Gegard Mousasi likely to sign a seven fight deal with Strikeforce:
"I have one more fight left on my contract, but we are planning to sign a new deal," Mousasi said.
"I'm being treated very well," he said. "I feel like I'm a part of the family, so there's no reason for me to go anywhere else. I fight also in DREAM, so I don't have any desires to go anywhere."
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Aw darn, well we can still hope that the UFC out bids Strikeforce. He’d be a great addition to the shark tank.
That’s unfortunate. I think his legacy as a fighter would be better served by making a move to the UFC.
That’s peachy for Strikeforce, but since as a fan I would like see Mousasi fight Machida/Shogun/Rampage/Rashad, I really don’t care how good it is for Strikeforce.
by Worldisart on Mar 18, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good for Strikeforce. Bad for fans who want to see Mousasi fight top competition.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 18, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
What UFC fans need to Know...
Every time a fighter doesn’t sign with the ufc, its fans start to complain about how the fighter is missing out on top competition. But understand this, UFC doesn’t allow its fighters to fight outside the organisation. Mousasi signed a contract with SF that allows him to still fight on DREAM promotions. He wouldn’t get that sort contract with the ufc.
Apart from Randy Couture, it doesn’t seem as if fighters on ufc contracts get that many fights a year. Some fighters want to fight more regularly; especially if you can pick up more prize money too. MMA is not at the stage where all the fighters are making big bucks. Some fighters like the opportunity to fight more when it is possible.
Mousasi is probably making more money under his current fight strategy than his counterparts at the ufc because he’ll be fighting more than 2-3 fights annually. That’s assuming he doesn’t get hurt or suffers a loss.
More fighters should follow this multi-promotional-contract strategy because it gives you options as a fighter. If you are cut from one promotion because of a loss, at least you have another promotion to go to without having to start ‘shopping’ yourself again looking for a fight.
If ufc wants Mousasi they better cough up that cash and do it quickly, because as it stands, Mousasi is not looking desperate for a cheque (check). So if they want him, they better offer him a contract that is worth his while. if he gets past Mo (b/c Mo isn’t a walk over) and a few other fights, it will not be cheap for the ufc to sign Mousasi.
by higgledy-piggledy on Mar 19, 2010 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Its funny...
that speech is pretty legendary for Dana…but it was pretty average for stuff that went on all the time in the Army.
Good stuff.
Higgledy piggledy
You make some good points. I want to see him fight the best the UFC has. I’m tired of the whole system, I want to see the best fight the best. Until Gegard fights in the UFC there will always be a question as to how he would do. I believe Gegard is one of the best MW in the world. I understand he wants to fight LW and HW as well. In the long term, how many legit fights does he have outside the UFC? Moreover, if Gegard joins the UFC, and starts to run through the competition, he will be considered the best. Because he beat the BEST. Tell me what is a better fight. Gegard vs. Hendo or vs. Anderson Silva. Also, if you look at fighters like Koscheck and Clay Guida. They are very active fighters. I really don’t believe Gegard is worried about money. The UFC can promote and pay him better than anyone.
@Whardiek
I want to see the best fight the best too. But a lot of these promotions don’t let fighters fight outside the organisation they are signed to. So it will not always happen.
You are right, the UFC can probably pay Mousasi better than anyone out there. A fighter can also increase his value by beating everyone else out there before making the transition to the UFC. I think that way, he gets a contract that will reflect his value.
[whadiek] said “Tell me what is a better fight. Gegard vs. Hendo or vs. Anderson Silva.”
The UFC won’t give Mousasi an immediate title fight upon signing him. Hendo isn’t a walk over mind you, and that’s the same for Mo Lawal. If Mousasi gets past these two fighters then he’ll really be on fire. However, if he gets past Mo, I think he’s up to sign a new contract with SF. So this may be the time when the UFC may want to offer the guy a contract.
[whadiek] “… if you look at fighters like Koscheck and Clay Guida. They are very active fighters.”
