One-dimensional Pacman bores Mayweather Jr:
"I think Pacquiao got exposed in that fight for being one-dimensional. You can have all the offense ability in the world, but with no defense, you’re not going to last long against a good counter puncher such as myself," Floyd Mayweather Jr. said.
"When was the last time you’ve seen my face all messed up like that?."
"At least when you watch Floyd Mayweather Jr., you know you’ll be seeing non-stop action for 30 minutes straight," said Mayweather.
... "The only reason why he's popular is because he's an ethnic minority and from the Philippines, so it's something special. If he was from Africa he would be just another boxer."
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Did Floyd forget he is a minority too? Or maybe he just doesn’t know?
"For some reason Dana White doesn't like me, and I don't care enough to find out why. So he can go pound sand up his ass as far as I'm concerned."
Don Frye
by keyboardwarrior on Mar 16, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
well amongst boxers I’d say PAC is a minority and Floyd is not, there are a ton of black boxers. I can’t remember the last top level Asian boxer. trying to think of a parallel in mma, but mma seems to be pretty diverse, whereas boxing primarily is black and Latino with a few others sprinkled in.
by kanodogg on Mar 16, 2010 9:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
who???? no one knows who that is brah how can you compare him to pacquaio
by kanodogg on Mar 16, 2010 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe amongst hardcores… but the casual fanbase is where stars are made
by kanodogg on Mar 16, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
top level in terms of drawing power, shoulda been mote specific. but seriously poll 10 people off the street an I guarantee you no one knows who kostya tszyu is.
by kanodogg on Mar 16, 2010 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just asked 10 people at lunch.
Tszyu 0 -10
Pacquiao 0-10
Mayweather 0-10 Someone did say moving company
GSP 0-10
Fedor 0-10
Tiger Woods 10-10
Brock Lesnar 2-10
did you just ask people at work? if so, your poll is tainted, too narrow of a pool of people.
by kanodogg on Mar 16, 2010 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope, I was eating lunch
at a cafe. I just asked random people who walked by. I tried to keep them around my age (38).
LOL
@ moving company.
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by poundnground on Mar 16, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
moving company they were thinking of is likely mayflower trucking
by kanodogg on Mar 16, 2010 7:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anyone who watched boxing on HBO in the 2000s knows who Kostya Tzsu is. He unified the Jr Welterweight belts, and was a damn fine boxer.
Another Asian of note is Vic Darchinyan. Unless Armenians don’t count as Asians either. If you watched boxing on Showtime at all during the 2000s, you know who Darchinyan is.
Is it “hardcore” to watch boxing on the two major TV outlets you can get quality boxing on, and learn the names of the fighters that those TV channels promote? I’ll also ad that if you are a boxer and you are repeatedly promoted by either HBO or Showtime, you have officially crossed the bridge from no-name to basically famous (as far as boxers go).
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Mar 16, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, if you don't know who Tszyu even is...
You don’t know much about boxing at all and I do not consider you a fan.
everyone who knows a little about boxing knows about kostya, except for your poser ass
by SilverNBlackZach! on Mar 16, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how am I a poser? I never said I was a hardcore boxing fan, this is an mma blog.
u mad brah?
by kanodogg on Mar 16, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Relevant 5 or 6 years ago.
Until he quit on the stool against Hatton and disappeared into the Aussie ether.
by Mr. Reynolds on Mar 16, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Tszyu was definitely well known
I’m a casual boxing fan, and I know of him. Therefore it must be true.
"Except for your poser ass"
Wow… relax Captain ESPN. Not everyone’s at wiki level with all sports.
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by poundnground on Mar 16, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually Fillipinno are not Asian
They are a mixture of south pacific islanders and spanish
by SimplePsych on Mar 16, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
“The only reason why he’s popular is because he’s an ethnic minority…..”
Shorty after saying this an aide whispered something in Floyd’s ear and he responded with an anquished shout “You mean I’m not white!!!!!!?”
In the mind of Floyd Mayweather, he is neither black nor white nor Asian nor Inuit nor anything else. He’s a Floyd, an ethnic group all to himself.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Mar 16, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but I am pretty sure white people will still be the largest group in the US. Grouping all the current minorities together doesn’t really make them one group. I don’t really care, I just think that cliche is a little inaccurate.
by Dropkick434 on Mar 16, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
So if he thinks that Manny is one-dimenional and that he is so much better than him, then why not go for the easy payday then? Its crazy. “I can beat you and make more money than any other boxer ever but I just dont want to cause it would be too easy”.
