UFC Fight Night 21: Florian vs. Gomi Weigh-in Results
by Nick Thomas on Mar 30, 2010 5:51 PM EDT
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Make sure to join us at BloodyElbow.com for today's "UFC Fight Night 21: Florian vs. Gomi" weigh-ins at 4:00 PM EST: (video stream here)
Main Bouts:-- photo via combatlifestyle.com
Kenny Florian (156) vs. Takanori Gomi (155)
Roy Nelson (263) vs. Stefan Struve (248)
Nate Quarry (186) vs. Jorge Rivera (186)
Ross Pearson (156) vs. Dennis Siver (156)
Preliminary Bouts:
Andre Winner (156) vs. Rafaello Oliveira (156)
Ronys Torres (155) vs. Jacob Volkmann (155)
Nik Lentz (155) vs. Rob Emerson (154)
Gleison Tibau (156) vs. Caol Uno (156)
Yushin Okami (184) vs. Lucio Linhares (184)
Gerald Harris (186) vs. Mario Miranda (186)
Jason High (170) vs. Charlie Brenneman (170)
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obligatory request for the espn streaming link since UFC.com is banned from work and will go down for others
by Polyhedron on Mar 30, 2010 11:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah try http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ – and put in http://www.ufc.com/live/ – translate french to english.
by Nick Thomas on Mar 30, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
No dice, the site loads up but it fails to play the video. My workplace’s firewall is strong as fuck.
by Polyhedron on Mar 30, 2010 2:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Stop being a time thief and watch it at home later.
And people wonder why India and China are kicking the shit out of us.
:)
by fozo on Mar 30, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My winner picks... Oddly mostly on the left.
Main Bouts:
Kenny Florian (12-4) vs. Takanori Gomi (31-5)
Roy Nelson (14-4) vs. Stefan Struve (19-3)
Nate Quarry (12-3) vs. Jorge Rivera (17-7)
Ross Pearson (10-3) vs. Dennis Siver (15-6)
Preliminary Bouts:
Andre Winner (10-3-1) vs. Rafaello Oliveira (10-2)
Ronys Torres (18-2) vs. Jacob Volkmann (9-2)
Nik Lentz (17-3-2) vs. Rob Emerson (9-8)
Gleison Tibau (20-6) vs. Caol Uno (25-12-5) Draw
Yushin Okami (23-5) vs. Lucio Linhares (13-5)
Gerald Harris (14-2) vs. Mario Miranda (11-0)
Jason High (9-2) vs. Charlie Brenneman (11-1)
I like all those but am leaning towards Siver and Volkmann.. Tibau/Uno draw? I wonder what kind of odds you can get on that!
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 30, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If Uno gets another draw
I think he deserves some kind of honorary award or something. The Caol Uno Sister-Kissing Medal of Achievement.
My thoughts on Tibau / Uno are:
Tibau comes out strong and does well in the first round. He is a beast and a powerhouse, but he also gasses and can fight sloppy.
The second round will be harder to call. Tibau will have slowed down and may be completely nullified or recieve a point deduction, who knows, but Uno will probably figured him out and will be in control. Control for Uno = do next to nothing, Uno is the master of the 10 – 10 round after all… One of the last two rounds will be 10 – 10 and Uno will win the other,
Tibau is going to try to put his fist through Uno’s face. That’s been the story for him in the lead-up, and he’s apparently been working heavily on his striking. Uno is pretty quick, so this could get interesting if Uno can take him down on the counter and control.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Tibau would have had to do major work on his striking for that strategy to pay off.
It isn’t like he was almost there…
One way or another I think Tibau’s size and strength will win him a round and may be enough for a stalemate in the second. Even if it is a bit of a dozer, I am still interested Uno is sometimes a boring fighter, but I do find a beauty in his game..
Tibau stated he trained almost entirely stand-up, and he’s been at it for quite a long time. We’ll see. I doubt it’ll be vastly better, but Uno can be a surprise in the striking department. He might actually counter Tibau’s misses.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL! Nice Draw call for the only non-left side pick.
I’m stoned, that’s pretty damn funny anyway right? LOL
Look how big Gomi’s jaw is compared to the narrow jaw of Kenny.
