Jon Jones and Junior dos Santos Confirm Their High Status at UFC on Versus
Going into the UFC on Versus, two of the UFC's fastest rising young stars faced a pair of still-formidable veterans who had seen better days but some questioned if Jon Jones and Junior Dos Santos were for real. Brandon Vera and Gabriel Gonzaga were expected to present formidable tests. Both Jones and Dos Santos proved themselves apt pupils of mixed martial arts and passed their exams with flying colors.
Dos Santos, a 25 year old Brazilian, has officially set the UFC heavyweight division on notice that a fearsome set of boxing skills is loose in their midst. He blasted the much bigger Gonzaga with repeated shots to the body, escaped a take down attempt and then caught Gonzaga flush with a blasting left hand as Gonzaga fired a leg kick and dropped his guard.
A potential number one contender's match against Cain Velasquez could be in "Cigano" dos Santos' future. Frank Mir and Shane Carwin will fight for the interim heavyweight belt at UFC 111 and then face champion Brock Lesnar in a title unification bout. A match between dos Santos, the protege of former UFC and PRIDE champ Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, and Velasquez, the man who brutally beat down Nogueira at UFC 110, seems like a natural fight to be added to the UFC 116 card featuring Lesnar vs Mir/Carwin.
As for Jon Jones, the 22 year old is still too green for title contention, and the UFC light heavyweight division is amazingly packed. He still has a very tall ladder to climb to get near Lyoto Machida's title when fighters such as Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, Rashad Evans, Anderson Silva and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira are all vying for a shot.
The opponents I'd most like to see Jones face aren't in the UFC unfortunately. Strikeforce's light heavyweight champ Gegard Mousasi and his next challenger Muhammad "King Mo" Lawal are much more appropriate challenges for the fast-rising Jones. Mousasi has certainly faced by far the most formidable opposition, but he, Lawal and Jones are all incredibly athletic and much less experienced than most of the top contenders in the UFC's 205lb class.
I'd personally like to see Jones face a Thiago Silva or Luis Cane next. That fight, if he wins it, should be Jones' last against an opponent coming off a loss for a long time.
The rest of the main UFC on Versus 1 card didn't really have much significance. Most fans expected Cheick Kongo to show Paul Buentello by just how much the UFC's heavyweight division has improved since the "Head Hunter" left the promotion in 2006. Sakara and Irvin failed to deliver the hoped for dynamite, despite being ended by a beautiful widow-maker of a punch by Sakara -- who has now won three consecutive victories in the UFC.
Making the telecast from the undercard, John "Dooms Day" Howard finished UFC debutante Daniel Roberts with a savage series of punches on the ground in what had been a very competitive match. Howard is now 4-0 in the UFC and will likely get his long-awaited shot at Anthony "Rumble" Johnson next.
In other undercard action, TUF veteran Brandon Schaub showed Chase Gormley his UFC walking papers in less than a minute. The popular Clay Guida showed a new dimension to his game, finishing Shanon Gugerty via arm triangle. Eliot Marshall looked soporific in a loss to the world's most tedious good fighter Vladimir Matyushenko.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 22, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Idk, there are some fighters i just cant get beind, regardless of what they do or what they say i just cant be a fan.
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
prob cuz hes black and super athletic and you see that this sport is going the way of football and boxing etc.
Am I interrupting the Klan meeting?
"My only hope is that the Big Lebowski kills me before the Germans cut my dick off."
by Earl Montclair on Mar 22, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s not a cool accusation at all. I’ve had a hard time getting behind Jones as well, but mostly because I don’t feel like he’s been thoroughly tested. Of course, when you factor in age, he’s doing exactly what he needs to do. I’m a fan after tonight, but you need to get out of here with that garbage.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 22, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol not being racist but people do not want to see the super athletes take over this sport. It’s just the truth.
"prob cuz hes black and super athletic"
so you explained half of it……
"My only hope is that the Big Lebowski kills me before the Germans cut my dick off."
by Earl Montclair on Mar 22, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Super athletes always have been taking over sports. Thats what the hell happens in sports, and guess what, the two that come to mind right away…
Brock Lesnar, and GSP.
Both white.
Don’t accuse someone of something they didn’t even hint at.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 22, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
That's completely accusing him of being racist.
