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Takanori Gomi, Shinya Aoki, and the Recent History of Japanese Imports

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When Takanori Gomi and Shinya Aoki land Stateside, they will represent the pinnacle of the Japanese lightweight division past and present.  Gomi ruled PRIDE from 2004 to 2007, becoming the face of the Bushido series in the process.  When the "Fireball Kid" flamed out with the death of PRIDE, Shinya Aoki emerged as heir to his throne. 

Aoki's fight with Gilbert Melendez will be his first outside Japan and his first in a cage.  Gomi's UFC debut will be his second foray onto mainland American soil (previous being PRIDE's first Las Vegas show) and in a cage (Gomi fought B.J. Penn in a cage in Hawaii). 

The death of PRIDE neutered Japan as a hotbed for mixed martial arts.  Gone was the monolith organization capable of delivering world class shows.  In its wake, DREAM and World Victory Road have had to contend with a diminishing fanbase and wavering television ratings.  As a result, fighters previously content to stay home and make a very comfortable living have been attracted to the bright lights and fat wallets of American MMA.

So how have they done?

  • Kazuhiro Nakamura - Along with Gono and Chonan, Nakamura represented the first wave of Japanese talent that the UFC picked from PRIDE's remnants.  The UFC took no pity on him, and Nakamura lost his UFC debut to Lyoto Machida at UFC 76 in a one-sided affair.  Zuffa then cut him after a loss to Rameau Theirry Sokoudjou at UFC 84.
  • Akihiro Gono - Gono won his UFC debut (and Submission of the Night) over Tamdan McCrory at UFC 89.  Two straight losses to Dan Hardy at UFC 89 and Jon Fitch at UFC 94 sent Gono packing back to Japan.
  • Ryo Chonan - Chonan latched on to Dan Henderson's Team Quest and racked up the most UFC fights of PRIDE refugees.  Chonan went 1-3 in his UFC run, with losses to Karo Parisyan at UFC 78, Brad Blackburn at UFC 92, and T.J. Grant at UFC 97.  His lone victory came against Roan Carneiro at UFC 88.
  • Kazuo Misaki - On loan from World Victory Road, Misaki defeated Joe Riggs by controversial TKO at Strikeforce's second Playboy Mansion show.  He has not fought in the States since.
  • Caol Uno - Uno had issues with Dream Stage Entertainment (PRIDE's parent company) staff.  When K-1's HERO's show merged with the leftover DSE staff, Uno finished out his contract and bolted to the UFC, where he had last competed in September of 2003.  He lost a close decision in his first fight back to Spencer Fisher at UFC 99 and then drew Fabricio Camoes at UFC 106.  He fights Gleison Tibau on the Florian vs. Gomi undercard.
  • Mitsuhiro Ishida - A result of the initial talent exchange agreement between Strikeforce and DREAM, Ishida was TKO'd in a rematch with Gilbert Melendez at Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg. He earlier submitted Justin Wilcox for Strikeforce in 2008, earning one of the first Judo Chops in the process. 
  • Yoshihiro Akiyama - Akiyama's signing was a major coup for the UFC as the judoka is a huge draw in both his native Korea and adopted home of Japan.  He defeated Alan Belcher in a close decision at UFC 100 and is scheduled to fight Wanderlei Silva at UFC 116.

That adds up to a combined record of 5-9-1.  Yikes.  What's to blame?  Japan's fighters have shown two major weaknesses: an unwillingness to transplant and train Stateside and a tendency to forego the intense weight cuts typical of American fighters.

Gomi and Aoki are both among the bigger Japanese lightweights, with Aoki having competed above lightweight in the past.  While Gomi spent some time at both AKA and Xtreme Couture in the past year, it seems to be business as usual with their camps for their respective fights.  Can Gomi and Aoki buck the trend or will Kenny Florian and Gilbert Melendez extend America's dominance?

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lol

They are in fact MORANS.

"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.

by Rayce. on Mar 31, 2010 1:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

typical Cardinal fan

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by keyboardwarrior on Mar 31, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember being disappointed about Gono’s loss to Hardy. I scored it in favor of Gono. Same with Chonan/Blackburn, I remember it being very close but i had chonan on top.

by nastyem on Mar 31, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I had Gono beating Hardy on my card too

one problem he had was he was hitting Hardy with left hook slaps on every exchange but apparently had an injured hand so couldn’t punch with his left. Hardy was open for hooks all day.

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by Kid Nate on Mar 31, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would Dong Hyun Kim count too? Korean yes, but still fought in Jap promo’s before coming stateside.

by nastyem on Mar 31, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah that is a very derogatory term

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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 31, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woops, not where I’m from (australia). No harm intended.

by nastyem on Mar 31, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gomi probably has a better shot than Aoki.

