Dana White on James Toney: "We Won't Make a Freak Show Out of It"
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 3, 2010 10:58 PM EST
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PrintWhile Dana White's plans for the newly signed fighter, James Toney hasn't been finalized yet, he insists that he didn't get him to be involved in 'freak show' fights:
"We threw the kitchen sink at Brock when he came in. Are we going to do that same thing with James? I don’t know. To be 100 percent honest with you, all [expletive] aside, I haven’t thought it out."
"I like James Toney. He’s one of the greatest boxers ever. I have tremendous respect for him. He said he wanted to fight in the UFC and I was interested. Now he’s here and I have to figure out what to do with him. What we won’t do is make a freak show out of it. I’d be the first to scream if someone else did that, so I’m not going to do it."
"Hey, I don’t want this to be seen as a joke, and it’s not like Herschel Walker or Canseco or any of those guys. James Toney is a fighter. The worst thing anyone can ever say to me is that they were watching one of my fights and they changed the channel. That’s why I’ll never put [expletive] fights on."
"James is an interesting case. We know how much talent he has as a boxer and he insists he’ll surprise people by how much MMA he knows. I’ve still got some thinking to do. But if we promote him and he does well and that raises his profile and he gets a Klitschko fight and makes a lot of money for himself and Goossen, I’d be cool with that. But James came to me and he literally chased me around the country to do it, so I’m giving him the chance. We’ll get it figured out one way or another."
Dana, who confirmed that Toney will still be allowed to box, also shared a tidbit about Strikeforce being in talks with the 41-year-old boxer prior to the signing:
"We’ll figure something out. I’m not really sure. Here’s the thing with James: We were sitting around finishing the deal and talking and he told me that he’d been talking to Strikeforce. He said they were talking to him about a fight with Herschel Walker. James said to me, ‘Do you know what I’d do to that [expletive]?’ He looked at me and said, ‘You know, I have a lot of pride and I’d never do anything to embarrass myself. I’m a fighter. I want to fight. And don’t ever underestimate me.’ "
UPDATE - James Toney comments on signing with the UFC, says boxing is still his main focus:
“Don’t make wise cracks about my weight, because I’ve been working hard and the next time you see me, you’ll be shocked. Dana put his foot in his mouth and said UFC guys are better fighters than boxers. We’ll see. Everyone who knows anything about fighting knows I’m the purest fighter in the game. There ain’t no secrets."
“I’ve been fighting a long time. I was born fighting. I know what I’m doing. Boxing is still my main focus, but them guys are a bunch of (expletives) and they don’t want to fight. So I called Dana after he put his foot in his mouth and I’m going to prove he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.”
HT: Yahoo!
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This comment sums it up best from Dana:
To be 100 percent honest with you, all [expletive] aside, I haven’t thought it out."
by Jmend255 on Mar 3, 2010 9:36 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
James Toney is still a less of a freak show signing then walker and canseco. He was former hw champion of the world. Not that means shit entering MMA at 41 but if people were ok with walker doing it then they shouldn’t have a problem with Tony. He is more qualified
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Mar 3, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
While there are some that had no problem with Walker doing MMA, there was a large contingent of fans that did take issue with it, and still do. If I were to make a guess as to who Toney will fight, it will probably be the winner of Kimbo vs Mitrione, or they might just give him Kimbo. Stylistically, skillwise, experience-wise, and name-wise, those are the only two fighters who would make sense for Toney.
KIMBO SLICE VS JAMES TONEY WILL BE HUGE!!
Noooooooooo!
A freak show is what I want. A couple of well-placed freak shows every year would be awesome.
I specializes in grammar fail.
That’s not fair to James Toney. He says he is getting into MMA to fight other fighters, not superheroes.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Mar 3, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
This
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
I can’t wait for Shaq vs the Techno Goliath.
by John Nash on Mar 3, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dana always delivers promoter speak.
“Hey, I don’t want this to be seen as a joke, and it’s not like Herschel Walker or Canseco or any of those guys. James Toney is a fighter. The worst thing anyone can ever say to me is that they were watching one of my fights and they changed the channel. That’s why I’ll never put [expletive] fights on.”