Saying mma is #1 doesn’t like Jones because he’s black and it’s “going the way of football & boxing” (meaning dominated by black athletes) is directly accusing him of being a racist.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 22, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
um no, it has nothing to do with that. and also, dont say stuff like that, its just dumb.
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
Ever heard about Paquiao or the Klitchkos?
What about Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks? Joe Mauer, David Wright and Ichiro don’t come from Bed-Stuy… (maybe that doesn’t work, I hear they’ve changed Bed-Stuy but its the best I got.)
I know a lot of ppl with that sentiment, but I think it’s totally fallible
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Mar 22, 2010 12:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It is plausible though. Just not always 100 percent.
I am not touching the quarterback situation Lol. That is asking for some serious trouble . Baseball is dominated by Hispanics who play baseball their entire lives. Any race who spends majority of their time playing one sport will usually be the best.
Brazilian are the best BJJ guys right? Majority of good wrestlers are midwest white guys etc
This is a really, really dumb line of reasoning you’re following here. I hope you realize that.
by George Lucas on Mar 22, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think realization is his strong suit.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Monte Fisto on Mar 22, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe that’s a cultural or social element, not a race one. You’re just digging yourself deeper.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 22, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I've heard of Pacquiao and the Klitschko's
But I don’t know about the guys you’re talking about.
by ufc4 on Mar 22, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"Sakara -- who has now won his first ever consecutive victories in a four year UFC career."
Sakara’s on a 3 fight win streak
i'd be fine bringing jones along slowly
he’s becoming a star and will increasingly draw viewers. put him in another spike/versus main event. against cane, matyushenko, ortiz, maybe even someone a notch lower. i think the experience is really good for him right now, and in 2011 a title shot if he’s still winning.
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I think he'd be a favorite against Tito, Franklin, Liddell, Griffin or Couture
But a win over a formoer champ would look really good on his resume.
I like the idea of Cain vs JDS
in part because it might be only the first in a long series of fights.
The only problem is that I feel that both Cain and Dos Santos are actually better than Mir and Carwin. I know Carwin has that ridiculous knock-out power, but both he and Mir don’t seem like they could match the speed of JDS or Cain.
Especially if Mir wins against Carwin—Mir and Lesnar already fought twice. If Carwin beats Mir, that seems different. I’d be more interested to see Carwin fight Lesnar than see Mir/Lesnar III.
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Mar 22, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions
i’m not thrilled about lesnar/mir 3 either, but i think it’s the best outcome for bringing interest in the sport.
they can sell it as the rubber match, and it will do enormous numbers. cain vs dos santos as the co-main event to set up the next title shot. and then if either cain or JDS wins convincingly, you’ve got another megashow a few months later.
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don’t get me wrong i’ll order up that ppv no problem. to darkbloom’s point, though, i think both cain and JDS have better chances against lesnar.
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I hear ya. I think JDS might get mauled. Why do I say might? Because we haven’t seen any freaking wrestlers against this guy. You know they won’t waste Cain JDS yet so we wont see.
Cain Brock could be very interesting. Brock does have at least 40 lbs though. Don;t see that going good for Cain.
Yeah. 40 lbs ia big deal especially against an elite wrestler.
Until JDS beats a wrestler (Cain / Carwin / Lesnar) I can’t say I like his chances in a title match. boxing doesn’t matter much from your back. Until I’ve seen him handle that, I have to beleive Cain or the winner of Carwin / Mir has the best shot.
Carwin is a big wrestler and should have a chance if he has any takedown defense and if Mir beat Carwin, he will have beaten a huge wrestler and will be fully deserving of the title shot.
Howard has won 4 in a row in the UFC...
by Steven T. Kelliher on Mar 22, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions
"World`s most tedious good fighter?"
Jon Fitch would like to have a few words and a fifteen minute cuddling session with you, sir.
by inadvertentgroinstrike on Mar 22, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
also
Since they are both coming off victories I’d like to see Kongo vs Duffee. Kongo and Gonzaga are clearly only gate-keepers now, not contenders. So let’s see if Duffee can get past his first gate-keeper.
Gonzaga vs. Pat Barry might be a good fight. It would be a good match to see if Barry has learned anything from his loss to Hague.
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Mar 22, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
Also
Cigano is 26, no?
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
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says his birthday is 9-12-84, that makes him 25 on my calendar.
