Quote of the Day: Jon Jones Talks Fickle UFC Fans
by Kid Nate on Mar 20, 2010 3:58 PM EDT
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"After (the Thales Leites) fight people talked so much trash about (Anderson Silva)," Jones says. "About how he's not that good, how he doesn't finish fights, and I'm thinking, oh my God, there's all these forums talking about how great is before this, but now since he doesn't knock the guy out he's horrible and he sucks? That was a first-hand experience of how brutal fans can be."
Jon Jones talking to Ben Fowlkes about the fickleness of the fans.
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He's just getting ready for his own hype train to be derailed.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
He absolutely is.
But I’m bored and feel like talking shit, but don’t have a Twitter like Koscheck.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
by pdl on Mar 20, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
On the internet, the vocal majority isn't a REAL majority.
Most of the people with loud mouths on the internet are pretty quite in real life. They’d never have the balls to say what they write to anyone’s face.
The hardcore fans and people who follow MMA knows what Anderson is really capable of. We could see that fight for what it was. We knew the implications behind the way Anderson reacted to Thiago’s tactics. The people who were saying “Anderson sucks” are just dumb asses, and are in a very small, yet vocal minority.
Note to Jon Jones:
Do not pay ANY attention to what retards like me say over the internet.
Trust me on this.
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Mar 20, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Haha so he should trust that what you just said cannot be trusted?
I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
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by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 21, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
he's right
it was kinda sad and embarassing… I wonder if it was just americans
by cagefightonacid on Mar 20, 2010 4:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
not a chance.
we have a thing in Australia called the ‘tall poppy syndrome’. where we actually put down people, teams, etc when they are preforming too well. when they fail (and they always do) we can say: i told you so…
by Ronnie Liddle on Mar 20, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
People wanted destruction
Instead we got turtle lietes. Can’t blame anderson for that performance
"So I put 2 and 2 together and decided that your pissing me off" "Here. Its a fruit roll up. I was gonna make you a casserole for your loss but uh... I didnt"
"So its sorta like that movie the predator, except for hunting people hes takin a crap" - Carl from ATHF
by II SMASH II on Mar 20, 2010 4:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
true
i think another good example is forrest’s rise and fall from grace. even after impressive wins over rampage and shogun, he got a ton of shit after the silva fight.
but to be fair to us, we get to see a lot of these guys fight only 2-3 times a year. its kind of hard not to be judgemental over one of those performances
To be fair,
that WASNT a first hand experience jonny, if you saw it happen to silva
he was referring to having seen that fight
from cage side. He is correct to say that he saw the crowd’s reaction first hand.
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Why even pay attention
The crowd that bad mouths fighters are the same fellas that spend all evening in their momma’s basement thumbing through comic books and posing their Star Wars action figures. It amazes me how a guy who couldn’t bust a grape will bad mouth a warrior. Thank God most folks around here respect these fighters for what they do.
by KING FEDOR on Mar 20, 2010 5:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
heyyyyyy
… whats your problem with comics…???
by iamtheoriginalchris on Mar 20, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I second this
Be like water..
by theredoctober on Mar 20, 2010 7:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh no
There’s no meatheads in the crowd with a few too many steroids flowing through them yelling “FIGHT LIKE A MAN YOU F**” at all. Just nerds, right?
No.
by Patrick John McGreevy on Mar 20, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
And
These guys aren’t fucking warriors. They’re athletes, calling themselves warriors is just self gratifying bullshit. A fucking Marine? That’s a warrior, not a professional athlete.
by Patrick John McGreevy on Mar 20, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you are reading into it a little too much. If this was the Ultimate Accounting Championship and they were being dubbed “warriors” that would be one thing.
"My only hope is that the Big Lebowski kills me before the Germans cut my dick off."
by Earl Montclair on Mar 20, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn you Jon Jones and all your logic and accurate insight!
What he is saying is so synonymous with our culture though. We are all so quick to point and laugh and say “You suck now!” once someone shows a chink in their armor.
"My only hope is that the Big Lebowski kills me before the Germans cut my dick off."
If anybody knows this its SILKY JOHNSON.
I like your coat. Is that made out of Buck Nasty’s momma’s pubic hair?
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
Well, it was a pretty bad fight, and it was pretty frustrating watching a wrecking machine like Anderson muck around the way he did, when his ability to finish dudes off has absolutely no equal in the history of the sport. So yeah, it sucked, he was terrible that fight. A bunch of fans that paid hundreds of dollars to watch fighters do what they do, and get that particular show would’ve been disappointing. I was disappointed too. But I hardly heard every fan claiming that he sucked. Even casual fans weren’t saying that, most people were just saying that the fight sucked (it did) and it was certainly the worst Anderson that we’d ever seen (it was). Worthy of a booing, and it hardly means that the fans are fickle. But I might be missing something because I don’t go to other forums very often.