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Yeah Gomi has a case of Tito-head it seems.
by Polyhedron on Mar 30, 2010 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He has finished in almost 92% of his victories...
That is a very high number, especially for a lightweight…
That is hands down the best quote I've ever heard to describe our sport..
That just blew my mind
what was it?
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Renzo said
something a lot the lines of
‘Other sports you only need one ball to play. Our sport, you need two of them. And they better be made of steel’
Or something along those lines.
I hate that.
I really hate the “big balls needed” “X-games” style shit.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 30, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
it does though
Why do you hate it?
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by Rayce. on Mar 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well…for one. I don’t think you need “bigger balls” to compete in MMA than you do boxing, or football, or soccer, or baseball. But I know that’s just going to piss people off.
For another it’s just such an x-games style quote.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 30, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Soccer and baseball are non contacts sports and relatively safe, soccer hooligans aside...
They are a completely different ball game (no pun intended) than any combat or even contact sports. Some people just don’t have what it take for contacts sports. That is a fact. “Bigger balls” is just a fun way to say it.
Soccer is very rough – how can you say it’s not a contact sport?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 30, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Soccer is actually extremely physical. I’d say it depends exactly on how we’re defining “what it takes.” I meet men on a regular basis at regional MMA events who I don’t think are particularly ballsy or awesome but they’ve had 12 career fights.
Getting up in the 9th inning of a baseball game in a tie game and being expected to perform arguably the hardest feat in sports by hitting a ball with movement and speed on it with a bat in front of a huge crowd takes just as much in the “balls” department to me as someone being willing to get punched in the face.
Not to mention that you’re at risk of getting drilled in the head by a 90+ MPH fastball David Wright style when batting or taking one to the head Hiroki Kuroda style.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 30, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not really convinced
When you start a soccer or a baseball game, you’re not expecting broken bones, deep cuts and concussions. It can happen but they are freak injuries. When you enter a ring (or an octagon), you kinda know it’s part of the game, their is a high percentage of chances you’re gonna get messed up to achieve victory. And if you’re an infighter and you face a good outboxer that ess you up with jabs, you accept to take a punishment just to land a body blow…
I don’t know. I respect every sports, I respect curling players, but I just can’t put boxing and soccer in the same category as far as courage…guts goes.
I'm a lover not a fighter
There are lots of people who won't play football, etc. because they don't like hitting and getting hit.
Same would be said about combat sports or the large number of people who quit hockey when they are old enough for hitting.
It is a different mind set or mentality that people have. You can call it anything, it doesn’t have to be “balls”. I am not saying there is anything less credible about any other kind of athlete. I am jusat saying contact sports require a different mind set. Some may call it “balls”, some may even call it “stupid”. If you are denying that there is a difference in mindset, I think you are wrong.
Coming out in the 9th inning to hit a ball is a nerves thing, that is there in every single kind of competition. Even in golf and badminton…
My whole point is just that I don’t really think it takes a special courage to fight. I love this sport (obviously) but I don’t think it requires an insane amount of guts. Whatever. It’s kind of pointless to continue the discussion on this topic at this point.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 30, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Soccer has one of the highest percentage of injuries
by dancingChicken on Mar 30, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Difference is
When you’re playing soccer, you go in knowing (generally speaking) that nobody has the intention of hurting you.
With combat, it’s very different.
With one, damage to the body is the collateral, but with combat it’s the whole point.
You got rugby and what you call football, pure contact sports, hurting is part of the game.
I'm a lover not a fighter
I don't call it football
I’m not American =p. Football is football, I just said soccer for ease of communication.
Rugby/US Football – again, yes, hurting is part of the game but not the intention. A guy trying to stop some guy running for the touchdown or tri isn’t going to keep chasing him to knock his ass over if that guy drops the ball..
On the other hand, with combat sports you know that it is necessary to protect yourself at all times, whereas you don’t step into the batters’ box expecting to take a heater off your squash. Courage is a very relative concept as it applies to sports and you could make a case for the amount needed to compete in everything from MMA to football to polo.
