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Miguel Torres's cut. Ouch.

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That’s gonna leave a scar.

by thesource on Mar 7, 2010 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

Just saw this and was gonna post a fanshot. You beat me to it. Pretty sure that’s his skull. Gnarley doesn’t even begin to describe it.

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by Neil Manich on Mar 7, 2010 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah

I think that’s a skull

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by donkeypunch on Mar 7, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely a top contender for “Vag of the Year”. I think Diego won last year.

by ufc4 on Mar 7, 2010 6:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Knees on the ground or insane cuts like these… I’d rather have knees.

by grein on Mar 7, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

I agree...

I’m not a fan of these types of injuries.

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by ANance on Mar 7, 2010 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I would rather have one of these than a concussion from a KO.

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Mar 7, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Well sign me up then!

Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo

by ANance on Mar 7, 2010 7:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

For sure...

I doubt you would see as many KOs by knee to grounded opponent as we do nasty cuts that stop fights. I would be ok with niether. I train, so I know how much work goes into getting ready for a fight. Sucks to have it go to waste over a cut. The fight didn’t end directly because of the cut, but I doubt he woulda got subbed if he didn’t have a gallon of blood oozing from his head. O well, rules are rules.

Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo

by ANance on Mar 7, 2010 10:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We already have seen lots of fights ended with illegal knees to grounded opponents. Imagine how many KO’s from those knees we would see if they were legal. People have crunched those number’s numerous times and this idea that elbow caused cuts are ending lots of fights just isn’t the case, it just isn’t the issue people seem to think it is.

by who me on Mar 7, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm okay with devastating strikes. Part of the charm of MMA.

I’d rather take a headstomp or three than be in boxing and be looking at as many more rounds of getting punched in the head as I can remain standing for.

I’d also much rather get a skull revealing vag than either of those any day.

by BillyJane on Mar 8, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Cuts like that still heal pretty easily, your brain doesn’t. I rather have the cut than a concussion(I have had similar cuts).

by who me on Mar 7, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

But they make people lose, even if they were winning up until that point.

by grein on Mar 7, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

How often does that happen? Brain injury is infinitely more important of an issue than the very rare stopped fight due to a cut that gets blood into a guy’s eyes. Your comparing something that may cause cumlative brain injury to something that may cause a handful of stitches and almost never has the effect of ending the fight in reality.

People have already crunched the numbers numerous times to see just what effect the cuts from elbow’s have and it’s just not that much of an impact at all. Here is a recent fan post on the subject, with the number’s (thanks to Riley 96):
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/2/23/1323703/cut-stoppages-elbows-to-blame-or

From the first Zuffa era event in which a cut stoppage happened (which is UFC 36) the UFC has put on 701 fights with 12 of said fights ending in doctors stoppage due to cuts. The figure is 1.7% of fights have ended in cuts.

I broke down the cut stoppages into 3 different categories which were: Legal strikes (kicks, knees, punches etc), Elbows, and Illegal strikes/ freak accidents.

Legal strikes led to 41.6% of the cut stoppages followed by Illegal strikes and freak accidents with 33.3% of the tally. Head bunts were the common illegal strike that resulted in a cut and the freak accident i pointed out is the Couture VS Belfort 2 fight (which can arguably go into legal strikes). Rounding out the bund is Elbow strikes with 25% of the vote. Out of the Elbow strikes each cut causing elbow was done by the fighter in a dominating position.

Elbows have led to 4 TKO stoppages in which in the numbers is 0.5% of fights while elbow caused cuts have led to 0.4% or 3 stoppages in 701 fights.

by who me on Mar 7, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t understand why it needs to be one or the other.

Pride is dead, people need to get over it.

by Phildo on Mar 7, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Does that mean the rules are useless?

by grein on Mar 8, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

no, that means that knees have nothing to do with elbows. It’s not an either or proposition, they don’t need to be compared.

by Phildo on Mar 8, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope he uses Diego’s doc..

by Koob on Mar 7, 2010 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

This...

He was looking good just a few days after his axe wound.

Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo

by ANance on Mar 7, 2010 10:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Now he knows how Frankenstein felt.

by dancingChicken on Mar 8, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Aye-aye-aye, no me gusta!

Aye-aye-aye, no es bueno!

I'm gonna make a bold prediction here and say Cain "pillowhands" (as some of you have called him) lol Velasquez catches Nog right on the chin and finishes via strikes on the ground. Nog looked good against an old Randy. It didn't show me much. We’ll see.

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 18, 2010 11:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

by xFenixKnightx on Mar 8, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Holy Damn

thats some nastiness

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by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 8, 2010 2:18 AM EST reply actions  

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