UFC Is Going Head-to-Head With April 17th Strikeforce Show on CBS
by Nick Thomas on Mar 4, 2010 9:22 PM EST
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According to Figure Four Online:
Dana White confirmed today that UFC is running a show on April 17th, head-to-head with the announced Strikeforce show on CBS. The event would air most likely on Spike TV. The Wanderlei Silva vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama match is not the main event. The only thing confirmed is they are trying to finalize a Matt Serra vs. Mike Swick [co-main] semifinal fight today.
There had been talk of a possibility that if UFC scheduled a show on that date, CBS may move the Strikeforce show to April 24th, which would go head-to-head with the WEC PPV in Sacramento.
Even though the April 17th show was not announced yesterday, the issue of the Observer that came out yesterday has a lead story analyzing the whys of this head-to-head battle.
HT: f4wonline.com, SidHartman
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WTF is a “Matt Serra vs. Mike Swick semifinal”?
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WW grand prix obviously.
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by Ubernoober on Mar 4, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
When you’re not around, I feel a certain lack of common sense..
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You’re a promoter. I knew it.
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Mitrione vs Kimbo for sure
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Maybe kimbo vs toney
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by ANance on Mar 4, 2010 9:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You really want to see a fight where Kimbo Slice has better wrestling?
If the point of this is to bring Toney in to get slaughtered, putting James Toney against Slice is a real bad idea.
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Looks like I was right...
According to Iole. I never said I wanted to see the fight. Just simply saying that is what they will do.
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by ANance on Mar 5, 2010 1:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In that case, Game Over for Strikeforce’s card, ratings wise.
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Wouldn’t they then be competing with the Super 6 tournament which is being broadcast by one of their partners in Showtime?
They would be, but at that point it wouldn’t matter because the hit the Super Six takes is offset by the gains Strikeforce makes moving to the 24th. Also, now UFC is counter programming HBO boxing so there is some gains there.
After an announcement is made if CBS moves ithe date then the damage has already been done :) Zuffa can’t ask for anything better.
I dont think CBS is that stupid even if Shitfarce is bunch of pussies. The CBS card has a better chance of being canceled than moved to the 24th.
This Strikeforce card was originally scheduled on the 10th but then they took their penis tucked it between their legs and begged CBS to move it to the 17th.
Now a week after they announce their “big event” they’re gonna take that same penis, tuck it and go back to CBS again? not to mention they share the same production crew as showtime boxing which will make it a logistical nightmare.
I told you what was coming. No Can Defend.
I’’ll give you credit you did tell me it was coming.
Someone gave me an interesting breakdown of the situation and I’m curious to hear your opinion (OK lets be honest, spin).
Strikeforce is going ahead with the 17th no matter what and the UFC knows it. The UFC is lining up an impressive card to put a big hit on them (Kimbo, Toney, Wndy, Sexy and a Chuck or Tito or Forest). With that UFC lineup they even beat Strikeforce’s overall numbers. But at what cost?
The payroll for those fighters is going to run $1 million or more than what Strikeforce has got lined up, thanks to Fedor not being on the card. So Strikeforce is going to make $60,000 a 30-sec buy on CBS, compared to $40,000 for the UFC. So license fee wise Strikeforce might make a cool million more and probably take in more on ticket sales, since if the UFC puts the card on in Vegas they need time for out of towners to plan on making the trip.
Strikeforce is going to take a hit but is it going to be a big enough one to put them out of business? And is it worth the effort the UFC is putting into it?
I would think the UFC’s main goal would be to get Strikeforce off CBS, not necessarily run them out of business at this point.
also, if they can do damage to cbs’ numbers by putting a show on spike, that makes them look better to cbs/the other networks.
The UFC’s success is what keeps them off networks. There is just no way for anyone to pay close to what they make on ppv.
It also has to with production control, the UFC, rightfully, doesn’t want someone to come in and butcher the production the way Showtime and CBS do.
lol ufc’s production is way horriblerer than strikeforce’s fer shure
by Postpubescent on Mar 4, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
You sure about that? Kind of like how your English is “horriblerer” than Anderson Silva’s?
by Worldisart on Mar 4, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That was his point, that they already cut costs enough that they’d wouldn’t take a huge hit on less than stellar ratings.
In other words enough to live to fight another day. But who knows will TV bean counters.
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PLEASE do not have this event at the Palms.
That is all I ask.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
It's just the atmosphere is so dead
That’s why I hate when the WEC schedules title fights there.