I don’t think any UFC fighter fights more than 3 times a year. Guida & Koscheck didn’t fight more than 3 fights in 2009. You are only paid when you fight, so if your fights are limited to approx’ 3, you only get paid for the 3 fights you fight in. Mousasi has the option of fighting in future DREAM promotions. He fought approx’ 6 fights in DREAM in 2008.
You may make less per fight fighting outside the ufc, but you’ll definitely fight more frequently if you are signed to several promotions, and possibly make more money.
by higgledy-piggledy on Mar 20, 2010 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions
This is only a temporary problem. Strikeforce will fold in a year, two at the most so this is just a speed bump.
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probably right. he’s 24 and has 31 fights, never been KO’d, and most of his wins have been fast and dominant, suggesting he’s not taken a ton of damage. regardless of Strikeforce folding or not, 7 fights would hopefully take a max of 3 years, with him continuing to not sustain a ton of damage, putting him in the UFC at 27 or 28 as prepared as anyone has ever been upon their entry to the UFC….it would be awesome to see him right now, but the UFC will still be around and it will still be awesome in 3 years. he probably just wants a little more time before he signs a more strict contract, and will hopefully eventually decide the UFC is the right move.
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
Sure he will
I mean Overeem is gonna fight 4 times just this year.
by ufc4 on Mar 18, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Overeem
He is gonna fight 4 times in K-1. No way he fights 4 times in Dream Or Strikeforce. He can’t pass 4 drug tests in America.
come on
even with his reluctance to jump to the UFC, i don’t see Mousasi behaving like Overeem. He may fight a can every now and then in Dream, but he’ll usually be taking on at least halfway-respectable comp in SF
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
I guess he doesn’t wanna be a fucking fighter.
by ufc4 on Mar 18, 2010 6:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 18 recs
He’s gonna fight Lawal and probably Henderson too in the future , not easy fights that’s for sure.
by JoelMan on Mar 18, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I lol'd really hard
"On March 27th GSP is gonna have to change his name to GPS, so he knows where he is."
-Dan Hardy
even though it won't happen it's still funny
So...
Why is he not a “fucking fighter”?That’s very disrespectful of a great athletes career.
Ah…is this a Dana White-ism? I try not to listen to the guy too much these days. Sorry if I don’t get it…
All the way back to TUF 1. Pretty good motivational speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q8BeT77tVQ
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I cannot stand
ignorant, " ufc is the best an all others are garbage an shouldnt even exsist an i love dana’s balls in my mouth" comments.. MMA is MMA… just cause ufc has a ton of world class fighters doesnt mean that a fighter cannot be just as great in another organization.. its bullshit.. i love the ufc as much as the next guy but all u UFC NUTHUGGERS make me sick an give mma fans as a whole a bad name..
have u ever even been in a fight??
by MMAJUNKIE__83 on Mar 18, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
let gegard do
what he wants to do.. he is a very smart man and world class athletethat would prolly take out half the ufc champs(my opinion).. if u dont like SF or gegards career path please just stfu an dont watch it.. but trust me when i say that he probably say he wont have one boring fight.. strikeforce is doing big things.. quit bitching an just enjoy it
have u ever even been in a fight??
by MMAJUNKIE__83 on Mar 18, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
even so
those types of comments get posted everyday and they are not kidding.. im all for SF being sucsessful… i love mma… all of it
have u ever even been in a fight??
by MMAJUNKIE__83 on Mar 18, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I was kidding, so pull the stick out of your ass.
by ufc4 on Mar 18, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
"Theres only two things you need to know about me: I spin more rhymes than a lazy susan, and im innocent until my guilt is proven"
by dangerdunphy on Mar 18, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
RRRRRRRRRAAAWWWWR!!!!!!!!
sorry it must be the horsemeat
have u ever even been in a fight??
by MMAJUNKIE__83 on Mar 18, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You are the one with Dana's nuts in your mouth.
I love this. Wake up and smell the coffee. If all the fighters are in UFC, we win. Honestly, I give 2 shits about Dream and Strikeforce. Bring the best to the UFC and lets see what happens. There are only a hand full of fights Dream or Strikeforce are able to have that keep me interested. UFC have more than I have time or space to explain. I would like to see the best fight the best. UFC is the only chance we have for this. Period.