Melendez isn’t going to get taken down to the ground that easily, and has an overwhelming advantage on the feet. Unfortunately, I have them both pegged to lose. I’d love for both of them to prove me wrong.

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by lowellthehammer on Mar 31, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

a tendency to forego the intense weight cuts typical of American fighters

I think this a a big factor…

by truck on Mar 31, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Another factor that I think is often overlooked at least with the initial wave of Pride guys coming to the UFC, the change from a 10 minute first round to 5. I don’t think that comes into play so much anymore but it is something I thought about. I was contemplating a fanpost or something exploring what fighters could benefit from having that 10 minute first round and if it may change our perception of certain fighters. The name that came to my mind was Clay Guida due to his insane cardio and stamina.

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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 31, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would probably help Cain against some of the bigger HW’s.

by ufc4 on Mar 31, 2010 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fighting a weight class or two above where you should be would have a tendency to do that. In fact I think it’s THE factor that tends to gimp Japanese fighters. Because they don’t cut weight they get Mir’d in every fight.

But for the lightweights, they don’t even really have a lot of choice. Lightweight is the smallest big money weight division in America; if they want to fight in the UFC they can’t do drastic cuts because that would knock them into featherweight territory and out of paying weight classes entirely.

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by toxic on Mar 31, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somehow I don’t think he’s the one actually writing that…

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by Tim Burke on Mar 31, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I heard the Mach/Diaz fight was happening at DREAM, therefore it’d be non-title…

by CSKit on Mar 31, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could be mistaken though…

by CSKit on Mar 31, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't it be

Diaz vs Gono? Why does anyone want to see Sakurai fight in the states? Because he beat Shibata and then Aoki at welterweight? And he’s lost 2 fights in a row, including against Zaromskis, who just fought Diaz and got destroyed. I guess all SF cares is Diaz will look good.

by Nyfeh on Mar 31, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went through this before too. Gono’s with SRC, not talent sharing agreement with SF.

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by Tim Burke on Mar 31, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know… I guess once Diaz plows through Mach we’ll FINALLY see Diaz-Hieron? An actual fight, perhaps…

by Nyfeh on Mar 31, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Florian is 34. Gomi 31. I take Gomi. Florian is not invincible like Penn. KenFlo’s sleepin’ on Fireball Kid.

by Postpubescent on Mar 31, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

i don’t necessarily think it’s a japanese transplant problem.

sokoudjou, shogun, wanderlei, and countless others that transferred from pride also had poor outings their first couple of gos. nakamura and chonan, and maybe even uno weren’t consistent fighters to begin with anyway.

by slantedwindows on Mar 31, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Many people have sighted steroids as a possible cause...

I don’t buy into that much though. The cage, the weight cut, the variation of the rules and maybe even the game planning are all factors.

by truck on Mar 31, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

And for Shogun, injuries.

by ufc4 on Mar 31, 2010 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is Shinya Aoki one of the bigger Japanese LW’s? He’s fought at WW, but he’s also fought at FW as well I think.

What gets overlooked in terms of weight cutting is the way fights are scheduled here and there. In the U.S, or at least in the UFC you typically have 8 weeks at the very least before a fight is scheduled, meaning the guys can cut down like crazy and plan it all out. In Japan, where you might be told in a week you’re going to be fighting, its not so practical to walk around at way above your fighting weight.

by TLow on Mar 31, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Shinya Aoki one of the bigger Japanese LW’s? He’s fought at WW, but he’s also fought at FW

I was thinking the same thing…

by truck on Mar 31, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

When has Aoki fought at FW? I’ve never heard that.

by JRN on Mar 31, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just looked over Aoki’s record, and I’m pretty sure he’s never fought at FW, unless it was one of the first couple fights of his career.

by JRN on Mar 31, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just watch his fights

He almost always towers over his opponents. The only exceptions are when he faces guys that train out of North American gyms (Alvarez, JZ, etc). The only Japanese guy I can think of who is as big as Aoki is Kawajiri, and he is a big LW even by North American standards.

by Steve4192 on Mar 31, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Took a look Aoki's record

he’s actually fought at higher weights. He’s fought and won at 160,168, and 170, so its not as if he’s horribly undersized at 155. At the same time, even when he’s fought as a lightweight he never seemed to have the strength and power to control his opponents, he’s always relied more on pure skill.

by Balrog on Mar 31, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm rooting for Gomi

But I really think Kenny is gonna fight like he did against Huerta and make it a boring fight. Kenny by Decision. =(

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by xFenixKnightx on Mar 31, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Fail. Emoticon chopped in half. :’(

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by xFenixKnightx on Mar 31, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gono

Got a raw deal. He got robbed in the Hardy fight and then Fitched for 15 mins, like everyone else. He got cut for losing to two title contenders in a row, one of which was bunk and one is the best WW not named GSP.