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Why the hell has Swick gotten so much action?
I’d think they would put him on ice for a little after getting choked by Paulo.
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Ultimate Fighter Season 1 cred.
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Give him someone he can pick apart with his long googly arms.
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Swick vs Serra?
LOL.
I already got my ticket for the show in Nashville. I just hope Strikeforce doesn’t change the date.
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hrrrrrrr
since the ufc is trying to counter program strikeforce i hope stikeforce moves to the 24th to counter program the wec. Can u Imagine how sucky the numbers will be for the wec. I love the guys in the ufc, but we need our free mma. And i am not going to pay for wec when strikeforce is having 3 title fights.
Everyone wins
UFC gets their ratings, Strikeforce gets theirs, WEC fails in PPV and either merges with the UFC or reverts to their free shows until they merge.
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by SSreporters on Mar 4, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you know whats funny? Everyone bitches about how under paid the guys in the WEC are yet when the go to PPV as a method to generate more revenue and pay their fighters more everyone shits on it. The WEC PPV is a good solid card. Hardcores here confuse me so much. They act like the voices of the under paid but don’t want to support them when they try to find a means to cover the pay increases.
by Joselana on Mar 4, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's not about the fighters though.
The UFC has 4 stacked divisions of top talent and one more top-heavy division. WEC has two good but top-heavy divisions and one division of who gives a shit. The products are not equal, and we don’t want to pay equal prices. Charge half as much and we’ll talk.
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I would say 5 stacked divisions
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However...
I do agree with your statement
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Ben Franklin
I was 4 because
the heavyweight division sucks. That’s not a UFC problem, it’s a heavyweight problem. Outside of the top 12 HWs in the world, there’s nobody really worth getting excited about.
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thats crap as well because just months ago everyone said they should merge with the UFC and intergrate those weight classes. Those of which would be on PPV and any of those title fights would be a main event. People would buy this same card with less bitching if it had just a UFC label on it. Just becuz both companies are under ZUFFA doesn’t mean the UFC has to carry them. The WEC has to survive on its own merit and not depend on the UFC pumping them up all the time. And since when has any WEC cards been shitty to watch? With this PPV you’ll get your money’s worth.
I think you just agreed with me.
thats crap as well because just months ago everyone said they should merge with the UFC and intergrate those weight classes.
Yes. Integrate the two good weight classes, watch the LWs wash out, and let the new weights stand equally with the others. Within 2 years, somebody like Miguel Torres with charisma and talent will be as big a draw as BJ Penn and able to carry a UFC PPV with support drawn from seven (count ’em, seven!) world class divisions. Holy shit!
That has nothing to do with a WEC PPV featuring a new champ who hasn’t defended, LW fights that wouldn’t even make the Spike prelims, and a former champ against an unproven TUF loser.
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I’m all for this. Add a cruiserweight division in a few years, and bam, an eight division organization, with each champion owning one side of the Octagon.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 5, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
This makes absolutely no sense…
The UFC has 5 divisions and puts on 13 ppv’s a year…. The WEC has 2 top divsions and is putting on ONE ppv….
Use a calculator this time and you’ll conclude that the WEC is the better value based on you’re own criteria.
by mmalogic on Mar 4, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OR, I'll realize that they are putting on tons of events and not everyone is on that one card
and that the FW and BW divisions are way top heavy, much like HW. I love the lil guys, but it’s not worth paying for by itself. Put Koscheck vs. Daley and Cote vs. Belcher on a card with Miguel vs. [worthwhile competitor] and Urijah vs. Aldo and I’ll pay for it. Add in Henderson vs. Tyson Griffin to fight Gray Maynard for #1 contendership, and I’ll rave that it’s a sick card.
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You've teased me with this before.
I don’t know if I can trust my heart to you again when you hurt me so bad last time.
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I just got out of a tough relationship...
I thought it was going somewhere… there were so many promises and I believed them because I wanted them to be true. I just can’t get in to something serious right now.
If you’re understand that, I know a cheap motel down the street.
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by pdl on Mar 4, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Because it will hopefully force a merger and get them to be BETTER PAID by being PPV regulars.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
I agree with the belt thing
But they will be 5 rounders.
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Reminds me of the old days when the WWF and WCW would run big shows opposite of each other.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
I HATED THAT
Nitro always ran an hour into Raw too. It sucked then because of no DVR, but now I don’t mind as much.