Soccer and baseball are non contacts sports and relatively safe, soccer hooligans aside…
Soccer is different that rugby and American football, but it’s still very physical and not relatively safe. I’m not implying that it’s similar to combat sports.
by dancingChicken on Mar 31, 2010 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions
gettin punched in the face requires a bit of fortitude
people often describe this as “big balls”
Renzo is on tough SOB.. i could listen to him talk for hours
have u ever even been in a fight??
by MMAJUNKIE__83 on Mar 30, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m going to commence the slow clap 30 minutes before weigh-ins for Gomi…
CLAP….. CLAP….. CLAP…
eerily voices in unison —→ Gomi…
CLAP….. CLAP….. CLAP….
Gomi…
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Yushin Okami =
Greatest undercard fighter ever. Seriously when was the last time he was on a main card?
Is this rhetorical or do you want somebody to look it up for you
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 30, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Evan Tanner at UFC 82
That’s only three fights ago.
Hard to get him back on the main card consistently after that UFC 72 disaster where he was the headliner.
Sig bet record: 1-0.
I personally
don’t think they were really pushing Okami that well. They were really expecting Franklin to sell more I guess… but yeah Japanese guy with no English skills likely would be a tough sell especially if no one sees his fights.
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Uno looks bigger than usual?
Or Tibau is so dehydrated he looks much smaller than usual..?
Uno definitely seemed bigger. He even turned around on the scale to show off his back muscles.
by Chris Nelson on Mar 30, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
What the…
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ronys is from Amazonas, repping his native peoples.
by Chris Nelson on Mar 30, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t lie, Chris. It says 4 tokens for $10 on his back for the local car wash.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
…
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Mar 30, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really big on Andre Winner
I thought his striking looked terrific last time out.
I mean, he was fighting Delgado, but still. Looked sharp as hell.
CLAP….. CLAP….. CLAP…
CLAP….. CLAP….. CLAP….
Gomi…
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 30, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
sprawl n brawl *giggle
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by xFenixKnightx on Mar 30, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you dude
CLAP….. CLAP….. CLAP…
CLAP….. CLAP….. CLAP….
Gomi…
CLAP….. CLAP….. CLAP…
Gomi…
CLAP….. CLAP….. CLAP….
Gomi…
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 30, 2010 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
The first MMA event I watched live was the Pride NYE one
When Gomi sprawled on Ishida, just flipped him over and laid him out.
I was hooked and never looked back
GOMI!
GOMI!
GOMI!
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GOMI! GOMI! GOMI!
Please God, I don’t believe in you, but if you do exist, please let Gomi beat the ever living shit out of Kenflo. Not that I have anything against him; I just can’t deal with another Rich Franklin in the LW division…
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by pud333 on Mar 30, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Does anyone else wish
We were watching Okami, or Uno, or Winner, or Torres over this Quarry Rivera fight?
The fight will be 'good'
but you just know it’ll be a messy fight.
I hate those type of fights.
Struve
needs to go train his striking in Holland for a year
Then work with Eddie Bravo for a year
Then he will win all the prizes
He needs to grow a set and stop being scared to strike. I’m sure confidence in his defense would help as well, but he just has horrid defense.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
struve needs to put on a lot of weight, and roy looks like he seriously needs a better camp
by Austin Martin on Mar 30, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
if he wins this i bet he finds one, he’ll be a middle of the road contender
by Austin Martin on Mar 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If he wins this he'll take it as evidence that he doesn't need a camp.
He’ll only learn if he loses.
His belly looks smaller in his picture.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
He never learns from his losses.
I’m not trying to shit on the guy but Luke was right on his radio show a few weeks back. After the interview with Roy he really talked a lot about how Roy takes his wins as proof that he doesn’t need to switch up his training, and his losses as proof of nothing.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 30, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe he takes his losses as an indicator that he needs to change his diet up. Burger King will become White Castle, which will become In-and-Out Burger.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the problem.
