Fedor haz made himself irrellevant…….

CBS is in charge of the promotion.

I’ve got a question, was Strikeforce mentioned at all during the broadcast? If it was, it was in passing. It was consistently referred to as Saturday night fights on CBS with little mention of anyone else.

It wouldn’t matter if they said M1 Global every three seconds. In the end, casuals will still see it as “Ultimate fighting.” The only real winner is the UFC.

As much as the partners made a lot of effort to acknowledge the co-branding, the media basically picked up on the fact that it was Strikeforce and kind of forgot about everything else,

They aren’t griping that Strikeforce didn’t do their part they are griping that the media reporting on the event didn’t give a crap about M-1 global. Apparently they want Strikeforce to correct the media talking about the events now.

This M1& Strikeforce marriage is all going to end badly.

M1 is always accused of “wanting too much”. But Strikeforce also wants too much from this relationship. I believe Strikforce thinks that in signing Fedor, they had somehow found the ‘holy grail’ that will help them compete with the UFC.

So Strikeforce can’t resist being strong-armed into re-negotiations. However, there must be a limit to how much ‘strong-arming’ one can take? Strikeforce needs to start questioning the risk/reward relationship they have with M1. It seems that SF is giving away a whole lot, and are they getting what they want in return? Are they target from this relationship simply unreachable?

I hope they don’t follow the Affiliction route and fold from the live event business. But I think they seriously need to just focus on growing organically instead of trying to leverage too much from one fighter to raise their profile. They could put the money they spend on the Fedor/M1 contract into signing several decent fighters and see a better return than at present.

From a business point of view, it just looks like SF have put themselves in a poor position. You have a fighter/management team in M1 that has you by your balls. There are some deals you really have to just walk away from.

The UFC takes a lot of heat, but you will not strong-arm them into any deal, no matter who you are. Strikeforce and M1 and suffering because both parties expect too much from there relationship. SF will only start to see success when they stop trying to chase the UFC. The UFC is way to big at present for them to compete with.

They should produce a sitcom based on the relationship between Scott Coker and Vadim.

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Both of them need to check themselves. M1 will not get the equal co-promoting exposure it wants, and SF will not boost its popularity that much more being associated with Fedor.

All I see is a bunch of unrealistic goals from SF and M1.

SF doesn’t mouth off its goals like M1, but we all know why they agreed to the Co-promote with M1.

M1 wants to leverage its fighter to promote itself at the expense of SF own exposure. SF might as well just let M1 take credit for the all the events. If SF knows what’s good for them, they should stop this Co-promoting BS right now or they’ll have every fighter thinking they can negotiate a SF contract demanding Co-promotion rights. Now that is just silly if you ask me.

I understand Fedor is a big signing, but at what expense? I’m assuming he’s compensated well financially, but now his management company want to take away your ‘shine’ for putting the whole shindig together. SF must like to be bullied.

M1 may be bad, but it’s so overblown because of the “scary foreign crooks” mentality. And people lose their shit over their conflict of interest but the AKA management/trainers monopoly gets away with their BS and fans only care about the WW division being clogged up. It’s a shocking level of xenophobia that runs rampant through a community of otherwise intelligent people.

How much did you notice Strikeforce’s brand being pushed at that show, as compared to CBS? Hardly at all, yes? I mean, I would have that Strikeforce was a show on CBS if I didn’t know better.

That said, do you think M-1 did more than Strikeforce in terms of putting that show together? Would you expect them to get more airtime than Strikeforce did?

Well put. CBS + Strikeforce + M-1 = too many cooks in the kitchen. My roommates and I watched the event and they all kept saying “Wait, so is this UFC? CBS does fights now too?” If that confused them, you can only imagine how many “WTF?” I’d get from “Well, it’s a CBS BROADCAST and a Strikeforce event, but they co-promote with this third foreign company called M-1” etc etc

Without opening up the “Why hasn’t the UFC made a broadcast deal yet?” can o’ worms, the fact is broadcast networks look for control and that is playing a part in why the UFC hasn’t signed on a dotted line since it loves authority over it’s content.

what matters is what M-1’s contract says they get on shows featuring Fedor. It’s not really a hard concept to grasp.

None (since Mousasi left M-1). Yes, it seems like complete bullshit but the terms of signing Fedor were to present the shows on which he appeared as co promoted by M-1.

whether the responsibilities are split 50/50, is kind of irrelevant. strikeforce was dumb enough to accept this kind of arrangement, so they should expect these kinds of developments to happen. and if they committed to certain things (like mentioning m1 x number of times), then they’re obligated to do so.

plus, i’m not totally clued into the whole arrangement, but like i asked up above, doesn’t M1 coordinator the overseas promotion of the events they co-promote?

They should open the next show by saying “M-1” 200 times consecutively.

Fedor is M1. he gets beat and the lucrative contracts and making orgs jump threw hoops is over. As long as they can keep convincing people he is the #1 Fighter in MMA there set. Hard to convince somebody he is number 1 if he gets beat. Im not saying Overeem would beat him but M1 is going to take that chance. Same reason he didn’t sign with the UFC.