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WWE and WCW also used to run PPV against each other. The WWE would run a PPV and the WCW would run their Clash of Champions on TBS.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
The old COTC events actually cut into the amount of buys the WWF did. McMahon ran one event to counted WCW on PPV, and that cut into the amount of buys that WCW drew.
COTC was always good for a Sting/Ric Flair match or something
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The only reason I remember those events is because Dusty Rhodes went on TV and threatened the parents of anybody who didn’t let their kids watch the event saying that he would come down their chimney and beat up their kid.
by RobertGBP on Mar 4, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Let’s just hope niether side signs Master P to help boost ratings like WCW did. Hoody Hoo!!!!!
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by ANance on Mar 4, 2010 9:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
bad move by the ufc,
they r just shooting themselves in the foot if strikeforce moves there card to the same night as the wec.
Yeah, you wish son.
Like Zuffa hasn’t thought about that possibility.
And tix are already on sale for SF. A lot of people who planned for it could be F’ed if its moved to the 24th.
I don’t think that’s the case at all.
People that watch on CBS probably won’t eat into the market of people buying a WEC PPV.
Also, there are probably lots of media types with plans booked to see Faber/Aldo, they aren’t going to change to see SF, and if any media/fans have already booked plans to see SF the week before, they will be alienated.
This is just silly.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 4, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Tivo to the rescue
Those people would watch the WEC and record the CBS show. That way they skip comercials and the potential 5 rounds of Shields blue balling Hendo.
by Roll for Life on Mar 5, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
This annoys me. The April SF card is going to be good and I think a last minute attempt to throw together a card for Spike is a bad idea.
Melendez-Aoki, Mousasi-Anyone > Swick-Serra
by NateDouble on Mar 4, 2010 9:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
They need only one big name to destroy Strikeforce's ratings
This isn’t the main event so relax.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Serra is a decent name on his own
Not to carry a card, but there is name value there.
Couture vs. Franklin would fit marvelously well here.
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Absolutely.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
I gotta say, Couture/Franklin appeals to me a lot more than Henderson/Shields. I like Dan and Jake, I just think their fight has the potential to be a real 5 round snoozer.
I think Couture/Franklin could be as entertaining as Couture/Noguiera. Two tenured fighters, finely honed skills, and fan favorites.
Actually I feel like Couture/Franklin could be the tits
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definitely
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 4, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
If Spike airs this card live Coast-to-Coast like Silva/Irvin
I’m watching Spike….for obvious reasons.
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OMG!
Matt Serra fighting twice in a year, preposterous!
by grein on Mar 4, 2010 9:22 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
I like chicken.
Now someone else say something random.
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THERE WAS A FIRE FIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!
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by Matthew Roth on Mar 4, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
most overrated movie ever
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 4, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Fact! Try going to school in Boston. Your roommates watch this all the time.
I mean what do you have? A Beautiful Mind?
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They’ve got “the Departed” now. If they’re poseurs they can always go with “Good Will Hunting”. And if they’re cool they can go with “The Friends of Eddie Coyle”.
Departed is good, but it ain’t even Scorsese’s best of the decade
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
While I appreciate that the man is my idol and the Departed was still a great flick. Was it Goodfellas? Hells no but nothing is.
Oh and here’s another Boston flick, kind of, Shutter Island, the island is in Boston Harbor.
I love the Scorsese. Gangs of New York got me into “serious films”
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Gangs of New York was a big disappointment for me. I had waiting years for him to make it and then when he did I think the Weinsteins fucked it up for him.
I don’t know, Daniel Day Lewis was worth the price of admission by himself. The only part that irritated me was Cameron Diaz but that’s mostly because I think she’s a hack of an actress and has no business being in a movie like that.
by Worldisart on Mar 4, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
She's horrible
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 4, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
D. D. Lewis...
drinks everybody’s mlikshake…
by Koob on Mar 4, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Truth! Cameron Diaz must stick to romantic comedy. Daniel Day-Lewis I would pay to watch no matter what. I still liked Gangs of New York, a lot, I just had great expectations of it to begin with.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 5, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni
big Willem Dafoe fan
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
nutbuster is such an accurate phrase for that movie...
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
BECAUSE
HE
IS
WILLEM
FUCKIN
DAFOE
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by Ubernoober on Mar 4, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I logged in to rec this.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Overrated movie or not
we can all agree Willem Dafoe was a motherF-ckin G in that movie.
by fozo2 on Mar 4, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
yeah, i’ll rec this.
he’s a G in everythang
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 4, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Vera will get chewed up worse than the scenery in a Tommy Lee Jones movie.