Really, Herschel Walker was a freak show or an idea that Dana saw work and smartly leached onto?
by bignerd on Mar 3, 2010 9:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Herschel Walker didn’t work that well and if Dana was wanting to latch onto doing celebrity freakshows he bought the company that mastered that art years ago. It’s not like putting a celebrity into a fight was something new or interesting that no one ever thought of until Walker fought.
by who me on Mar 3, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Pride were master’s of it, the UFC has at least stayed away from regular celebrities but they aren’t above celebrity fighters. Heck one is holding their heavyweight belt now (just because he worked out so well in MMA doesn’t change what he came in as). I don’t see the UFC ever using guys like Conseco or Walker in the promotion but a fighter is a fighter to them(see Gracie vs Hughes or Ken Shamrock’s vs Tito which they did three times or Kimbo Slice on TUF). James Toney in MMA is a joke but he is a professional prize fighter at least, it’s a different kind of fighting for him but it’s not like he’s a stranger to fighting for money on a professional level.
Hey, as long as we never see...
Danny Bonaducci fighting DMX…
or Jose Canseco fighting a guy with NO arms and NO legs…
ITs all good…
The thing that IS confusing is that EVERYONE KNOWS that the UFC has the BEST of all the fighters from all over the world…You can argue that a few fighters are not in the UFC YET! but everyone knows that the UFC does stuff the right way…
Fans can sometimes be confused when they see Kimbo Slice fighting, but only fighting Matt Mitrione and not Brock Lesnar…
Kimbo is for marketing purposes…Kimbo will never beat a slightly below average fighter in the UFC…He is not good and has NO power. Meathead will KO him in the first round…
That dude has done SO much for UFC/SpIKE…
Why not have Kimbo?? Dana is not going to promote him as the BEST fighter in the world or even a good fighter…
The bottom line is that Kimbo is going to make a whole lot more money than his fighting skills are worth…
Dana is not going to make the right business decision in this situation…
I am sure that DAna is not going to feed him to the Lions like what he did with Brock/Werdum/DoSsantos…
Dana will probably have Toney fight Antoni Hardonk or a TUF 10 Castoff…
If He doesnt win fights or bring viewer attention…
Dana will Cut his A$$ in a second…
Why would Dana sacrafice the integrity of his product??
I think it worked out better than most think. Dana was already pissed after the Herschel fight about how much publicity it got. It wasn’t that he was a Celebrity as much as a HUGE named athlete taking his shot at MMA, just like he got a lot of press when he was on the Bobsled Team…and Herschel got A LOT of coverage on news outlets for his fight.
Maybe Dana wants to play on that a bit with having a pretty big name boxer coming over to fight MMA…lots of angles on that one.
So…if it didn’t work out, them why was Dana bitching about all the publicity it got???
www.kickboxingandbjj.com
Where’s Iron Mike in all of this?UFC presents Mike Tyson vs Kimo Slice
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
then I’m the one with the broken sacasmeter! haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 3, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
toney vs kimbo
would sell like a mufugga.
by blam!thud... on Mar 3, 2010 9:45 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
so here is the thing-
if he is serious he needs to get close to 205 and fight there against some more striker based fighters. He needs to learn some TD defence and he needs to have good cardio.
If he is making good money, then they will throw him in the deep end, T.Silva or Rampage? if not then cro cop, kongo, berry or a wrestler?
Kongo would be a good match up. Kongo is fairly relevant but out of title contention. No ground game either. More than Toney though id asume.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
takedown, brutal GnP, game over.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 3, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rise, repeat
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
RINSE
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
thats what she said
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
Kongo would chop the legs, can take him down and disfigure him form the guard. BUT, he almost got KOed by Mir, still, I see this as a bad match up. Give him buentello.
"You hit too hard, too hard, too hard..."
Leg kicks would be worse for a boxer
than BJJ…
If they are paying him good money it means they are going to plot a path that maximizes their return of investment.