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Huh
The UFC messed it up, then. He was definitely 26 on the TALE OF THE TAPE
by Tedd Welch on Mar 22, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Seeing these young fighters get into the top rankings and into title contention really catches me off guard at times. A young fighter beating a veteran is nothing new, but I still get taken aback when I see it. Velasquez blasting Nogueira, Jones beating Vera, JDS beating Gonzaga, Aldo beating Brown, and so on in dominant fashion is initially difficult for me to get used to. The thing is that on paper, many of these fights look like they can go either way, but when the fight actually happens, then it is just one-sided in favor of the younger and hungrier fighter. It is nothing new in any sport, but it is still incredible for me to see.
the other thing
I’ve learned recently is how true it is that…
OK, basically, we all know what Big Nog can do. We know what someone like Couture can do. We basically know what Gonzaga can do. But besides the fact that they are improving by leaps and bounds, we don’t really know what Cain, Aldo, JDS, etc., can do. There just haven’t been enough fights yet.
They might be even better than anybody thinks, or they might have massive holes in their game that no one has exposed yet.
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Mar 22, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
"World`s most tedious good fighter?"
Jon Fitch would like to have a few words and a fifteen minute cuddling session with you, sir.
by inadvertentgroinstrike on Mar 22, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
Oooooooh
I like that idea.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 22, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m on board with that. He’s ready, and though I love the Nogs, I’d pick Jon to beat either.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 22, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
And by either, I mean Forrest and Minotoro! I don’t know about Big Nog, although I’d like to see that one too:)
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 22, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Then I hope Forrest loses to Nog
I just can’t take another Forrest beatdown.. Hurts so much. Yes I have a mancrush on Forrest.
soporific? I learned something today. Thanks for the new word!
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Etymology: probably from French soporifique, from Latin sopor deep sleep; akin to Latin somnus sleep — more at somnolent
Date: 1665
1 a : causing or tending to cause sleep b : tending to dull awareness or alertness
2 : of, relating to, or marked by sleepiness or lethargy
I think Gabriel knew his fate the second he couldn’t secure that takedown.
"My only hope is that the Big Lebowski kills me before the Germans cut my dick off."
by Earl Montclair on Mar 22, 2010 12:28 AM EDT reply actions
Sad, but true. I hate seeing Gonzaga not live up to his potential.
I expected JDS to win, but I though Gonzaga would do a little more.
not sure it was the failed takedown as much as feeling JDS’s power standing. as soon as JDS starts hitting anyone, they just want to get the hell out of there. i thought it was after a few exchanges, rather than the takedown attempt, that gonzaga looked different.
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soon as JDS starts hitting anyone, they just want to get the hell out of there
Very true. You can see it take the wind out of fighters sails. Especially in this and the Crop Cop fights (Maybe the Yvel fight too). The others didn’t really have time to think about it…
I always maintained GG is a week fighter mentally.
He wilted against Couture, he wilted when Werdum trapped a kick, and now he wilted when he couldn’t bully JDS.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 22, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’re not the only one to say it; he’s visibly faded in the past when he encounters adversity.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
I've said that too and lots of people disagreed with me.
I called it a qustionable chin, because when someone hits it his often collapses (physically or mantally).
I’ve disagreed with you in the past about Gabe, but I think you may be right. He just doesn’t show up in big fights.
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I don’t think Anderson has a chance against Jones. Machida maybe Silva def not. LHW is really really fucked. There is no answer for this guy. Perhaps Nog JJ may be able to neutralize but I doubt it.
We are talking about an 84.5 reach. His elbow is like me punching. WTF
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by Tonley on Mar 22, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
They walk around at about the same weight... and Jones is much taller.
It is mind boggling that Rumble fights at WW
gonna disagree with mousasi fighting better competition
his best wins are manhoef babalu souza and sokoudjou
bones best are hammil obrien bonnar and now vera
i like jones wins better we’ve just seen more of mousasi then we’ve seen of jones
maybe, though we’ve seen mousasi in all kinds of situations… on his back, wrestling, long fights, short fights, all kinds of different opponents. in total i think mousasi’s opposition has been more impressive.
talk about an awesome dream fight though. wow. mousasi is sooo good. jones is sooo freakish. i can’t pick a winner.