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Oh come on
Tommy Lee Jones never chews on the scene. Pacino is much more apt reference
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If Strikeforce's show is only 2 hours I can only imagine a 4 fight card on Spike.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Which is why I think this main card (which is what I meant to say) makes sense
Couture/Franklin
Serra/Swick
Yvel/Barry
Kimbo/Mitrione?
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
sign me the fuck up
That’s a numbered card right there
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I kinda just threw stuff up there
If Condit didn’t have a fight by now I would’ve done Condit/Hazelett ahead of Kimbo/Mitrione.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
You start your 3 hour show an hour before the strikeforce one begins
gets people watching who won’t change the channel when CBS starts theirs.
Good thinking
Lauzon vs. Sherk for the 5th fight.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
They same day?
AHHHHHHH HORSESHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm gonna make a bold prediction here and say Cain "pillowhands" (as some of you have called him) lol Velasquez catches Nog right on the chin and finishes via strikes on the ground. Nog looked good against an old Randy. It didn't show me much. We’ll see.
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 18, 2010 11:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
by xFenixKnightx on Mar 4, 2010 9:32 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Competition is good! Right?
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by AJB on Mar 5, 2010 5:27 AM EST up reply actions
I love the smell of low network ratings in the morning….
by Worldisart on Mar 4, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Fedor don’t channel surf!
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by Ubernoober on Mar 4, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
In Soviet Russia, channel surf you
?
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 4, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Swick vs. Serra is just plain weird, and I have no idea why. It just doesn’t ring right to me. Maybe it’s the difference in physique and reach, but this fight could be awkward.
Paraphrasing what someone in the know just told me: UFC going against Strikeforce is the best PR CBS can have. Sounds right.
Did wonders for Affliction/EliteXc.
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by Ubernoober on Mar 4, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Affliction was a PPV, and I believe it did help them out due to the hype. It hurt EliteXC but then what didn’t hurt them haha
yea but
the point is they’re both dead now. even if the ufc counter-programming you seems to lend you credibility and publicity, if dana sets his targets on you, history tells us you’ll be gone sooner or later
by kanginator10 on Mar 4, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Anti-Zuffa tweet from Gross? STUNNER!!!!!
by SidHartman on Mar 4, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“Congratulations to Mick Foley for winning the WWF title tonight.”
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 4, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’m actually happy to have recently learned what you are referring to.
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90s wrestling FTW!
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Somehow I never understand this kind of thinking. I mean if going head to head is good PR for CBS and Strikeforce then it turn wouldn’t it have to also be good PR for SPIKE and the UFC? That can’t just be one way street only helping one way.
I see the head to head getting both sides extra PR but then the better advertising and better brand power will win that PR battle. The brand power is obvious who wins and there is no way I see CBS doing a better job selling their MMA product over the UFC selling their MMA product.
Just BE.
I’m Strikeforce and CBS will be very happy that a whole lot more people know how little people watched their show.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Just a thought,if dana white says strikeforce doesnt wory him then why is he always countering them?
Because his mindset is to destroy all competition.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
so then he obviosuly sweats them a little bit right?
If he didnt care he woulldnt counter anything . I know stirkferece isnt a big threat but i am just saying he says he doesnt sweat them but obviously he does somewhat.
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by Dropkick434 on Mar 4, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 16 recs
i logged in just to pay my respects to this analogy.
formerly JB, trying to figure out this whole new SB deal. oh, and another thing; i'm not impressed by your performance.
What is this "stirkferece" you speak of?
by ufc4 on Mar 4, 2010 11:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you know whats funny?
Toney got the UFC to sign him because he told them Strikeforce was interested haha
actually, since 2006, when the ufc was going to put him up against Randy, but then said that they would never sign a boxer because they love the sport so much, so you tell me. Strikeforce being interested in Toney definitely moved along the process…
Strikeforce wasnt even in the negotiations… if toney didnt sign with ZUffa he was going to sign with that show in Massachussets – i believe butterbean runs it along with another character.
The guys trying to put together the “Strong Man guy” vs Tim Sylvia were gonna pit him vs Houstand Alexander.
Toney came to Dana and said just match the real value of this offer and he did. It’s peanuts compared to the strategic benefits of this signing.