Sure there are a lot of bloodlusty meathead fans in the sport, but that’s hardly headline news is it?
but i still don't get that
anderson dominated every single second of that fight. he made a fighter who earned a title shot look like a child who’d wandered into the octagon. how was anderson terrible? how was it the worst anderson we’ve ever seen?
how can you look at the lutter fight where anderson actually got put into a terrible position and ate some real shots, then look at the leites fight and say anderson was was terrible? was he ever in danger? no. he fought a perfect fight and won without a scratch, he’s had way worse performances, he just saved them with a grand comeback. he didn’t need one against leites.
Terrible because it was boring. Perfect? Naw, but that depends on the eye of the beholder. Maybe for him because he was never in trouble, but it seemed like he had several chances to finish a guy that was completely broken and useless, and he never did. He danced around and toyed with him all the while refusing to end the fight. It was pure torture to watch, and I’m not one of those fans that boos a good grappling match either. When I see that match though, it’s pretty painfully obvious that Anderson was sending a message to Dana, “give me big fights. Enough of these dudes that don’t belong in the ring with me”.
i think the chonan fight was in his mind. just because he was dominating leites like he was doesn’t mean that trend would continue when anderson got in leites’ guard. he followed a game plan and won, he was then trashed as people who stick to specific gameplans often are.
It’s possible that he was thinking of Chonan but I doubt it. The 4th and 5th rounds Leites was done. He wasn’t even really trying to get takedowns anymore. He was completely broken and useless. It was sad and painful to watch how pitiful he was.
Anderson, on the other hand, is the legend of legends when it comes to moving in for the kill and destroying his opponent as soon as he smells a little blood. It’s painfully obvious to me what he was doing, but I know that means nothing to someone else and I understand how subjective this is.
You see this in all sports.
And I think he is simplifying things with Silva. I thought the Leites fight was crap. Certainly Leites deserves a fair amount of blame, but Anderson looked, at times, like he was content to clown around a bit. Do I think it meant he sucked? No, I think criticism was warrented. Folks paid a lot of money for that fight.
And it was not simply fan, plenty of writers were very critical as well.
From Bloody Elbow:
I’m honestly shocked anyone is defending the absolute deliberate and unprofessional performance turned in last night by UFC Middleweight champion Anderson Silva. What the alleged pound-for-pound king offered fans was the equivalent of doing one’s job just enough to not get fired. I felt like I was watching the worst cliche of labor union work ethic where employees take advantage of every contractual reprieve from performing the responsibilities of their job just to skate through until quitting time saves them.
You can also read BE’s commentary of the card and it is pretty critical of
Silva.
So again, let us not make it out that it was boorish fans venting at Silva. How many really said he sucked? Most of the critics, fans and writers alike, ripped on his performance.
I don't think Jones
is saying it was a great fight — he’s just saying the fans quickly turned on Silva.
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And I am saying that it was not just fans that were critical. And saying they turned on him is not totally accurate. How many said he sucked? Many were very critical of what was generally considered to be a bad fight with bad performances by both.
Isn’t it safe to say that most, if not all writers are also fans?
"My only hope is that the Big Lebowski kills me before the Germans cut my dick off."
by Earl Montclair on Mar 20, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he’s totally simplifying it. Saying that fight sucked and Anderson was terrible is not fickle. The fight was universally panned. I consider myself a well-informed fan of MMA, I enjoy the subtleties, the grappling, etc. That fight was crap and Anderson deserved to be criticized. And as I mentioned above, people weren’t so much as calling Anderson a suck, but complaining about a performance that was obviously calculated to send Dana the message: “I want bigger fights or you and the fans will pay”.
by Dooda on Mar 21, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think people were saying he sucked...
They were saying he turned into a douchebag. Looking back, I think it was just shock over the idea that Anderson didn’t know how to finish an opponent that was unwilling to fight.
That was the equivalent of Superman getting a bloody nose, people didn’t know what to make of it. Anderson Silva, the destroyer of worlds, couldn’t finish a mid-level opponent when 90% of the fight was spent on the feet.
I still have trouble wrapping my head around it.
I remember superman getting a bloody nose, I think in superman 2, so that’s not completely unheard of
by kanodogg on Mar 20, 2010 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but superman didn't get a bloody nose
he didn’t get touched. he dominated every second. he beat the dude so thoroughly he quit half way through a title fight and somehow this reflects poorly on anderson?
honestly, i wouldn’t risk the little bones in my hands hitting someone who’s already given up. the fact that people point to this as his worst performance instead of the times when other fighters actually managed to hurt him is silly.
see my post above dude, superman DID get a bloody nose, and from a mortal no less.. watch superman 2, supes w/o his powers in a bar gets beatup by some dude in alaska
That wasn’t Superman. That was Clark Kent.
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by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 21, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Lots of people make fun of Japanese MMA but how many of you wished the UFC had the yellow card for that fight?
My opinion is a win is a win and it doesn’t have to be pretty. But both fighters are guilty of thinking that the other fighter is responsible for fighting the way they want them to fight.
i'd honestly
have preferred it if leites had just verbally tapped in the third round. that’s essentially what he did, he just wasn’t man enough to make it official. you can put blame on both if you really want, but leites was the one trying to change the entire format of mma. fights don’t start with you in your opponents guard, they start with you both on the feet.
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