People are choosing the wrong statement to gripe with. My beef is the 30 minutes of non-stop action in all PBF’s fights. He has himself confused with someone else.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
by Sam Cupitt on Mar 16, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 10 recs
Yeah, i chuckled a little at that. Pacman attacks relentlessly and Floyd dodges and throws enough punches to win.
by Dropkick434 on Mar 16, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
that's what I was about to post
I think he’s confusing himself with Shane Mosley. PBF is a great boxer. Perhaps one of the top 10 p4p greats, but until 2006(? year may be off) he was not a draw and considered boring.
People need to quit saying that he’s ducking Manny though. He gave into the most ridiculous demands ($10million for each pound overweight) and didn’t get what he wanted out of negotiations (14 day out blood testing). In my opinion, he took the more dangerous fight of the two and has a larger chance at losing to Mosley than Pacquiao had with Clottey.
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by Matthew Roth on Mar 16, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Given Floyd’s history of coming in over the limit and simply paying his way out, I don’t think the 10 mill per pound was exactly ridiculous. It’s a lot of money, but neither fighter would’ve had to pay a dime as long as they came in under the specified weight limit.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Mar 16, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
And given that blood testing is pretty weak, I don’t think that 14 day out testing is ridiculous. fact is, if you’re a fan of Manny you’ll find a reason to claim that PBF is ducking him. Same if you are a PBF fan, you’ll find reason to say Manny is ducking PBF.
At this point they are both businesses. If Manny doesn’t have that P4P best fighter tag, his money line is decreased. If PBF doesn’t have that air of dominance, then he’s just another boxer. Too much to lose.
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by Matthew Roth on Mar 16, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Floyd's history?
He came in two pounds over weight, fighting the #2 P4P Boxer in the World—who called him out after a two year lay-off. He’s lucky he was able to come in at 146, however, he paid the fine of $300k a pound, so it’s not something to make a giant fuss about. Floyd has always made weight up until that point. He’s always chased the big names.
And yes, $10 Mil a pound is extremely out of the ordinary. You tell me one other fight that demanded that sum of money per pound.
"I do no speak of the future. Your demise is already an inescapable fact of the past. " - Aizen
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But the thing is, everything Mosely does now Floys does bettter. He would have matched up with floyd better about 10 years ago..
The irony of all of this is that Mosely was pinched for PED’s and Pac has never been buy Floyd was making a big to do about drug testing there while there has been no mention of it with Mosely..
Mosley said he'd take whatever test Floyd wanted him to.
"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"
Uh…
Immediately after the cancellation of Mosley-Berto, Mosley and Mayweather — the former welterweight champ and pound-for-pound king until giving up the mantle during a brief retirement — began negotiating.
“The negotiations were very cordial and went very smoothly,” Ellerbe said.
Mosley has agreed to undergo random blood and urine testing, as has Mayweather, Ellerbe said.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4870999
It hasn’t been a story because it was agreed upon from the get-go.
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Mosley wanted no part of Floyd in '99 or '06
Mosley was at 135 when Floyd was at 130. Mosley knew Floyd was a dangerous Boxer at 130, however there was no money in a Floyd fight at the time, so he moved on up to 147 and fought Oscar De La Hoya—who was considered the #1 P4P Boxer in the world. I believe Mosley was #2 according to Ring rankings.
However, you can bet your ass that Floyd called out all the big names. Tsyzu, Lazcano, Freitas, Castillo, Mosley, De La Hoya. Those were the big names in ’99.
You could have easily put Floyd in the same category most put Paul Williams now, back in ’99. High risk; low reward.
"I do no speak of the future. Your demise is already an inescapable fact of the past. " - Aizen
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“At least when you watch Floyd Mayweather Jr., you know you’ll be seeing non-stop action for 30 minutes straight,” said Mayweather." –
wow. you mean throwing a jab/cross for a million boring rounds against Marquez, naturally 2 weight classes below you?
PBF is such a clown. you can talk however long about how great he is…9 rds to finish hatton or 2 by Pacman? a decision of DLHoya…or a stoppage in 9 (i think it was)
compare the same opponents and compare who did what. period.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Mar 16, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
An out of retirement semi-rusty PBF toyed with a very game JMM.