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yea we've only really seen bones do a few thing
although he has done them incredibly fuckin well mousasi seems like he has the more complete game and i truly would have no idea who to pick in that fight
You do realize that in a likelihood what the fight would be right?
People like to value all of this skillsets of each fighter. Now I know the truth about Jones.
Every fight Jones will be in will be with him in top control. Um he has the biggest by far advantage in the guard position ever.
When he’s done he will make Tito’s GNP look like a plaything.
Moussasi will be forced to fight off his back. I just don’t see it Mousassi’s JJ being good enough for those long arms
Anyone else think AA vs JDS would be one of the best skill wise striking affairs ever for a HW division?
Until Arlovski falls face-first onto the mat about two minutes in
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 22, 2010 1:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah but he will still have to watch out for the SPINEBUSTER!

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by Earl Montclair on Mar 22, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Big question...
How long will Jones make LHW? If someone can find his tweet or whatever it was, before he cut much weight, he was at 6% body fat…and he’s just gonna keep expanding. I think he’s got at MOST 2 years before he’s missing weight. We haven’t seen him pushed hard enough to see if the cut even has an effect on him now.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 22, 2010 12:54 AM EDT reply actions
that is a good question. He really doesn;’t even look filled out yet. He should only get bigger.
I can see him being 235 240 easy in a couple of years. I think he’s one of the few that can dominate LHW and HW as well.
His advanatges at LHW are tremendous at HW they are still big but hes better off at LHW as long as he can make it.
Don’t say he can dominate heavy and light heavyweight……We just saw what happened to the last guy that was supposed to do that.
"My only hope is that the Big Lebowski kills me before the Germans cut my dick off."
by Earl Montclair on Mar 22, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I think the age of smaller heavyweights is over, and Jones will lose a lot of his edge over opponents when he moves up in weight.
He needs to work his ass off while he can to be prepared, because if he wants to contend with Lesnar, Mir, or any of the big boys…he’s gonna need to eat his wheaties and be ready to use that wrestling of his in reverse.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 22, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he is. I think Carwin or Brock would be able to pin him down and pound him out, but JDS has been a big boy for a long time. Jones would just be filling out and having to put on some muscle over time…different situation.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 22, 2010 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions
JDS is a solid 240 at least, he isn’t a 250 pound roy nelson with a 50 pound gut.
by Dropkick434 on Mar 22, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
So is Cain. Just because Brock is huge doesn’t mean the entire division has to be. Brock hasn’t even faced off against anybody in the next generation yet either. Any of these heavys could be the next big thing.
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forrest has been cutting huge amounts of weight for a long time
jones is a wrestler too hes been doing it for years it doesnt look like hes had any trouble and he looks pretty good at the weigh ins unlike rumble johnson or some of the fighters who really have trouble
Rumble's gonna merk Howard
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 22, 2010 1:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
How did Howrd duck him? The match was set and Johnson pulled out.
He said “I would be crazy to fight Howard at less than 100%”
ufc
The UFC knows Vera ALWAYS comes up short. That’s how they build up a name like Jones..
The last fight he finished with a name was back in 2006 with a fat Frank Mir.
.the same UFC dance as always. They carefully set up fights to build up who they want. That’s why the UFC will never have tournaments. They loose some control
I’d love to see JDS vs Cain, but there is also part of me that thinks UFC will keep them away from each other so that they can keep legit contenders lined up for Lesnar. That could leave us with Cain waiting on his shot, and JDS fighting the Carwin/Mir loser. I agree with a few of the guys above in that I really would rather see Lesnar’s next fight against either Cain or JDS than Mir. I am really hoping Carwin takes that fight.
In my opinion Jon Jones is ready for anyone right now. When has Brandon Vera been dominated like that? I’m not saying he has earned a title shot, but I would have no problem seeing him fight Rampage, or Lil Nog next. The author is right though, a fight with Mousasi would be awesome.
If it happens, I think Cain wins this fight based on takedowns and top control.
JDS gets time to work his ground game a little more and comes back stronger.
Mousasi [...], Lawal and Jones are all incredibly athletic and much less experienced than most of the top contenders in the UFC's 205lb class.
Dude, Mousasi is 28-2-1.
Machida (16-0), Evans (14-1-1), Shogun (18-4), Silva (25-4), Nogueira (18-3)
Only Rampage (30-7) has fought more…
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