But it does look like Dana made Strikeforce bend over to M1 after Coker tried everything in his power not to… ultimately ruining this CBS show… I think that will have lot more impact. haha
so, i guess non-exclusive contracts are okay for Zuffa now, huh?
by Jmend255 on Mar 4, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
see, this is why I like that you're more active now.
it provides balance.. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 4, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Counter programming “regional” promotions is absolutely NOT a sign of worrying, no matter what anyone tells you.
Of course he does, its there job to worry about competitors. You believe everything promoters tell yah?
he also said this about a boxer in the ufc
"I could do it, make it huge, make money, but I could have done a fight like this when we were bleeding money [in the early 2000s]," White said. "The fight would make some money, but it hurts MMA in the long term. We don’t do that because we love the sport. That’s a Pride or K-1 matchup. It’s not what we do."
Did you believe that?
Just a thought,if dana white says strikeforce doesnt wory him then why is he always countering them?
Because he wont stop until he gets 15 Ferraris motherfucker! lol
Of course he’s threatened.
Just like Apple feels threatened by HTC and Google so they slapped a bunk lawsuit on them earlier this week. They feel threatened like Dana does. Its all good though Googles open Android OS is gonna stomp them by this time next year. =) /nerd talk
Back on topic…
I really cant understand why Dana does it though. Countering. SF messes themselves up without him doing anything. Doesnt he know UFC is Coke and SF isnt even close to Pepsi level? Let them get Cola generic acceptance at least, Dana, FUCK!!! >:(
I'm gonna make a bold prediction here and say Cain "pillowhands" (as some of you have called him) lol Velasquez catches Nog right on the chin and finishes via strikes on the ground. Nog looked good against an old Randy. It didn't show me much. We’ll see.
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 18, 2010 11:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
by xFenixKnightx on Mar 4, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think he fears loss of market share
even though the value of that share would expand as SF expands the overall market. Or, he gets a power-boner from being able to destroy other businesses. The latter is far more likely.
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Zuffa worry is that Strikeforce will compete over major talent, driving up fighters’ purses and cut into their immense profits. They wish to stay a monopsony.
by John Nash on Mar 5, 2010 12:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If I hadn’t drank two bottles of wine that would have made more sense.
by John Nash on Mar 5, 2010 12:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you hadn’t drank two bottles of wine, your night wouldn’t have been as good
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Mar 5, 2010 4:40 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I’m even surprised he’s bothered to explain that he wanted to shutdown Toney/Walker in SF. I originally interpreted the Toney signing to mean, “Fuck it! We’re so huge right now, we’ll do whatever we damn well please. Why not a couple of ‘celebrity’ fights, senior circuit fights, or whatever? I am King of the World!!!”
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 5, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Strikeforce is just a "small regional promotion"
Let’s counter them every chance we get.
If they really had balls they would’ve countered the Yamma, but even they knew they were outmatched.
I realize it’s not the main event or anything, but Serra/Swick just isn’t the sort of thing you release to the press to scare the competition. Maybe Kimbo, Toney, Couture, some sort of ratings draw. Swick/Serra? Are they trying to scare CBS into thinking there’ll be low guido demos?
Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.
by lowellthehammer on Mar 4, 2010 10:28 PM EST reply actions
You set up the jab (Swick/Serra) and then knock them out with the main event (Couture/Franklin).
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
What lingers in my mind, after reading about how they want Chuck on the card
Liddel/Franklin
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
definitely
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Mar 4, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
I want that fight reaaaaallllly bad
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Mar 4, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
If anyone watches Swick/Serra
and a Kimbo fight instead of this Strikeforce show, I hate you and hate everything about you.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Mar 4, 2010 11:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If it's live on the West Coast, I'm watching this AND Strikeforce.
Win-win!
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Oh and it's one freaking fight that isn't even official.
Please calm yourself.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Well I’m gonna need something to do to wake me up after the Hendo/Shields fight.
by ufc4 on Mar 4, 2010 11:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hear Scott Coker is having lunch with Jose Canseco tomorrow.
by mmalogic on Mar 4, 2010 11:10 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Does Coker at least know it this time?
by ufc4 on Mar 4, 2010 11:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
speaking of Canseco.. look at his tweets:
Who is interested in spending the day with me and seeing what my life is about
1000 per day we can do anything if interested in spend a daY with jose email me at jc7264@yahoo.com
All the money is going to a charity
I need some investors I have to projects that need funding one is a reality based show called the altimate celebrity fighter and the other
The movie on my life if interested email me at jc7264@yahoo.com
Unless u have financing for the projects don’t email me thank ju
IRS!