They will schedule an easy initial opponent that will also garner a lot of intrigue and sales (possibly Kimbo). Based on his performance they will chart out a PPV and opponent that will sell the best.
Dropping him into the deep end to see him sink is an awful business proposal.
Current list of UFC heavyweights(or as good as you can get from UFC’s sucky website that doesn’t even have Kimbo listed):
Al Turk Mostapha 6-5-0 6’ 2" (188 cm) 242 (110 kg)
Barry Pat 5-1-0 5’ 11" (180 cm) 235 (107 kg)
Buentello Paul 25-11-0 6’ 2" (188 cm) 235 (107 kg)
Carwin Shane 11-0-0 6’ 5" (196 cm) 265 (120 kg)
Ciesnolevicz Mike 18-4-1 6’ 1" (185 cm) 230 (104 kg)
Cro Cop Mirko 26-7-2, 1 NC 6’ 2" (188 cm) 220 (100 kg)
Dos Santos Junior 10-1-0 6’ 4" (193 cm) 238 (108 kg)
Duffee Todd 6-0-0 6’ 3" (191 cm) 260 (118 kg)
Frazier Zane 0-2-0 6’ 6" (198 cm) 230 (104 kg)
Gonzaga Gabriel 11-4-0 6’ 1" (185 cm) 242 (110 kg)
Gordeau Gerard 2-1-0 6’ 5" (196 cm) 215 (98 kg)
Gormley Chase 6-1-0 6’ 3" (191 cm) 265 (120 kg)
Hardonk Antoni 8-6-0 6’ 4" (193 cm) 245 (111 kg)
Herring Heath 28-14-0 6’ 4" (193 cm) 250 (113 kg)
Kongo Cheick 24-6-1 6’ 4" (193 cm) 240 (109 kg)
Lesnar Brock 4-1-0 6’ 3" (191 cm) 265 (120 kg)
Mir Frank 13-4-0 6’ 3" (191 cm) 240 (109 kg)
Nelson Roy 15-4-0 6’ 0" (183 cm) 263 (119 kg)
Nogueira Minotauro 32-6-1, 1 NC 6’ 3" (191 cm) 240 (109 kg)
Perosh Anthony 10-6-0 6’ 3" (191 cm) 225 (102 kg)
Rothwell Ben 30-7-0 6’ 4" (193 cm) 265 (120 kg)
Russow Mike 12-1-0, 1 NC 6’ 1" (185 cm) 255 (116 kg)
Smith Patrick 4-2-0 6’ 2" (188 cm) 225 (102 kg)
Struve Stefan 23-3-0 6’ 11" (211 cm) 238 (108 kg)
Tuchscherer Chris 18-2-0, 1 NC 6’ 1" (185 cm) 260 (118 kg)
Velasquez Cain 8-0-0 6’ 1" (185 cm) 240 (109 kg)
Yvel Gilbert 36-14-1, 1 NC 6’ 2" (188 cm) 225 (102 kg)
I think we can go down the list and drop all the top talent and the ground fighters and get a decent idea what Toney will see for his first couple of fights.
I cut/pasted that list of heavyweights straight from their website, he has a bio but he’s not listed in with their fighters.
That’s because he fights at Kimbo weight – 215.
by John Nash on Mar 3, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I didn’t get that press release in my inbox.
by Jonathan Snowden on Mar 3, 2010 9:53 PM EST reply actions
maybe Iole has a different mailbox where Dana white can easily insert stuff.
[if you read this Iole, I’m kidding. Hi]
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 3, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Non-Exclusive Contract Also Huh?
For the first time, the UFC will have to manage the schedule of one of its fighters with someone else, since Toney’s contract allows him to box.
Hi Jose/joseph (which ever is right). You should post more often. I like you a LOT better than some of the new guys. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 3, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Gonna take him in the back...
>.>
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Mar 4, 2010 5:06 AM EST up reply actions
Wow...