JMM beat (IMO) Pac… twice.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Mar 16, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would you have in a rematch at welterweight, Pac or JMM?
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Mar 16, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Pac by devastating TKO inside of 3 rounds.
by steak_knife on Mar 16, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't compare the Hatton against Mayweather to the Hatton against Pacquiao.
"I do no speak of the future. Your demise is already an inescapable fact of the past. " - Aizen
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Or the dehydrated De La Hoya
who was slightly more passed his prime by the time Manny got him.
"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"
De La Hoya was basically a 'yes, man' in that fight.
"I do no speak of the future. Your demise is already an inescapable fact of the past. " - Aizen
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. fan since 7/12/97 -- 40-0-0 (25 KOs)
Really? Who of note has De La Hoya beaten? Other than a should have been retired JCC? Ricardo Mayorga? Honestly DLH has lost to just about every upper echelon fighter he has ever faced. Although I am of the camp that DLH did beat Mayweather… and so is Mayweather Senior.
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Mar 17, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Mar 17, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather see
action for 8 minutes and then a KO/TKO.
I actually like both fighters a lot
Mayweather is right in one respect, nobody will confuse Pacman with a defensive fighter. Fighters like Pacman use their offense for defense actually. By outpunching your opponent at a high rate, with fast handspeed you can keep them on the defense the whole fight.
Clottey had plenty of good punches, uppercuts, straights, etc but not enough of them. Clottey’s style falls right into Manny’s hands. He was essentially a 12 round punching bag. Clottey lacks the footwork to ever compete at the highest level of boxing. Oh and he doesn’t have the heart to compete at the highest level of boxing too.
NEWSFLASH
Your both one dimensional. If Pacs defense looks so bad he should want this fight and prove himself. Then he has to call the race card again. So tired of this guy.
They both want the fight.
—And Floyd is completely right about the racial differences. Their have been plenty of great white, black, mexican, italian Boxers. Their hasn’t been really any exceptional Filipino boxers comparable to Pacquiao unless you want to argue that Gerry Penalosa, Gabriel Elorde or Pancho Villa were or just as exceptional…
Pacquiao is the exception. He isn’t the traditional race for a Boxer, he is uncommon. Therefore is highly respected for being the first Filipino; first Boxer to win seven divisional title, four of them lineal of the original eight weight divisions. By default, he is the minority.
All-in-all, Mayweather is correct. Don’t look at it as a racial jab. He knows his Boxing.
"I do no speak of the future. Your demise is already an inescapable fact of the past. " - Aizen
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. fan since 7/12/97 -- 40-0-0 (25 KOs)
Basically it adds to his intrigue
the problem is it comes off like Floyd is saying that’s all he has going for him.
"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"
Because Floyd is the most hated man in Boxing.
"I do no speak of the future. Your demise is already an inescapable fact of the past. " - Aizen
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. fan since 7/12/97 -- 40-0-0 (25 KOs)
boxing sucks
can we stop getting boxing articles on an mma blog only 5% of us care anyway
I'm not a big boxing fan myself...
but you really don’t have to read it or comment on it if you don’t like it. Just sayin’…
Keep sleepin' on me...
I like that you feel confident enough to speak for everyone that posts here in percentages.
"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"
I could be wrong but I think he is saying 5% because HBO said that there is only a 5% crossover audience
"For some reason Dana White doesn't like me, and I don't care enough to find out why. So he can go pound sand up his ass as far as I'm concerned."
Don Frye
by keyboardwarrior on Mar 16, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just going to go ahead and assume you're wrong
it’s easier that way.
"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"
Don't like it? Don't read it.
If I don’t like a topic, I ignore that post. If the comments are just virtual yelling matches, I ignore them. It’s the smart thing to do.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 16, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i just think boxing and mma are different sports
this story belongs at a boxing blog not an mma one
Boxing is a part of mixed martial arts.
Do you feel the same way when we discuss K-1 or ADCC? Those are different sports, too, despite their relevance to MMA.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 16, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that...
1200 punches kinda means something.
"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."
by At Least On Paper on Mar 16, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions
yep
It means that a lot of them were blocked.
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by Matthew Roth on Mar 16, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It means something against a Boxer who was told not to fight back.
—I call that a fix.
"I do no speak of the future. Your demise is already an inescapable fact of the past. " - Aizen
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. fan since 7/12/97 -- 40-0-0 (25 KOs)
Blood for the Blood God!!!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 16, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
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