Asinine.

by Chris Barton on Mar 31, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I concur

I really thought he got the shaft. I’m hoping he returns stateside soon. I’ll be happy with either the UFC or Strikeforce.

by John Nash on Mar 31, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

UFC are cheap, they don’t like paying guys like Gono 50k+ in purse money when they can get half a dozen midwest wrestlers for that price. Even if Gono has totally earned his quote.

by smoogy2 on Mar 31, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gono was making that much? They just misused him from the start. When he won SotN Rogan did nothing but talk mad shit about him that entire fight. They never put him or his entrances on the main card, which would have FOR SURE got him fan support. His style is totally unique in MMA and the guy is INSANELY marketable.

They just dropped the ball.

by Chris Barton on Mar 31, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, he was making 28k/28k.

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by Tim Burke on Mar 31, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAR AOKI

Melendez will get taken to the ground, whether its one of Aoki’s picture perfect double legs or a flying guard pull, Melendez is going to the ground. If the fight isn’t over in the first 20 seconds of the fight, I give it to Aoki.

by Nyfeh on Mar 31, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Been watching Melendez train stand-up at my gym against lefties. Aoki might be in for it.

by Postpubescent on Mar 31, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sad that Aoki gonna be seen by all America crying after he gets TKOd

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by xFenixKnightx on Mar 31, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about Yoshiyuki Yoshida?

he’s gone 2-2 in the UFC

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by Kid Nate on Mar 31, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

and does Yushin Okami count? Did he ever fight in Pride? I’ve seen some vids of him training with Chael Sonnen and Matt Lindland after he lost to Sonnen. Kinda kewl.

by bassturd on Mar 31, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

IIRC he fought in ‘The Best’ series, not on Bushido. Those shows were awful for the most part, but did feature a few guys who turned into legit fighters (Okami, Overeem).

by Steve4192 on Mar 31, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

PRIDE Bushido 2

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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 31, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He fought Ryuta Sakurai in one of the most boring fights I’ve ever seen. Best thing about it was the way the commentators mis-pronounced his name

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by StevenGiles on Mar 31, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

what, OH-cuh-me (heheh) instead of Oh-CAH-me? They were actually pronouncing it correctly.

by Grappo on Apr 1, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps they were pronouncing it right, it just sounded odd. like Oak A Meeee

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by StevenGiles on Apr 1, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah Okami

kind of throws off Fagan’s argument.

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by Kid Nate on Mar 31, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not entirely—by most accounts Okami is the one Japanese fighter who is quite big for his weight class. And he came to train at TQ after losing to Sonnen.

by JRN on Mar 31, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

true true

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by Kid Nate on Mar 31, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are only two Japanese guys who I think of as big for their weightclasses. Okami is one, Kawajiri is the other, and they both have a similar smothering takedown & control based style. That is why I think Kawajiri has the best chance of the current crop of Japanese LWs to really make some noise if he ever comes to North America.

by Steve4192 on Mar 31, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Daisuke Nakamura 2-1
Hideo Tokoro 1-0
Kazushi Sakuraba 0-1

by smoogy2 on Mar 31, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Tokoro ever fought in the UFC. And Sakuraba would be something like 1-0-0-1.

Also:

Michihiro Omigawa 0-2
Dokonjonosuke Mishima 0-2

by JRN on Mar 31, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mishima was already in the UFC before PRIDE collapsed, but you’re right about Omigawa

Tokoro fought at Dynamite USA and beat current WEC fighter Brad Pickett via submission

And Sakuraba’s loss gets a (*) because of Royce Gracie testing positive I suppose

by smoogy2 on Mar 31, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I thought were were talking UFC, not just stateside post-PRIDE. My bad.

by JRN on Mar 31, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can add

Hayato Sakurai 0-1. That loss coming against Matt Hughes, of course.

by John Nash on Mar 31, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yoshida is a solid fighter but anyone else reckon he’s freaking tiny for ww? I know Rumble is a beast, but even against Koscheck he looked tiny. His judo skills could cause a stir amongst the wrestlers of the lw division if he dropped down

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by StevenGiles on Mar 31, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Generally most Japanese fighters

seem to struggle stateside why? My theories
1) Styles. Styles make fights and wrestling is American dominated while we see more variations in Japan.
2) Judging is different. Fighters with success in Japan doesn’t necessarily translate into wins in the US. This has everything to do with style as well.

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by achengy on Mar 31, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I think you’re right on both counts. I think judging is especially hard for guy from Japan to get the hang of over here.

by Chris Barton on Mar 31, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Hironaka? 0 and 2 wasn’t he? Be interesting to see how many Japanese based fighters either dropped weight classes whilst in the UFC or after getting cut

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by StevenGiles on Mar 31, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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