Lots of shit can change after a 5 hours of sleep…
If Derek Jeter clubbed a baby seal on earth day while wearing a mink coat and crocodile skin boots while burning tires on an iceberg, the reaction would be "Its OK Derek, you’re a Yankee." -First mammal to wear pants
Toney vs. Tank Abbott
Bring him back to the UFC and have that headline the next UFC Fight Night.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
from WKR
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 3, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I think it’s more of: “Why didn’t I think of that?”
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 3, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
I've got it.
Toney vs Kanye get it done, Kanye is a lyrical mother fuckin word smith
by ChillMike on Mar 3, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully this is Dana signing him to prove that boxers won’t stand a chance against a true Martial Artist
I told you not to f*ck with me.
The amount of attention we are giving it is what’s silly. A former boxing champ, who Dana is a huge fanboy of, is going to try his hand in the Octagon. As long as they don’t go the Gracie vs Hughes route, and overhype the shit out of his fights I have no problem with it. Give him a lower level UFC HW (no Kimbo!) and lets see what he can do. I’m predicting failure, but I am also hoping he’ll prove me wrong.
If that is the case then expect him to draw Big Country for his first fight. Being crucifixed by a fat man would do the trick. Still we shouldn’t forget that Dana White came from a boxing background and is a huge fan of boxing the sport (his issue with boxing is the promoters not the actual sport).
Very true, but the way I look at is, James Toney has been calling Dana out on what seems like a daily basis, calling out fighters, so Dana says ok, here is your money, go fight this guy, and then hopefully Nelson does get a crack at him and lays on him. Although, that would be alot of fat between the 2 of them.
I told you not to f*ck with me.
How is boxing not a true martial art?
I think it’s a silly martial art, mind you, but it still is one.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 3, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
How can you say the sweet science is silly when the quarterstaff, fencing, grappling in full plate armour, and the pommel horse in gymnastics are all martial arts as well?
1. The quarterstaff is a highly effective martial art. It’s called “The Grandfather of all Weapons” in China for a reason.
2. Authentic Renaissance fencing is badass. Modern fencing is it’s gelded version. I think of it like boxing.
3. Grappling in full armor was a necessary art of war in both Eastern and Western warfare.
4. Pommel horse is a martial art? Really? Why? It shouldn’t be – where’s the combat?
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 3, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Pommel horse is a martial art? Really? Why? It shouldn’t be – where’s the combat?
I take it you are unfamiliar with Gym-kata.
Keep firing Assholes!
Blackout is always right
The most effective martial art ever invented as long as you are near a pommel horse, or some dangling rings, or some uneven bars.
You put a pommel horse in the middle of the cage and Kurt Thomas is kicking Brock’s and Fedor’s asses all day long.
Lolled so goddam hard
Sure glad Lesnar got his shit straightened out.
by judonerd on Mar 4, 2010 12:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It was used as a training method for cavalry to practice the “art” of remounting their horse in “combat”. Thus a martial art.
Then? Maybe so. Now – absolutely not. I doubt all those stupid spins and flips were actually a part of their training. It’s totally divorced any authentic “martial” aspect, so it doesn’t count. I hate all gymnastics that aren’t in a blooper reel.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 3, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Unlike quarterstaff boxing isn't effective?
Then I would suggest getting in a fight with a boxer and see how that coma works out for you.
"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"
by Fake Emcee on Mar 4, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Where did I say that boxing wasn’t effective? It’s a good general self-defense martial art.
I just said that staff fighting is more effective. Longer reach, train to hit all parts of the body, etc.
New Orleans Saints - 2010 Super Bowl Champions. Unbelievable. Who Dat.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 5, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
I’m gonna go to work tomorrow and call my boss a ho, apparently this gets you higher pay. Wish me luck!
by ufc4 on Mar 3, 2010 10:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget
bring your posse to repeat everything you say in the background, this would be a crucial mistake.
"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"
You know after thinking about it I have the perfect fight to see exactly what Toney has for his first fight you book him against Antoni Hardonk. Hardonk is not highly ranked but he has been in the UFC for awhile and scored a couple of wins. He is also a very dangerous striker if Toney has anything left it’s a fight that he can win and if he doesn’t then he got destroyed by a middle of the pack UFC HW.