^^^cry, i hope Strikeforce keeps moving forward
by Killuminati on Mar 18, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
For me
Of course there are various reasons i think this is less than optimal, but mainly i find it disappointing because i think 7 fights of Gegard vs UFC fighters would be way better and funner to watch than 7 fights of him vs the kind of competition he’s going to find in SF or Dream.
by The Flying Gentleman on Mar 18, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, shit. Who is he going to fight at 205 for those 7 fights?
by Polyhedron on Mar 18, 2010 6:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yeah, i’m curious about that myself. other than the inevitable hendo matchup, i’m not all that familiar with strikeforce’s 205 division.
you’re not familiar with their 205 division, well, because they don’t have one.
by I Can't Feel My Face on Mar 19, 2010 4:51 AM EDT up reply actions
^ exactly my thoughts. Unless he wants to bulk up and fight at heavyweight as well
by MikeD32 on Mar 18, 2010 6:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that might be a big part of it
Seems like a good idea for him, if he isn’t completely sure whether he wants to stay at LHW or go to HW, to keep competing in Dream and SF.
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Mar 18, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially since he already fought (and beat) Sokodjou, Babalu and Manhoef.
That (should) take away three options right there.
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by Earl Montclair on Mar 18, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Rich Franklin and fighters like him should leave UFC as hes obviously not a viable contender to get the title back, he might as well make some money in strikeforce and rack up some wins.. as opposed to making some money in UFC and racking up some losses
Let me guess.
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by pdl on Mar 18, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
/wrists
"On March 27th GSP is gonna have to change his name to GPS, so he knows where he is."
-Dan Hardy
even though it won't happen it's still funny
More importantly
What happens to his stock if he loses to Mo? Loses to Hendo?
I respect that Mousasi has a long-term plan, but the risks of 7 fights in SF/Dream – fighting UFC castoffs and relative unknowns (in the US), fluke losses, injuries, etc. – to me far outweigh the benefits.
by PackMMA on Mar 18, 2010 7:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
More people can emerge you know. The current talent level is not set in stone. A new star could emerge from various ranks.
You're right...
that talent will emerge in the UFC.
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by donkeypunch on Mar 19, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure the UFC is offering significantly more than he makes with DREAM/Strikeforce. Plus he seems to enjoy working with these promotions, which goes a long way.
If he becomes an even bigger star the UFC might come in wth some silly money and he might decide to accept it then.
It might be smart of him signing with SF. When the UFC absorbs them, they will absorb this huge contract.
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by donkeypunch on Mar 19, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps Mousasi has a super secret plan inside his amazing idea brain to get in the ring with Jose Canseco and save us all.
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 18, 2010 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
He's obviously ducking Brandon Vera
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 18, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
at HW or LHW or both?
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by WeaponElDeem on Mar 19, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I want to rec this so many more times.
just 'cause you pour syrup on shit, don't make it pancakes
by imnotjohnlong on Mar 18, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is Brandon Vera will be Strikeforce after the Jones fight.
by John Nash on Mar 19, 2010 1:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
…I think he gets one more chance, because of the “Couture Controversy”. But I can absolutely see him as a Strikeforce fighter in a year.
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by WeaponElDeem on Mar 19, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Gary Goodridge!
No but his best wins are probably Hector Lombard, Jacare and Manhoef at Middleweight, Cyborg Santos and Sobral at LHW. Very respectable record for a young fighter. His best days are still ahead of him so just be patient.
People might laugh at me for this, but I still think that Soku is a respectable win. Say what you want about him, he’s dangerous and he’s the who’s who of MMA so that should figure into his less than stellar record.
People might laugh at me for this, but I still think that Soku is a respectable win
There is no shame in losing to the Super HLUK Champion of the Universe. Soko can still cause problems for a lot of LHWs. Well, for one round anyway.
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by a tommy point on Mar 19, 2010 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I would like to see him in UFC too but...
I think there will be plenty of former UFC fighters in Strikeforce soon for him to beat.
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