two fights at Middleweight and this most recent one were punctuated by his Light Heavyweight first-round smashing of Forrest Griffin at UFC 101. Does anybody else find it strange that his performances in his last 2 fights are so wildly different.
If he wants “the biggest fights available” he should vacate his title and move around. That would certainly be better for the fans than watching him dick around for 5 rounds and insult both his opponent and the audience.
Btw, it’s funny that for all the grief that GSP gets from the haters for not moving up a weightclass , he never screws around like this in his title fights. If he has the opportunity to finish a fight, he goes for it. And GSP has certainly never been threatened with a point deduction by the ref for"inactivity" in one of his fights…
by mthom on Apr 10, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
It wasn't worthy of a read for me
As it’s exactly what I’m thinking anyway.
I'm a lover not a fighter
there is a possibility
that the UFC does not want him to vacate his title… makes more sense to me since they’d lose their ‘champions clause’.
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Good point—that might explain his performances as a form of “protest”. Anybody think he would have fucked around like this if he were fighting Belfort?
I think he would have Griffin'd Belfort
Belfort is dangerous in the stand up, he wouldn’t have played around with him me thinks
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Vitor Belfort would’ve lit up that dancing fool like he did Wanderlei and shown who the real striking master in middleweight is.
completely disagree
but frankie edgar beat bj penn so it shows i have any idea what the hell im talking about
it's unreasonable
for anderson to only want to fight on cards with big ppv draws, while simultaneously doing nothing to make himself a bigger draw.
he can’t leach off popular opponents/other fighters on the card forever.
if you wanna make money anderson, make money, don’t leach it off of bj or gsp.
by K Krush on Apr 10, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the best comment of the thread.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
yeah
because GSP laying on a dude for 5 rounds is so much more exciting. /sarcasm……. I like both of these fighters but even with his activity i think you would be crazy to say GSP is has more exciting fights than Anderson
by blueballlefty on Apr 11, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I fucking hate this clown. He is a disgrace.
by TDITZ on Apr 10, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
whoa whoa whoa
you can say he fought like a disgrace, but you can’t see he is a disgrace.
cause that’s different evidently.
no. seriously.
Are you mocking Brent Brookhouse?
There IS such a thing as Mod-Bashing, too. lol.
Well I certainly missed a lot.
But I’ve come back just in time to see the expected Silva win (I feared it would be boring) and the waves of what probably constitutes as fighter bashing.
So having known Anderson could’ve finished Maia and Leites when he wanted…..can we stop giving Anderson Silva BJJ guys and give him some actual strikers?
Anderson/Belfort please.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
You saw the fight or not?
Because: So having known Anderson could’ve finished Maia and Leites when he wanted….
You might want to elaborate on this.
I'm a lover not a fighter
I didn't. Will watch the card again tonight for myself.
But what I’m reading is Anderson dominated and chose to showboat and not just bother to go in and finish him. I find that maddening and annoying because before the Cote fight he wrecked everyone in the UFC. Now he’s just giving off the impression that he doesn’t need to be at his best because he’s been so dominant.
Was Maia aggressive at all? Because if he wasn’t that’s probably part of the problem. Silva tends to get bored when no one is willing to attack against him.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
For example, Forrest Griffin is reckless in his attacks. But he was willing to stand and trade.
He got his ass kicked but the fight was pleasing on the eye because of how Griffin brought out the vintage Anderson Silva that hammered Leben, Franklin, Marquardt, etc.
Leites was timid and Anderson didn’t make things any better.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
It’s a catch-22. you want a guy who will engage Silva, but that is everyone’s worst strategy in any fight against him.
The only match-ups that seem appealing to me are Vitor Belfort, and hell, if he beats Sexyama I say make a match with Wanderlei Silva.
Otherwise, when Shogun wins his title, send AS to LHW
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The middleweight division is not that stacked.
He probably needs to move up to LHW and start a new challenge for the remainder of his contract.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
Maia was the only one fighting with a champions heart in the fight let’s put it that way. He willingly attacked many times. Silva was back-peddling most of the 5th and 4th round and got hit cleanly a few times too.
Also, he was trying to be humble when thee fight ended after fighting a disrespectful fight that looked like some kind of audition for a movie role of a drunken Bruce Lee on PCP.
And then… has the nerve in the post=fight conference to say Damian Maia was disrespectful to him. I don’t care how damn good he is and how masterful his striking can be, he lost a fan here, and I will sit back waiting for the day when his reign of disrespectful, egoistical terror comes to a crashing halt.
That felt good to type lol
so what are we giving anderson?
fighters who have earned the title shot?
fighters custom picked to be good style matchups?
maia earned it, same as leites, as fun as a silva/belfort fight sounds, befort has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to deserve it. guys like sonnen and okami would have every right to be PISSED.
Funny situation
Maia beat Sonnen, Sonnen beat Marquardt, and Marquardt beat Maia. My head hurts.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
This Article is named incorrectly.
It should be “Anderson Silva Humiliates Himself, Angers Everyone on Earth”
by moonlapse88 on Apr 10, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
fixed
It should be "Anderson Silva Humiliates Himself, Angers Everyone on Earth except some retarded thread troll named “Robert Downey Sr.”
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Apr 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Silva doesn't care. Did you see his response?
AS: I don’t feel like I owe anyone an apology right now. Sometime’s fights turn out good, sometimes they turn out bad.
Silva: basically, im not too sure what school demian came from. i sent a message because he disrespected morally by the things that he said
by snakecharmer1340 on Apr 10, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions
I’m just glad “Samil” so openly showed his true colors in todays fight. It seems a lot of people were giving him credit for being a humble, respectful champion. I never thought you had to be a private eye to see through his bullshit. It may be the worst Silva has shown, but its not the first time he’s gone through actions during a match that thoroughly disrespect the sport. The guy is unbelievably full of himself, he’s like a Tiger Woods without the obnoxious caddy. I’ve always admired his skills as a fighter and continue to do so but as a person I have no respect for him. I hope White and co. make him accountable for this crap.
I haven’t watched a Anderson Silva fight since the Leites fight and I wont. I wont drop $50 on his crap fights. UFC needs to bring back the pride yellow/red cards.
I said the same thing after the last GSP fight
We’re going to run out of champions to watch
by kibbled_bits on Apr 11, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
He was overcompensating cuz he realized he was acting like a douche
I don’t know if someone said something to him or not. He was basically putting an exhibition on for the 1st two rounds. And regardless of what anyone says: Maia refused to engage those rounds. He really only engaged at all the last two rounds.
No doubt it was weird, erratic and bizarre. But I was entertained, but this is sort of what I expected.
by kibbled_bits on Apr 11, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
He simply refused to engage him on the ground
The taunting aside, it’s not too different from GSPs performance. GSP refuses to engage his opponents on the feet anymore. I think that fight would be an interesting matchup because GSP would not like to be clowned the way AS has a habit of doing.
That or give him Sonnen so he gets a verbal beating, and give him to Sonnen in 2 months.
except for the 2 rounds where he also refused to engage him on the feet. listen, i still really am not a fan of GSP, but you can’t compare this to GSP. GSP never ran away, never stopped fighting, never mocked his opponent. GSP picks a position and engages in that position at least attempting to fight like he’s supposed to, even if it’s a little boring, but it’s not classless. Anderson didn’t even try to continue fighting even when Maia was running right into his wheelhouse. It’s like he purposely is doing the opposite of what he’s expected to do.
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