Legkicks :)
Itd be beautiful to watch someone who believes in boxing so much encounter Muay Thai
Google Ron Paul!
No...Not JDS...
IF they made Fedor fight JDS…
It woudl be throwing fedor to the WOLF…
Junior is probably the ONLY HW in the world that has a decent chance against Brock…
I would like to see Junior kick Box Badr Hari…Especially now that Badr Hari is eating the same
HORSE MEAT that Alistair is!!!
No one can deny that Toney is a legit boxer, and boxing is a big part of MMA.
If there was a somewhat over the hill highly regarded wrestler or former BJJ Champ wanting to get into MMA would we be acting the same way?
Toney should get put on his back and pounded out. Just like Ray Mercer should have. Don’t underestimate Toney. He’s not going to be the champ anytime soon but he’s a legit fighter.
If there was a somewhat over the hill highly regarded wrestler or former BJJ Champ wanting to get into MMA would we be acting the same way?
That depends, would he be saying shit like this?
"They talking about ground game? That don’t mean nothing to me dog. Number one, I ain’t going to allow none of them boys to lay on top of me like a lil’ fag, you know what I’m saying? I ain’t going to the ground; that ain’t happening."
Cuz if so, then yes.
by ufc4 on Mar 3, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I'd love to hear some grappler say something like
“I’m not going to stand and throw sissy punches, puches is fo’ gayz and shit, I mean why he be all trying to touch my face?”
by ChillMike on Mar 3, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And Chael said he doesn’t let another man lay in his guard, obviously Toney can’t be completely retarded and recognizes the fact he would have to go through the proper measures for preventing himself from being taken down and if he does learn a way to at least get back up.
"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"
The big story that everyone is missing is that Dana can understand what the fuck Toney is saying.
Keep firing Assholes!
Blackout is always right
by Ubernoober on Mar 3, 2010 10:51 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
So much F bombs between the two of them it’s WWII all over again.
"You hit too hard, too hard, too hard..."
by spectaa on Mar 3, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
translator's are easily aquired
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Mar 4, 2010 5:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“These are my grapes, not your grapes. Your grapes are at the store”
Kimbo wants to take your caterpiller and do bad things to it.
xD
aah the good old days of renting CKY fron online stores and never returning them
god i hate scotland sometimes ._.
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Mar 4, 2010 6:03 AM EST up reply actions
they speak the same language
and by that I don’t mean English
Don’t let anger get in the way of comprehension
Kimbo vs Mitrione is no longer listed on the UFC site for UFC 113
I don’t know if its been said. I didn’t read all 66 responses.
yep
They announced it at 110 and its been there since then
I doubt it has anything to do with TOney..
If they’re changing it, it’s probably cause they’ll use it to counter Strikeforce/CBS
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 3, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Muuhh bbbhhooouuurrrrmmmnnn bubu provolone naormon bewreommnnaann ball peen hammer.
-James Toney
Keep firing Assholes!
Blackout is always right
by Ubernoober on Mar 3, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Dana, who confirmed that Toney will still be allowed to box…
This is interesting. Maybe there’s room for other guys to do more ADCC, Sambo (wink), etc…
I think grappling tourneys are allowed for Zuffa guys.
and Sambo was an exception already for Fedor.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 3, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
I believe you are correct. GSP was planning on competing at ADCC this year until he got hurt in the fight with Alves.
I thought Dana blocked Nate and Maia from competing. There were rumors Urijah was going to as well and then he didn’t, so that could have been Zuffa.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
Demian was not barred from it.
He had just come off a fight and didn’t feel he had time to prepare for ADCC appropriately. And Urijah was announced as “invited” but that was it. ADCC loves announcing a roster of dudes they invited, not the guys that accepted the invite.
And as Anton just said, a WEC fighter was in ADCC this year. SoCal native Rani Yahya if I’m not mistaken.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Well thank you guys for the clarification. Like I said, I wasn’t sure.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
No worries
glad to bring something useful to the discussion for a change.