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 4, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
WOW
That is some desperate shit.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Giving Jose $1000 is charity, you’re helping a homeless person.
Keep firing Assholes!
Blackout is always right
by Ubernoober on Mar 4, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
+1
but you have -85 for all the Vera jokes.. so….
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 4, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Vera will be 36.925% uglier after Jones is through with him.
Keep firing Assholes!
Blackout is always right
by Ubernoober on Mar 4, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
that toney got signed?
really?
I don’t like Toney, but him fighting MMA > Canseco desperately trying to pay his debts.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 4, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
What a truly absurd comment.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
by Blackout612 on Mar 4, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Full card just confirmed
Epic Beard Man vs. Dada 5000
James Toney vs. Don Frye
Hong Man Choi vs. Kyle Maynard
Ken Shamrock vs. Frank Shamrock
Kurt Angle vs. Chad Ocho Cinco
by ufc4 on Mar 4, 2010 11:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
I'm there.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Dana is fucking with Strikeforce in 2010.
The UFC is going to go after them until they go back to being a local show or they die. Dana is fucking ruthless.
by snakecharmer1340 on Mar 4, 2010 11:31 PM EST reply actions
It's business. You think UFC would just willingly let Strikeforce have this?
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
He would willingly let McDowell's succeed.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
by SSreporters on Mar 4, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Rocky Marciano would whoop tony's ass
by timthemit53 on Mar 5, 2010 12:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes! In the face!
I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!
by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 5, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Nah. I would do the same.
Dana is just protecting his market share.
by snakecharmer1340 on Mar 4, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
From Timmy B on The UG
“As I announced two days ago, the UFC is going head to head with Strikeforce on April 17th. A few updates on the card…
1. Kimbo Slice will be fighting on it.
2. Liddell or Griffin are still a maybe. Depends on if Strikeforce decides to go with Walker or Canseco for the card. SF is in full on negotiations with both fighters. Neither come cheap.
3. White & Co are expecting to take away between 33% to 50% of the key male demographic (18-34), which will either cancel SF from CBS or force them to pay money they don’t have to get Fedor, their ratings draw.
4. James Toney is not fighting on the card no matter what the speculation is.
5. Coker is semi-bluffing about moving the date. As discussed by a few others, they share the same crew as the Showtime Boxing team. It can be done, however highly unlikely. Moving the date would also cost Coker money and piss off ticketholders.
6. Akiyama vs. Silva is still happening on the card. Just not the main event. Things have blown up in 2 days. White is going for the jugular.
Coker & Company will have to open up their wallets for Canseco/Walker…. Pay them extra to take a fight on short notice. They will lose money on the event…. That is from a confirmed source (all is, just clarifying) They are barely breaking even off a strong gate and just the 3 title fights… Walker/Jose is forced upon them by CBS who does not care if they lose money. They want to beat the UFC in the ratings…."
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=1606075&forum=1&page=1&pc=23
I’ve been saying, Kimbo getting pulled out of the website has more to do with counter programming than fighting james toney… Maybe I’m right. haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 5, 2010 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
Carmichael Dave on Twitter:
Rumored UFC card on Spike April 17th. Vanderbilt arena in Tennessee. Yes, same night and state as strikeforce.
Rumor:UFC on spike April 17th in Nashville countering strikeforce. Matt Serra in the main event, kimbo slice vs James Toney on the undercard
Twitter.com/mmagroundnpound
www.mmagroundnpound.com
lol really? they are rumored to hold the event in the same state? that’s just…mean.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
It’s actually in the same city, and the arena for the UFC show is (according to our trusty friend Google Maps) only a five minute drive down the road from the Strikeforce arena.
Oo !
Do you have a link to this on google map ? I can’t find both arena…
Strikeforce is at the Sommet Center (just renamed to the Bridgestone Arena in the last week or so) and Vanderbilt is a major university in Nashville. It looks like there’s an arena on the campus called the Memorial Gymnasium that holds around 15,000. The arena seems a bit large to host a Fight Night card but I couldn’t find a smaller venue in the area.
Serra in the main event?
Scratch Hardy and Swick.
Serra vs. GSP III
UFC on Spike: Deathcard
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
Absolutely. I'll start the funeral services for Serra right now.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
my money's on Serra everytime he fights GSP...
I don’t care. lol.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
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