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UFC 111 $65,000 bonuses:

Knockout of the Night: Shane Carwin
Submission of the Night: Kurt Pellegrino
Fight of the Night: Rodney Wallace and Jared Hamman

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Is this Carwin’s first knockout of the night bonus?

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by Noah'sArk on Mar 28, 2010 2:00 AM EDT reply actions  

That is correct

But a fact that people forget is this was only Shane’s 4th UFC fight.

by bigdmmafan on Mar 28, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

bocek/miller was the rightful FOTN winner

also just read on junkie that palhares got a 90 day suspension from the commission, for not releasing the submission. didn’t realize they had the ability to punish fighters for that. though 90 days in a state he’ll probably not fight in again, is sort of meaningless

by woooburn on Mar 28, 2010 2:02 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah but Babalu also was happy that he did it

During his post-fight interview, Sobral told UFC color analyst Joe Rogan that he was aware that Heath had tapped, but “he (Heath) has to learn respect. He deserved that. He called me ‘motherfucker’.”3 In his dressing room after the fight, Sobral spoke to Las Vegas Journal-Review columnist Ed Graney. Sobral then mocked the crowd for booing him, saying “The crowd didn’t like it? Who cares? At least they had a reaction.”3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renato_Sobral

by bigdmmafan on Mar 28, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remember Babalu

After UFC 74 when he held the choke too long the NSAC fined him 25k of his 50k purse

by bigdmmafan on Mar 28, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure suspension applies throughout the Continental US.

by cyph on Mar 28, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh…I didn’t even think he held it that long. What a rip.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 28, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was pretty long after the tap.

by ufc4 on Mar 28, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was an extra 5 seconds (by Rogan's count) of a tree stump trying to twist off Drwal's foot.

Realistically, it’s not like he’ll be fighting again in 90 days, so he’s not suspended from anything. It’s more to show that you should let up if your opponent is screaming in agony. A heel hook is easy to overcrank & cause major damage.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 28, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe, counting to four, at a much faster clip than a second, in slow motion, is five seconds?

He probably should have released immediately, but it was much closer to two seconds.

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by Charles Awad on Mar 28, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough – I could easily have misunderstood (bar was noisy). I still think he should have released such a dangerous submission right upon tapping. It’s too easy to wreck an ankle.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 28, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is less Palhares’ fault and more the referees fault for being out of position. You fight until the ref pulls you off.

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by Earl Montclair on Mar 28, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

I think that theory applies to strikes, but not subs.

There’s no official rule, but I think if a guy’s tapping, and especially if it’s a dangerous submission like a heel hook, you let go immediately, regardless of what the ref’s doing. The idea is that, unless it’s a sub that was locked on in a flash, the ref should be in position waiting to see if there’s a tap.

by Scott Haber on Mar 28, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can see that. Good talk.

"My only hope is that the Big Lebowski kills me before the Germans cut my dick off."

by Earl Montclair on Mar 28, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was the extra torque he gave it when the ref came over. I mean he obviously had it locked up. He could have slowly turned it to get the tap.

I guess I can see it from Palhares view too though. He wants to end the fight and if he tries to torque it slowly he might have escaped. I think he was just caught up in the moment. Which is kind of a shame because it IS fighting, shit happens.

by HappyLittleTreez on Mar 28, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Letting go of the submission before the ref pulls you off runs the risk of a miscommunication and throwing away a win that should have been yours. With that being said, I think Palhares could have let go way sooner

by Drizzy on Mar 28, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Hamman/Wallace fight was terrible. Amateur hour.

by D.B.Cooper on Mar 28, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

man Rodney Wallace and Jared Hamman.. Dammm those two sure went at it for lhw’s . I was surprised they had the gas in the tank to keep scrambling in the third.

by beerdo on Mar 28, 2010 2:04 AM EDT reply actions  

That was a sick fight… they both looked out on their feet.

by bleve_ on Mar 28, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

two guys bumbling around in the cage making embarrassing technical mistakes all fight. But hey, the fans want to see ppl swingin’ for the fences… FOTN yee haw!

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by Benicio on Mar 28, 2010 4:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s how I felt. I thought Miller/Bocek was the better fight, atleast technically.

by HappyLittleTreez on Mar 28, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love how this accurately communicates exactly how you feel. What an awesome image.

by HarmlessNinja on Mar 29, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t much care for the Hamman/Wallace fight, but it was actually back and forth as opposed to pretty much every other fight on the card, and the lesser paid dudes earn themselves some nice green.

Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.

I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.

by Sam Cupitt on Mar 28, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually, on reflection, what the crap am I talking aboot? Damn Hamman/Wallace to hell, the fight FOTN should have gone to Miller/Bocek.

Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.

I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.

by Sam Cupitt on Mar 28, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Indeed.

I did not care for Hamman/Wallace. It is nice to see undercard guys get paid, but that was such a sloppy display.

by JRN on Mar 28, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

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