And to add, I’m pretty sure that the fighters need to get permission from their promoters to compete, be it Reed Harris or Dana White. The stories I’ve heard are that for grappling tourneys like ADCC, it’s not too tough to get the go-ahead.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
randyyyy
Randy loves fighting cans! haahha!
another steroid user
Toney has been busted twice for steroids. I won’t be tuning in to watch Toney.
But you tuned in for a post ;)
So there has to be some interest hehehe
Anyone that says they aren’t interested in a freak show has some kind of interest in it. Does it belong in what most would agree is MMA’s top flight is up for debate.
This dude is crazy.
Says he won’t watch Vitor, Barnett, Marquardt, Sherk, Royce, Sylvia, Monson, Randleman Cole Province, Bonnar, Leben, Baroni, Franca, Hallman, or Bigfoot. Because they are “cheaters” and don’t deserve anything, apparently.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Put yourself in the shoes of the opponents who lost to the steroid users. I imagine you don’t like being cheated out of money and opportunities at your job.
Oh, you mean the fights that got overturned?
Or, how about the fact that out of 29 busts in MMA history, the dirty party lost 19 of those fights? So, steroid users lose 65% of the time. Cheaters with an unfair advantage!
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
what about the time you said
I see a bunch of steroid users in the UFC also. It obvious when you look at Lesnar, Carwin, Cyborg, Manhoef, Duffee, etc. Clearly testing needs to be addressed because a lot of fighters are still getting away with it.
that was my favorite comment of the week.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 4, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Are you happy with the "visual test"?
Because Josh “The Baby Fat Assassin” Barnett disagrees with it’s validity.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
dude, hide your abs,
you don’t want to be labeled as a cheat do you?
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 4, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Dude!
I’m sitting shirtless after abs/shoulders workout, so thanks to water swelling, it does look like I actually have abs. Are you hacking my webcam?
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
No, but your feed is going all over chat roulette.
wait… I may or may have not seen a guy’s dick….. Yup, based on that, he’s probably on steroids too..
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 4, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
Hey Ant,
It would be that his dick looks bigger because his nuts are so small…testes produce testosterone…If you are getting testosterone injected into your body, your body no longer needs to produce it…
Oh, I heard that Overreem doesnt even need to wear a cup…
I never said visual tests are the way to tell if someone is on steroids but there are some guys I look at and say yea he is on the juice. That is my opinion. As a fan I can tune in and choose to watch who I want.
And as another human being
I can call you an irrational lunatic. The difference is that your opinion is invariably tied to your lunacy, while professional athletes are in ridiculously good shape regardless of ’roid usage.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
by pdl on Mar 4, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That is your opinion, and your opinion fails several tests of logic, reasonability, grounding, and basic sensibility. In short, you have an opinion, you are allowed to have an opinion, and your opinion makes you look pretty thick.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Mar 4, 2010 8:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by the by
Boxing people tell me that he’ll probably fight at 205, our light heavy. He’s a heavyweight in boxing sure, but sure as hell not a big one, he’s monson sized.
by Patrick John McGreevy on Mar 4, 2010 1:33 AM EST reply actions
Method to Dana's madness,,,,,,,,,
Look people……. Dana let that BIG mouth douchebag into the UFC for a reason. To teach that fat bastard a lesson!! Toney’s been talking alot of trash on the net making video blogs calling out Dana and saying he’s scared to let him in the UFC. Ok Toney…….Dana has granted your wish now the pain shall begin for you because Dana is going to match you up with real fighters. Let’s see there’s Brock , Lidell, Couture, I even dare to say Ortiz. and I don’t like Ortiz because he sucks. But he can beat Toney. I can’t wait to see the after fight interviews with toney when he loses every fight in his short UFC career. Toney will be humbled by the time he is fired by DANA!! Can’t wait!!
So you can jump to the conclusion I am “lunatic” without knowing me??? Yea you make a lot of sense. lol
we know as much as we need to formulate a solid opinion.
by sadface on Mar 4, 2010 2:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
so does replying half way down the page
with no tagged in qoutes to show what on earth you are talkin about..
but nit picking would be stupid >.>
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Mar 4, 2010 5:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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