Nelson is alway going to avoid camps because a) he’s succeeded without them and b) he doesn’t want to have people telling him what to do. Even if/when he gets blown out of the water by somebody, he’ll still justify training out of his house because that’s what he’s comfortable with. Sad to see his potential squandered out of stubbornness, but it is what it is.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 30, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
From Roy's twitter
About an hour and a half ago:
roynelsonmma Just arrived at the arena for weigh ins can’t wait to eat
from last night
roynelsonmma: just got done eating a whopper, can’t wait to eat again
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
CLAP….. CLAP….. CLAP…
Gomi…
CLAP….. CLAP….. CLAP….
Gomi…
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
fuck that, he just didn’t want to look into the eyes of a dead man
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's smart logic.
Fedor looks like he just took a shit and played World of Warcraft for months… and still kills people.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
How’s that?
Hervey beat the shit out of Gomi in terms of damage. Nakakura got clowned though.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
That’s what I just said. HERVEY B-E-A-T the SHIT out of G-O-M-I despite Gomi winning.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose were were on the same side
I was agreeing with “Gomi looks like he just don’t give a fack anymo”
which you disputed…
by saying
“Gomi’s recent track record says the same thing though… "
Are you just looking at his record, or did you watch the fights?
by Chris Nelson on Mar 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
wtf
Someone post a weigh-in image of Gomi so I can see how defined he is. Is he in phenomenal shape?
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I love how Gomi always has that confused, "What the fuck am I doing here?" look on his face.
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I thought Gomi never looks?
He always looks down
by cobracore on Mar 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I want Gomi to win this fight in spectacular fashion infinitely more than I have wanted anyone else to win any other fight.
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by Nick Becker on Mar 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’ll never wish that for anyone more than I do for Wandy
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 30, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine Kenny will employ a gameplan to avoid striking altogether. Gomi used to be a precision wrecking machine. He’d land straight lefts and follow with devastatingly accurate rights and so on. The surprising part is that he hasn’t really lost that. He just lost the speed and strength from being lazy over the last couple of years.
If he can actually stifle Kenny from taking him down, Kenny could be in trouble in on the feet from one combination. I think Kenny is strong enough to get this to the ground unfortunately though.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The same Kenny that didn't look anywhere close to finishing a TD on Penn?
People forget that Gomi is a very good wrestler in his own right, and I can’t see a guy like Kenny dragging him to the ground. Kenny is good everywhere, great nowhere; if Gomi can outstrike Kenny I am convinced he can win.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 30, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody is forgetting that Gomi is a high-level wrestler, but Gomi also had massive depression and motivation problems. Regaining all that strength back and focusing on his wrestling and striking is going to be a massive undertaking.. and to be honest, every damn mixed martial arts fan should fucking erupt in applause if Gomi pulls this off tomorrow. He’s fighting two foes, not just one.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 30, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll never forget when I was at Pride Bushido 3 and saw him ko Ralph Gracie in like 7 seconds with a knee. That isn’t the memorable part though, the fighter videos before the intro were crazy. They showed Ralp Gracie training, beating people up etc, and then they cut to Gomi’s video and it is him in a classroom with little kids and playing around with them. It was so obviously portrayed as this tough foreign guy is here to try to destroy our kind hearted hero who enjoys teaching little children in his free time
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 30, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I know he's lazy
I didn’t know he’s depressed. Is that even true? I thought he was just bumming about and taking care of his gym.
Same here, I just don’t see it happening. Money’s on Kenny, and I’m hoping I lose it.
by Polyhedron on Mar 30, 2010 4:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with you 100%
I mean, apart from Aoki Melendez, which hasn’t happened yet
I have never been so pumped and at the same time so worried for my fighter…
Nothing against Florian, but I want Gomi to absolutely destroy him. It will add new life to a division that is suffering from the ‘super-dominant-champion’ syndrome.
I love Edgar
I think he’s awesome, big heart, down to earth guy who’s fighting a weight above what he should be..
But I would MUCH rather Penn be the champ than Edgar. Penn is just really fucking fun to watch, he’s crazy technical AND puts a major hurting on most guys.
Yeah. He has been adding muscle every time out.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 30, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because I took the 10 seconds to look it up, I'll add this:
He weighed in at 240 last February, 248 in June, 243.5 in October and 247 in December.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 30, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
here's him at 248 in June (UFC 99) - he was the same weight as yesterday, but looks better now than he did then.
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